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(Fox Business)   Eli Lilly (boooo) decides Indiana (booo) has just gotten too rightwing crazy to expand their operation. "We will be forced to plan for more employment growth outside our home state." With bonus interview with undead robot Arkansas AG   (foxbusiness.com) divider line
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2022-08-08 2:36:45 AM  
It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.
 
2022-08-08 6:29:15 AM  

Jesus McSordid: It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.


The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole.  If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change.  They don't care.
 
2022-08-08 6:47:36 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole. If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change. They don't care.


Indeed.  If the state supported torturing random citizens for televised entertainment, they'd still happily set up shop there if they could turn a profit and the board wasn't in danger of being selected for the torture.

What is insane is that these are human beings making these decisions and even if they had any empathy to start with, they walk into a boardroom and suddenly they all agree to suspend it and plan the most efficient extraction of cash from the economy they can get away with, without consideration of any other factors.  And the law then generally treats this as if some magical entity called 'the company' made the decisions and not those individuals, so there's no significant risk of personal loss when they chose to do something evil.
 
2022-08-08 6:51:04 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jesus McSordid: It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.

The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole.  If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change.  They don't care.


The corporations aren't doing these things to be 'good'.  If a state removes a fundemental human right from half of their population they look like shiat.  Hard to attract educated people who are willing to subject themselves or their families to a theocracy.
 
2022-08-08 6:52:06 AM  
Carrier Corp. Moving 1,400 Jobs to Mexico
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For old times' sake.
 
2022-08-08 6:59:23 AM  
I read the comments, Ray.  Those people are so disconnected from reality it just isn't funny.  I'm guessing none of them own a business and understand how staffing works.
 
2022-08-08 7:01:16 AM  

Mike_1962: Marcus Aurelius: Jesus McSordid: It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.

The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole.  If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change.  They don't care.

The corporations aren't doing these things to be 'good'.  If a state removes a fundemental human right from half of their population they look like shiat.  Hard to attract educated people who are willing to subject themselves or their families to a theocracy.


It's a huge HR problem going forward.

Indiana Chamber of Commerce, atm...

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2022-08-08 7:04:48 AM  

Jesus McSordid: It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.



"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people," said the man. "You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides."
He waved his thin hand toward the city and walked over to the window.
"A great rolling sea of evil," he said, almost proprietorially. "Shallower in some places, of course, but deeper, oh, so much deeper in others. But people like you put together little rafts of rules and vaguely good intentions and say, this is the opposite, this will triumph in the end. Amazing!" He slapped Vimes good-naturedly on the back."Down there," he said, "are people who will follow any dragon, worship any god, ignore any iniquity. All out of a kind of humdrum, everyday badness. Not the really high, creative loathesomeness of the great sinners, but a sort of mass-produced darkness of the soul. Sin, you might say, without a trace of originality. They accept evil not because they say yes, but because they don't say no."

--Terry Pratchett's Guards! Guards!

Not that I AGREE with Vetinari that there are ONLY bad people, but very often, there are... bad people on opposite sides, with some of these conflicts.
 
2022-08-08 7:04:51 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Marcus Aurelius: The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole. If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change. They don't care.

Indeed.  If the state supported torturing random citizens for televised entertainment, they'd still happily set up shop there if they could turn a profit and the board wasn't in danger of being selected for the torture.

What is insane is that these are human beings making these decisions and even if they had any empathy to start with, they walk into a boardroom and suddenly they all agree to suspend it and plan the most efficient extraction of cash from the economy they can get away with, without consideration of any other factors.  And the law then generally treats this as if some magical entity called 'the company' made the decisions and not those individuals, so there's no significant risk of personal loss when they chose to do something evil.


You need to take a business law class.
 
2022-08-08 7:17:25 AM  
You mean a massive pharmaceutical company isn't just going to knuckle under when one of its most profitable products is being restricted?
 
2022-08-08 7:21:37 AM  
It's a start. I'm really hoping Gen Con pulls out, but they're contracted through '26.
 
2022-08-08 7:24:13 AM  
You just know that Stepford Karen was vacuumed out on the regular in college.
 
2022-08-08 7:24:47 AM  
Woke communist corporations, obvi.
 
2022-08-08 7:27:46 AM  
This is all very similar to how things played out a few years ago with Indiana Governor Mike Pence's Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). The bill would have essential legalized discrimination against same sex couples.
Indiana's Gen Con was among the first to object, followed by Lilly and other large Indiana corporations.
The bill was soon gutted, and Pence's political career in Indiana was over. Unfortunately, some idiot picked Pence as his presidential running mate, and our media or the Democrats never mentioned RFRA during the campaign.
 
2022-08-08 7:37:15 AM  
Plan B and mifepristone should be protected as the 28th amendment to the US Constitution.

#EndOcerpopulationDenialism
 
2022-08-08 7:39:11 AM  

Mike_1962: Marcus Aurelius: Jesus McSordid: It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.

The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole.  If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change.  They don't care.

The corporations aren't doing these things to be 'good'.  If a state removes a fundemental human right from half of their population they look like shiat.  Hard to attract educated people who are willing to subject themselves or their families to a theocracy.


The motivation doesn't matter. If good is being done, celebrate it. Especially if it's being done by normality shiatty people.
 
2022-08-08 7:40:30 AM  
We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere
 
2022-08-08 7:47:41 AM  
I hope all the pro life folks start boycotting their diabetes and cancer meds because these  "woke" executives won't destroy their bottom line for their wacky beliefs. Nothing more noble than dying for your cause right? I mean just ask isis.
 
2022-08-08 7:53:01 AM  
Also Cummins coming out against this has to sting. Lol. Idiots gonna boycott their own truck?
 
2022-08-08 7:58:31 AM  
I assume they'll go to Texas or Florida or somewhere else with even lower taxes and less of a social safety net than than indiana. Never assume altruism where there is a profit motive.
 
2022-08-08 8:04:53 AM  

nickolas66: This is all very similar to how things played out a few years ago with Indiana Governor Mike Pence's Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). The bill would have essential legalized discrimination against same sex couples.
Indiana's Gen Con was among the first to object, followed by Lilly and other large Indiana corporations.
The bill was soon gutted, and Pence's political career in Indiana was over. Unfortunately, some idiot picked Pence as his presidential running mate, and our media or the Democrats never mentioned RFRA during the campaign.


In general ppl seems to have a short memory for how terrible Pence is, like the time he gave a bunch of people HIV.  Maybe his overwhelming white blandness camouflages his black heart?
 
2022-08-08 8:09:21 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Indeed.  If the state supported torturing random citizens for televised entertainment, they'd still happily set up shop there if they could turn a profit and the board wasn't in danger of being selected for the torture.


Does CTE count as torture?

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2022-08-08 8:15:11 AM  

Charletron: nickolas66: This is all very similar to how things played out a few years ago with Indiana Governor Mike Pence's Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). The bill would have essential legalized discrimination against same sex couples.
Indiana's Gen Con was among the first to object, followed by Lilly and other large Indiana corporations.
The bill was soon gutted, and Pence's political career in Indiana was over. Unfortunately, some idiot picked Pence as his presidential running mate, and our media or the Democrats never mentioned RFRA during the campaign.

In general ppl seems to have a short memory for how terrible Pence is, like the time he gave a bunch of people HIV.  Maybe his overwhelming white blandness camouflages his black heart?


The only reason Pence didn't follow trump's command on J6 was because he knew he's be the one taking responsibility when it failed, and if there's one thing people like Pence don't do, it's take responsibility.
 
2022-08-08 8:17:35 AM  
Big Pharma recognizes that people have a breaking point, which is by itself surprising.
 
2022-08-08 8:20:42 AM  
Lilly isn't taking a principled stand

Businesses don't really take principled stands

/No, not even your favorite small business who sent out a letter to all customers past and present like "f*ck this president and if you disagree don't even buy my products, I don't want your money" back in 2018.
 
2022-08-08 8:21:17 AM  

ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere


But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.
 
2022-08-08 8:23:10 AM  

ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere


All true, but the rest of us are feeling the effects of #6 since the stupidest states have just as much representation in the Senate as the rest, and united have disproportionate influence when it comes to selecting the president. We're all going to FO as a result of their FA.
 
2022-08-08 8:23:21 AM  
Move your operations to the PA/NJ area

Lord knows Merck let go the equivalent of an entire company and I am sure they would love to see you move here
 
2022-08-08 8:26:58 AM  
It's f*cking disgusting how much I miss the "heyyy man, you're f*ckin with my profit margins here" republicans running the republican party.
 
2022-08-08 8:29:02 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jesus McSordid: It confused me when companies I want to hate do good things, but this time I'm just going to celebrate the good in people. Thanks, Eli Lily.

The corporations can't attract talent to a God forsaken shiat hole.  If they really cared they would stop funding the GOP and then fight for change.  They don't care.


With Citizens United on the books they don't have to care.
 
2022-08-08 8:32:33 AM  
Watch for Cummins to move out next.
 
2022-08-08 8:36:54 AM  

CheatCommando: ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere

But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.


Don't top level recruit quarterbacks usually come from red state hellholes?  I honestly don't follow that sort of thing closely, but it seems like you usually hear about players coming from the south, Texas, the corn states, etc.  I guess we did have some players from MA, NJ, CA, but we also weren't a football school the same way places like Notre Dame are.
 
2022-08-08 8:39:17 AM  
The metro areas in Indiana with the highest standards of living are university towns - South Bend, Lafayette, and Bloomington. Indiana's drove to be "business friendly" (read: impractically low taxes on corporate parasites, right-to-work laws) added to the conservative drive to throttle higher education and create an ignorant, malleable populace have created an environment where the only people with any sense are getting a degree and getting the hell out of the state.
 
2022-08-08 8:44:32 AM  

A snake wearing a sweater: I hope all the pro life folks start boycotting their diabetes and cancer meds because these  "woke" executives won't destroy their bottom line for their wacky beliefs. Nothing more noble than dying for your cause right? I mean just ask isis.


Every single one of the drugs was tested on a fetal cell line derived from an aborted fetus. That was their stated reason for refusing the Covid vaccine. Stick to your morals and die, MAGAt!
 
2022-08-08 8:46:38 AM  
If I had the money and the motivation (and the knowledge and a bunch of other things) I'd open a mega-multi-abortionplex in Danville, IL.  It's the first major inhabited settlement on this side of the border from Indiana and is on I-74, so it's a direct shot from Indianapolis.  And I'd have a pancake house attached - because those women will be hungry and, c'mon, who doesn't like pancakes.  I'd call it the Eric Holcomb Memorial Vac-'n'-Stack.

/ Abortions While U Wait!
// Drive-Thru Lanes Available
/// Loyalty Card Program - Your Tenth Abortion is Free!
 
2022-08-08 8:48:26 AM  

New Rising Sun: CheatCommando: ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere

But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.

Don't top level recruit quarterbacks usually come from red state hellholes?  I honestly don't follow that sort of thing closely, but it seems like you usually hear about players coming from the south, Texas, the corn states, etc.  I guess we did have some players from MA, NJ, CA, but we also weren't a football school the same way places like Notre Dame are.


Many do, but not all of them. The (debatably) greatest quarterback in the history of the Detroit Lions, Dan Orlovsky, is a native of my home state of Connecticut (where he also played in college).
 
2022-08-08 8:49:33 AM  

blasterz: The metro areas in Indiana with the highest standards of living are university towns - South Bend, Lafayette, and Bloomington. Indiana's drove to be "business friendly" (read: impractically low taxes on corporate parasites, right-to-work laws) added to the conservative drive to throttle higher education and create an ignorant, malleable populace have created an environment where the only people with any sense are getting a degree and getting the hell out of the state.


CSB: I got my degree in Indiana and got the hell out of there. (I grew up there too (in a blue area) and the low cost of living was definitely appealing but I ain't going back except for Thanksgiving.
 
2022-08-08 8:53:12 AM  
Sadly - Find Out on this Economic fark Around the GOP seems intent on charging ahead on...will be so slow as the really good jobs migrate to places that don't choke off basic education in the early stages so your only talent pool is a class of morons who, on their good days, can correctly use 'their, there, and they're'.

And by that time, the cult mentality is so entrenched to 'blame other things you are told than the thing that is actually happening, frog in boiling pot that is the GOP base' mentality they won't understand THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT YOU WANTED!  Would have helped if you actually thought about things like 'domino effect' before you just jumped all in on the 'TEAM AMERICA, fark YEAH!'

See - here's the breakdown:  You keep people really, REALLY stupid - so when they are out, working their minimum wage jobs because funny how a high school edumacation don't go as far as it used to in post-school wage earning, but the giant TV Walmart has made affordable shoves aspirations of a life their education can NEVER give them.  But ''Murca! - fark yeah!' runs through your veins, so they sit there, perplexed how they can work full time, not have the same retirement their parents had. Pension?  Hunh?

Their limited education prevents things like 'evaluating cause and effect' and 'intellectual curiosity' - things that take work.  Things that may require accepting answers you don't really like - but can figure out a way to at least work with, the plan for something a little more workable - yeah, poorly educated don't do that.  Their bare-minimum learning - with people who came up through that same education system - isn't really helpful for real-world, complex problem solving.

Big corporations like problem solvers - need that skill every day on every level.  Big Corporations need people who have a drive - furthering education REALLY helps demonstrate an inherent drive for 'more' - which, ultimately, corporations want in their products or service - so employees who have a demonstrated focus on being able to set, and achieve, a long-term goal possess an inherent skillset employers find attractive.

Big companies also like to hire foreign workers for a variety of reasons:  They have a different approach to work, different-but-similar education.  They bring a different mindset.  Foreign workers are still stubbornly attracted to the PR job we did 30 years and before for a few hundred years about how AWESOME America is and we LOVE different folks.  Today's GOP faithful have been expertly taught to fear the foreigner - because once they see how 'shiathole countries' actually educate their people...well we can't have people figuring out just how much our education system pales in comparison to other 'less star-spangled-awesome' countries, now can we!  So hate the foreigner and tamp down immigration to keep people from understanding how close we are to having a population that the global economy is going to leave behind as a serious competitor.

Big companies also like to set up shop in places where crime is low, since a solid social infrastructure and'safety net' for when people, who all will face something inevitably, that may require temporary/perm help (through circumstance or occasional dumbassery we all fall prey to.).  Helps to know you aren't staking a claim in a place that may get burned down at the drop of a hat.

You are also going to be driving out people in your area - who are sick of getting slow-walked to Authoritarianism, or who enjoy diversions like Safe Parks, Streets that won't crack my steering column if I have to drive over year old potholes, or a Police Force that doesn't beat up not-white folks because it's Tuesday Twofer Days.  The people who, at least had a shot because they understood the culture so MAYBE could have talked sense to you in a way you understood - yeah, you drove those people out.  They loved you and all, but every person - even the smart ones - reach a level of 'I'm Audi 5000' with regressive/stupid bullshiat and so driving off those who maybe could explain it in a way your culture microcam could understand is gone as well.

Today's GOP base - yeah, they don't do that - ever.  At All.  They have been so well-trained to focus on the person who actually isn't the cause of their problem but has just enough melanin to fit the need to keep the focus off themselves and falling for bullshiat because they are too stupid to think passed two weeks ahead, or how those trickle downs Father Reagan promised will be dropping ANY day now or how no one is actually stopping them from worshiping Caucasian Mediterranean Jesus so where is this 'war' on Christianity really isn't happening.  We literally have pockets of GOP faithful who live by the credo 'Pay No Attention to That Man Behind the Curtain!'

They have been trained to ignore any cause and effect so well that by the time the true end result of their GOtoPia happens and it's just factory work and convenience stores they have no means or understanding to claw their way out.

Big companies forecast stuff like societal and economic factors - and if they are already making decisions like this - trust me, they ran the numbers and GOP Deep Red states will not be getting those 'breaking ground with a shovel' photo ops any time soon.
 
2022-08-08 8:54:35 AM  
Oh fark. Indiana's always been a conservative state, but money and the economy always trumped ideology in the legislature. Lilly and a couple of the other major employers were able to keep the truly awful stuff from passing due to the concern stated here. They are why the it's ok to discriminate against gay people bill didn't pass during the Pence administration.

If the abortion bill passed despite Lilly's objection, we are well and truly farked in this state. The ideologs have nothing holding them back, and flat out terrifying stuff will be coming out of the legislature next year.
 
2022-08-08 8:56:29 AM  

CheatCommando: ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere

But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.


Indiana football sucks, Purdue is mediocre, and no Notre Dame recruit is leaving for politics.

If that was the case, USC/UCLA, Illinois, Syracuse, Maryland, and Boston College would be perennial top 10 teams and Alabama, LSU, and even Ohio State would be crap.
 
2022-08-08 9:01:56 AM  

JAGChem82: CheatCommando: ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere

But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.

Indiana football sucks, Purdue is mediocre, and no Notre Dame recruit is leaving for politics.

If that was the case, USC/UCLA, Illinois, Syracuse, Maryland, and Boston College would be perennial top 10 teams and Alabama, LSU, and even Ohio State would be crap.


I know a LOT of MU fans who are worried if the KS vote last week will tip the scales on any recruiting wars they have with KU or K State - MU/KU match ups will get REAL ugly if top players think KS being friendlier to avoid a Baby Mama Situation gives them a reason to start chanting 'Rock Chock Jayhawk' a little louder than 'Go, Tigers.'
 
2022-08-08 9:04:43 AM  

BeatrixK: JAGChem82: CheatCommando: ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere

But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.

Indiana football sucks, Purdue is mediocre, and no Notre Dame recruit is leaving for politics.

If that was the case, USC/UCLA, Illinois, Syracuse, Maryland, and Boston College would be perennial top 10 teams and Alabama, LSU, and even Ohio State would be crap.

I know a LOT of MU fans who are worried if the KS vote last week will tip the scales on any recruiting wars they have with KU or K State - MU/KU match ups will get REAL ugly if top players think KS being friendlier to avoid a Baby Mama Situation gives them a reason to start chanting 'Rock Chock Jayhawk' a little louder than 'Go, Tigers.'


Eh, these schools will just create an unofficial abortion fund for their players in those cases to send their trouble to a different state to get it handled.
 
2022-08-08 9:06:35 AM  
If these companies were so concerned, they should've said something BEFORE the law was passed and not after.

Michigan is staying blue and an engine company like Cummins would be welcomed with open arms to the motor capital of the world.
 
2022-08-08 9:13:13 AM  
Indiana, man. Ugh. It's a big middle finger extending from the south.

Four more years till I get vested in the teachers retirement program here and I am out.
 
2022-08-08 9:14:35 AM  
And, even though I'm liberal as heck (and gay), I love the outdoors and living in the country. My part of Indiana is particularly derpy.

/fortunately Bloomington is just over an hour away.
 
2022-08-08 9:30:09 AM  
How will you run your company in a red state when ignorant yahoos are the only people who will want to live there?
 
2022-08-08 9:39:51 AM  

JAGChem82: CheatCommando: ansius: We're getting into the FO phase of red state FA.

1. companies leaving because they can't attract talent to work there
2. doctors refusing to work there
3. nurses leaving because they are sick of dealing with anti-healthcare nutters
4. teachers voting with their feet
5. people dying of diseases of despair (obesity, drink, opiates)
6. brain drain as the talented and ambitious kids move elsewhere

But it won't really hit them until that top level recruit quarterback goes to a blue state because he's not going to spend any time in a red state hellhole playing football. Then they might wake up. For a little while.

Indiana football sucks, Purdue is mediocre, and no Notre Dame recruit is leaving for politics.

If that was the case, USC/UCLA, Illinois, Syracuse, Maryland, and Boston College would be perennial top 10 teams and Alabama, LSU, and even Ohio State would be crap.


Indiana doesn't really care about football that much any way, they're a basketball state.
 
2022-08-08 9:52:17 AM  

Alaskan Yoda: And, even though I'm liberal as heck (and gay), I love the outdoors and living in the country. My part of Indiana is particularly derpy.

/fortunately Bloomington is just over an hour away.


My in-laws live in Bloomington and it's always fun to spend time in that town. The campus is beautiful and it has a cool college-town vibe.

The hour-long drive from the Indianapolis airport TO Bloomington is frickin' depressing to borderline scary.
 
2022-08-08 10:05:11 AM  

Arachnophobe: It's a start. I'm really hoping Gen Con pulls out, but they're contracted through '26.


Does their contract stipulate that they can't do anything anywhere else? I am betting there's a way to break that contract.
 
2022-08-08 10:09:52 AM  
It's just weird watching these companies go all Pikachu-face when Republican-led states do awful things. Look, corporations--you know they're evil. We know they're evil. We've all known this a long time. You can't pretend to be shocked. You've been happy to do business with them for decades--until now, now that it's about to affect your profits.
 
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