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2022-08-10 2:37:40 AM  
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SAVAGE


/Dumbass
 
2022-08-10 2:42:58 AM  
Did he try saying "Do you know who I am?", because that always works for washed up nobodies.
 
2022-08-10 5:48:13 AM  
Is he a drug addict now?
 
2022-08-10 6:18:56 AM  
I read the entire story in Daniel Stern's voice.
 
2022-08-10 7:59:02 AM  
It's wild how from The Wonder Years, both Fred Savage and Marilyn Manson turned out to be awful people.
 
2022-08-10 8:01:56 AM  
In a few years, they're going to find him in a train station bathroom with a needle hanging out of his arm.
 
2022-08-10 8:03:39 AM  
Justice Beer-Bro nods in sympathy.
 
2022-08-10 8:04:27 AM  
This secret information must have been uncovered by a.....

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2022-08-10 8:07:24 AM  
Well, now we know why he wasn't allowed to be in a room alone with Michelle Trachtenberg.
 
2022-08-10 8:09:19 AM  
Can men in Hollywood stop making it so hard for normal men? Why are they all asshole creeps? Just another example of a man with influence over others taking advantage of it and being a farking creep. You're not helping..
 
2022-08-10 8:10:20 AM  
One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

Sociopath for sure, but a team of psychiatrists would be busy for a while with him.
 
2022-08-10 8:16:52 AM  

Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.


You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.
 
2022-08-10 8:24:08 AM  
Heh. The Preston and Steve Show on 93.3 WMMR Philadelphia just teased that Danica McKellar will be on the show live sometime soon this morning. I assume something that was arranged before this story.
 
2022-08-10 8:29:40 AM  

hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.


My mother always reminded us: "Be kind to the people below you on your way up.  You may run into them again on your way down."
 
2022-08-10 8:32:48 AM  
Three different references to his "eyes going dead" is really odd.  Smells of HR/PR telling people what to say to the press.
 
2022-08-10 8:32:51 AM  

styckx: Can men in Hollywood stop making it so hard for normal men? Why are they all asshole creeps? Just another example of a man with influence over others taking advantage of it and being a farking creep. You're not helping..


Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

Sociopath for sure, but a team of psychiatrists would be busy for a while with him.


The armchair psychologist in me says this is a problem that would tend to manifest more often among actors, whose very job is to trick you into thinking they embody a personality that is not their own.
 
2022-08-10 8:37:55 AM  

hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.


*throws the coffee you just got me in your face*

YOU CALL THIS HOT? DOES THAT SEEM HOT YOU FARKING IDIOT?!?!
 
2022-08-10 8:38:48 AM  
I'd take a shot at her

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2022-08-10 8:40:03 AM  
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2022-08-10 8:48:26 AM  

hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.


Unfortunately Hollywood seems to be set up to encourage that behavior. "Top of the bill" people get accolades and fame, and everyone else is ignored.
 
2022-08-10 8:49:56 AM  

Persnickety: hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.

My mother always reminded us: "Be kind to the people below you on your way up.  You may run into them again on your way down."


Or you could be kind to them because it's the right thing to do, regardless of how it will affect you.
 
2022-08-10 8:51:01 AM  

pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

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If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.
 
2022-08-10 8:58:31 AM  
Grandpa Columbo is disappointed.
 
2022-08-10 9:15:53 AM  

stuhayes2010: Three different references to his "eyes going dead" is really odd.  Smells of HR/PR telling people what to say to the press.


Or, and stay with me here, Fred gets a certain look on his face when he's angry.  Kind of like just about everyone.  It's almost like a language of the body or something.
 
2022-08-10 9:16:45 AM  

Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

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[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.


One of my favorite punishments ever on that show. God I felt bad for him.
 
2022-08-10 9:17:02 AM  
I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.
 
2022-08-10 9:18:00 AM  

Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

Sociopath for sure, but a team of psychiatrists would be busy for a while with him.


No, this is pretty common.  Probably 100% of Congress and 33% of managers in any organization.
 
2022-08-10 9:23:02 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Persnickety: hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.

My mother always reminded us: "Be kind to the people below you on your way up.  You may run into them again on your way down."

Or you could be kind to them because it's the right thing to do, regardless of how it will affect you.


It's basically a restatement of Golden Rule if you think about it.  It's easy enough to treat the people we love with kindness but we'll never get to the point of loving everyone - the human mind just isn't capable of this IMHO - so the best we can do is treat people how we'd want to be treated if our roles were reversed.
 
2022-08-10 9:26:15 AM  
Teenage me would have gladly comforted her back then. Middle age me would gladly comfort her now through any PTSD.
 
2022-08-10 9:31:53 AM  

Persnickety: hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.

My mother always reminded us: "Be kind to the people below you on your way up.  You may run into them again on your way down."


People are so driven by recency bias.  I ascended from the bottom to the top of a government agency in nine years (some fluke luck).  I was encouraged by work friends who knew me at entry level to settle some scores.   was tempted - there were some real assholes, but I declined because being an asshole is pretty stressful for me to do and I knew I'd be coming back down at some point (nature of the beast in government and life).  Humans have such a tendency to think the present condition will continue.  It never does.
 
2022-08-10 9:32:19 AM  

JJRRutgers: I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.


Not to mention his guest spot on Boy Meets World.
 
2022-08-10 9:36:41 AM  
Voice in my head reading that article

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2022-08-10 9:49:33 AM  
The first step in his eventual rehabilitation is to start a production company with Dan Schneider, get more behind the scenes and build that reputation back up.
 
2022-08-10 9:51:43 AM  

JJRRutgers: I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.


Hopefully it ends the same way the episode did. According to the article he's been sexually abusing women he feels are beneath him since he was 16 farking years old. He's nearly 50. This isn't fixable.
 
2022-08-10 10:08:29 AM  

a perfectly serviceable can of spooge: JJRRutgers: I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.

Hopefully it ends the same way the episode did. According to the article he's been sexually abusing women he feels are beneath him since he was 16 farking years old. He's nearly 50. This isn't fixable.


It's not impossible, just very, very improbable.
 
2022-08-10 10:32:10 AM  

Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.


I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.
 
2022-08-10 10:39:02 AM  

WoodyHayes: Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.

I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.


But, she was in on it.
 
2022-08-10 10:42:11 AM  

Bargoyle: WoodyHayes: Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.

I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.

But, she was in on it.


Alright, my apologies then. I didn't remember that.
 
2022-08-10 10:43:03 AM  

WoodyHayes: Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.

I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.


She was in on it.  After he left, she asked the crew if it was okay to laugh now.
 
2022-08-10 10:46:01 AM  

WoodyHayes: Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.

I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.


Yeah, it is a bit squirm inducing when you first watch it. But as soon as he leaves at the 4:40 mark, we see how she really felt about being part of this gag. "Can I laugh now?" should be the indicator that she knew what she was getting into and was more than willing to go along.

But for me, no punishgment ever topped having Sal stand in front of an entire stadium of baseball fans who were there to see a game, but instead of singing the national anthem, he had to improvise a song on the spot based on the title "Butterfly Crime Scene".
 
2022-08-10 11:04:56 AM  

a perfectly serviceable can of spooge: JJRRutgers: I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.

Hopefully it ends the same way the episode did. According to the article he's been sexually abusing women he feels are beneath him since he was 16 farking years old. He's nearly 50. This isn't fixable.


Weed whacker or pruning shears.
 
2022-08-10 11:14:26 AM  

Persnickety: hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: One says Savage never engaged in such behavior in front of actors or executives. "They all see his absolute perfect, best face," she says, but he sometimes showed a different side to "below-the-line employees who don't have power.

You judge a man by how he treats those around him and who can offer him the least. If a 'good man' treats valet parking or a waitress like sh*t, he isn't a good man in the least, he's just hiding it from those folks who thinks are 'important' which pretty much seals how he looks at the world. Important people are different, and everyone else is disposable. It's a really sh*tty way to go through life, and sadly, it's something that a lot of parents only encourage when they're grooming 'talented' kids.

My mother always reminded us: "Be kind to the people below you on your way up.  You may run into them again on your way down."


My mother always told us: "If it's brown flush it down, but if it's just yellow you can let it mellow."
 
2022-08-10 11:19:12 AM  

Jake Havechek: WoodyHayes: Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.

I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.

She was in on it.  After he left, she asked the crew if it was okay to laugh now.


I will gladly comfort her now if she has any lingering trauma from that segment.
 
2022-08-10 11:19:15 AM  

Unsung_Hero: a perfectly serviceable can of spooge: JJRRutgers: I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.

Hopefully it ends the same way the episode did. According to the article he's been sexually abusing women he feels are beneath him since he was 16 farking years old. He's nearly 50. This isn't fixable.

It's not impossible, just very, very improbable.


There is one way...
 
2022-08-10 11:19:29 AM  

stuhayes2010: Three different references to his "eyes going dead" is really odd.  Smells of HR/PR telling people what to say to the press.


Ever been around to see the mask slip off a psychopath before they can catch and compose themselves? Ever catch a brief, unsolicited glimpse of the monster crawling around under someone's skin you thought was a perfectly normal human being? Incredibly disturbing. Not something you're likely to forget.
 
2022-08-10 11:21:59 AM  

a perfectly serviceable can of spooge: stuhayes2010: Three different references to his "eyes going dead" is really odd.  Smells of HR/PR telling people what to say to the press.

Ever been around to see the mask slip off a psychopath before they can catch and compose themselves? Ever catch a brief, unsolicited glimpse of the monster crawling around under someone's skin you thought was a perfectly normal human being? Incredibly disturbing. Not something you're likely to forget.


I told you never to enter my office before I had my coffee. You brought this upon yourself.
 
2022-08-10 11:22:45 AM  

JJRRutgers: Unsung_Hero: a perfectly serviceable can of spooge: JJRRutgers: I guess his episode of Law & Order SVU was a true story.

Hopefully it ends the same way the episode did. According to the article he's been sexually abusing women he feels are beneath him since he was 16 farking years old. He's nearly 50. This isn't fixable.

It's not impossible, just very, very improbable.

There is one way...


That's how they took care of his character in the Law and Order episode. He raped a bunch of women and got himself found not guilty by acting as his own attorney attorney, presenting in court the exact facade the article describes actual Fred Savage using.

One of his victims then drives to his office and shoots him in the head.
 
2022-08-10 11:37:52 AM  
Did he try to show her his Little Monster?
 
2022-08-10 11:42:05 AM  

WoodyHayes: Rattrap007: pc_gator: I'd take a shot at her

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 633x900]

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xP3HX7BEtIQ]
If you talk to her, be sure to be oiled up and bronzed.

I loved The Wonder Years growing up.

Madeline > Winnie

I like Impractical Jokers.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with that punishment. Sure, it was mortifying for Murr being like that in front of his boyhood crush but it also required that somebody else be placed in a really uncomfortable and awkward situation who wasn't in on it. I don't know, maybe I'm just nitpicking or getting a smidgen of prudeness randomly added to my traits that'll disappear with a quickness but that segment made me a bit uneasy.


Madeline....... holy crap was she hot.

One of my favorite lines from the entire show was when Kevin hands her a pencil and narrator Kevin says, "Fact, lead is a conductor."
 
2022-08-10 11:59:29 AM  
Wow! What a turd he is.

I'd gladly punch him for just being in the same room with Winnie Cooper and being such an asshole in general.
 
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