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2022-08-08 8:49:17 PM  
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2022-08-08 9:34:26 PM  
Fast, too
 
2022-08-08 11:20:25 PM  
We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.
 
2022-08-09 12:48:55 AM  
Is she going to get a bit part in the next Fast & Furious movie?
 
2022-08-09 12:53:04 AM  
13 prior accidents.... let that sink in
 
2022-08-09 12:54:58 AM  

cwheelie: 13 prior accidents.... let that sink in


in a row?

/try not to get in any accidents on your way thru the parking lot.
 
2022-08-09 12:56:27 AM  
She is a perfect person for extermination. I don't care about her mental health. She is a danger to everyone in existence and has negative value to humanity.
 
2022-08-09 12:59:55 AM  
Somehow that's even worse than if she was really, really, really drunk.

TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.


We're losing it.
 
2022-08-09 1:01:30 AM  
Victims of tragic Windsor Hills crash remembered by family, loved ones
Youtube jSLhOJVoNzw


90mph through an intersection. Sheesh.
 
2022-08-09 1:08:42 AM  
I always hated that intersection. So many idiots think a red light is a suggestion. Especially that one. At least no kids were walking to school.
 
2022-08-09 1:10:31 AM  

TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.


These automatic cars these days kill people. They should be banned, even though the Constitution gives you the right to drive.

/seriously, I suspect that the car malfunctioned. I have seen these electronic accelerators stick, going back to the 1980s when the car manuafacturers started to use them. Before that, if your accelerator broke, it was a mechanical linkage and the car wouldn't go any more.
 
2022-08-09 1:11:53 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/jSLhOJVoNzw?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=40&enablejsapi=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&widgetid=1]
90mph through an intersection. Sheesh.


What the fark.  She ran a busy red light without even slowing down.
Good thing she had a Mercedes so she didn't get killed.
 
2022-08-09 1:14:25 AM  

WastrelWay: They should be banned, even though the Constitution gives you the right to drive.


I really hope this is sarcasm but I can't tell for sure. If it's not, you should go and read the document you've cited.

/welcome to Fark
 
2022-08-09 1:15:16 AM  

cwheelie: 13 prior accidents.... let that sink in


I nearly t-boned a woman while distracted by my GPS probably close 15 years ago now. I actually looked at her face and she saw me as I accidentally blew the red light. Seconds earlier and it would have been worse. I ended up hitting the bumper of some guy and damaging my small car where he barely had a dent. That whole millisecond is seared in my head. It made me far more aware of everything while driving. How someone could have 13 crashes and not think about things is beyond me.
 
2022-08-09 1:15:55 AM  
The cynical part of me says she'll get no prison time, and it might be due to the police or prosecutors accidentally the evidence.
 
2022-08-09 1:21:59 AM  

TwowheelinTim: WastrelWay: They should be banned, even though the Constitution gives you the right to drive.

I really hope this is sarcasm but I can't tell for sure. If it's not, you should go and read the document you've cited.

/welcome to Fark


Welcome to you, too. I wish you had read the rest, the part that began, "seriously..."
 
2022-08-09 1:22:46 AM  

4seasons85!: cwheelie: 13 prior accidents.... let that sink in

I nearly t-boned a woman while distracted by my GPS probably close 15 years ago now. I actually looked at her face and she saw me as I accidentally blew the red light. Seconds earlier and it would have been worse. I ended up hitting the bumper of some guy and damaging my small car where he barely had a dent. That whole millisecond is seared in my head. It made me far more aware of everything while driving. How someone could have 13 crashes and not think about things is beyond me.


Would you read a paper map while you're driving? If the answer is no, then you should not be reading an electronic one either. If the answer is yes, then you should not be allowed to operate a motor vehicle. This is exactly what causes many collisions. And let's stop calling negligent operation "accidental". It's done with intent.
 
2022-08-09 1:24:37 AM  

TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.


You're not wrong. But corporations *do* in fact make money off of insurance premiums. Crashes may eat into profits, but they don't eliminate them.

If we have a stricter rules to keep drivers off the road, then those drivers take with them money spent on insurance premiums, new & used car sales, service parts, toll fees, fuel purchases, etc. And we're still not accounting for all of the associated taxes collected along the way.

Do you really want to take down multiple billion-dollar industries simultaneously just to save some lives? Won't anyone here think if the shareholders?!
 
2022-08-09 1:25:39 AM  

WastrelWay: TwowheelinTim: WastrelWay: They should be banned, even though the Constitution gives you the right to drive.

I really hope this is sarcasm but I can't tell for sure. If it's not, you should go and read the document you've cited.

/welcome to Fark

Welcome to you, too. I wish you had read the rest, the part that began, "seriously..."


I did and it did nothing to mitigate the leading statement in your post. You took the opportunity to blame the vehicle, which is possible but exceedingly rare. The driver of the vehicle that ran through the light was traveling close to 100 miles per hour. It wasn't very likely the car. At all.
 
2022-08-09 1:26:52 AM  
13 prior crashes, and the 14th wipes out most of a family and two other people.

Yet FARKers twist their panties up when I suggest that maybe it's a good idea to let the silicon drive.  It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than the meat.  And the meat sets a really, really low bar to step over.

13 crashes, and not one flag went up.  How the fark did she even have insurance?
 
2022-08-09 1:31:52 AM  

moike: 13 prior crashes, and the 14th wipes out most of a family and two other people.

Yet FARKers twist their panties up when I suggest that maybe it's a good idea to let the silicon drive.  It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than the meat.  And the meat sets a really, really low bar to step over.

13 crashes, and not one flag went up.  How the fark did she even have insurance?


Maybe she was a rich self-entitled asshole? Money can buy you a lot of privilege if you have enough of it.
 
2022-08-09 1:34:05 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: [YouTube video: Victims of tragic Windsor Hills crash remembered by family, loved ones]

90mph through an intersection. Sheesh.


From the direction she was coming, it was all downhill, on a wide road that's pretty much an expressway, with over half a mile since the previous traffic light.

Roads like this seriously need to be redesigned to prevent the possibility of such horrendous crashes. Yeah, there will always be negligent drivers, but we can at least limit the damage they can do.
 
2022-08-09 1:34:51 AM  
WTF was she doing in her car, because it certainly was not driving?

No attempt at all to slow down.  The loss of a whole family is tragic :(
 
2022-08-09 1:42:36 AM  
Here's how bad this was.

George Gascón, the DA of Los Angeles County, is one of those liberals who actually is what the right wing accuses lefties of, in regard to crime.  He isn't just one of those people who wants to improve prisons, find altenatives to prisons for certain criminals, and remove the inequities fromthe system.  He actually is soft on crime.  He really does want to release criminals for dubious reasons.  Many of his policies do mostly benefit truly despicable people.  Many people in his own party are trying to recall him.

But even he's basically saying to throw this woman in the pit.
 
2022-08-09 1:46:52 AM  
You are hereby and thusly renamed...

LADY TOONCES
 
2022-08-09 1:49:13 AM  
"No evidence of drugs or alcohol...but hasn't been ruled out" what the hell does that mean?  Would assume they got breath blood and urine
 
2022-08-09 1:51:14 AM  

TwowheelinTim: WastrelWay: TwowheelinTim: WastrelWay: They should be banned, even though the Constitution gives you the right to drive.

I really hope this is sarcasm but I can't tell for sure. If it's not, you should go and read the document you've cited.

/welcome to Fark

Welcome to you, too. I wish you had read the rest, the part that began, "seriously..."

I did and it did nothing to mitigate the leading statement in your post. You took the opportunity to blame the vehicle, which is possible but exceedingly rare. The driver of the vehicle that ran through the light was traveling close to 100 miles per hour. It wasn't very likely the car. At all.


Ok, thanks. I assure you that I have personally seen cars accelerate by themselves. But... given this woman's history of accidents, it seems that maybe we should ban female drivers, even though their right to drive is protected by the Constitution... :-)
 
2022-08-09 1:51:58 AM  
Holy F*ck. I really wish I had not watched that. It was quite disturbing.
 
dp3 [OhFark]
2022-08-09 1:52:10 AM  

4seasons85!: cwheelie: 13 prior accidents.... let that sink in

I nearly t-boned a woman while distracted by my GPS probably close 15 years ago now. I actually looked at her face and she saw me as I accidentally blew the red light. Seconds earlier and it would have been worse. I ended up hitting the bumper of some guy and damaging my small car where he barely had a dent. That whole millisecond is seared in my head. It made me far more aware of everything while driving. How someone could have 13 crashes and not think about things is beyond me.


I know a guy that got a DUI and had to take classes. It wasn't until they mentioned in the class that their self-destructive behavior could irreversibly alter people's lives that something clicked.

...someone had to spell it out, because otherwise they were just stuck into the mentality that they're only taking their own lives into their hands. And even this guy will say that he had never thought about it that way. (Don't know how, but he mustn't be the only one.)

/ncsb
 
2022-08-09 1:56:49 AM  

Langdon_777: WTF was she doing in her car, because it certainly was not driving?

No attempt at all to slow down.  The loss of a whole family is tragic :(


I saw a story suggesting it was an attempted suicide over her boyfriend dumping her, but I can't locate at the moment.  None of the mainstream news sources mention it so perhaps it was nothing.
 
2022-08-09 1:59:38 AM  

TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.


We also have extremely lax standards when it comes to vehicle inspections and road readiness and maintenance.

Potholes on the street? Too bad.  Vehicle have tires that have no tread? Oh well.  Summer tires in winter? Oh well.  Break pads? Until they're metal on metal put it off...

Basic preventive maintenance is a joke in the US.
 
2022-08-09 2:10:27 AM  

acouvis: TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.

We also have extremely lax standards when it comes to vehicle inspections and road readiness and maintenance.

Potholes on the street? Too bad.  Vehicle have tires that have no tread? Oh well.  Summer tires in winter? Oh well.  Break pads? Until they're metal on metal put it off...

Basic preventive maintenance is a joke in the US.


Agreed. But again, collisions due to vehicle malfunction are exceedingly rare; it's about 2%. Motor vehicle deaths are almost ALWAYS due to negligent operation on the part of one or more vehicle operators.

And don't get started on snow, fog or dust storms. When you hear about 30 car pile-ups it's because at least some of the operators were going too fast for present conditions.
 
2022-08-09 2:10:35 AM  

aerojockey: Langdon_777: WTF was she doing in her car, because it certainly was not driving?

No attempt at all to slow down.  The loss of a whole family is tragic :(

I saw a story suggesting it was an attempted suicide over her boyfriend dumping her, but I can't locate at the moment.  None of the mainstream news sources mention it so perhaps it was nothing.


My first thought based on the video is that this was intentional.  Nobody makes a mistake that large at that speed.
 
mjg
2022-08-09 2:33:04 AM  
Good luck everybody else.

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2022-08-09 2:43:39 AM  

WastrelWay: TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.

These automatic cars these days kill people. They should be banned, even though the Constitution gives you the right to drive.

/seriously, I suspect that the car malfunctioned. I have seen these electronic accelerators stick, going back to the 1980s when the car manuafacturers started to use them. Before that, if your accelerator broke, it was a mechanical linkage and the car wouldn't go any more.


Brakes always win, if the accelerator is stuck, lift foot, press brake. I hope the data recorder survived, it will show what the car and driver were doing. It wont know she was texting or making a video for Instagram or tik tok.
 
2022-08-09 2:46:57 AM  

WillofJ2: "No evidence of drugs or alcohol...but hasn't been ruled out" what the hell does that mean?  Would assume they got breath blood and urine


It takes a week or two for the blood. Breath is only good for booze, and perhaps they didn't bother with a urine sample initially.

The blood will tell them everything. Give it time.

Side note: It took three weeks for Bob Saget's toxicology tests.
 
2022-08-09 2:55:07 AM  

TwowheelinTim: acouvis: TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.

We also have extremely lax standards when it comes to vehicle inspections and road readiness and maintenance.

Potholes on the street? Too bad.  Vehicle have tires that have no tread? Oh well.  Summer tires in winter? Oh well.  Break pads? Until they're metal on metal put it off...

Basic preventive maintenance is a joke in the US.

Agreed. But again, collisions due to vehicle malfunction are exceedingly rare; it's about 2%. Motor vehicle deaths are almost ALWAYS due to negligent operation on the part of one or more vehicle operators.

And don't get started on snow, fog or dust storms. When you hear about 30 car pile-ups it's because at least some of the operators were going too fast for present conditions.


um.. I am in no way saying negligence isn't the major factor etc etc etc, but 2% isn't exceedingly rare.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-08-09 2:56:02 AM  

TwowheelinTim: Would you read a paper map while you're driving?


Is it a really sexy map?
 
2022-08-09 2:57:55 AM  

mjg: Good luck everybody else.

[Fark user image image 281x200]


Are you alleging that the driver in question got into these accidents because of her race?

/how unfark of you
 
2022-08-09 2:59:42 AM  

deffuse: um.. I am in no way saying negligence isn't the major factor etc etc etc, but 2% isn't exceedingly rare.


Yeah? well ya know, that just like uh, your opinion man.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-08-09 3:00:24 AM  
You know what?  I would like for a map to read to me, especially the classics and an abridged Moby Dick.  It could lead me forever to get where I'm going only to find out that 7-11 was there all along.  thats the kind of map I'm all about, but with tits.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-08-09 3:02:00 AM  
They call them relief maps but man I've been getting none:
 
2022-08-09 3:05:50 AM  

TwowheelinTim: deffuse: um.. I am in no way saying negligence isn't the major factor etc etc etc, but 2% isn't exceedingly rare.

Yeah? well ya know, that just like uh, your opinion man.


Dude.  Those statistics really tied the room together man.
 
2022-08-09 3:12:55 AM  
It seems like she's just a typical Mercedes driver?   100% selfish, completely oblivious, has no idea the car even has turn signals.
 
2022-08-09 3:21:31 AM  

moike: 13 prior crashes, and the 14th wipes out most of a family and two other people.

Yet FARKers twist their panties up when I suggest that maybe it's a good idea to let the silicon drive.  It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than the meat.  And the meat sets a really, really low bar to step over.

13 crashes, and not one flag went up.  How the fark did she even have insurance?


I'm all for autonomous driving but the problem isn't the computers it's the humans that with biatch, complain, scream, cry and fight the whole way there.  We couldn't get people to get a couple shots to protect people from Covid. Can you imagine not driving that lifted truck burning diesel/coal down the highway sticking it to the libs?
 
2022-08-09 3:28:23 AM  

deffuse: TwowheelinTim: acouvis: TwowheelinTim: We killed over 42,000 people with our automobiles last year. We keep making our automobiles safer to crash yet the death toll keeps going up. Our standards for deciding who is allowed to operate a motor vehicle are clearly a problem and law enforcement is a joke. People speed and run red lights with impunity until they pull something like this. I see it every single day.

We also have extremely lax standards when it comes to vehicle inspections and road readiness and maintenance.

Potholes on the street? Too bad.  Vehicle have tires that have no tread? Oh well.  Summer tires in winter? Oh well.  Break pads? Until they're metal on metal put it off...

Basic preventive maintenance is a joke in the US.

Agreed. But again, collisions due to vehicle malfunction are exceedingly rare; it's about 2%. Motor vehicle deaths are almost ALWAYS due to negligent operation on the part of one or more vehicle operators.

And don't get started on snow, fog or dust storms. When you hear about 30 car pile-ups it's because at least some of the operators were going too fast for present conditions.

um.. I am in no way saying negligence isn't the major factor etc etc etc, but 2% isn't exceedingly rare.



That is 2% of all collisions.  According to a quick Google search for "what percentage of auto collisions are fatal?", only about 1.0% to 0.7% of car crashes are fatal.  2% of that is a tiny number, which is what I assume the poster is saying.

On the other hand, SOMEBODY has to win the bad-luck lottery once in a while.  But here, the driver's history of crashes suggests a much more likely explanation.
 
2022-08-09 3:29:36 AM  

cyberspacedout: centrifugal bumblepuppy: [YouTube video: Victims of tragic Windsor Hills crash remembered by family, loved ones]

90mph through an intersection. Sheesh.

From the direction she was coming, it was all downhill, on a wide road that's pretty much an expressway, with over half a mile since the previous traffic light.

Roads like this seriously need to be redesigned to prevent the possibility of such horrendous crashes. Yeah, there will always be negligent drivers, but we can at least limit the damage they can do.


La Cienega is the road rated for 55 , not La Brea .
 
2022-08-09 3:36:40 AM  
If she wasn't drunk or on something then what?  This was willful/intentional??  She was going 90 on a public road, a car basically exploded and 2 people died in another car!

Is this going to be one of those "I wanted to kill myself" but then failed at the last moment killing others thing?
 
2022-08-09 4:11:40 AM  

alienated: cyberspacedout: centrifugal bumblepuppy: [YouTube video: Victims of tragic Windsor Hills crash remembered by family, loved ones]

90mph through an intersection. Sheesh.

From the direction she was coming, it was all downhill, on a wide road that's pretty much an expressway, with over half a mile since the previous traffic light.

Roads like this seriously need to be redesigned to prevent the possibility of such horrendous crashes. Yeah, there will always be negligent drivers, but we can at least limit the damage they can do.

La Cienega is the road rated for 55 , not La Brea .


It's not rated for 90, either, but apparently it can happen.

That section of La Brea going through the hills has a posted limit of 45, but it's 3 lanes in each direction, on a 6% grade, and a few slight curves. Reckless drivers going downhill can easily get out of control, which makes a crash like this at the next intersection all the more potentially deadly for those involved.

Through the hills, La Cienega was originally built as a freeway, when they were planning state route 170. La Brea wasn't, but it still seems to have been built for speed.
 
2022-08-09 6:13:13 AM  
It's like Back to the Future, except with reckless murder.

So pretty much Back to the Future 3.
 
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