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2022-08-07 12:21:30 PM  
Surely Mark Margolis (Hector Salamanca)? He already knows how to act in a wheelchair.
 
2022-08-07 1:41:15 PM  
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2022-08-07 2:14:54 PM  
I would have thought he'd want to stay away from wheelchairs.
 
2022-08-07 2:16:24 PM  
He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.
 
2022-08-07 2:20:14 PM  
Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.
 
2022-08-07 2:27:01 PM  

TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.


Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.
 
2022-08-07 2:28:33 PM  

Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.


That backstory is going have to change unless you're going to cast someone in their 80s
 
2022-08-07 2:29:24 PM  
He already terrifies me!  I don't want him to read my mind too!
 
2022-08-07 2:33:47 PM  
I'd love to see this happen just to see the fanbois get their panties in a twist!
 
2022-08-07 2:35:25 PM  

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2022-08-07 2:42:05 PM  
Trading Places Jail Scene
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2022-08-07 2:48:25 PM  
farking FINALLY. It's been like three whole years already since the last X-men movie. And after 20 years and something like 12 X-Men movies, if there's one thing I'm dying for, it's MORE X-Men movies
 
2022-08-07 2:52:43 PM  

Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.


While I liked Patrick Stewart's X, it was entirely unlike the original, who was a megalomaniac control freak who was all about pushing his students to the brink and beyond and then chastising them like a reverend when they missed the mark by even a little.  X was an asshole in other words, Esposito can do that perfectly.
 
2022-08-07 3:00:05 PM  
He'd be better as Wilson Fisk / The Kingpin with a wasting disease.
 
2022-08-07 3:02:02 PM  

Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.


I've never seen him do anything but 'quiet, composed, precise'.  The menace is all context, it comes from having a boss surrounded by thugs who is preternaturally calm when you expect rage and violence.

Xavier doesn't need menace, but I hope Esposito has more range than I have witnessed.  And I'm not expecting him to copy Stewart's performance either, which was "Captain Picard in a wheelchair" as best I could tell.
 
2022-08-07 3:46:11 PM  

Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.


He's a great actor I think he could figure it out.
 
2022-08-07 3:55:02 PM  
How about Howard the Duck's arch nemesis. Doctor Bong.
 
2022-08-07 4:28:48 PM  

deadsanta: Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.

While I liked Patrick Stewart's X, it was entirely unlike the original, who was a megalomaniac control freak who was all about pushing his students to the brink and beyond and then chastising them like a reverend when they missed the mark by even a little.  X was an asshole in other words, Esposito can do that perfectly.


Yep, Xavier might be on the good guy side, but comics prof X isn't just a noble good guy. For me, I think 90s cartoon Xavier biased things more that way. He could work with standard comics X.
 
2022-08-07 4:34:47 PM  

TheManofPA: Xavier might be on the good guy side, but comics prof X isn't just a noble good guy.


I think grimdark is coming to an end and the pendulum is likely to swing significantly towards 'ridiculously polar'.  Good guys will pretty much be saints, bad guys will have to twirl mustaches as they tie Nell to the railway tracks.

Which is bad in its own way, but too much nuance seems to be burning audiences out.  We're not really interested in sympathetic villains or troubled heroes any longer.
 
2022-08-07 4:48:03 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.

I've never seen him do anything but 'quiet, composed, precise'.  The menace is all context, it comes from having a boss surrounded by thugs who is preternaturally calm when you expect rage and violence.

Xavier doesn't need menace, but I hope Esposito has more range than I have witnessed.  And I'm not expecting him to copy Stewart's performance either, which was "Captain Picard in a wheelchair" as best I could tell.


Did you miss this film?

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2022-08-07 5:12:21 PM  
Stan Edgar is the man. Damn it.
 
2022-08-07 5:21:01 PM  

Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.


I love Giancarlo Esposito and think he would make a great Professor X, except for one thing.  In other media Prof X is a straight white male, with no reason for anyone to discriminate against him except his mutation.  Since all the mutant comics are about racism and discrimination this takes a little away from the character.

He could make a decent Magneto if they change the backstory from a holocaust survivor to a George Floyd scenario. Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.
 
2022-08-07 5:47:24 PM  
Genesis story
Maximum Overdrive (1986) - Young Giancarlo Esposito scenes
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2022-08-07 5:49:54 PM  
Looking forward to this.
 
2022-08-07 6:04:52 PM  
I am looking forward to him playing a 25 year old Gus Fring in Chile in the Better Call Saul prequel.
 
2022-08-07 6:11:22 PM  

Lord Bear: I love Giancarlo Esposito and think he would make a great Professor X, except for one thing. In other media Prof X is a straight white male, with no reason for anyone to discriminate against him except his mutation. Since all the mutant comics are about racism and discrimination this takes a little away from the character.


Or it adds the nuance that he's grown up knowing prejudice, and has a much better understanding of it than Patrick Stewart's rich, white and privileged Professor X, whose mental powers not only don't make him a visibly instant target for mutant discrimination, but also allow him to tinker around inside the heads of anyone who doesn't like him. If Bubba Joe Bill recognizes him as that dirty ol' mutie and wants to make trouble, X can hit him with a stage magician prank and leave Bubba naked and pooping himself in the middle of the street, temporarily convinced he's Wilbur the Pig from Charlotte's Web. He can also wipe Bubba's memory so he has no recollection of ever meeting Prof. X, and leave him thinking he just had a complete mental breakdown.
 
2022-08-07 6:21:53 PM  

Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.


Gus Fring is a great surrogate dad to his chicken employees.
 
2022-08-07 6:46:53 PM  
he looks like a typical "charles xavier" born to wealthy residents of Westchester NY
 
2022-08-07 7:05:41 PM  

Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.


Watch how he is in Better Call Saul when Fring is just being a person and not really involved with the whole drug world. e.g., his interactions with his Los Pollos Hermanos employees or his acquaintance at the wine bar.

I'm no X-Men/comic book expert, but I think he has the range to play the part well.
 
2022-08-07 7:22:31 PM  

spiralscratch: Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.

Watch how he is in Better Call Saul when Fring is just being a person and not really involved with the whole drug world. e.g., his interactions with his Los Pollos Hermanos employees or his acquaintance at the wine bar.

I'm no X-Men/comic book expert, but I think he has the range to play the part well.


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2022-08-07 7:52:53 PM  

EdgeRunner: Or it adds the nuance that he's grown up knowing prejudice, and has a much better understanding of it than Patrick Stewart's rich, white and privileged Professor X, whose mental powers not only don't make him a visibly instant target for mutant discrimination, but also allow him to tinker around inside the heads of anyone who doesn't like him.


I think Prof X being privileged in every way (give or take the chair) is a more interesting dynamic to work with. In terms of complicating his relationship to his students, but especially when playing against Magneto's very personal experience of the worst sort of racist horrors. A significant part of what makes that duo work--makes their conflict interesting and lets them convincingly wrestle over potential minions--is that Magneto can play the "easy for you to say" card against Xavier and not be wrong.


Lord Bear: Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.


DO IT
 
2022-08-07 7:55:43 PM  

Lord Bear: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

I love Giancarlo Esposito and think he would make a great Professor X, except for one thing.  In other media Prof X is a straight white male, with no reason for anyone to discriminate against him except his mutation.  Since all the mutant comics are about racism and discrimination this takes a little away from the character.

He could make a decent Magneto if they change the backstory from a holocaust survivor to a George Floyd scenario. Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.


True but I think you could easily add another/new layer to the Professor X. Instead of a straight white male born into privilege who takes in anyone, you have a man who has suffered racism and discrimination, who opens up his home to everyone, who can empathize with the struggle of his students. Because if we are honest, even though Xavier is in a wheelchair it is rarely shown as a struggle for him (especially when he is given the float chair). It would also give a better contrast to Magneto, BOTH men would then have suffered violence for the way they are born, one chooses violent struggle and one chooses piece.

/ it gets into Malcom and King territory, which could could be used to educate people during the film
// with the right script writer and director this good be great
/// Spike Lee does the MCU?
 
2022-08-07 8:00:23 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: EdgeRunner: Or it adds the nuance that he's grown up knowing prejudice, and has a much better understanding of it than Patrick Stewart's rich, white and privileged Professor X, whose mental powers not only don't make him a visibly instant target for mutant discrimination, but also allow him to tinker around inside the heads of anyone who doesn't like him.

I think Prof X being privileged in every way (give or take the chair) is a more interesting dynamic to work with. In terms of complicating his relationship to his students, but especially when playing against Magneto's very personal experience of the worst sort of racist horrors. A significant part of what makes that duo work--makes their conflict interesting and lets them convincingly wrestle over potential minions--is that Magneto can play the "easy for you to say" card against Xavier and not be wrong.


Lord Bear: Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.

DO IT


I agree with you on this part, it definitely gives Magneto a stronger position to debate from. Although they can still stack even more protected class status on Magneto. Although Doom already has Roma locked up.
DeafTransPalestinianAinu? Suck it, Professor ServingTheMan!
 
2022-08-07 8:05:16 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: A significant part of what makes that duo work--makes their conflict interesting and lets them convincingly wrestle over potential minions--is that Magneto can play the "easy for you to say" card against Xavier and not be wrong.


True, but they have to change up the dynamic regardless. If they just keep playing the same notes that the Fox movies presented, the new X-Men series will feel tired from the start. We're also living in a contentious age where Professor X, a mindreader who can see the state of things more clearly than anyone else, would have to agree with Magneto that there's a lot of bigoted jerks out there who require watching and fierce opposition. X and Magneto will still have to differ on methods, but a more cynical Professor X would be more topical and logical.
 
2022-08-07 8:08:02 PM  
ReaverZ:

True but I think you could easily add another/new layer to the Professor X. Instead of a straight white male born into privilege who takes in anyone, you have a man who has suffered racism and discrimination, who opens up his home to everyone, who can empathize with the struggle of his students. Because if we are honest, even though Xavier is in a wheelchair it is rarely shown as a struggle for him (especially when he is given the float chair). It would also give a better contrast to Magneto, BOTH men would then have suffered violence for the way they are born, one chooses violent struggle and one chooses piece.

I've always felt it was the difference between Xavier and Magneto.  Xavier is more positive because he never really experienced other racism outside of mutation.  Magneto has and consequently has a more negative view.  It makes X a bit more naive and Magneto more jaded.
 
2022-08-07 8:24:40 PM  

Lord Bear: I've always felt it was the difference between Xavier and Magneto. Xavier is more positive because he never really experienced other racism outside of mutation. Magneto has and consequently has a more negative view. It makes X a bit more naive and Magneto more jaded.


But Xavier being naive doesn't make sense for the character. Magneto is only willing to see the worst in everyone because of his personal tragedies, but Prof. X can literally read everyone's mind. The message of the earlier films was that X saw enough decency in the general population to think things weren't beyond saving, unlike Magneto who had lost all faith in humanity at an early age. Any new version of Prof. X would understand the motivations behind the current rise of prejudicial hate more clearly than anyone, and it wouldn't make sense for him to be as Pollyanna-ish about it as Stewart's X was.
 
2022-08-07 8:42:12 PM  

TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.


Xavier is every bit as evil as Magneto he's just more subtle about it. It seemed like every other issue you would hear about another member of the X-men that Xavier Mind Raped for their own good.
 
2022-08-07 8:47:59 PM  

Trik: spiralscratch: Snapper Carr: He certainly has the gravitas but (and maybe it's only because I've seen him primarily in very "Gus Fring" roles lately), I don't get the sense of compassion and empathy that Xavier has.

Watch how he is in Better Call Saul when Fring is just being a person and not really involved with the whole drug world. e.g., his interactions with his Los Pollos Hermanos employees or his acquaintance at the wine bar.

I'm no X-Men/comic book expert, but I think he has the range to play the part well.

But can he pull off totally bald?
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2022-08-07 8:59:26 PM  

Lord Bear: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

I love Giancarlo Esposito and think he would make a great Professor X, except for one thing.  In other media Prof X is a straight white male, with no reason for anyone to discriminate against him except his mutation.  Since all the mutant comics are about racism and discrimination this takes a little away from the character.

He could make a decent Magneto if they change the backstory from a holocaust survivor to a George Floyd scenario. Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.


They could make Professor X a 1960s civil rights leader who was beaten and tortured to near death by KKK aligned southern "scientists" when his powers came out due to the extreme stress of the torture.

Similar to Deadpool.
 
2022-08-07 9:01:03 PM  

paulleah: Lord Bear: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

I love Giancarlo Esposito and think he would make a great Professor X, except for one thing.  In other media Prof X is a straight white male, with no reason for anyone to discriminate against him except his mutation.  Since all the mutant comics are about racism and discrimination this takes a little away from the character.

He could make a decent Magneto if they change the backstory from a holocaust survivor to a George Floyd scenario. Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.

They could make Professor X a 1960s civil rights leader who was beaten and tortured to near death by KKK aligned southern "scientists" when his powers came out due to the extreme stress of the torture.

Similar to Deadpool.


Uhhh. I meant Magneto. Not CX.
 
2022-08-07 9:27:51 PM  
please happen.
 
2022-08-07 9:56:26 PM  
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2022-08-07 10:25:46 PM  

TDWCom29: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

That backstory is going have to change unless you're going to cast someone in their 80s


Ageless?
 
2022-08-07 10:32:08 PM  

TDWCom29: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

That backstory is going have to change unless you're going to cast someone in their 80s


That backstory is starting to be a problem in a chronological sense. Iirc, the MCU is several years ahead of our time so Magneto would be nearly 90.
 
2022-08-07 10:53:37 PM  

Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.


You mean like how black people were routinely treated by the Nazis?

Or you could change it from the Holocaust to one of many other genocides.
 
2022-08-07 11:05:08 PM  

Lord Bear: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

I love Giancarlo Esposito and think he would make a great Professor X, except for one thing.  In other media Prof X is a straight white male, with no reason for anyone to discriminate against him except his mutation.  Since all the mutant comics are about racism and discrimination this takes a little away from the character.

He could make a decent Magneto if they change the backstory from a holocaust survivor to a George Floyd scenario. Or just give him Dr. Doom, which would be better than either.


Another option might be the Rwandan Genocide.
 
2022-08-07 11:23:57 PM  
I read that as Guy Fieri
 
2022-08-08 12:00:22 AM  
Save him for DC. He can be Kite Man!
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2022-08-08 12:01:28 AM  

Trik: Save him for DC. He can be Kite Man!
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He's already Lex Luther
 
2022-08-08 12:09:03 AM  

TDWCom29: Snapper Carr: TDWCom29: Might be a lil bit of typecasting but I feel like he'd be a way better Magneto than Xavier.

Normally I'm not a stickler for ethnic/gender/whatever identity in casting but Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor is pretty central to his character.  He needs to at least be able to pass for someone from one of the Nazi occupied territories.

That backstory is going have to change unless you're going to cast someone in their 80s


X-Men: Evolution solved that problem by giving Magneto access to, essentially, the Infinity Formula treatment.
 
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