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2022-08-09 8:21:03 PM  
I just went on a road trip and and listened to that album a few times in a row because I was tired of random playlists and I could remember the album name. It holds up, unlike that article.

The early 90's really did have some great albums. It may have been the last great album push before mp3s and the internet refocused everything primarily on singles.
 
2022-08-09 8:53:51 PM  
Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.
 
2022-08-09 9:02:26 PM  
Raining in Baltimore is the only reason I was able to get through 11th grade.
 
2022-08-09 9:02:27 PM  
"Mr. Jones" is one of the greatest songs from the 90s.
 
2022-08-09 9:03:37 PM  
Jesus farking Christ it's not the end of the world

R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
Youtube Z0GFRcFm-aY
 
2022-08-09 9:09:47 PM  
1993 was a monster year for albums
 
2022-08-09 9:18:59 PM  
Its like Nirvana came along and every label was competing to sign an artist even more depressed and forlorn than all of the other guys out there.

/mind you its not a terrible album
//but it got enough radio play to wear out its welcome
 
2022-08-09 9:20:17 PM  

robertus: 1993 was a monster year for albums


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Speaking of perfect albums from 1993.
 
2022-08-09 9:21:18 PM  
Frontman Adam Duritz explained the song's meaning as follows: "I can remember being eight years old and having infinite possibilities. But life ends up being so much less than we thought it would be when we were kids, with relationships that are so empty and stupid and brutal. If you don't find a way to break the chain and change in some way, then you wind up, as the rhyme goes: a murder of one, for sorrow."


A Murder Of One
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/crank it
 
2022-08-09 9:23:25 PM  

robertus: 1993 was a monster year for albums


Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) (Official Music Video)
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2022-08-09 9:23:56 PM  

mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.


That's because the fat guy that was the real singer was fired when he was caught doing the singing at one of their concerts. Ever since then they have had Adam do his best but it's not quite right.

Blues Traveler - Run-Around (Official Music Video)
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2022-08-09 9:28:26 PM  

mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.


That must be a new thing. Saw them a couple times on the Recovering the Satellites tour (one where Fiona apple opened!) And it was farking fantastic. They were a solid live band then.
 
2022-08-09 9:31:28 PM  
Yeah, this album is still amazing today, and takes me right back to high school and all that turmoil.
 
2022-08-09 9:35:17 PM  

question_dj: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

That must be a new thing. Saw them a couple times on the Recovering the Satellites tour (one where Fiona apple opened!) And it was farking fantastic. They were a solid live band then.


I saw them at the Jones Beach theater in NYC around 2007-ish and it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
 
2022-08-09 9:37:17 PM  
I agree that it's pretty much a perfect album. So very good.

But I would have used a lot less words than the author apparently felt the need to use.
 
2022-08-09 9:37:36 PM  

Moose out front: question_dj: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

That must be a new thing. Saw them a couple times on the Recovering the Satellites tour (one where Fiona apple opened!) And it was farking fantastic. They were a solid live band then.

I saw them at the Jones Beach theater in NYC around 2007-ish and it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.


Absolutely a monster live band. When I saw them at some place in Dallas that's now gone, it was when he'd injured his leg. Fiona Ape opened . Absolutely one of my most vivid early concert memories.
 
2022-08-09 9:56:48 PM  

G-Ride: I agree that it's pretty much a perfect album. So very good.

But I would have used a lot less words than the author apparently felt the need to use.


I was just kind of touched by how much she loves it. Somebody just saying how much they love some little thing.
Enjoyed TFA.
 
2022-08-09 10:00:11 PM  
August and Everything After was a great album that i listened to a ton and Adam was whiny on it and all the others. I liked Recovering the Satellites, Desert Life, and Hard Candy too - each one less than the one before. My favorite though was Live Across a Wire, which featured songs from August and Satellites live on MTV and VH1. Those versions of Mr. Jones, Anna Begins, and Recovering the Satellites were awesome.Sure they were kind of uncool and wussy and Mr Jones was horribly overplayed in its time, but I loved ti and still put it on occasionally. More recent live albums show that dude can't farkin sing anymore. The more recent songs aren't much good either.About this article though - descriptions of the 90s and otherwise:
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2022-08-09 10:01:57 PM  
Just went looking at who produced the subsequent albums, and hard candy was produced by Steve Lilly white at his peak, when he was producing the classic DMB albums. And that's where I stopped liking Counting Crows. Wild.
 
2022-08-09 10:10:09 PM  

Trainspotr: robertus: 1993 was a monster year for albums

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Speaking of perfect albums from 1993.


Love me some Afghan Wigs
 
2022-08-09 10:11:17 PM  
I thought Joshua Tree was THE perfect album, but August showed up on my Columbia House new releases and, weeks later, U2 fell out of rotation.
 
2022-08-09 10:12:25 PM  
If y'all have ever heard it, Einstein on the Beach is on DGC Rarities Vol 1 along with some other songs by now huge bands, that might be some of their best work.
 
2022-08-09 10:15:46 PM  

mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.


He does this thing live that drives me nuts, always comes in late and misses key vocal notes in the delivery.  To me it always sounds like someone took Valium and then decided to do karaoke.
 
2022-08-09 10:18:25 PM  

Trainspotr: robertus: 1993 was a monster year for albums

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Speaking of perfect albums from 1993.


I'm from Cincy, but I never got the Afghan Whigs. I did dig this shiat town Pennsylvania band:

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Yeah, it's a 1994 album, let it slide :)
 
2022-08-09 10:27:39 PM  
"August" was an album that spoke to me in the most honest way that few other albums did.  Maybe Live's "Throwing Copper" is the lone exception to that.

Being trapped in your hometown with no way out, seeing your local peers and yourself being exploited, seeing that early mid-life dream slipping away as others got their college degrees, first apartments, first jobs, engaged, etc and after working a back-breaking job for 10 hours a day you barely had enough left to buy a six pack of cheap beer.  The incredible loneliness, the desperation, the depression.
I remember sitting in a car near the town line and thinking "this is where I would need to park when I decided to kill myself, so I could walk to the next town over and thusly wouldn't die in the same town I was born in."

Parts of it still give me that sort of anxiety of being left behind and alone.  I can still listen to it and feel where that manifested and resulted in my life now that I'm firmly middle-aged.

For a young man with little hope and little prospects of anything better it is a perfect album.  It's not a solution, it's at least camaraderie that other have been here, some may still be here, and some may never leave.  But it is at least a known place and there are at least others struggling with it, the loneliness, the addiction, the desperation.

So yeah, a perfect album seems like a weighty title but it earned it.  On nights sitting on a porch drinking tallboys and smoking cigarettes and deciding if this would be the night we try and knock over the 7-11 and get out of here.....or just listen to it over again until we're too tired to make bad decisions.....it earned it.
 
2022-08-09 10:32:46 PM  

Skarekrough: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

He does this thing live that drives me nuts, always comes in late and misses key vocal notes in the delivery.  To me it always sounds like someone took Valium and then decided to do karaoke.


That's just the problem with predominantly falsetto vocalists. It's not a thing they can do at a live show night after night. Sounds like he adapted his style too late.

Once I saw passion pit, which is all mega high falsetto vocals. Dude didn't make it through the first song before he started having to scream. It was bad. Their subsequent album has far less falsetto.
 
2022-08-09 10:39:08 PM  

Skarekrough: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

He does this thing live that drives me nuts, always comes in late and misses key vocal notes in the delivery.  To me it always sounds like someone took Valium and then decided to do karaoke.


It's a stylistic choice called "Fark you, I pulled Christina Applegate, Jennifer Aniston, and Courteney Cox in the 90s. I'll sing it however I want."
 
2022-08-09 10:43:05 PM  
Counting Crows is one of the few 90s Alt bands that I instantly change the station if I hear them. The dude's whiny voice grates on me like nothing else.
 
2022-08-09 11:03:05 PM  
August and Everything is the perfect 90's album.
 
2022-08-09 11:10:42 PM  
Round Here and Anna Begins are two of the best songs that few people have ever heard of. Everyone know Mr Jones, but those two songs are the best on the album by far. Every song on the album is good though. I guess they didn't have any filler.
 
2022-08-09 11:38:41 PM  

madgonad: Round Here and Anna Begins are two of the best songs that few people have ever heard of. Everyone know Mr Jones, but those two songs are the best on the album by far. Every song on the album is good though. I guess they didn't have any filler.


Round Here was the second single off that record. It was a pretty decent hit for them.
 
2022-08-09 11:51:14 PM  

SuperChuck: Counting Crows is one of the few 90s Alt bands that I instantly change the station if I hear them. The dude's whiny voice grates on me like nothing else.


I you sure you have teh right band? That description sounded CLUM-SEE CLUMMMSEE.

Of course, I'M JUST A KID AND MY LIFE IS A NIIIIIIGHT MAAAARE
 
2022-08-09 11:53:02 PM  
August and Everything After is one of my favorite albums of all time.
 
2022-08-09 11:56:48 PM  
Was in here just to say, BushxSixteen Stone is a forgotten album that still gives me some shivers, although as an adult it's best listened to really loud but in secret because the ladies catch you they go LOLLLLLLLLLLno.
 
2022-08-10 12:19:56 AM  

SuperChuck: Counting Crows is one of the few 90s Alt bands that I instantly change the station if I hear them. The dude's whiny voice grates on me like nothing else.


I have never understood the appeal of this band, especially since so much better music came out that year.
 
2022-08-10 12:38:32 AM  

question_dj: Moose out front: question_dj: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

That must be a new thing. Saw them a couple times on the Recovering the Satellites tour (one where Fiona apple opened!) And it was farking fantastic. They were a solid live band then.

I saw them at the Jones Beach theater in NYC around 2007-ish and it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.

Absolutely a monster live band. When I saw them at some place in Dallas that's now gone, it was when he'd injured his leg. Fiona Ape opened . Absolutely one of my most vivid early concert memories.


I love that they change up the songs a bit. Been into them since this album, been able to see them about 3 times. Last time about 4 years ago at Mystic Lake at the outside stage in MN with a friend from middle school that had moved to Wisconsin. Still put on a fantastic show.
 
2022-08-10 12:41:19 AM  
I am the rain King... YEAH!
 
2022-08-10 1:21:21 AM  

pacified: I am the rain King... YEAH!


nope it yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Rain King
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2022-08-10 1:23:45 AM  
Wow, I never realized how annoying would be to read a thinkpiece about my heyday written by someone somewhat younger than me.

To be honest, I never really got into that album. My friends liked it a lot and I spent a lot of time with them and others on the Counting Crows AOL message board back in the day. Sitting at the computer in the basement of my parents' house.

I listened to August and Everything After recently, for the first time in probably 20 years, hoping to hear something great I had not previously appreciated back then, but no luck. It starts out strong but kinda peters out by the end. That being said, the song "Long December" from the subsequent album is really good.

I saw them in concert on a split bill with the Wallflowers. I still like the Wallflowers. Their first three albums were pretty damn good and the songs hold up better than most of what was popular on the radio at that time.
 
2022-08-10 2:04:46 AM  

Dibikad: question_dj: Moose out front: question_dj: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

That must be a new thing. Saw them a couple times on the Recovering the Satellites tour (one where Fiona apple opened!) And it was farking fantastic. They were a solid live band then.

I saw them at the Jones Beach theater in NYC around 2007-ish and it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.

Absolutely a monster live band. When I saw them at some place in Dallas that's now gone, it was when he'd injured his leg. Fiona Ape opened . Absolutely one of my most vivid early concert memories.

I love that they change up the songs a bit. Been into them since this album, been able to see them about 3 times. Last time about 4 years ago at Mystic Lake at the outside stage in MN with a friend from middle school that had moved to Wisconsin. Still put on a fantastic show.


Yeah, I'd never seen them live before the Jones Beach show but they were just soooooo enthusiastic. It felt like they were there for the fun of it, not because they were being paid to sing their songs. It felt like they'd have done the concert even if no one was there. And the lead singer kind of told some stories in between songs... where they were, where they'd come from, where they were going, what they'd learned. It was just a really cool and fun experience. Awesome concert. IIRC, the goo goo dolls opened for them and even though they did a great job, they were totally outshined by Counting Crows main act. I'd definitely see them again.
 
2022-08-10 3:33:56 AM  
That album is one of the few that I belive every song is great... I loved it
 
2022-08-10 6:33:29 AM  

fearmongert: That album is one of the few that I belive every song is great... I loved it


agreed, Flaming Lips Soft Bulletin is another one.
 
2022-08-10 6:55:25 AM  

Noah_Tall: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

That's because the fat guy that was the real singer was fired when he was caught doing the singing at one of their concerts. Ever since then they have had Adam do his best but it's not quite right.

[YouTube video: Blues Traveler - Run-Around (Official Music Video)]


I saw him open for the Stones at Camp Randall in 199... something.

This was before the surgery so he was driven to the stage on a golf cart.

Then the old as fark Stones spent their show doing cartwheels and shiat.
 
2022-08-10 6:59:05 AM  
Counting Crows is a very good, if uneven, band.

Adam is what he is. He had great ideas. He seems to be out of them.

Counting Crows fans make enjoying the band almost impossible.
 
2022-08-10 7:28:28 AM  
The Hootie album was in the same rotation with CC and Live, but for some reason people rag on Hootie more. Is it just the stupid name?
 
2022-08-10 8:47:52 AM  

stoli n coke: madgonad: Round Here and Anna Begins are two of the best songs that few people have ever heard of. Everyone know Mr Jones, but those two songs are the best on the album by far. Every song on the album is good though. I guess they didn't have any filler.

Round Here was the second single off that record. It was a pretty decent hit for them.


True, but here's another shout for Anna Begins, IMHO the best track on the album and no one even knows it.  I  also don't know why Sullivan Street wasn't a hit.  It's an instantly approachable song.
 
2022-08-10 4:02:39 PM  

Dibikad: question_dj: Moose out front: question_dj: mcsiegs: Great album.  Adam Duritz is annoying live though.  I understand you don't want to sound exactly like the recording, but he goes out of his way to make every song unrecognizable.

That must be a new thing. Saw them a couple times on the Recovering the Satellites tour (one where Fiona apple opened!) And it was farking fantastic. They were a solid live band then.

I saw them at the Jones Beach theater in NYC around 2007-ish and it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.

Absolutely a monster live band. When I saw them at some place in Dallas that's now gone, it was when he'd injured his leg. Fiona Ape opened . Absolutely one of my most vivid early concert memories.

I love that they change up the songs a bit. Been into them since this album, been able to see them about 3 times. Last time about 4 years ago at Mystic Lake at the outside stage in MN with a friend from middle school that had moved to Wisconsin. Still put on a fantastic show.


I have not seen them since in 1997. They completely lost me with This Desert Life.
 
2022-08-10 5:10:44 PM  
I love Counting Crows all the way up to Hard Candy. The albums after that one just didn't seem to speak to me. Anyway.

Not so cool story - I was trying to learn Springsteen's Rosalita and wouldn't you know it, the chords are identical to Einstein on the Beach. Except for the chorus. But basically the same song.
 
2022-08-10 6:09:55 PM  

knbwhite: Is it just the stupid name?


Yes.

It all works out though, some bands will be remembered for their stupid names and others will be forever associated with the word "placenta."
 
2022-08-10 7:49:24 PM  

FDR Jones: knbwhite: Is it just the stupid name?

Yes.

It all works out though, some bands will be remembered for their stupid names and others will be forever associated with the word "placenta."


And in the middle of the Venn diagram, "Meat Beat Manifesto" right guys? ...Right? ...Guys...? Am I the only one?
 
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