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(Yahoo)   Police say turning up dead, naked, and covered in scratches are just side effects of doing drugs, case closed, quit wasting their time with inconvenient witnesses and evidence and other nonsense   (yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-08-08 3:51:36 PM  
Confirmation bias in policing is deadly
 
2022-08-08 6:30:57 PM  

Peki: Confirmation bias in policing is deadly


What's important is they closed the case and no cops got hurt
 
2022-08-08 6:33:27 PM  
Surprise!  He's not white.

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2022-08-08 6:33:53 PM  
The possibility of gross police investigative negligence is horrible. I couldn't help but laugh at this.

"My initial thought was 'Oh no, someone is getting attacked by a moose.' ..."

Things are different in Alaska.
 
2022-08-08 6:37:03 PM  
You mean do actual police work? Cops hate that, they would much rather pull tough guy bs on innocent minorities.
 
2022-08-08 6:37:29 PM  
Sounds like a very methy situation.
 
2022-08-08 6:37:30 PM  

foo monkey: Surprise!  He's not white.

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I've been to most states in the US, and Alaska seemed the most openly "I don't give a fark" racist. This coming from someone who lived in Tennessee for a few years
 
2022-08-08 6:39:29 PM  
One does not simply march into Buckland.
 
2022-08-08 6:41:54 PM  

Mega Steve: foo monkey: Surprise!  He's not white.

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I've been to most states in the US, and Alaska seemed the most openly "I don't give a fark" racist. This coming from someone who lived in Tennessee for a few years


Hawaii is not far behind.
 
2022-08-08 6:47:18 PM  
When someone OD's on meth, it's usually not worth the effort to ask how he got that way.

That said, it's "usually", not "always".  It sounds like there may be something squirrely going on here that calls for a little more than "Fine police work, Lou."
 
2022-08-08 6:47:38 PM  
There could be more or he just could be a meth addict or maybe both.
 
2022-08-08 6:49:47 PM  
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2022-08-08 6:52:40 PM  
I've read nothing but horror stories about police in the more rural parts of Alaska, I can't imagine the police in one of their biggest cities is a shining example of how a department should be run. It's probably just the top of the shiatpile.

Alaska seems to attract the kind of people who don't find Maine weird enough.
 
2022-08-08 6:52:50 PM  
Well, I see that fark has managed to screw up quoting and voting because of some new useless javacrap

Or maybe they've gone to requiring chrome as a browser

whatever, enjoy
 
2022-08-08 6:54:04 PM  
I'm not sure I'd do any differently than the cops.

The medical examiner has the cause of death as "acute ketoacidosis and bronchopneumonia due to acute toxic effects of methamphetamine".

So, meth overdose.  The symptoms of that according to WebMD are intensely hyper or aggressive behavior, paranoia, confusion, and trouble breathing.  It can lead to heart failure, kidney failure, and / or seizures.

The one witness says he heard (not saw) "he heard an aggressive voice - maybe two. He couldn't quite discern what was being said, but the voice was agitated.  He said he continued to listen for about 20 minutes."

Aggressive ranting for 20 minutes is not inconsistent with a lone guy overdosing.  Neither is being naked and scratched, away from where they were last seen.

What a coroner's report of overdoes and physical evidence of scratches IS inconsistent with is murder.  Unless someone forced him to take the meth I guess.
 
2022-08-08 6:54:56 PM  
I mean, it's true, and they're right; but that's no excuse for not investigating. Its not "natural causes" so they should at least check what's going on.
 
2022-08-08 6:59:27 PM  
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2022-08-08 7:09:58 PM  

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No, that's the guy going to jail for being part of Jan 6th.
 
2022-08-08 7:13:14 PM  
Starlight Tour victim:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/starlight-tours
 
2022-08-08 7:20:30 PM  
Naked, scratched up, screaming, at the bottom of a bluff, in the bushes, on a beach outside of a forest that's a few miles off a trail, in a city you are not familiar with is not a good way to go through life.

Got it.
 
2022-08-08 7:22:15 PM  
I don't have any insight or brilliant thoughts to share, but one time I saw Beluga whales in Cook Inlet while standing on that beach.

I'll see myself out now.
 
2022-08-08 7:22:21 PM  
Investigations are hard and boring.
 
2022-08-08 7:25:28 PM  
Always a good time for the classics.

Drive By Truckers - "Dead, Drunk and Naked"
Youtube 2sF3WdM7RnA
 
2022-08-08 7:29:58 PM  

LarryDan43: Investigations are hard and boring.


Wild fantasies and conspiracies, however, are much more entertaining. They did an investigation; they took witness statements and sent the body to the ME who did an exam.

The things keeping this story alive are a family that doesn't want to admit the man may have had a drug problem and a wanna be super sluth witness (plus a healthy skepticism of the police); not a reasonable suspicion of foul play.
 
2022-08-08 8:17:16 PM  
When meth is involved it's entirely possible for a person to have a loud violent argument with themselves.
 
2022-08-08 8:22:34 PM  
I hate when that happens.
 
2022-08-08 8:22:39 PM  
Chris Burrous, channel 5 news anchor, married father of 1 found OD in motel room while having a gay sex weekend hookup with meth.
The family couldn't believe it. No viewers could believe it. But the evidence was irrefutable.
The guy had a secret life. For years.
This guy probably did as well. But we don't know and if the family found out they'd vehemently deny it.
 
2022-08-08 8:24:12 PM  

TFerWannaBe: LarryDan43: Investigations are hard and boring.

Wild fantasies and conspiracies, however, are much more entertaining. They did an investigation; they took witness statements and sent the body to the ME who did an exam.

The things keeping this story alive are a family that doesn't want to admit the man may have had a drug problem and a wanna be super sluth witness (plus a healthy skepticism of the police); not a reasonable suspicion of foul play.


This right here.  If a certain member of my family turned up in this same way, I wouldn't bat an eye.  I have a kid with mental illness and addiction issues, and how the Alaska witness described the moments before, it sounds just like some of the episodes my kid has had.

Once the ME determined there was history of drug use, this became a closed loop.  Only if the ME could not find any other trace of drug use, would there be cause to keep digging.  I turn up dead, there's no long term drug traces in my system, that's suspicious.  My kid turns up dead, it's a foregone conclusion.  I'm gonna hate that my kid died so young and wasn't able to beat his problems, but I'm not going to waste the resources to keep hope alive.
 
2022-08-09 4:17:48 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Well, I see that fark has managed to screw up quoting


Really? How so?

Vlad_the_Inaner: Or maybe they've gone to requiring chrome as a browser


Nope, using firefox here

Vlad_the_Inaner: whatever, enjoy


Whatever, have a funny to show voting still works too.
 
2022-08-09 5:35:11 AM  
Me before reading the article: Slipshod investigation - must be a Native victim.

The article: hearing what he thought was a man lapse into long passages of what sounded to him like an Alaska Native language,

Called it.
 
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