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(AP News)   Florida prosecutor "fired" by DeSantis will fight to get his job back. Something about nullifying the will of the voters who elected him   (apnews.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Pregnancy, Criminal law, Abortion, Crime, Andrew Warren, Gov. Ron DeSantis, Florida prosecutor, Hillsborough County  
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2022-08-07 11:25:02 PM  
Too bad DeSantis wasn't aborted
 
2022-08-07 11:31:03 PM  
So when some one refuses to fill a script for religious reasons they're taking a stand and can't be fired, but when someone else does it they need to be removed?
 
2022-08-07 11:31:52 PM  

Qwurky1: Too bad DeSantis wasn't aborted


Some one photoshop D-bag-santis into this:
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2022-08-07 11:33:26 PM  
I don't see anyway he can do this but then again, Republicans love authoritarianism and hate democracy.
 
2022-08-07 11:35:40 PM  
"I don't think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you're deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn't be enforced," said the governor.

I'm willing to bet his opinion on mask and distancing mandates and vaccine requirements were slightly different.
 
2022-08-07 11:40:37 PM  

Bugerz: "I don't think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you're deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn't be enforced," said the governor.

I'm willing to bet his opinion on mask and distancing mandates and vaccine requirements were slightly different.


Oddly enough, they decided just that during the election. Idiot.
 
2022-08-07 11:41:44 PM  
Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.
 
2022-08-07 11:42:59 PM  

Bugerz: "I don't think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you're deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn't be enforced," said the governor.

I'm willing to bet his opinion on mask and distancing mandates and vaccine requirements were slightly different.


And the views of people in this county are probably different from his. That's why they voted for this attorney to represent them.

It's also a good reminder to pay attention to down ballot races. Attorneys and judges can make decisions about which laws to enforce and who to prosecute. Remember that in November and choose someone who represents your views on enforcing things like abortions and bank robberies and paying teenage girls to cross state lines for sexual purposes. These are local officials who are making decisions about the crime enforcement in your local community.
 
2022-08-07 11:45:35 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: I don't see anyway he can do this but then again, Republicans love authoritarianism and hate democracy.


I think the Florida constitution somehow allows it?
 
2022-08-07 11:48:25 PM  

Dafatone: Peter von Nostrand: I don't see anyway he can do this but then again, Republicans love authoritarianism and hate democracy.

I think the Florida constitution somehow allows it?


I keep forgetting the state.
 
2022-08-07 11:53:49 PM  

thorpe: Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.


The only reason it's legal is a provision in the Florida constitution that allows the governor to suspend any elected official that isn't subject to being impeached, and apparently he's not subject to impeachment.
 
2022-08-08 12:24:53 AM  

Dafatone: Peter von Nostrand: I don't see anyway he can do this but then again, Republicans love authoritarianism and hate democracy.

I think the Florida constitution somehow allows it?


Arguably, which is why this will go to court.

It's allowed in language that is quite vague and very open to interpretation.
 
2022-08-08 12:29:22 AM  
So it turns out you can just fire them... if they're a Democrat.
 
2022-08-08 12:38:31 AM  

Fukuzawa: Dafatone: Peter von Nostrand: I don't see anyway he can do this but then again, Republicans love authoritarianism and hate democracy.

I think the Florida constitution somehow allows it?

Arguably, which is why this will go to court.

It's allowed in language that is quite vague and very open to interpretation.


I believe it goes to the state Senate, not a court.  The Senate will then either remove or reinstate the prosecutor.
 
2022-08-08 1:46:16 AM  

thorpe: Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.


The Florida constitution explicitly grants the governor the power to fire officials for "neglect of duty," making it legal if the official is indeed neglecting his duty, which he is.
 
2022-08-08 1:47:45 AM  

killershark: Bugerz: "I don't think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you're deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn't be enforced," said the governor.

I'm willing to bet his opinion on mask and distancing mandates and vaccine requirements were slightly different.

And the views of people in this county are probably different from his. That's why they voted for this attorney to represent them.

It's also a good reminder to pay attention to down ballot races. Attorneys and judges can make decisions about which laws to enforce and who to prosecute. Remember that in November and choose someone who represents your views on enforcing things like abortions and bank robberies and paying teenage girls to cross state lines for sexual purposes. These are local officials who are making decisions about the crime enforcement in your local community.


That reminds me. When I get home Wednesday, I need to sit down with my mail in ballot and deep dive the various judges we vote on in Florida.

And I still want to know what the fark is up with our primary stuff. My mail in ballot has none of the district based stuff on it. I know the redistricting has been a hot mess... But when do I get to pick who's on the general ballot?
 
2022-08-08 1:51:40 AM  
De Santis will probably welcome a legal challenge. Part of the reason he did the firing is he knows the public is concerned by rapidly-rising crime rates, and this signals his intention to get tough. A legal challenge will keep it in the public eye for months, which will only help.
 
2022-08-08 2:34:28 AM  

jjorsett: thorpe: Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.

The Florida constitution explicitly grants the governor the power to fire officials for "neglect of duty," making it legal if the official is indeed neglecting his duty, which he is.


Is he?  No abortion case has come before him, so how can anyone say he is neglecting anything?  Or is Desantis merely firing the guy for his speech. . .which would be wildly unconstitutional.
 
2022-08-08 2:57:15 AM  
Why isn't he also removing those people who have been elected Sheriff who have flat out refused to enforce gun laws?

Oh yea, guns have more rights than women. I forgot.
 
2022-08-08 3:39:13 AM  

jjorsett: thorpe: Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.

The Florida constitution explicitly grants the governor the power to fire officials for "neglect of duty," making it legal if the official is indeed neglecting his duty, which he is.


It's not even a law yet. He can't neglect to enforce a law that isn't even a law yet. He has signed on with many others stating that they won't prosecute these hypothetical future cases.
That's still covered by the 1st amendment. The Governor is punishing him for exercising his right to free speech.
 
2022-08-08 5:34:09 AM  
Just waiting for something racist or xenophobic to make the airwaves, where DeSantis will say that those being racist and xenophobic are protected from consequence - even in the private realm - because of the First Amendment without a hint of irony.

/the way things are going, Alabama will become more progressive than Florida
 
2022-08-08 5:51:41 AM  

jjorsett: thorpe: Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.

The Florida constitution explicitly grants the governor the power to fire officials for "neglect of duty," making it legal if the official is indeed neglecting his duty, which he is.


Of course the guy hasn't actually not prosecuted anything yet. Just maybe, possibly, theoretically won't dumbass thing, but that's all it takes in Florida for the governor to come after someone apparently.
 
2022-08-08 5:59:52 AM  
He won't.  As a lawyer he should know, if you don't follow the law you can be fired
 
2022-08-08 6:02:52 AM  

AnotherAussiefarker: So when some one refuses to fill a script for religious reasons they're taking a stand and can't be fired, but when someone else does it they need to be removed?


Yes.  Religion is protected by the constitution

The constitution doesn't protect you if the law hurts your fee fees
 
2022-08-08 6:06:16 AM  

Bugerz: "I don't think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you're deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn't be enforced," said the governor.

I'm willing to bet his opinion on mask and distancing mandates and vaccine requirements were slightly different.


Covid still exists.  Do you wear a mask all the time right now in public?  (You don't)

GTFO
 
2022-08-08 7:42:23 AM  

jjorsett: thorpe: Let's pretend this firing is legal for a minute. Nothing prevents DeSantis from "firing" any elected official in Florida.

That's why the firing is not legal.

The Florida constitution explicitly grants the governor the power to fire officials for "neglect of duty," making it legal if the official is indeed neglecting his duty, which he is.


Which doesn't apply here. The official was fired for saying words.
 
2022-08-08 7:46:13 AM  
So the governor has the power to suspend by the constitution but:

A. There's no actual neglect of duty yet. He's said he won't prosecute but there hasn't been anyone arrested yet so there's no evidence that he has declined to actually do so
B. The court will need to define neglect of duty. Prosecutorial discretion has been a thing for the entirety of the country. He's not neglecting his job, he's not on a vacation for 6 months while collecting a check. He's exercising his discretion.
C. This is clearly targeted and may run in to issues where there are protections against that. I'm not familiar enough with the fl constitution to say but I'm gonna guess his lawyers will be.
D. The discovery on this is going to hurt desantis. The decision is nakedly political and the behind the scenes discussions and emails will be more so. The will come out in trial. You're going to see a lot of over the top talk and attempts to justify the political move. Given the people involved you may see political and racial slurs even. Desantis hasn't realized that if he's running for president his tactics that work in the deep red parts of Florida aren't going to work the same on a national scale. This turns off independent voters in swing State suburbs.
 
2022-08-08 7:51:00 AM  
thorpe:

If you tell your boss "I'm going to neglect my duty" he doesn't have to wait for you to actually do it to fire you
 
2022-08-08 7:54:09 AM  

willwall: The discovery on this is going to hurt


I wish I had a dollar for every time this had been typed on fark

(And yet the discovery has never actually hurt anybody)
 
2022-08-08 7:56:30 AM  
This man is a well liked state attorney who DeSantis had escorted out of his office by the sheriffs office. Doesn't sounds scary at all.
 
2022-08-08 8:29:22 AM  
The man is an Autocratic Fascist who uses "Law Enforcement" to go after anyone who calls him out on his illegal bullschit. Where is THAT legal?

Also he barely won election first time around, and I think he's using the " Inevitability" page out of Karl Roves playbook. I question whether he could get re-elected in an honest election. He's drinking his own brand of CPAC KoolAid. I refuse to believe anyone actually likes this asshole, and Harvard should hang its head in shame for enabling him with one of their FARKing diplomas.
 
2022-08-08 8:53:55 AM  

killershark: And the views of people in this county are probably different from his. That's why they voted for this attorney to represent them.

It's also a good reminder to pay attention to down ballot races. Attorneys and judges can make decisions about which laws to enforce and who to prosecute. Remember that in November and choose someone who represents your views on enforcing things like abortions and bank robberies and paying teenage girls to cross state lines for sexual purposes. These are local officials who are making decisions about the crime enforcement in your local community.


Hence the "get your booty to the pole" by strippers in ATL video was funny and good. They talk about things that the DA does.

age restricted so won't let me link. NSFW?
 
2022-08-08 8:56:12 AM  
Is this the part where people sayin things like "rules" and "laws" and "oaths" and "honor" and other things that DeathSantis doesn't give a fark about?

Because yeah, he knows he won't lose an election in Florida because he counts the votes. He knows the laws will work for him because he enforces the laws and the GQP controls the courts and legislature as well.

Add in SCOUTS who will happily say this is an issue for the state, and he wins every time.
 
2022-08-08 9:43:22 AM  
Since when do Republicans care about the will of the voters? Thanks to our crap election systems, they can remain in power even with minimal support.
 
2022-08-08 9:46:38 AM  

Electrify: Just waiting for something racist or xenophobic to make the airwaves, where DeSantis will say that those being racist and xenophobic are protected from consequence - even in the private realm - because of the First Amendment without a hint of irony.

/the way things are going, Alabama will become more progressive than Florida


Evidently Kansas is more progressive than Florida.
 
2022-08-08 9:50:25 AM  
First, it was "Kill all the lawyers."   Dead lawyers help build dictatorships.

Then, it was "Kill all the doctors what with a pandemic, and then women and doctors conspiring."  Dead doctors help keep dictatorships.

Finally, de Santis is Old School, going back to "Kill the lawyers."
 
2022-08-08 10:01:52 AM  

jjorsett: De Santis will probably welcome a legal challenge. Part of the reason he did the firing is he knows the public is concerned by rapidly-rising crime rates, and this signals his intention to get tough. A legal challenge will keep it in the public eye for months, which will only help.


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2022-08-08 10:24:17 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: AnotherAussiefarker: So when some one refuses to fill a script for religious reasons they're taking a stand and can't be fired, but when someone else does it they need to be removed?

Yes.  Religion is protected by the constitution

The constitution doesn't protect you if the law hurts your fee fees


But this lawyer was following his religion. His religion states that people should not be taken from their homes, jobs, and families and imprisoned for spurious reasons.

Why doesn't he have freedom of religion?
 
2022-08-08 10:48:06 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: The discovery on this is going to hurt

I wish I had a dollar for every time this had been typed on fark

(And yet the discovery has never actually hurt anybody)


Talk to Alex Jones on that one
 
2022-08-08 10:55:30 AM  

willwall: GrizzlyPouch: willwall: The discovery on this is going to hurt

I wish I had a dollar for every time this had been typed on fark

(And yet the discovery has never actually hurt anybody)

Talk to Alex Jones on that one


He talks to himself enough already.
 
2022-08-08 11:12:31 AM  
Maybe include DeathSantis being out of state alot and therefore not performing his duties in the suit
https://twitter.com/GaryGrumbach/status/1556654886200250368?t=YrAAm40lbdyRw-ShkFFuXQ&s=19
 
2022-08-08 1:51:46 PM  

jjorsett: The Florida constitution explicitly grants the governor the power to fire officials for "neglect of duty," making it legal if the official is indeed neglecting his duty, which he is.


DA's make selective enforcement and prosecution decisions all the time because resources are not infinite and violent/financial crimes are a priority. Lots of 1800s laws are not enforced. By your logic anything counts as "neglect of duty."
 
2022-08-08 2:05:36 PM  

Qwurky1: Too bad DeSantis wasn't aborted


Or recalled to the Navy and court-martialed for being a farking fascist.
 
2022-08-08 6:22:19 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Bugerz: "I don't think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you're deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn't be enforced," said the governor.

I'm willing to bet his opinion on mask and distancing mandates and vaccine requirements were slightly different.

Covid still exists.  Do you wear a mask all the time right now in public?  (You don't)

GTFO


It's always amusing when, because someone's a lazy asshole with zero respect for others, they think everyone is a lazy asshole with no respect for others. Like, they're literally incapable of even imagining, much less experiencing empathy.
 
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