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(YardBarker)   Braves pitcher just called the Mets "lucky"   (yardbarker.com) divider line
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411 clicks; posted to Sports » on 08 Aug 2022 at 8:08 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-08 9:03:52 AM  
he's not entirely wrong.   The Mets babip is third in the NL, behind only the Rockies and Dodgers, and sixth in MLB.   Any team batting .300+ on bip is lucky.
 
JJR
2022-08-08 9:27:00 AM  
I grew up in N.Y. But have been in Atlanta area for years now. I love the Mets but like the Braves a lot. The Mets put the ball in play and have been taking advantage of opponents mistakes. I think all these games the Braves have at home vs. Mets will tell the tale.
 
2022-08-08 9:35:59 AM  
seems like the refrain of the braves fan this year:  mets have been super lucky and it's only a matter of time until the natural lolmets nature reasserts itself and the braves achieve their rightful place at the top of the nl east

or, you know, maybe the mets actually have a good team and are coming back at the end of games instead of blowing them like they usually do
 
2022-08-08 9:50:40 AM  

Stud Gerbil: he's not entirely wrong.   The Mets babip is third in the NL, behind only the Rockies and Dodgers, and sixth in MLB.   Any team batting .300+ on bip is lucky.


problem with just looking at babip in a vacuum is that it ignores what the team makeups are.  shiatty and three true outcome teams are going to have bad babip because they are slow and hitting fly balls or don't give a crap and are just bad players

the mets have a lot of quick guys who hustle and force teams to make plays (nimmo, lindor, mcneil, marte).  those types of players always have higher babip because they can beat out a few hits instead of being out by 3 steps.  also the mets have been doing more of hitting away from shifts instead of into them and hoping the ball misses a fielder and then blaming the shift when it doesn't work out

sometimes you make your on luck
 
2022-08-08 10:02:01 AM  

Stud Gerbil: he's not entirely wrong.   The Mets babip is third in the NL, behind only the Rockies and Dodgers, and sixth in MLB.   Any team batting .300+ on bip is lucky.


Having watched them this season, I'll admit that some hits are lucky. That being said, the Mets grind pitchers down. Several of the Mets batters see 4+ pitches per plate appearance. Using yesterday as an example:

Through 5.2 innings DeGrom had 76 pitches and 12k's.
Through 3 innings Strider had 79 pitches, 5K's and 4ER's

Getting RISP is what wins games and the Mets are among the best at it, that's why they have 2 guys in the top 5 for RBI's this year (#2 Alonso - 95, #5 Lindor - 77). Also, it's still early, but the Mets did well with their trade deadline. Vogelbach and Naquin have fit right in.
 
2022-08-08 10:12:53 AM  
This man is going to get boo'd like John Rocker used to

I for one can't wait to hear it
 
2022-08-08 10:39:30 AM  
lucky to be playing the Braves?
 
2022-08-08 11:05:31 AM  
He's not entirely wrong. The Mets had some lucky bounces (one ball caught the lip of the grass and bounced over the third baseman, another hit third base and bounced over the third baseman), and CB Bucknor did his usual terrible umpiring.

But pouting about it is a bad look. Put balls in play and good things happen. Braves' defense was pretty bad all series, too.

/Braves managed 3 hits and 19 strikeouts yesterday. Hard to generate luck when you strike out 19 times.
 
2022-08-08 11:24:14 AM  
He's not wrong; the Mets got some breaks on both weak and strong contact over the weekend and that's the way it goes sometimes.  That and Bucknor's generous strike zone for deGrom - give an ace like him an extra 5" outside the zone and batters will start chasing.

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2022-08-08 11:30:47 AM  

little big man: He's not wrong; the Mets got some breaks on both weak and strong contact over the weekend and that's the way it goes sometimes.  That and Bucknor's generous strike zone for deGrom - give an ace like him an extra 5" outside the zone and batters will start chasing.

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The boxes don't tell the whole story, they basically show where the ball finished. However, the strike box is a 2D representation of a 3D plate, so it could very easily come across the plate and finish where it did for a strike for ball #2 there. That's one of the issues with TV broadcasts showing a rough zone, it's not possible to fully model it and display it unless they did it PiP. There is also no top-down camera for the plate either, so requires a ton of math to figure out the actual position, it's one of the reasons we haven't seen full on robot umps yet.
 
2022-08-08 11:41:46 AM  

little big man: He's not wrong; the Mets got some breaks on both weak and strong contact over the weekend and that's the way it goes sometimes.  That and Bucknor's generous strike zone for deGrom - give an ace like him an extra 5" outside the zone and batters will start chasing.

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There was plenty of Bucknor magic to go around:

https://mobile.twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1556650869336186881
 
2022-08-08 11:42:24 AM  

Dafatone: little big man: He's not wrong; the Mets got some breaks on both weak and strong contact over the weekend and that's the way it goes sometimes.  That and Bucknor's generous strike zone for deGrom - give an ace like him an extra 5" outside the zone and batters will start chasing.

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There was plenty of Bucknor magic to go around:

https://mobile.twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1556650869336186881


Note that run expectancy added is based on the game situation at the time of blown calls and isn't necessarily an indicator of which team got more blown calls.
 
2022-08-08 11:44:43 AM  

phimuskapsi: little big man: He's not wrong; the Mets got some breaks on both weak and strong contact over the weekend and that's the way it goes sometimes.  That and Bucknor's generous strike zone for deGrom - give an ace like him an extra 5" outside the zone and batters will start chasing.

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The boxes don't tell the whole story, they basically show where the ball finished. However, the strike box is a 2D representation of a 3D plate, so it could very easily come across the plate and finish where it did for a strike for ball #2 there. That's one of the issues with TV broadcasts showing a rough zone, it's not possible to fully model it and display it unless they did it PiP. There is also no top-down camera for the plate either, so requires a ton of math to figure out the actual position, it's one of the reasons we haven't seen full on robot umps yet.


there was one of those in the la/sd game last night on a walk to soto in the 9th.  a called ball looked like it clipped the bottom of the zone, then they showed the 3d zone and the intersection of zone and ball for it's whole flight was about 0.5 cm3 at the front bottom before it fell below and it made it look like a lot better call
 
2022-08-08 12:21:57 PM  

phimuskapsi: little big man: He's not wrong; the Mets got some breaks on both weak and strong contact over the weekend and that's the way it goes sometimes.  That and Bucknor's generous strike zone for deGrom - give an ace like him an extra 5" outside the zone and batters will start chasing.

[Fark user image 648x486]

The boxes don't tell the whole story, they basically show where the ball finished. However, the strike box is a 2D representation of a 3D plate, so it could very easily come across the plate and finish where it did for a strike for ball #2 there. That's one of the issues with TV broadcasts showing a rough zone, it's not possible to fully model it and display it unless they did it PiP. There is also no top-down camera for the plate either, so requires a ton of math to figure out the actual position, it's one of the reasons we haven't seen full on robot umps yet.


We found CB Bucknor's Fark handle.
 
2022-08-08 4:19:38 PM  
Said on YT and I'll say it here: de Grom told the Braves, "Here it is, hit it"...and they couldn't because the movement was way too good for them to track.
 
2022-08-08 4:24:42 PM  

Rwa2play: Said on YT and I'll say it here: de Grom told the Braves, "Here it is, hit it"...and they couldn't because the movement was way too good for them to track.


Guy is unbelievable.  He'll look good in a Phillies uniform next year

;-)
 
2022-08-08 5:20:06 PM  

johnny_vegas: Rwa2play: Said on YT and I'll say it here: de Grom told the Braves, "Here it is, hit it"...and they couldn't because the movement was way too good for them to track.

Guy is unbelievable.  He'll look good in a Phillies uniform next year

;-)


LOL. Seen a few Braves fans suggest this as well. DeGrom is going nowhere, the Mets aren't a poor team anymore, and if he stays healthy through the season, there is no reason to expect that they don't back a Brinks truck up to his house.
 
2022-08-08 9:15:00 PM  

johnny_vegas: Rwa2play: Said on YT and I'll say it here: de Grom told the Braves, "Here it is, hit it"...and they couldn't because the movement was way too good for them to track.

Guy is unbelievable.  He'll look good in a Phillies uniform next year

;-)

He'll look good in a

on the Phillies uniform injured list next year

ftfy.
 
2022-08-08 9:17:29 PM  
farking formatting, I should know better by now.
 
2022-08-08 11:36:56 PM  

virulent_loser: johnny_vegas: Rwa2play: Said on YT and I'll say it here: de Grom told the Braves, "Here it is, hit it"...and they couldn't because the movement was way too good for them to track.

Guy is unbelievable.  He'll look good in a Phillies uniform next year

;-)

He'll look good in aon the Phillies uniform injured list next year

ftfy.


Boy, you're not wrong
 
2022-08-09 2:27:24 AM  

johnny_vegas: virulent_loser: johnny_vegas: Rwa2play: Said on YT and I'll say it here: de Grom told the Braves, "Here it is, hit it"...and they couldn't because the movement was way too good for them to track.

Guy is unbelievable.  He'll look good in a Phillies uniform next year

;-)

He'll look good in aon the Phillies uniform injured list next year

ftfy.

Boy, you're not wrong


girl. (:
 
2022-08-09 3:33:03 AM  
This one is for Thank you black Jesus

Go Dodgers
 
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