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(Some Guy)   Want to watch TV but sick of paying for too many streaming services? Good news, there's this technology that will let you find TV shows by sticking up a piece of metal and grabbing them from thin air. What is this witchcraft, you say?   (ustimespost.com) divider line
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2022-08-08 3:40:37 PM  
Eh... I have Netflix, Motortrend+, Discovery+, and Amazon Video, totals about $40/month. Finally gonna cancel DirecTV after nearly 20 years. Will be nice to net an extra ~$110 in the monthly budget.
 
2022-08-08 3:51:47 PM  
Someone should bundle all these streaming services into a package sold at one price. They could deliver it via coaxial cable to your house.
 
2022-08-08 3:58:29 PM  
A lot will depend on your area and ability to receive a signal and the type of antenna you get and your TV's internal turner's quality.

We 'cut the cord' a couple of years ago and used a old 'channel master' that was hanging around the family garage. Strapped that bad boy to a poll on the side of the house and it picks up just fine about 50 channel...of course 25 of those are Jesus.
But for the basic 12 or so "Network" channels...it's just fine. In fact the channels that broad cast in HDTV rate a bit better in resolution than the cable the time.

It's all situational for your home/location. But those little desktop 'HDTV ANTENNAS' are gimmicks. Just get a basic 'rabbit ears/with UHF'
It's still boils down to your location and antenna placement.

Also...OTA signal strength can vary by season, in hilly areas/wooded areas...the trees with leaves full of MOISTURE can dampen signals, and rain storms can weaken signals.

It's worth a shot to get a cheapo antenna and do a scan on your TV to see what shows up...and then go mad with better antennas, mounting, directional stuff, etc.
 
2022-08-08 4:25:41 PM  
Considering all the time I spent outside having to fiddle the antenna back and forth while my dad tried to get the least worse grainy picture of some spotsball for the evening (or until the airwave gods decided to randomly futz everything and I was back out playing the widderskins waltz for an hour), Subby can fark all the way off.  My time and comfort are more than compensation for the streaming prices.
 
2022-08-08 4:26:22 PM  
What you do is you get yourself a HDHomerun and a spare PC with a big hard drive that does Intel hardware accelerated encoding or a half decent video card, and a Plex lifetime pass, then you can put Plex server on the spare PC and record all the OTA TV you want and watch it whenever, plus anyone inclined to hoist the Jolly Roger can do that too.
 
2022-08-08 4:33:48 PM  
Unfortunately I'm in a valley that's a deadzone for basically everything, so I'm stuck with cable/fiber/satellite.  I'd love to use an HDHomerun with my Plex server
 
2022-08-08 4:34:17 PM  

bhcompy: Unfortunately I'm in a valley that's a deadzone for basically everything, so I'm stuck with cable/fiber/satellite.  I'd love to use an HDHomerun with my Plex server


Big tall outdoor antenna?
 
2022-08-08 4:41:29 PM  

phalamir: Considering all the time I spent outside having to fiddle the antenna back and forth while my dad tried to get the least worse grainy picture of some spotsball for the evening (or until the airwave gods decided to randomly futz everything and I was back out playing the widderskins waltz for an hour), Subby can fark all the way off.  My time and comfort are more than compensation for the streaming prices.


Most of the rotor 'aimers' are pretty cheap these days and included with some large OTA Antenna package.
But if you live anywhere near a major city, you can just point it there in the 'general area' and pick up most of the city's station.  The fiddly bits of aiming are when you want to pick up some station 90 miles away.

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2022-08-08 4:44:27 PM  
I bought a Fire tv recast which is a DVR with 2 tuners 500GB hd or 4 tuners with 1TB, works well for recording OTA shows
 
2022-08-08 4:46:03 PM  

bhcompy: Unfortunately I'm in a valley that's a deadzone for basically everything, so I'm stuck with cable/fiber/satellite.  I'd love to use an HDHomerun with my Plex server


I've had a HDHomerun for many years. I've used it exactly once, we had some friends and family over on the same day as some big sports event so we popped on the local station covering it. That's literally it. It's neat that it works... but if you already are running a Plex server for most stuff you can just DL files of the show you're looking for.

I have a pretty big library, so keeping all my shows current (I'm a collector, don't even watch 99% of what goes into the library) was almost a second job until I discovered Sonarr a while back. Now it's a breeze.
 
2022-08-08 5:08:34 PM  
Over-the-air is awesome.

Just the Create channel alone is worth the cost of antenna. All the old school programming on AntennaTV, Decades, H&I, Comet and tons more.

You can still get classic Saturday morning cartoons on MeTV.
 
2022-08-08 5:23:46 PM  

null: Big tall outdoor antenna?


Reception is that bad.  I'm between a mountain range on half the channels, and just in bad position for the rest.  Locast was a godsend.  LocalBTV doesn't really have any networks yet, just independent and PBS

And that's disregarding the HOA

mongbiohazard: I've had a HDHomerun for many years. I've used it exactly once, we had some friends and family over on the same day as some big sports event so we popped on the local station covering it. That's literally it. It's neat that it works... but if you already are running a Plex server for most stuff you can just DL files of the show you're looking for.

I have a pretty big library, so keeping all my shows current (I'm a collector, don't even watch 99% of what goes into the library) was almost a second job until I discovered Sonarr a while back. Now it's a breeze.


I want to use it as a DVR primarily.  For downloads, I have ISP concerns and ethical ones on top of that.
 
2022-08-08 5:28:10 PM  
OTA shows are almost always worse than anything on cable/streaming.

/somewhat recent exception: The Good Place
 
2022-08-08 5:30:33 PM  

McGrits: Over-the-air is awesome.

Just the Create channel alone is worth the cost of antenna. All the old school programming on AntennaTV, Decades, H&I, Comet and tons more.

You can still get classic Saturday morning cartoons on MeTV.


The PBS channels are probably the best content on for now -- we get quite a few here in Minneapolis area: Kids, Create (rebranded here as LIFE), weather, Local shows, etc. Up in central Minnesota you can even get PBS stations aimed for First Nations/Native populations. Some of the oldies stations are nice but there's a ton of them of the 50+ stations we get here I'm guessing half show reruns of some sort. MeTV and AntennaTV are the best, it seems.

Unfortunately the problem is that ATSC2.0 sucks when it comes to keeping a signal, you lose it on old analog for a few seconds when a car goes by it's fine. On ATSC2 the whole thing drops out. In theory the new standard ATSC3.0 is supposed to be far better, but they'll have to market hard and convince people it's worth it.
 
2022-08-08 5:34:08 PM  
Believe it or not, I get antenna reception by plugging in the coaxial cable to my tv. I don't pay for cable, so it doesn't do anything, but for whatever reason, when it's plugged in to the tv, I get reception to all the free broadcast channels. Some channels get better reception than others, but it's free so...

Also, it seems like every manufacturer brand has their own free tv streaming services. LG has LG channels. Samsung has their own live tv thing. I'm sure the others have their own free stuff too.

There's plenty of free tv entertainment out there. Maybe not great programming, but it's free.
 
2022-08-08 5:34:24 PM  

null: What you do is you get yourself a HDHomerun and a spare PC with a big hard drive that does Intel hardware accelerated encoding or a half decent video card, and a Plex lifetime pass, then you can put Plex server on the spare PC and record all the OTA TV you want and watch it whenever, plus anyone inclined to hoist the Jolly Roger can do that too.


I bought a HDHomeRun receiver about 12 years ago and it's been great. Even worked when I briefly had locals-only cable. I set up a Raspberry Pi with TVHeadEnd and had a DVR for the 2-3 shows I watched consistently.

Even without the Pi I can bring it up on any device, great for the Super Bowl, Baseball, Thanksgiving Parades, etc.
 
2022-08-08 5:42:50 PM  

bhcompy: null: Big tall outdoor antenna?

Reception is that bad.  I'm between a mountain range on half the channels, and just in bad position for the rest.  Locast was a godsend.  LocalBTV doesn't really have any networks yet, just independent and PBS

And that's disregarding the HOA

mongbiohazard: I've had a HDHomerun for many years. I've used it exactly once, we had some friends and family over on the same day as some big sports event so we popped on the local station covering it. That's literally it. It's neat that it works... but if you already are running a Plex server for most stuff you can just DL files of the show you're looking for.

I have a pretty big library, so keeping all my shows current (I'm a collector, don't even watch 99% of what goes into the library) was almost a second job until I discovered Sonarr a while back. Now it's a breeze.

I want to use it as a DVR primarily.  For downloads, I have ISP concerns and ethical ones on top of that.


Well, if you're DL'ing shows being broadcast OTA for free then I think that should alleviate some of the ethical concern. And a proxy will take care of the practical concerns (well, won't do much for a data cap).

But, if it's still an issue for you many of the broadcast TV channels have their own Roku apps, and you should be able to watch at least some of their content for free that way without an antenna. And there's also subscription options which you could use.
 
2022-08-08 5:51:54 PM  

bhcompy: null: Big tall outdoor antenna?

Reception is that bad.  I'm between a mountain range on half the channels, and just in bad position for the rest.  Locast was a godsend.  LocalBTV doesn't really have any networks yet, just independent and PBS

And that's disregarding the HOA

mongbiohazard: I've had a HDHomerun for many years. I've used it exactly once, we had some friends and family over on the same day as some big sports event so we popped on the local station covering it. That's literally it. It's neat that it works... but if you already are running a Plex server for most stuff you can just DL files of the show you're looking for.

I have a pretty big library, so keeping all my shows current (I'm a collector, don't even watch 99% of what goes into the library) was almost a second job until I discovered Sonarr a while back. Now it's a breeze.

I want to use it as a DVR primarily.  For downloads, I have ISP concerns and ethical ones on top of that.


Tell your HOA to fark right off.

https://www.hopb.co/over-the-air-reception-devices-otard-rule#:~:text=What%20Types%20of%20HOA%20Restrictions,or%20use%20of%20the%20devices.
 
2022-08-08 5:57:43 PM  
Even if we're paying as much as we used to with cable it's still worth it to be able to watch what I want when I want to. Aside from maybe two hours at the end of the night, most channel lineups are complete wastelands. Comedy Central is pretty much Seinfeld and the goddamned Office, Cartoon network is all Teen Titans Go and Gumball. Even on their 40th anniversary, MTV played nothing but Ridiculousness the whole day.
 
2022-08-08 6:04:11 PM  

csi_yellowknife: McGrits: Over-the-air is awesome.

Just the Create channel alone is worth the cost of antenna. All the old school programming on AntennaTV, Decades, H&I, Comet and tons more.

You can still get classic Saturday morning cartoons on MeTV.

The PBS channels are probably the best content on for now -- we get quite a few here in Minneapolis area: Kids, Create (rebranded here as LIFE), weather, Local shows, etc. Up in central Minnesota you can even get PBS stations aimed for First Nations/Native populations. Some of the oldies stations are nice but there's a ton of them of the 50+ stations we get here I'm guessing half show reruns of some sort. MeTV and AntennaTV are the best, it seems.

Unfortunately the problem is that ATSC2.0 sucks when it comes to keeping a signal, you lose it on old analog for a few seconds when a car goes by it's fine. On ATSC2 the whole thing drops out. In theory the new standard ATSC3.0 is supposed to be far better, but they'll have to market hard and convince people it's worth it.


I have been watching (on YouTube) a Minnesota PBS program called Minnesota Hardcore. It is freaking awesome to see the punk/hard-core scene from a 1980's Minneapolis perspective.
 
2022-08-08 6:06:22 PM  
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2022-08-08 6:10:24 PM  
Does not apply to everyone.

I would need a minimum 60 foot tower with a deep field antenna to pick up even one local station, less than 25 miles away. (Hills, yes, I've had a pro double check).

But hey, I get to pay, now $25 a month for a 'broadcast surcharge' to my cable company so I can get weather warnings.

Screw pompous spoiled jackass influencers who think they know it all.
 
2022-08-08 6:17:10 PM  
Yeah...the shiat I get for free over the air is absolute trash.  It's mostly commercials or religious.
 
2022-08-08 6:23:42 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Someone should bundle all these streaming services into a package sold at one price. They could deliver it via coaxial cable to your house.



if you live in or near a decent sized city, you'd be surprised at the number of over the air stations you can get for free.  just needs a 50 to 100 dollar antenna.
 
2022-08-08 6:24:13 PM  

Explodo: Yeah...the shiat I get for free over the air is absolute trash.  It's mostly commercials or religious.


iow, Murcan TV.......
 
2022-08-08 6:24:59 PM  

Linux_Yes: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Someone should bundle all these streaming services into a package sold at one price. They could deliver it via coaxial cable to your house.


if you live in or near a decent sized city, you'd be surprised at the number of over the air stations you can get for free.  just needs a 50 to 100 dollar antenna.


What free channels are there for you?  I live in Denver and the free stuff is absolute garbage.
 
2022-08-08 6:25:11 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: OTA shows are almost always worse than anything on cable/streaming.

/somewhat recent exception: The Good Place


If you're a Comcast customer , they're charging you a broadcast fee for not using a free service ..
 
2022-08-08 6:25:43 PM  

Explodo: Yeah...the shiat I get for free over the air is absolute trash.  It's mostly commercials or religious.



the religious is there to keep you docile and letting Jesus handle things for you while big business and the rich plow your asshole on a daily basis.

it's a Public Service
 
2022-08-08 6:27:47 PM  

Explodo: Linux_Yes: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Someone should bundle all these streaming services into a package sold at one price. They could deliver it via coaxial cable to your house.


if you live in or near a decent sized city, you'd be surprised at the number of over the air stations you can get for free.  just needs a 50 to 100 dollar antenna.

What free channels are there for you?  I live in Denver and the free stuff is absolute garbage.


i stream youtube premium and Roku.  premium is all i pay for.  the roku stuff is mostly free unless you want some premium stuff.

Pluto TV on roku is chock full of goodies for free. there are other good ones too.

i can't do over the air because mountains are in the way and block the signals.
 
2022-08-08 6:29:38 PM  

Explodo: Linux_Yes: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Someone should bundle all these streaming services into a package sold at one price. They could deliver it via coaxial cable to your house.


if you live in or near a decent sized city, you'd be surprised at the number of over the air stations you can get for free.  just needs a 50 to 100 dollar antenna.

What free channels are there for you?  I live in Denver and the free stuff is absolute garbage.


but is is true that the commercials and propaganda on over the air broadcasts can be challenging.
 
2022-08-08 6:30:01 PM  

null: What you do is you get yourself a HDHomerun and a spare PC with a big hard drive that does Intel hardware accelerated encoding or a half decent video card, and a Plex lifetime pass, then you can put Plex server on the spare PC and record all the OTA TV you want and watch it whenever, plus anyone inclined to hoist the Jolly Roger can do that too.


Exactly what I do.
 
2022-08-08 6:32:39 PM  

optikeye: phalamir: Considering all the time I spent outside having to fiddle the antenna back and forth while my dad tried to get the least worse grainy picture of some spotsball for the evening (or until the airwave gods decided to randomly futz everything and I was back out playing the widderskins waltz for an hour), Subby can fark all the way off.  My time and comfort are more than compensation for the streaming prices.

Most of the rotor 'aimers' are pretty cheap these days and included with some large OTA Antenna package.
But if you live anywhere near a major city, you can just point it there in the 'general area' and pick up most of the city's station.  The fiddly bits of aiming are when you want to pick up some station 90 miles away.

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I grew up in rural north Florida.  And I currently live in an honest-to-Gawd meteor crater.  Fiddy-Bits is my farking middle name
 
2022-08-08 6:33:44 PM  

McGrits: csi_yellowknife: McGrits: Over-the-air is awesome.

Just the Create channel alone is worth the cost of antenna. All the old school programming on AntennaTV, Decades, H&I, Comet and tons more.

You can still get classic Saturday morning cartoons on MeTV.

The PBS channels are probably the best content on for now -- we get quite a few here in Minneapolis area: Kids, Create (rebranded here as LIFE), weather, Local shows, etc. Up in central Minnesota you can even get PBS stations aimed for First Nations/Native populations. Some of the oldies stations are nice but there's a ton of them of the 50+ stations we get here I'm guessing half show reruns of some sort. MeTV and AntennaTV are the best, it seems.

Unfortunately the problem is that ATSC2.0 sucks when it comes to keeping a signal, you lose it on old analog for a few seconds when a car goes by it's fine. On ATSC2 the whole thing drops out. In theory the new standard ATSC3.0 is supposed to be far better, but they'll have to market hard and convince people it's worth it.

I have been watching (on YouTube) a Minnesota PBS program called Minnesota Hardcore. It is freaking awesome to see the punk/hard-core scene from a 1980's Minneapolis perspective.



youtube is the only decent thing left of googles.  the rest of their crap is a mess compared to 10 years ago.  even their search engine is full of ads and crapola.

Presearch. com is what i use now.
and sometimes duckduckgo.com

google has gone down hill.  i guess their sit at home stock owners want more free Precious every year.

and Gmail has turned into a Turd too.

way to go, Google.
 
2022-08-08 6:37:12 PM  

xalres: Even if we're paying as much as we used to with cable it's still worth it to be able to watch what I want when I want to. Aside from maybe two hours at the end of the night, most channel lineups are complete wastelands. Comedy Central is pretty much Seinfeld and the goddamned Office, Cartoon network is all Teen Titans Go and Gumball. Even on their 40th anniversary, MTV played nothing but Ridiculousness the whole day.


that's the name of the Game in murca.

give 'em less and less over time as you charge them more and more over time.

oldest game in the book.

the lazy assed sit at home stock owners benefit and the customers get plowed in the ass.


Murca
 
2022-08-08 6:38:30 PM  

McGrits: Over-the-air is awesome.

Just the Create channel alone is worth the cost of antenna. All the old school programming on AntennaTV, Decades, H&I, Comet and tons more.

You can still get classic Saturday morning cartoons on MeTV.


Roku has alot of goodies too.
 
2022-08-08 6:45:23 PM  
Meh I just pirate everything. If companies didn't want me to do that they wouldn't release shows in my country sometimes weeks or months after they do in the US and UK meaning I have to actively avoid spoilers.


Or I could download them, watch them at my leisure on any device I want without DRM, and without paying for 18 different services that only have one show I want to watch on them.
 
2022-08-08 6:50:38 PM  

mongbiohazard: Well, if you're DL'ing shows being broadcast OTA for free then I think that should alleviate some of the ethical concern. And a proxy will take care of the practical concerns (well, won't do much for a data cap).


Back when "Home Recording" was going to destroy the music industry along with VCR, CD-RWs.
There was a compromise between the RIAA and tape/cd industry. They made 'music quality' Cassettes, VCR Tapes, and CD's. You buy a cassette tape in the 70's...there's a 25 cent fee tacked on that for RIAA to pocket.
And when CD RW there was 'music quality' Cd's. And some cassette boasted 'music quality' for similar price hikes.

The diffrence was the music quality was a fraud.. was just a bump in price to 'supposedly' be handed up to artists in royalty fees.
Nothing in the quality of the product was improved, just packaging and price.

Most artists said they never saw one cent from the ASCAP media price hikes.
 
2022-08-08 7:29:48 PM  
It just won't be the same if this is not involved:

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2022-08-08 9:03:35 PM  

optikeye: A lot will depend on your area and ability to receive a signal and the type of antenna you get and your TV's internal turner's quality.


I bought a $30 Channel Master Flatenna off Amazon that works great for me.

I'm lucky in that there's an "antenna farm" about 7 miles east of me and I have a north/south wall right behind the TV.  Use the Antenna Point app to see where the transmitters are relative to you.

And yes, the picture quality of some of the broadcast HD is amazing.
 
2022-08-09 5:20:33 AM  
...Three words:  Cleveland - Toledo antenna.

/Anybody else from Northern Ohio in those days, shout out
 
2022-08-09 8:56:00 AM  

fatassbastard: Eh... I have Netflix, Motortrend+, Discovery+, and Amazon Video, totals about $40/month. Finally gonna cancel DirecTV after nearly 20 years. Will be nice to net an extra ~$110 in the monthly budget.


Get an antenna, and you can still have sportsball!
 
2022-08-09 9:10:20 AM  
If your a student...check the current Amazon offers for students. They'll run six month free of prime and discount rate after that....I think it was 1/2 off until graduation date.
 
2022-08-09 9:22:00 AM  
And if you're getting Medicare/Medicaid some other gov programs, you can get a discount too...I haven't looked at lately, but I think it was 1/2 price.
 
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