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2022-08-08 6:04:39 PM  
Why do so many people today act this way? Are they mimicking the silliness of the flat earthers, do they believe something is taken from their souls when a photo is snapped? A transaction, really? The same for people who become panicky at the idea of a stranger on the street accidentally capturing their image while snapping pictures of a night out. There seem to be so many stories of people coming to blows over non-celebrity possible unintentional photos. I think it was Gilligan's Island where the idea first came into national consciousness, in the seventies with the Island Head Hunters becoming enraged at Gilligan sporting a coconut camera made by the professor. We all had a big laugh at the ridiculousness of 'stealing your soul' with a camera, but now folks seem to get just as crazy as the Head Hunters.
 
2022-08-08 6:07:52 PM  
I understand his POV. It goes from being a moment where you're getting to know someone to being a "let me get something to remember this by." Like you meet people every day but you don't usually take selfies with them. That said, he should recognize he's more famous than your usual bear and put up with it because he's the high point of someone's day and they'd like proof they actually met him.
 
2022-08-08 6:38:28 PM  
Yeah, like he hasn't had 9,000 pictures taken of him for magazines or whatever.  Oh I see, he prefers people pay for a picture of him.  Sellout.
 
2022-08-08 7:01:50 PM  
What an asshole.
 
2022-08-08 7:45:27 PM  
shall we walk or take a dog by Freddy the Flea perfect for Dr. Demento
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2022-08-08 8:08:53 PM  
So instead, everyone just walk by and grab one of his hairs and pluck it out. You can keep that, because people can just re-grow their hair.
 
2022-08-08 8:43:03 PM  
Surprising statement from a guy like Flea but Steve Martin solved this years ago:
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2022-08-08 8:47:42 PM  
He owes us!
 
2022-08-08 8:58:39 PM  
A lot of celebs don't take pictures with fans. One of the main reasons, which they usually don't disclose, is that people often use those pictures to scam people. One celeb that has gone on the record about this is Robert DeNiro. He has said before that he had to talk to investigators several times about different scams people had run on others using pictures of him taken at different functions to lie and say that they were partners in whatever "business" they were trying get people to invest in. This had happened so many times that he had stopped taking pictures.
 
2022-08-08 8:58:43 PM  
I can't say I blame him.  I hate the whole f*cking "star" mentality that's forced and reinforced every day.  So he's famous?  So what?
 
2022-08-08 9:04:25 PM  
Because the current useless generation can't just have simple human interaction, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it's gotta be an "expeeeeeeeeeeerience"

*jacking-off.gif*
 
2022-08-08 9:13:02 PM  

Lambskincoat: Why do so many people today act this way? Are they mimicking the silliness of the flat earthers, do they believe something is taken from their souls when a photo is snapped? A transaction, really? The same for people who become panicky at the idea of a stranger on the street accidentally capturing their image while snapping pictures of a night out. There seem to be so many stories of people coming to blows over non-celebrity possible unintentional photos. I think it was Gilligan's Island where the idea first came into national consciousness, in the seventies with the Island Head Hunters becoming enraged at Gilligan sporting a coconut camera made by the professor. We all had a big laugh at the ridiculousness of 'stealing your soul' with a camera, but now folks seem to get just as crazy as the Head Hunters.


It probably came into existence in the later 19th century, when there were photogs documenting the vanishing Native cultures, both in the US and in other countries.  Maybe there was some culture that took that stance when they posed for photos and then shown the pictures.  They'd probably seen their images before, via reflections or mirrors, but those were fleeting.  IANAAnthropologist, so I don't know if there's anything to that.  But Flea was born into and a part of the modern Western world and I'm sure he doesn't believe any such thing, having been photo'd and filmed for a decent part of his life.  If anything, he's probably thought about it some and realized that he likes the interactions he has with people when they're free of the artifice of "Hey, pose with me as if you know and like me, please/thankyou/click, all right?"
 
2022-08-08 9:14:43 PM  
I've met a few celebrities and hung with a few bands out back after or at the bar before the show. I've always just said "Hi, I'm Ecliptic..."

They're just people. What kind of ahole friends do you have that you can't say I met XYZ once at The Met and they wouldn't believe you?
 
2022-08-08 9:20:23 PM  
"- Neville Bell: Oh no, you can't take my photograph.
- Sue Charlton: Oh, I'm sorry, you believe it will take your spirit away.
- Neville Bell: No, you got lens-cap on it."
 
2022-08-08 9:21:01 PM  

Lsherm: I understand his POV. It goes from being a moment where you're getting to know someone to being a "let me get something to remember this by." Like you meet people every day but you don't usually take selfies with them. That said, he should recognize he's more famous than your usual bear and put up with it because he's the high point of someone's day and they'd like proof they actually met him.


I think it's the ' proof' that's bumming him out. Have an authentic moment and just be there. I too am sick of every single farking thing needing a bunch of damn selfies to make it count.
 
2022-08-08 9:21:16 PM  
I take pics with randos quite often, but they have no idea who I am. If they did, it wouldn't be the same.
For one, they'd be awake...
 
2022-08-08 9:22:10 PM  
Have never and I expect will never be famous, but I imagine if I was, and I had to make the choice of either spending a few seconds to make someone else's day, vs kinda sour their day by saying no, I'd like to think I'd do the nice thing. The fan is getting more out of it than the celebrity is putting in, that's a net win.

/shrug
 
2022-08-08 9:25:23 PM  

ongbok: A lot of celebs don't take pictures with fans. One of the main reasons, which they usually don't disclose, is that people often use those pictures to scam people. One celeb that has gone on the record about this is Robert DeNiro. He has said before that he had to talk to investigators several times about different scams people had run on others using pictures of him taken at different functions to lie and say that they were partners in whatever "business" they were trying get people to invest in. This had happened so many times that he had stopped taking pictures.


I RTA and he's not really saying he doesn't like taking pictures with fans, he's saying he doesn't like it when people come up only to ask to take a picture rather than being just chill and having a conversation with him which he's cool with.
 
2022-08-08 9:34:49 PM  

Biledriver: Surprising statement from a guy like Flea but Steve Martin solved this years ago:
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Yeah, and Leave it to Steve Martin for a creative solution to the problem.
 
2022-08-08 9:51:35 PM  
tangentially related CSB:

Einstürzende Neubauten played a club I managed. After the show, Blixa Bargeld sat for a meet and greet with whoever wanted to come say hello or get an autograph. I was his security for that. People would come up and just push whatever they wanted signed towards him. He genuinely tried to engage everyone that came up in conversation and they would just get his autograph and leave. He ended up mostly just talking to me for the duration. He was an exceptionally nice guy who really wanted to connect with his fans. But, they just wanted the stuff signed or were too socially awkward to make conversation with someone kinda famous.

Btw, it was an amazing show. Would love to see them again.

I'm also still hoping to see him play with Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.
 
2022-08-08 10:07:13 PM  
Stephen Fry says the same thing. Some celebs like it, some don't. Just take a picture with the ones that do.
 
2022-08-08 10:10:19 PM  
This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.
 
2022-08-08 10:54:04 PM  
Yeah. Speaking of "transactions", I saw your concert last week, Flea, in Seattle.

Been a fan since Real Men Don't Kill Coyotes.

Show was a total "transaction". Little crowd interaction. Private "jam sessions" between the band members. Lame.

It was like the Peppers held a private concert for themselves and the audience watched.

On the other side.. I Went to the Green Day show and Billie Joe acted like we were their personal guests and the show was just for us.
 
2022-08-08 11:05:21 PM  
Well, anyone I'd want a picture with, I'd enjoy a legit five minute conversation much more.  But then again my sense of self-worth is not tied up with selfies I post or getting likes on instagram (or whatever they do there).

/my sense of self-worth is tied up in Fark smarts/funnies
 
2022-08-08 11:18:25 PM  
FFS I went to a class reunion a few months ago, and every 5 minutes someone wanted to take a big group shot.  After the first few it was just annoying.  How about we just bullshiat and laugh?
Now imagine being stopped and asked to take a picture 50 times a day, every day.  Fark that, fark you and your instaspace likes.  Jagoff.
 
2022-08-09 12:12:44 AM  

Bslim: Because the current useless generation can't just have simple human interaction, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it's gotta be an "expeeeeeeeeeeerience"

*jacking-off.gif*


yes, people have never pestered celebrities for autographs and pictures until those god damn gen z idiots got started with it all!


I'd absolutely farking loathe fame for this exact reason that you apparently owe the public. i hate having my picture taken and if random people were constantly asking for mine i'd flip my shiat, but it's cute how apparently flea is the bad guy for wanting his own life.
 
2022-08-09 2:34:00 AM  
A picture? That would be a waste of time.

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/hey same band. Close enough.
 
2022-08-09 2:51:01 AM  

ElPrimitivo: tangentially related CSB:

Einstürzende Neubauten played a club I managed. After the show, Blixa Bargeld sat for a meet and greet with whoever wanted to come say hello or get an autograph. I was his security for that. People would come up and just push whatever they wanted signed towards him. He genuinely tried to engage everyone that came up in conversation and they would just get his autograph and leave. He ended up mostly just talking to me for the duration. He was an exceptionally nice guy who really wanted to connect with his fans. But, they just wanted the stuff signed or were too socially awkward to make conversation with someone kinda famous.

Btw, it was an amazing show. Would love to see them again.

I'm also still hoping to see him play with Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.


"I don't know how to say it to you.."
"Just say it"
"Blixa Bargheld"
 
2022-08-09 2:56:22 AM  
To be fair Flea is very shy and quiet person

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2022-08-09 3:00:54 AM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.


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2022-08-09 4:11:03 AM  

LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

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Can you explain to me the humour in this?
 
2022-08-09 4:25:03 AM  

replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

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Can you explain to me the humour in this?


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2022-08-09 4:33:32 AM  

LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

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Can you explain to me the humour in this?

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So what is it you find funny about confronting women in public with creepshots taken without their consent? Does it give you a thrill?
 
2022-08-09 4:42:02 AM  

replacementcool: LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

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Can you explain to me the humour in this?

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So what is it you find funny about confronting women in public with creepshots taken without their consent? Does it give you a thrill?


Everyone should get off like that, it'sin the bible
 
2022-08-09 4:44:33 AM  

replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

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Can you explain to me the humour in this?


There isn't any. Very weird people get off on embarassing celebrities like that.
 
2022-08-09 4:46:28 AM  

LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

[Fark user image image 480x700]

Can you explain to me the humour in this?

[Fark user image image 480x700]

So what is it you find funny about confronting women in public with creepshots taken without their consent? Does it give you a thrill?

Everyone should get off like that, it'sin the bible


So you're just a gross creep then, gotcha
 
2022-08-09 5:02:31 AM  

replacementcool: LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

[Fark user image image 480x700]

Can you explain to me the humour in this?

[Fark user image image 480x700]

So what is it you find funny about confronting women in public with creepshots taken without their consent? Does it give you a thrill?

Everyone should get off like that, it'sin the bible

So you're just a gross creep then, gotcha


Yes
 
2022-08-09 7:07:31 AM  
All good I don't want the lens of my camera to crack
 
2022-08-09 7:31:22 AM  

Coder: Have never and I expect will never be famous, but I imagine if I was, and I had to make the choice of either spending a few seconds to make someone else's day, vs kinda sour their day by saying no, I'd like to think I'd do the nice thing. The fan is getting more out of it than the celebrity is putting in, that's a net win.

/shrug


I mean his whole point is that he's happy to spend that time he just doesn't want it to be a picture
 
2022-08-09 8:41:04 AM  

replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

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Can you explain to me the humour in this?


He wasn't with the Chili Peppers when they recorded that album.
 
2022-08-09 9:16:43 AM  

Jaesop: Coder: Have never and I expect will never be famous, but I imagine if I was, and I had to make the choice of either spending a few seconds to make someone else's day, vs kinda sour their day by saying no, I'd like to think I'd do the nice thing. The fan is getting more out of it than the celebrity is putting in, that's a net win.

/shrug

I mean his whole point is that he's happy to spend that time he just doesn't want it to be a picture


Sure, but I'm sure a lot of people would naturally end up asking for a picture while shooting the shiat, and for him to suddenly get cold would ruin the high spirits
 
2022-08-09 9:41:27 AM  

ReaverZ: Stephen Fry says the same thing. Some celebs like it, some don't. Just take a picture with the ones that do.


FiL was a professional athlete.  wifey got hip very early to the fans who are trying to get something ' I'm a big fan - you owe us!!!' and constantly having a camera/microphone stuck in your face.   i can definitely see where it would get tiresome.
 
2022-08-09 9:45:09 AM  

Lsherm: I understand his POV. It goes from being a moment where you're getting to know someone to being a "let me get something to remember this by." Like you meet people every day but you don't usually take selfies with them. That said, he should recognize he's more famous than your usual bear and put up with it because he's the high point of someone's day and they'd like proof they actually met him.


I get it, too. Do you want to actually talk to this guy, tell him you enjoy his music, or do you just want proof that you were in the same place at the same time?

Rick Reilly wrote a column about autograph seekers years ago, and wrote that pro golfers love that The Masters doesn't allow fans to ask golfers for autographs because it means they actually have conversations with the fans, instead of just having endless pieces of paper shoved at them.
 
2022-08-09 11:01:11 AM  

Coder: Sure, but I'm sure a lot of people would naturally end up asking for a picture while shooting the shiat, and for him to suddenly get cold would ruin the high spirits


"Kinda souring the day"
"Ruin the high spirits"

You are an emotionally-stunted codependent and that's not Flea's problem.
 
2022-08-09 11:15:45 AM  

emtwo: Coder: Sure, but I'm sure a lot of people would naturally end up asking for a picture while shooting the shiat, and for him to suddenly get cold would ruin the high spirits

"Kinda souring the day"
"Ruin the high spirits"

You are an emotionally-stunted codependent and that's not Flea's problem.


No, my point is it costs him nothing to choose the nice, make-someone-happier choice instead of the one that's going to come off as rude to a lot of people just trying to capture a nice moment. He doesn't have to become their best friend.
 
2022-08-09 11:45:42 AM  

replacementcool: LewDux: replacementcool: LewDux: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: This reminds me of the time I met John Frusciante and he got all weird when I asked him to sign my One Hot Minute CD.

[Fark user image image 480x700]

Can you explain to me the humour in this?

[Fark user image image 480x700]

So what is it you find funny about confronting women in public with creepshots taken without their consent? Does it give you a thrill?


Yeah, I mean WTF?  And is that Weinstein in the background? If so that's a terrible picture on multiple levels.
 
2022-08-09 11:46:05 AM  
Sure, 10 seconds to ask for/pose/take a pic isnt much to the 1 person asking for it but doing it 20, 40, 50 times a day EVERY TIME YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE and it is an actual imposition on living your life.

In a similar vein, my wife is a huge TOOL fan and as a result I have learned more than I wanted about Maynard and seen the band a few times. I maintain my opinion that he's an asshole but I have tempered that opinion by knowing that he's had to deal with TOOL fans every day of his life for 25 years and that would probably make anyone into an asshole who structures life around reducing interaction with fans.

Parasocial relationships are always unhealthy. Internet video's reliance on displaying a face talking to you like a videocall is ruining a genration's ability to know real relationships from fake ones inte ded to generate revenue.
 
2022-08-09 11:49:24 AM  

Coder: Sure, but I'm sure a lot of people would naturally end up asking for a picture while shooting the shiat, and for him to suddenly get cold would ruin the high spirits


My read on his comments is that he'd probably be fine with a picture request in that situation.  It's more the fans that approach with a picture in mind.
 
2022-08-09 11:54:27 AM  
No promises.

<continues the incantation>
 
2022-08-09 12:01:06 PM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: ReaverZ: Stephen Fry says the same thing. Some celebs like it, some don't. Just take a picture with the ones that do.

FiL was a professional athlete.  wifey got hip very early to the fans who are trying to get something ' I'm a big fan - you owe us!!!' and constantly having a camera/microphone stuck in your face.   i can definitely see where it would get tiresome.


Yeah, I remember working on the production of a celebrity golf outing many years ago.  While waiting at the tee box of one of the holes near the clubhouse, Marshall Faulk made a quick dash to the bathroom before they had to hit.  He was approached by a couple of middle-aged weirdos seeking autographs and he simply said, "can't right now guys," to which they angrily starting yelling shiat like "we pay your salary."  I watched him hesitate for a bit, looking like he wanted to push back, but then smartly just went on his way.  I imagine that shiat happens a lot.


I've never really understood the autograph thing when it comes to adults. My dad had a lot of run ins with notable people in his travels.  I don't think an autograph or picture would have made his telling of their interactions any more interesting.
 
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