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(Deadline)   Castro's daughter: have you even seen DeFranco? Dude is a doppleganger of my father   (deadline.com) divider line
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2022-08-09 6:22:26 AM  
I'm not seeing it.

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2022-08-09 6:22:32 AM  
Sure, he looks like your father.. but why is this asshole still getting jobs in Hollywood?
 
2022-08-09 6:28:22 AM  

NoahFenze: Sure, he looks like your father.. but why is this asshole still getting jobs in Hollywood?


Stonecutters, probably. They forced Steve Guttenberg upon us, too.
 
2022-08-09 6:46:44 AM  

NoahFenze: Sure, he looks like your father.. but why is this asshole still getting jobs in Hollywood?


He's too high to fail.
 
2022-08-09 6:55:22 AM  
Nah, the absolute dead ringerfor El Presidente is Justin Trudeau.
 
2022-08-09 7:04:05 AM  

Thoreny: NoahFenze: Sure, he looks like your father.. but why is this asshole still getting jobs in Hollywood?

Stonecutters, probably. They forced Steve Guttenberg upon us, too.


Idk I see electric cars all over the farkin place now
 
2022-08-09 7:06:46 AM  
The people who care about that sort of thing can't be deterred by the inconvenient truth that the actual people they're offended for don't actually give a crap most of the time.

They're offended enough for everyone.

John Lequizamo played a French-little person (Toulouse-Lautrec) on his knees.

Who, in this case, casts the first stone?
 
2022-08-09 7:08:49 AM  
Instead of picking a Cuban actor, they picked a non-Cuban sexual harasser?

Honestly, I would say that most Cubans in American don't care about who plays Castro. But it is pretty shiatty.
 
2022-08-09 7:15:23 AM  

KWess: The people who care about that sort of thing can't be deterred by the inconvenient truth that the actual people they're offended for don't actually give a crap most of the time.

They're offended enough for everyone.

John Lequizamo played a French-little person (Toulouse-Lautrec) on his knees.

Who, in this case, casts the first stone?


He also played a Bensonhurst Italian in Summer of Sam.
 
2022-08-09 7:52:38 AM  
Yeah, the Colombian dude is pissy that no Cuban American would touch the role so casting went the a Portuguese American.

The nerve of those Cuban Americans for not auditioning!  Just because everyone in their family would spit on them is no reason to avoid a role!
 
2022-08-09 8:02:46 AM  

Kriggerel: Nah, the absolute dead ringerfor El Presidente is Justin Trudeau.


Nope. The dead ringer is.... you guessed it.....

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2022-08-09 8:10:27 AM  

Ragin' Asian: I'm not seeing it.

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I dunno put a green hat and chest-length beard on her and she might pass muster.

/wonder which actor most resembles who they portrayed
 
2022-08-09 8:14:37 AM  

Ragin' Asian: I'm not seeing it.

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Fake Gibson fake Castro.
It works
 
2022-08-09 8:15:34 AM  

zeroman987: Instead of picking a Cuban actor, they picked a non-Cuban sexual harasser?

Honestly, I would say that most Cubans in American don't care about who plays Castro. But it is pretty shiatty.


They could have picked Woody Allen.
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2022-08-09 8:16:29 AM  

Kriggerel: Nah, the absolute dead ringerfor El Presidente is Justin Trudeau.


Trudeau prefers black roles.
 
2022-08-09 8:17:29 AM  
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Looking for Italians in this pic, and I can't find any.
 
2022-08-09 8:27:57 AM  

robertus: Ragin' Asian: I'm not seeing it.

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I dunno put a green hat and chest-length beard on her and she might pass muster.

/wonder which actor most resembles who they portrayed


My vote's for Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison.
 
2022-08-09 8:31:32 AM  
I just hope he plays him the same way he did tommy Wiseau
 
2022-08-09 8:53:36 AM  
Trying to match the skin color or ethnic background of an actor to a role is a weird kind of racism. It's theatre. People pretend to be things they aren't. There's an entire industry of make-up and costuming and prosthetics. It was silly when folks were up in arms about Idris Elba playing Heimdall, it's silly now.
 
2022-08-09 8:55:47 AM  
Why is this murderous asshole even getting movie?
 
2022-08-09 8:57:35 AM  

EvilElecBlanket: Why is this murderous asshole even getting a movie?

 
2022-08-09 9:10:49 AM  

EvilElecBlanket: Why is this murderous asshole even getting movie?


I heard James Franco was creepy with women, but didn't know he murdered anyone?
 
2022-08-09 9:20:02 AM  

nigeman: I just hope he plays him the same way he did tommy Wiseau


"Oh HAI, Che!"
 
2022-08-09 9:22:10 AM  

Eightballjacket: EvilElecBlanket: Why is this murderous asshole even getting movie?

I heard James Franco was creepy with women, but didn't know he murdered anyone?


I heard he was responsible for cancelling "Batgirl". That's kind of a murder.
 
2022-08-09 9:37:04 AM  

Ragin' Asian: robertus: Ragin' Asian: I'm not seeing it.

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I dunno put a green hat and chest-length beard on her and she might pass muster.

/wonder which actor most resembles who they portrayed

My vote's for Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison.


I'll cast my vote for Gwylim Lee as Brian May.
 
2022-08-09 9:46:23 AM  
I still think Samuel L Jackson was robbed of what could have been a career-definining opportunity...


///ending is a definition, right?
 
2022-08-09 9:51:34 AM  
The real Castro's hair helmet was nowhere near as glorious, though.
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2022-08-09 10:03:31 AM  

NoahFenze: Sure, he looks like your father.. but why is this asshole still getting jobs in Hollywood?


Hollywood/studios only cares about 1 thing, anything else they say is often virtue signaling crafted to best support that 1 value.

The do no care about his personality, as long as people are not boycotting movies he is in, and other stars/celebs are  raining down bad press.

The one thing is money BTW
 
2022-08-09 10:32:39 AM  
Actor of ethnicity A shouldn't play character of ethnicity B. Got it.

So Gary Oldman should only play English men.  Meryl Streep only American women. And Al Pacino only Italian-American men. And Denzel Washington can't be Macbeth because he's jussssst a little bit outside of being Scottish.  And Hugh Laurie perpetrated the cultural assimilation of the century by playing House and not telling his American audience that he was English.....Oh the humanity!!

And then there's Hamilton.
 
2022-08-09 10:46:10 AM  

cnocnanrionnag: Actor of ethnicity A shouldn't play character of ethnicity B. Got it.

So Gary Oldman should only play English men.  Meryl Streep only American women. And Al Pacino only Italian-American men. And Denzel Washington can't be Macbeth because he's jussssst a little bit outside of being Scottish.  And Hugh Laurie perpetrated the cultural assimilation of the century by playing House and not telling his American audience that he was English.....Oh the humanity!!

And then there's Hamilton.


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2022-08-09 10:57:41 AM  
They cast someone whose father is from the Iberian peninsula to play someone whose father is from from the Iberian peninsula. Sounds pretty racist to me. They should have gone with a random Latino instead.

There are plenty of reasons to not like Franco that aren't wrapped in ignorant fervor.
 
2022-08-09 11:00:39 AM  
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2022-08-09 11:15:39 AM  

starsrift: Trying to match the skin color or ethnic background of an actor to a role is a weird kind of racism. It's theatre. People pretend to be things they aren't. There's an entire industry of make-up and costuming and prosthetics. It was silly when folks were up in arms about Idris Elba playing Heimdall, it's silly now.


I think it matters a bit when it's a fictional character of that character is supposed to be from a certain area. Heimdall is fine. He's from Asgard and with the Multiverse, they can do what they want. Yul Brynner as the king of Siam? People from Thailand don't look like that. Let's not pretend that white is the default race everywhere and let's not perpetuate that idea through media.

It's worse when it's a historical figure. For extreme examples, I don't think they should have Chris Evans play a biopic of MLK. It's kinda messed up. John Wayne should not have Genghis Khan. We could have found someone more fitting than Jodie Tuner-Smith for Anne Boleyn.

Sadly, people don't pay attention in history class and changing things like this give the wrong impression of what really happened and what people from those regions really look like.
 
2022-08-09 11:30:43 AM  

starsrift: Trying to match the skin color or ethnic background of an actor to a role is a weird kind of racism.


To clarify, I'm not disagreeing that it's a weird kind of racism. Telling someone you can't play a part because of your skin color certainly feels racist. I just don't know what to do about it. Representation is important as it makes actual difference in people's lives to see people who look like themselves on the big screen, especially as main characters. Maybe I'm saying the world is racist and we work with what we have? Maybe what I really need to say is I should take a shower and go to work because this isn't going to solved on Fark.
 
2022-08-09 11:34:19 AM  
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I tell him, you are Tom Brokaw.
 
2022-08-09 11:42:45 AM  

Jumpthruhoops: starsrift: Trying to match the skin color or ethnic background of an actor to a role is a weird kind of racism.

To clarify, I'm not disagreeing that it's a weird kind of racism. Telling someone you can't play a part because of your skin color certainly feels racist. I just don't know what to do about it. Representation is important as it makes actual difference in people's lives to see people who look like themselves on the big screen, especially as main characters. Maybe I'm saying the world is racist and we work with what we have? Maybe what I really need to say is I should take a shower and go to work because this isn't going to solved on Fark.


Telling someone they can't play a role because of the color of their skin is racist. What's also racist is only complaining about it when it affects white actors.

For a century in Hollywood, Africans could only play explicitly African characters. Asians could only play Asian characters. If the script didn't specify the race or skin color of a character, that character was assumed to be white and only white actors were considered.

So when Asian actors, who traditionally were only considered for Asian roles, see those roles going to white actors, yeah they should speak up. If minorities had equal access to all roles where race/color isn't inherent to the character, there wouldn't be as many complaints about white actors being cast as minorities.

If you're only speaking up for color-blind casting when it affects white people, you're not helping.
 
2022-08-09 11:53:18 AM  

KWess: The people who care about that sort of thing can't be deterred by the inconvenient truth that the actual people they're offended for don't actually give a crap most of the time.

They're offended enough for everyone.

John Lequizamo played a French-little person (Toulouse-Lautrec) on his knees.

Who, in this case, casts the first stone?


Also Castro, while he was born and grew up in this hemisphere, was the son of two Spaniards.  Hispanic?  Sure.  But arguably not Latino, by some definitions at least.  Franco is part Portuguese decended, so he's at least got blood from the Castro family neighborhood.
 
2022-08-09 11:54:03 AM  

Kriggerel: Nah, the absolute dead ringerfor El Presidente is Justin Trudeau.


Northern: Kriggerel: Nah, the absolute dead ringerfor El Presidente is Justin Trudeau.

Trudeau prefers black roles.



I found the two guys backing the racist asshat who not only courts the white nationalist vote but has said "t*r b*by" not once but twice on the floor of the House of Commons.
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(The Castro/Trudeau bullshat is a right-wing conspiracy/fantasy that they all jerk off to)
 
2022-08-09 11:59:13 AM  

cnocnanrionnag: Actor of ethnicity A shouldn't play character of ethnicity B. Got it.

So Gary Oldman should only play English men.  Meryl Streep only American women. And Al Pacino only Italian-American men. And Denzel Washington can't be Macbeth because he's jussssst a little bit outside of being Scottish.  And Hugh Laurie perpetrated the cultural assimilation of the century by playing House and not telling his American audience that he was English.....Oh the humanity!!

And then there's Hamilton.


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2022-08-09 12:02:11 PM  

Naido: [Fark user image 425x233]

Looking for Italians in this pic, and I can't find any.


Dude seems to get cast as an Italian a lot for some reason.

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2022-08-09 12:19:41 PM  
If I was Fidel Castro I'd sue for defamation of character.
 
2022-08-09 12:23:03 PM  

Bloody Templar: Naido: [Fark user image 425x233]

Looking for Italians in this pic, and I can't find any.

Dude seems to get cast as an Italian a lot for some reason.

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Well when you cast him in that type of role it counts as diversity. A fine double standard, really.
 
2022-08-09 12:24:05 PM  
Appropriately representative casting has its place, but kvetching and lobbying for it when the actor looks a shiatload like the historical figure they're playing seems petty and counter-productive.
 
2022-08-09 12:34:16 PM  
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Looking for Italians in this pic, and I can't find any.
 
2022-08-09 12:39:00 PM  
The arguement regarding race and ethnicity aside, James Franco shouldn't be getting roles because he's a farking sexual predator and scammed thousands of people who attended his acting school.

Hollywood can find the perfect 18th century Victorian home in the middle of BFE Vermont to film one scene of a movie in, I'm sure they can find a Latino actor who isn't a rapist to play Fidel.
 
2022-08-09 12:50:27 PM  
Hey, white people, why don't you all tell MIGUEL BARDEM who you consider acceptable to cast in his movie!
 
2022-08-09 12:51:54 PM  
A) They don't look alike.

2) Don't cast white actors as other ethnic groups.

D) James Franco sucks.
 
2022-08-09 12:55:05 PM  

mcmnky: If you're only speaking up for color-blind casting when it affects white people, you're not helping.


Conversely, if you're only speaking against color-blind casing when it deals with white people, you're not helping either.
 
2022-08-09 1:13:12 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: zeroman987: Instead of picking a Cuban actor, they picked a non-Cuban sexual harasser?

Honestly, I would say that most Cubans in American don't care about who plays Castro. But it is pretty shiatty.

They could have picked Woody Allen.
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Castro's daughter is too old for him.
 
2022-08-09 1:16:34 PM  

DecemberNitro: A) They don't look alike.

2) Don't cast white actors as other ethnic groups.

D) James Franco sucks.


They may not look alike.  I haven't taken a side by side look. And sure Franco sucks.

But Castro wasn't Latino, arguably, but rather Hispanic white.

Castro was born out of wedlock at his father's farm on 13 August 1926.[2] His father, Ángel Castro y Argiz, a veteran of the Spanish-American War,[3] was a migrant to Cuba from Galicia, in the northwest of Spain.[4] He had become financially successful by growing sugar cane at Las Manacas farm in Birán, Oriente Province.[5] After the collapse of his first marriage he took his household servant, Lina Ruz González - of Canarian [The Canary Islands are part of Spain--although with a little bit of sub-saharan African mixed in] ancestry - as his mistress and later second wife; together they had seven children, among them Fidel.[6]

So Castro was of European stock, with a small bit of North African tossed in.
 
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