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(Al Jazeera)   Brazil's jiujitsu world champion finally defeated by a practitioner of Gun Fu   (aljazeera.com) divider line
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2022-08-08 1:45:46 PM  
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2022-08-08 3:23:14 PM  

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Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time
 
2022-08-08 3:24:14 PM  
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2022-08-08 3:24:51 PM  
That's what happens when you bring a nothing to a gunfight.
 
2022-08-08 3:26:52 PM  
Maybe he should have tried an arm lock instead of a leg sweep.
 
2022-08-08 3:27:38 PM  

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2022-08-08 3:27:41 PM  
"He was approached in a bar by a loud drunk carrying a drink, and decided to grapple and shove the man's head into the floor for a period of time instead of calling security.  By the authority of his martial arts wisdom he declared the fight over, and seemed surprised when the other guy, a police officer, disagreed and shot him in the face instead."
 
2022-08-08 3:27:55 PM  
Best defense, no get shot
 
2022-08-08 3:28:30 PM  
There's the difference between tournament fighting and combatives.
 
2022-08-08 3:30:11 PM  

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I love that movie. Just don't think about the plot too hard.
 
2022-08-08 3:30:17 PM  
You never let your guard down.
 
2022-08-08 3:31:07 PM  
Shot by an off duty cop .. We all know how this ends ..
 
2022-08-08 3:32:17 PM  

deadsanta: "He was approached in a bar by a loud drunk carrying a drink, and decided to grapple and shove the man's head into the floor for a period of time instead of calling security.  By the authority of his martial arts wisdom he declared the fight over, and seemed surprised when the other guy, a police officer, disagreed and shot him in the face instead."


Well if he didn't dress that way he wouldn't have been asking for it.
 
2022-08-08 3:32:29 PM  

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Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch
 
2022-08-08 3:33:11 PM  
But what about all the times he went hands on and successfully avoided any further altercation?  I mean, the vast majority of us manage to not do so and somehow still avoid bar fights OR getting shot, but you know, I'm sure he had his reasons.
 
2022-08-08 3:34:08 PM  
He should have completed his training.

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2022-08-08 3:35:18 PM  

Another Government Employee: You never let your guard down.


PTSD FOREVER
 
2022-08-08 3:35:49 PM  

deadsanta: "He was approached in a bar by a loud drunk carrying a drink, and decided to grapple and shove the man's head into the floor for a period of time instead of calling security.  By the authority of his martial arts wisdom he declared the fight over, and seemed surprised when the other guy, a police officer, disagreed and shot him in the face instead."


So self-inflicted wound to the head. He assaulted a police officer and got shot
 
2022-08-08 3:36:06 PM  
Ah. So shot by a cop. I guess its the same everywhere.
 
2022-08-08 3:37:23 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch


Of all the Hollywood fighting things, I agree it's one of the most fun to watch.

Watching John Wick is up there too.  Iko Uwais in The Raid movies is another one I love to watch.
 
2022-08-08 3:37:57 PM  

anuran: deadsanta: "He was approached in a bar by a loud drunk carrying a drink, and decided to grapple and shove the man's head into the floor for a period of time instead of calling security.  By the authority of his martial arts wisdom he declared the fight over, and seemed surprised when the other guy, a police officer, disagreed and shot him in the face instead."

So self-inflicted wound to the head. He assaulted a police officer and got shot


Well to be fair in the US he'd get shot for appearing threatening, so...we really should stop arming thugs and asking them to uphold the law.
 
2022-08-08 3:41:42 PM  
That's a lot of champions.
 
2022-08-08 3:42:10 PM  
Sounds like a drunk cop picked a fight, lost, so he shot him.
 
2022-08-08 3:43:07 PM  

Wile_E_Canuck: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch

Of all the Hollywood fighting things, I agree it's one of the most fun to watch.

Watching John Wick is up there too.  Iko Uwais in The Raid movies is another one I love to watch.


The Raid is effing AWESOME.  If you like John Wick, you MUST see The Raid.

/ but not the second Raid, I heard it is way too long.
 
2022-08-08 3:43:23 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: DecemberNitro: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: NeoCortex42: [c.tenor.com image 498x212] [View Full Size image _x_]

Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

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Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch


It's simultaneously extremely dumb and kinda badass.
 
2022-08-08 3:45:36 PM  
Cops shoot the fark out of people in Brazil all the time. Summary execution. There was a point where the Government said fark it, and told people it was fine to just run over the rampant motorcycle thieves.
https://twitter.com/bradleymain17/status/1554463058424209408?s=21&t=-2WhdR_aTfrP3KxBtOMjQw
 
2022-08-08 3:48:42 PM  

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Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

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Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch

It's simultaneously extremely dumb and kinda badass.


^ - that covers it in one easy sentence
 
2022-08-08 3:49:47 PM  

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Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

They can be combined.[c.tenor.com image 640x360] [View Full Size image _x_]

Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch

It's simultaneously extremely dumb and kinda badass.

^ - that covers it in one easy sentence


For that matter when you get right down to it, a lot of badass shiat is in fact just dumb shiat you just got away with
 
2022-08-08 3:55:58 PM  
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2022-08-08 4:02:59 PM  
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2022-08-08 4:04:58 PM  
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2022-08-08 4:05:04 PM  

deadsanta: "He was approached in a bar by a loud drunk carrying a drink, and decided to grapple and shove the man's head into the floor for a period of time instead of calling security.  By the authority of his martial arts wisdom he declared the fight over, and seemed surprised when the other guy, a police officer, disagreed and shot him in the face instead."


What's that from?  Google just sends me to this very thread.
 
2022-08-08 4:06:50 PM  

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That one always makes me cringe to watch.  Not because it sucks, or that it can't be done or something, but just because without a sparring partner that knows what they're doing and how to roll with that throw, you'd very likely break their farking neck
 
2022-08-08 4:08:21 PM  

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Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

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or he could have just shot them from about 20 feet away, without the flip and waving his arms like he just dont care
 
2022-08-08 4:10:02 PM  

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Where does one find a Job Bob Briggs mask like that?
 
2022-08-08 4:10:29 PM  
I've been saying for years that martial arts are useless against anyone with a gun.  A kung fu master dodging bullets only happens on tv.
 
2022-08-08 4:10:32 PM  

the voice of raisin: DecemberNitro: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: NeoCortex42: [c.tenor.com image 498x212] [View Full Size image _x_]

Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

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or he could have just shot them from about 20 feet away, without the flip and waving his arms like he just dont care


Major loss of badass points there though - way too basic for cool
 
2022-08-08 4:12:00 PM  

OgreMagi: I've been saying for years that martial arts are useless against anyone with a gun.  A kung fu master dodging bullets only happens on tv.


If you start close there is a chance - just as there would be for a knife wielder or whatever pick your small fast close combat weapon.  If you don't, well.. pray real damn hard for a jam
 
2022-08-08 4:24:23 PM  

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That one always makes me cringe to watch.  Not because it sucks, or that it can't be done or something, but just because without a sparring partner that knows what they're doing and how to roll with that throw, you'd very likely break their farking neck


I was once made to spar a guy who was way bigger than me, and so I thought it would be funny to hop up and try that throw. What I didn't anticipate was that the other guy was so much bigger and stronger than me that even when I got my legs up there he didn't move, and so I just sort of spun around and ended up sitting on his shoulders. The instructor walked over and was like "WTF are you two idiots doing?" In retrospect, it probably looked like we were swing dancing.
 
2022-08-08 4:28:07 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: OgreMagi: I've been saying for years that martial arts are useless against anyone with a gun.  A kung fu master dodging bullets only happens on tv.

If you start close there is a chance - just as there would be for a knife wielder or whatever pick your small fast close combat weapon.  If you don't, well.. pray real damn hard for a jam


My son is a Martial Arts instructor. If they are within arms reach, he's got a pretty good chance of successfully disarming someone, but it is likely he'll take some damage. Anything beyond arm's reach, he's going to follow instructions.
 
2022-08-08 4:33:17 PM  

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That one always makes me cringe to watch.  Not because it sucks, or that it can't be done or something, but just because without a sparring partner that knows what they're doing and how to roll with that throw, you'd very likely break their farking neck

I was once made to spar a guy who was way bigger than me, and so I thought it would be funny to hop up and try that throw. What I didn't anticipate was that the other guy was so much bigger and stronger than me that even when I got my legs up there he didn't move, and so I just sort of spun around and ended up sitting on his shoulders. The instructor walked over and was like "WTF are you two idiots doing?" In retrospect, it probably looked like we were swing dancing.


Yep. All bets are off when the big dude just picks you up and you have zero leverage.
 
2022-08-08 4:35:45 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: DecemberNitro: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: NeoCortex42: [c.tenor.com image 498x212] [View Full Size image _x_]

Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

They can be combined.[c.tenor.com image 640x360] [View Full Size image _x_]

Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch


Yeah. Dumbest fighting style, conceptually, I can recall in a movie. Looks cool as shiat, but is so insanely stupid.
 
2022-08-08 4:37:31 PM  

ObscureNameHere: Wile_E_Canuck: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Heh gun kata is at the same time the most improbable in the real world shiat I've ever seen in my life, and the most weirdly mesmerizing.  It's totally amazing to watch

Of all the Hollywood fighting things, I agree it's one of the most fun to watch.

Watching John Wick is up there too.  Iko Uwais in The Raid movies is another one I love to watch.

The Raid is effing AWESOME.  If you like John Wick, you MUST see The Raid.

/ but not the second Raid, I heard it is way too long.


And doesn't depict a raid of any kind...

Dredd was basically just a remake of the raid, and was also pretty good.
 
2022-08-08 4:39:13 PM  
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2022-08-08 4:40:22 PM  
YouTube and TikTok have taught me that if you're within 21 feet, an unarmed individual a threat to someone carrying a firearm.  Have I been lied to?
 
2022-08-08 4:45:56 PM  

Another Government Employee: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: OgreMagi: I've been saying for years that martial arts are useless against anyone with a gun.  A kung fu master dodging bullets only happens on tv.

If you start close there is a chance - just as there would be for a knife wielder or whatever pick your small fast close combat weapon.  If you don't, well.. pray real damn hard for a jam

My son is a Martial Arts instructor. If they are within arms reach, he's got a pretty good chance of successfully disarming someone, but it is likely he'll take some damage. Anything beyond arm's reach, he's going to follow instructions.


I've done fairly extensive martial arts training. If someone points a gun at me, they can have my wallet.

I have disarmed a guy with a knife before. He got stabbed clean through the hand, which I still maintain was not intentional.
 
2022-08-08 4:50:14 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: YouTube and TikTok have taught me that if you're within 21 feet, an unarmed individual a threat to someone carrying a firearm.  Have I been lied to?


The 21-foot rule applies when an attacker is running at you with a knife out, you are armed with a pistol, and just coming to realize what's going on. In the time it takes you to think "what the fark?" and decide whether or not to draw and fire, you could be stabbed, mostly since this is due to reaction times and assumes the attacker has already decided to stab you.

/And I only know this because I researched it on Wikipedia as a plot point for a story I wrote
//The guy doesn't get stabbed but things end badly anyway
///I didn't say it was a GOOD story
 
2022-08-08 4:58:55 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: the voice of raisin: DecemberNitro: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: NeoCortex42: [c.tenor.com image 498x212] [View Full Size image _x_]

Smith and Wesson kung fu defeats any other form invariably, as long as there's a little distance.  Even when there isn't, it wins most of the time

They can be combined.[c.tenor.com image 640x360]

or he could have just shot them from about 20 feet away, without the flip and waving his arms like he just dont care

Major loss of badass points there though - way too basic for cool


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2022-08-08 5:06:14 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: Another Government Employee: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: OgreMagi: I've been saying for years that martial arts are useless against anyone with a gun.  A kung fu master dodging bullets only happens on tv.

If you start close there is a chance - just as there would be for a knife wielder or whatever pick your small fast close combat weapon.  If you don't, well.. pray real damn hard for a jam

My son is a Martial Arts instructor. If they are within arms reach, he's got a pretty good chance of successfully disarming someone, but it is likely he'll take some damage. Anything beyond arm's reach, he's going to follow instructions.

I've done fairly extensive martial arts training. If someone points a gun at me, they can have my wallet.

I have disarmed a guy with a knife before. He got stabbed clean through the hand, which I still maintain was not intentional.


Well yeah if you're even remotely sane that's exactly what you do, 'cause the odds are HUGE you're gonna get murdered to death if you try anything.  I just mean there's a chance, if they start close and they're just crazy-ass determined to get you to the point they DGAF.  Even crazy-ass determined ain't gonna help if they start a ways off
 
2022-08-08 5:16:09 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Gassy Snake: [Fark user image 370x351] [View Full Size image _x_]

That one always makes me cringe to watch.  Not because it sucks, or that it can't be done or something, but just because without a sparring partner that knows what they're doing and how to roll with that throw, you'd very likely break their farking neck

get absolutely wrecked as soon as both your feet left the ground.

All the Jackie Chan stuff looks great for movies, but if your attack plan requires 38 perfectly choreographed steps and complete cooperation of your target for balance and weight transfer points, you're going to end up on the ground trying to remember how to breathe by step 10.
 
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