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(WGBH Boston)   Add "beachside homeowners in Massachusetts" to the growing list of worthless asshats infesting this country   (wgbh.org) divider line
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4868 clicks; posted to Main » on 08 Aug 2022 at 8:40 PM (25 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-08 7:23:43 PM  
Add? Hell, they were at the top of the list before the 14th state was added!
 
2022-08-08 7:40:33 PM  
I rarely side with rich people except when it comes to beach traffic.  If I ever get rich, I'm buying a beach and releasing the hounds.
 
2022-08-08 8:42:04 PM  
I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.
 
2022-08-08 8:42:22 PM  
Sounds like they're mostly infesting Massachusetts.

Which is fine with me.
 
2022-08-08 8:44:34 PM  
Here is the thing- if you don't regulate parking in your town you don't get to park in your town.  Set aside spaces for the locals... well, that's fewer spaces for visitors- don't set aside spaces, locals can't park.

The real solution is a mix of mass transit and looking at building walkable neighborhoods.
 
2022-08-08 8:44:44 PM  
Be advised tfa mis-states Commonwealth property law.
 
2022-08-08 8:49:23 PM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.



Tell us you are not wealthy without telling us you are not wealthy.
 
2022-08-08 8:50:39 PM  

HoratioGates: Here is the thing- if you don't regulate parking in your town you don't get to park in your town.  Set aside spaces for the locals... well, that's fewer spaces for visitors- don't set aside spaces, locals can't park.

The real solution is a mix of mass transit and looking at building walkable neighborhoods.


All parking is metered but locals get a free pass they can put on their car (and said pass must be registered to said car so that they can't just loan it to visitors). Seems like the easiest solution.
 
2022-08-08 8:52:03 PM  
This country needs right to roam statutes.
 
2022-08-08 8:56:42 PM  
"Ok, call the police"

On the other hand the dude that was pushing around the 80 year old woman needs to be dragged across some barnacles.
 
2022-08-08 8:58:29 PM  
"Y'know the thing about a rich Cape Cod fark, they've got... lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a Wall Street fund manager's eyes. When they comes at ya in their glossy black SUV, doesn't seem to be livin'... until they stop short. And those black eyes roll over white, and then... oh, then you hear that terrible high-pitch complainin', the narrow street turns hostile, and spite of all the poundin' and the hollerin', they all come in and they... tell you to go the fark back to Boston."

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2022-08-08 9:08:20 PM  

HoratioGates: Here is the thing- if you don't regulate parking in your town you don't get to park in your town.  Set aside spaces for the locals... well, that's fewer spaces for visitors- don't set aside spaces, locals can't park.

The real solution is a mix of mass transit and looking at building walkable neighborhoods.


I lived in a very liberal town for the bulk of my early adulthood.

The gestapo could have taken notes from our parking authority.
 
2022-08-08 9:09:55 PM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.


I've seen what the public does here in California to areas where they have access. I'm not an elitist but I support blocking off beach access as a way to save at least some of the beaches. I side with the wealthy on this and I blame my fellow riffraff for forcing me into this position.
 
2022-08-08 9:10:48 PM  

Lumber Jack Off: HoratioGates: Here is the thing- if you don't regulate parking in your town you don't get to park in your town.  Set aside spaces for the locals... well, that's fewer spaces for visitors- don't set aside spaces, locals can't park.

The real solution is a mix of mass transit and looking at building walkable neighborhoods.

All parking is metered but locals get a free pass they can put on their car (and said pass must be registered to said car so that they can't just loan it to visitors). Seems like the easiest solution.


Yeah, that's what Donald Shoup would probably say.  That at least fixes part of the problem, but it means visitors won't be able to park, and out of towners can't vote for mass transit and zoning changes- same reasons hotels have all sorts of taxes and fees- locals don't have to pay them.  Local businesses pay lots of taxes, and they need tourists, and residents don't pay as high taxes because the businesses help fund the government, but then the locals don't vote for mass transit.
 
2022-08-08 9:11:16 PM  

Ragin' Asian: This country needs right to roam statutes.


Yes, and people need to not be assholes.  No one would care if people were generally respectful, but in general they aren't.

I don't have any ocean experience, but here in Illinois we have folks wanting to shut down river access through private property because of assholes who leave trash everywhere.  In my experience it is mostly the asshole fishermen (who leave worm cups, stray line, and bobbers/lures all over the place), tubers (who have a lot of unsecured stuff and generally just treat the river as a place to hoot, holler, and get drunk), and people with kids (balloons, random plastic shiat, and wrappers from individually wrapped snacks).

I think the best solution is just to make littering a capital offense.
 
2022-08-08 9:14:12 PM  
Parking is a big problem, especially when it affects you. A bunch of duplexes were built across the street from my office......with one parking space each. So, the extra cars were parking in my parking lot and preventing patients from parking.  I gave them all a warning "you continue parking here and you will get towed".
Now they're getting towed. Park your extra cars somewhere else.
 
2022-08-08 9:14:12 PM  

Mentat: I rarely side with rich people except when it comes to beach traffic.  If I ever get rich, I'm buying a beach and releasing the hounds.


Literally?

You don't need anything that will scare people off.  just ones that will make the beach unappealing to them.

Right on that kid's sand castle:

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2022-08-08 9:14:27 PM  
Don't worry. They'll be not so proud owners of underwater property in a scant few years.

How many glacial shelves are in imminent danger of collapse?

Pretty much time to doomsay.
 
2022-08-08 9:20:14 PM  

Ragin' Asian: This country needs right to roam statutes.


If you want to.

Our you could roam around the world...
 
2022-08-08 9:24:13 PM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.


Yup.  I was so confused the one time I went to Martha's Vineyard.

The idea that someone could own the beach was totally alien to me.
 
2022-08-08 9:32:37 PM  

Bonzo_1116: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.

Yup.  I was so confused the one time I went to Martha's Vineyard.

The idea that someone could own the beach was totally alien to me.


Yeah, that one surprised me as well.  The private beach thing is bullshiat, but the parking thing is legit.  If a town wants to pay for parking and beach facilities using the residents' taxes, not sure why non-residents are entitled to park there.  Take an Uber and walk on the beach.  Or coordinate with a bunch of friends and do your own car shuttle thing.  Or drag your cooler a couple blocks from the pay lot.  Or are people just biatching because they're lazy?

But the private "you can't walk on the beach from the low tide line up" thing is complete bullshiat.
 
2022-08-08 10:12:15 PM  

LineNoise: HoratioGates: Here is the thing- if you don't regulate parking in your town you don't get to park in your town.  Set aside spaces for the locals... well, that's fewer spaces for visitors- don't set aside spaces, locals can't park.

The real solution is a mix of mass transit and looking at building walkable neighborhoods.

I lived in a very liberal town for the bulk of my early adulthood.

The gestapo could have taken notes from our parking authority.


Yeah that's called Limo NIMBY liberals.  Lots of towns like that.  Lived next to a town in NJ where the black neighborhood butted up against the rich liberal whiteys.   Doncha know,  they put up gates on certain thru streets some years ago.  Some press coverage but not much. Go figure.   The day Biden got elected they all drove thru downtown in their Mercedes SUVs beeping their horns and hootin and hollering with the people walking around with their $17 Starbucks coffees.   Not a POC in sight, i can assure you.
 
2022-08-08 10:18:14 PM  

Birnone: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.

I've seen what the public does here in California to areas where they have access. I'm not an elitist but I support blocking off beach access as a way to save at least some of the beaches. I side with the wealthy on this and I blame my fellow riffraff for forcing me into this position.


Why?  The ocean itself is public, so shouldn't the beach up to the high tide mark.  There should also be free unrestricted travel through any beach, salt water or fresh water.
That doesn't mean you can have a bbq with loud music and put your pontoon boat through that persons yard.  It also doesn't mean you can trespass through someone's land to get there except by the beach or ocean.  Think of it legally like a sidewalk.
Most (?) beachfront owners would be happy for the arrangement if it meant the town or state also maintained the beach and replaced the sand every few years to maintain property values.
 
2022-08-08 10:22:14 PM  
I grew up in RI a couple blocks from the beach and people came from all over to go there, so they'd hire some college kid to ensure people had a permit before they'd let them park on the street. One year the kid was my high school debate partner. He said it was the easiest job he ever had because the lot was full by 11AM but they paid him through 4PM.

They don't check anything if you walk or bike, they just care about parking for cars, because there's only about 65, maybe 75 spots. You can park on the street three blocks away by the cemetery and walk over. Since I left, the town improved the basic shower to really nice shower/bathroom/changing rooms.

/When I was a kid the beach novelty wore off pretty fast after the first sunburn of the summer. Nothing like biking home with salt drying on your already burned skin.
//By the time I was in high school, I only went there at night.
///And now, in my 50s, I get to have bits of skin cancer carved off. Yar.
 
2022-08-08 10:24:07 PM  

Marshmallow Jones: LineNoise: HoratioGates:   ...Doncha know,  they put up gates on certain thru streets some years ago...


Don'cha know is a preposition that appears only at the end of a sentence.

It's a question but it's more a declaration of, "even an idiot would know that."

So the use is right, but it needs to be at the end.

There are intro "yadda yadda" type phrases that work, but they're for skipping to the good part of the story.

It really is a complex regional dialect.
 
2022-08-08 10:30:12 PM  
All in all it's still a better arrangement than the Red neck Riviera which air b n bs the shiat out of anything near the water.  Try a different group of 20-30 drunken slags renting the place next door every weekend.
 
2022-08-08 10:33:34 PM  

Northern: Birnone: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.

I've seen what the public does here in California to areas where they have access. I'm not an elitist but I support blocking off beach access as a way to save at least some of the beaches. I side with the wealthy on this and I blame my fellow riffraff for forcing me into this position.

Why?  The ocean itself is public, so shouldn't the beach up to the high tide mark.  There should also be free unrestricted travel through any beach, salt water or fresh water.
That doesn't mean you can have a bbq with loud music and put your pontoon boat through that persons yard.  It also doesn't mean you can trespass through someone's land to get there except by the beach or ocean.  Think of it legally like a sidewalk.
Most (?) beachfront owners would be happy for the arrangement if it meant the town or state also maintained the beach and replaced the sand every few years to maintain property values.


I'm from Southern California. So 'public access' means parking, lots of parking. People are going there by cars and trucks, not via boat. And people bring things, from chairs and umbrellas to ice chests and bottles/cans. Public access doesn't mean distant parking and everyone has to hike in via a beach trail. You are talking about an ideal way to access the beach that only allows a relatively small amount of people to use. I'm talking about how the public would really use it. You see how crowded places like Yosemite get? You have to put limits on access or the place will be trashed in no time. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
 
2022-08-08 10:38:19 PM  
OMG complain about SCUBA divers on a public beach?  You bought the champ.
 
2022-08-08 10:43:53 PM  

Snort: OMG complain about SCUBA divers on a public beach?  You bought the champ.


Got an expensive parking ticket one fall afternoon in Nahant for diving. We got a lecture from the Nahant cop that we were in god's country and should get the hell out of Nahant and go back to Boston with all the other college boys.

We were scuba diving...
 
2022-08-08 10:46:54 PM  

Turbo Cojones: All in all it's still a better arrangement than the Red neck Riviera which air b n bs the shiat out of anything near the water.  Try a different group of 20-30 drunken slags renting the place next door every weekend.


we have a requirement for signage attached to the rental, defining how many people and cars can be at a given house. one phone call to code enforcement is all it takes to get that party stopped, up to and including involving the sherriffs office. it seems over the top but it goes a helluva long way towards keeping our neighborhoods sane and quiet...

if the property manager gets there in time, no fine and a warning. if not, 500 dollar fine. if you pull an attitude on the officer, they will happily and smilingly up the fine to 1000 bucks. payable through the same system used to pay parking tickets...

just follow the contract, keep the noise down and dont pull underhanded shiat, and your weekend will go just fine...
 
2022-08-08 11:13:49 PM  

Birnone: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.

I've seen what the public does here in California to areas where they have access. I'm not an elitist but I support blocking off beach access as a way to save at least some of the beaches. I side with the wealthy on this and I blame my fellow riffraff for forcing me into this position.


There's no such thing as private beaches in Hawaii. Every inch of shore line is open to the public. You want to go to the beach in front of the Maui Prince? Walk right through the lobby and go use it. Sure, you get some stories about locals who will try to act tough, call you haole, and tell you "their" beach is for "locals only." But the only time I have ever heard about that happening is when some tourist decides to rent a board and try surfing in the middle of people who actually know what they're doing.
 
2022-08-08 11:17:21 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Parking is a big problem, especially when it affects you. A bunch of duplexes were built across the street from my office......with one parking space each. So, the extra cars were parking in my parking lot and preventing patients from parking.  I gave them all a warning "you continue parking here and you will get towed".
Now they're getting towed. Park your extra cars somewhere else.


That's on the city/municipality for allowing residences with inadequate parking. It's a huge pet peeve of mine, and those who suffer are the ignorant putzes who end up renting the place.
 
2022-08-08 11:40:21 PM  
The parking at Good Harbor beach in Gloucester is a biatch. The parking lot floods, a lot. People usually always park on the streets for a long distance. This is a small road so the traffic is going to be nuts getting back to the highway in the evening during the summer.
 
2022-08-08 11:40:40 PM  

Mentat: I rarely side with rich people except when it comes to beach traffic.  If I ever get rich, I'm buying a beach and releasing the hounds.


Not even beach side home is owned by the rich.

This is more of a traffic issue than anything, as population increases the few roads to the beach are not enough.
No matter where you live you would be pissed if you could never get out ofnyour driveway.

We have a girls out light show every year on a very large girl's coat property.  It has increased in popularity to the point where people that live nearby cannot leave their homes for 4 hours a night for most of December.  The girlscouts had to go to appointment only to solve the problem.

We also have town beaches that are for that towns residents only to reduce traffic.
 
2022-08-09 12:01:28 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I like California's solution of simply disallowing the restriction of beach access.


California keeps the undesirables off the beaches by raising the cost of a modest home to $750k anywhere within 150 miles of the beaches with good weather. That way the good people only have to share the beaches with homeless people during the week and only see Satan's army of blue collar dregs and their mewling offsprogs on weekends or holidays
 
2022-08-09 12:04:59 AM  

ctighe2353: a very large girl's coat property.


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2022-08-09 12:36:54 AM  
Is going to a beach really that important?
 
2022-08-09 4:26:16 AM  

Mentat: I rarely side with rich people except when it comes to beach traffic.  If I ever get rich, I'm buying a beach and releasing the hounds.


In my country you're welcome to buy a beach, but you can't restrict public access to it because fark rich people, that's why 🤣
 
2022-08-09 4:43:59 AM  

Dodo David: Is going to a beach really that important?


It's a great activity with the kids, keeps them active all day and us adults can walk, swim, or read under a sun tent.  I have not boozed it up on the beach for a long time, but that can also be fun with friends.  I biked the eastern half of Martha's Vineyard last spring which was really amazing.  Going back there in a few weeks for a music festival.
I dunno, you don't seem like a beach person.
 
2022-08-09 7:26:17 AM  
People swim in the water in Massachusetts? That water is farking freezing. Are they nuts?
 
2022-08-09 8:29:52 AM  
RogermcAllen:

I think the best solution is just to make littering a capital offense.

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2022-08-09 8:07:42 PM  

NathanAllen: Don'cha know is a preposition that appears only at the end of a sentence.


I was an English major in college.  I'm going to give them on a pass on this as poetic license.  Move along.  Nothing to see here.
 
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