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2022-08-07 9:18:35 AM  
I wish I knew what it was like being so successful that you just decide to fail
 
2022-08-07 9:30:28 AM  
This is clearly the fault of the lazy stay at home stockholders.

They need to stay at home stock hold harder so they have more time for Netflix.
 
2022-08-07 9:37:00 AM  
They need to segment their content with distinct branding.  "Netflix" doesn't mean anything anymore.
 
2022-08-07 9:39:39 AM  
We're thinking of getting rid of Netflix, Apple, and HBOMax. It has been years and years since Hollywood made movies for adults, and it shows in what streaming services have to offer. We got Apple to watch Ted Lasso and it's just laziness that we haven't canceled. I can't remember what we got HBOMax for. Ditto on the laziness.

I liked the original business model for Netflix. Mailing discs. That was kind of fun.
 
2022-08-07 9:51:49 AM  
That's not at all what the analyst is saying, subby. I mean, I know that doesn't factor at all into your submission process and a greenlight is a greenlight, but the point of this article is actually a much larger point about where we are with "omg streaming is going to change EVERYTHING" right now. In a day when cord-cutting was supposed to be the first step in a glorious age of the consumer controlling access to media and entertainment, what's happened instead is that the trailblazing companies that brought cord-cutting as a realistic choice are now, slowly but inevitably, becoming big media companies themselves. If you're one of the few people who've actually read Animal Farm instead of just quoting certain catchphrases from it that you leaned from Wikipedia, you know where the ultimate ending lies.
 
2022-08-07 9:58:30 AM  
Netflix has run into the its not worth paying for if you can't afford it problem.  There are a lot of things I like to watch on Netflix. Dragon Prince, Bastard, The Witcher, Locke and Key, Altered Carbon, Warrior Nun, and then there is Sandman which I want to watch but keep falling asleep trying to get through one episode of.
 
2022-08-07 10:00:34 AM  

Pocket Ninja: That's not at all what the analyst is saying, subby. I mean, I know that doesn't factor at all into your submission process and a greenlight is a greenlight, but the point of this article is actually a much larger point about where we are with "omg streaming is going to change EVERYTHING" right now. In a day when cord-cutting was supposed to be the first step in a glorious age of the consumer controlling access to media and entertainment, what's happened instead is that the trailblazing companies that brought cord-cutting as a realistic choice are now, slowly but inevitably, becoming big media companies themselves. If you're one of the few people who've actually read Animal Farm instead of just quoting certain catchphrases from it that you leaned from Wikipedia, you know where the ultimate ending lies.


Who are you and where did you hide our silly goof
 
2022-08-07 10:11:18 AM  

yakmans_dad: We're thinking of getting rid of Netflix, Apple, and HBOMax. It has been years and years since Hollywood made movies for adults, and it shows in what streaming services have to offer. We got Apple to watch Ted Lasso and it's just laziness that we haven't canceled. I can't remember what we got HBOMax for. Ditto on the laziness.

I liked the original business model for Netflix. Mailing discs. That was kind of fun.


HBO has a lot of great shows at the moment:

Succession
White Lotus
The Rehearsal
Curb
Last Week Tonight
Barry
Hacks
Station Eleven

And this doesn't include the limited series that are one and done.

Apple is getting better. I would call Severance good, not great, but certainly unique. Similar deal with For All Mankind. Good, and certainly not many shows like it that are so visually spectacular and ambitious in scope.
 
2022-08-07 10:15:31 AM  
Netflix will always be the #1 streamer. It's having a moment. It will get through it, find more content and keep going on.
 
2022-08-07 10:29:30 AM  
I want Netflix to struggle. When companies have to compete for customers, the customers win. Better product, better prices, better customer service. Monopolies know they've got you over a barrel and will treat you accordingly.

So struggle, Netflix. I like you better when you're desperate for my money.
 
2022-08-07 10:46:20 AM  

Marksrevenge: I want Netflix to struggle. When companies have to compete for customers, the customers win. Better product, better prices, better customer service. Monopolies know they've got you over a barrel and will treat you accordingly.

So struggle, Netflix. I like you better when you're desperate for my money.


A lap dance is better when the stripper is crying.
 
2022-08-07 10:50:03 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Marksrevenge: I want Netflix to struggle. When companies have to compete for customers, the customers win. Better product, better prices, better customer service. Monopolies know they've got you over a barrel and will treat you accordingly.

So struggle, Netflix. I like you better when you're desperate for my money.

A lap dance is better when the stripper is crying.


fark me! I had the same exact thought.

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2022-08-07 11:49:14 AM  
My time watching Netflix consists mostly of spending 45 minutes scrolling past things I don't want to watch.
 
2022-08-07 12:00:29 PM  
Must be the same person who changed the definition of what a recession is.
 
2022-08-07 12:11:52 PM  
This reminds me to cancel Netflix.
 
2022-08-07 12:46:32 PM  

yakmans_dad: We're thinking of getting rid of Netflix, Apple, and HBOMax. It has been years and years since Hollywood made movies for adults, and it shows in what streaming services have to offer. We got Apple to watch Ted Lasso and it's just laziness that we haven't canceled. I can't remember what we got HBOMax for. Ditto on the laziness.

I liked the original business model for Netflix. Mailing discs. That was kind of fun.


Cancel first.
Think about it before you buy again.
 
2022-08-07 12:52:20 PM  

Decorus: Netflix has run into the its not worth paying for if you can't afford it problem.  There are a lot of things I like to watch on Netflix. Dragon Prince, Bastard, The Witcher, Locke and Key, Altered Carbon, Warrior Nun, and then there is Sandman which I want to watch but keep falling asleep trying to get through one episode of.


The biggest problem, IMHO, with streaming services is that I only care about a small percentage of the content.

Back in the day, I'd pay for cable and even premium channels to get one show I cared a lot about.

Now, I can pay for 1-2 months of Netflix per year and see all of the original Netflix content I want.

I predict they will start heavily discounting longer subscription contracts while simultaneously raising monthly rates.
 
2022-08-07 12:56:20 PM  
Netflix failed because of the immense failure of not streaming MASH.

/I called it.
// Cancelled netflix and went with HBO+, it was free with the cell plan.
 
2022-08-07 12:58:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Netflix will always be the #1 streamer. It's having a moment. It will get through it, find more content and keep going on.


Yeah, no.  People have been fleeing in droves (I'm one of them) because the available content is lacking, and its original content is no longer the superior quality of its early days.  Netflix threw down the gauntlet and broke a lot of ground; however, Reed Hastings was so busy smelling his own farts that Netflix became the victim of his hubris.
 
2022-08-07 1:16:24 PM  

Pocket Ninja: That's not at all what the analyst is saying, subby. I mean, I know that doesn't factor at all into your submission process and a greenlight is a greenlight, but the point of this article is actually a much larger point about where we are with "omg streaming is going to change EVERYTHING" right now. In a day when cord-cutting was supposed to be the first step in a glorious age of the consumer controlling access to media and entertainment, what's happened instead is that the trailblazing companies that brought cord-cutting as a realistic choice are now, slowly but inevitably, becoming big media companies themselves. If you're one of the few people who've actually read Animal Farm instead of just quoting certain catchphrases from it that you leaned from Wikipedia, you know where the ultimate ending lies.


Netflix, who for so long was a bastion of anti-advertisement, has recently teamed up with Microsoft (via their Xander acquisition) to push advertisements onto Netflix subscribers.

Animal farm, indeed.
 
2022-08-07 1:17:45 PM  

yakmans_dad: We're thinking of getting rid of Netflix, Apple, and HBOMax. It has been years and years since Hollywood made movies for adults, and it shows in what streaming services have to offer. We got Apple to watch Ted Lasso and it's just laziness that we haven't canceled. I can't remember what we got HBOMax for. Ditto on the laziness.

I liked the original business model for Netflix. Mailing discs. That was kind of fun.


They still do it, you just need to subscribe to that service from them, they call it the DVD plan now.

https://dvd.netflix.com/
 
2022-08-07 1:37:47 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: NewportBarGuy: Netflix will always be the #1 streamer. It's having a moment. It will get through it, find more content and keep going on.

Yeah, no.  People have been fleeing in droves (I'm one of them) because the available content is lacking, and its original content is no longer the superior quality of its early days.  Netflix threw down the gauntlet and broke a lot of ground; however, Reed Hastings was so busy smelling his own farts that Netflix became the victim of his hubris.


In droves?

They have 220,000,000 and lost 2 million over the past 2 quarters.
No, not droves.

I hear you though. They also sucked for a bit at several periods over the last 10 years. They always find some way to come back with new shows or content. I think they will again and not other platform is going to usurp them as #1.

Of course I could be wrong. I often am.
 
2022-08-07 1:38:27 PM  

DuckSausage: Pocket Ninja: That's not at all what the analyst is saying, subby. I mean, I know that doesn't factor at all into your submission process and a greenlight is a greenlight, but the point of this article is actually a much larger point about where we are with "omg streaming is going to change EVERYTHING" right now. In a day when cord-cutting was supposed to be the first step in a glorious age of the consumer controlling access to media and entertainment, what's happened instead is that the trailblazing companies that brought cord-cutting as a realistic choice are now, slowly but inevitably, becoming big media companies themselves. If you're one of the few people who've actually read Animal Farm instead of just quoting certain catchphrases from it that you leaned from Wikipedia, you know where the ultimate ending lies.

Netflix, who for so long was a bastion of anti-advertisement, has recently teamed up with Microsoft (via their Xander acquisition) to push advertisements onto Netflix subscribers.

Animal farm, indeed.


If you want to pay a lower rate. If you pay the high rate, like with HULU, you still see no ads.
 
2022-08-07 1:48:22 PM  
I resubbed twice this year; once for Umbrella Academy and once for Stranger Things.  Binged them then went looking for more content.  Found precious little to my liking.  It was easy to unsub again.

AMC: Unsub as soon as Better Call Saul ends.
Paramount +: Unsub when?  Keep on Star Trekkin'.
HBO Max:  Unsub next month or so, after Harley Quinn, Medicine Woman.  The channel is being killed anyway.
Apple+: Unsub when For All Mankind ends.  Resub for Better Off Ted Lasso.  Severance was great.
Disney+: As long as Marvel and SW keep coming out I'm subbed.  Though SW is not so great to me anymore.
 
2022-08-07 1:49:50 PM  

yakmans_dad: We're thinking of getting rid of Netflix, Apple, and HBOMax. It has been years and years since Hollywood made movies for adults, and it shows in what streaming services have to offer. We got Apple to watch Ted Lasso and it's just laziness that we haven't canceled. I can't remember what we got HBOMax for. Ditto on the laziness.

I liked the original business model for Netflix. Mailing discs. That was kind of fun.


I'm all for physical media, but on an ownership level.
The environmental impact of physical media as a mail based rental is catastrophic.
 
2022-08-07 2:19:20 PM  
I don't understand why some people will say there's nothing to watch on Netflix. One there's always new content and they release a lot of interesting shows. And secondly, I guess this applies to me being a geezer, before online steaming and during the VHS/DVD days, if there wasn't anything new to watch, I'd watch a favorite show or movie. And Netflix has a lot of classics  as well.

So I'm not saying Netflix is worth keeping no matter what. There are good reasons to cancel, and everyone has their reasons. I just don't understand the lack of content one. And in addition, Netflix offers the one thing others don't; DVD deliveries. I still have that plan, because anything not streaming can mostly be had on disc.
 
2022-08-07 2:54:11 PM  
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2022-08-07 3:33:19 PM  
When Netflix started out, it was relatively cheap to buy rights to ship DVDs and later stream content since it was new and there was little competition or price discovery.  Netflix did a decent job of monetizing their contracts and plowing the cash back into new content, but now that there's competition their costs for non-original content have skyrocketed and they're finding out how hard it is to generate consistent high quality profitable content.  The percentage of Netflix original to non-original content keeps tilting further and further to Netflix originals, but the popularity of their content is too uneven to support the whole enterprise.  Soon as they start shrinking, they're probably going into a death spiral and if they survive it will be as a much smaller company.  Or like the major film studios in the 80's there will be a big wave of consolidation and they'll get bought.
 
2022-08-07 3:45:21 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Netflix will always be the #1 streamer. It's having a moment. It will get through it, find more content and keep going on.


What's their competitive advantage, compared to all the new streaming services?

Amazon and Apple have ungodly amounts of money to throw at content.

Disney, Peacock (part of NBC Universal), HBOMax (Warner Bros.), etc. have deep back catalogs, plus top tier production studios for new content, and (especially for Disney) tons of IP to work from.

Netflix still has the most subscribers, but Amazon and Disney are catching up.

I'm not even clear on how involved Netflix actually is in their "original content" - are they actually part of the team making it, or are they just writing checks for stuff other people already created?  The ability to create good content might provide a sustainable advantage, but if all they're doing is identifying and buying marketable shows, the lots of companies can do that.
 
2022-08-07 4:33:46 PM  
The positive of the streaming era is that none of them are nasty about cancelling.  This leads to the 'dabble' package.  I know I'm going to be home over Christmas, I pick up Netflix for a month and catch up on five shows.  I've got a staycation in June, I pick up Disney+ for a month.  March Madness is the main sport I care about, I pick up Sling for a month.  I'm going to be busy and traveling in September, no streaming package at all.
 
2022-08-07 5:15:17 PM  
Let me know when Netflix stops platforming transphobic content and maybe I'll resubscribe.
 
2022-08-07 5:21:52 PM  

TheSubjunctive: The positive of the streaming era is that none of them are nasty about cancelling.  This leads to the 'dabble' package.  I know I'm going to be home over Christmas, I pick up Netflix for a month and catch up on five shows.  I've got a staycation in June, I pick up Disney+ for a month.  March Madness is the main sport I care about, I pick up Sling for a month.  I'm going to be busy and traveling in September, no streaming package at all.


I think the problem you'll eventually face is that's not going to last. Cancelling the service may still end up being easy to do, but simply buying a month at a time will end up costing more. You're going to have tiered pricing based on commitment.

Basically, you want that $9.99 a month rate?  That'll be 1 year up front. You just want one month?  That'll be $29.99.

Of course those are hypothetical numbers and in the end it still may be worth it to you. But I think this is definitely coming in the near future.
 
2022-08-07 5:23:34 PM  

skinink: I don't understand why some people will say there's nothing to watch on Netflix. One there's always new content and they release a lot of interesting shows. And secondly, I guess this applies to me being a geezer, before online steaming and during the VHS/DVD days, if there wasn't anything new to watch, I'd watch a favorite show or movie. And Netflix has a lot of classics  as well.

So I'm not saying Netflix is worth keeping no matter what. There are good reasons to cancel, and everyone has their reasons. I just don't understand the lack of content one. And in addition, Netflix offers the one thing others don't; DVD deliveries. I still have that plan, because anything not streaming can mostly be had on disc.


"Nothing" is certainly hyperbole. But Netflix's focus on quantity leaves their quality stuff awash in a sea of shiat.
 
2022-08-07 5:41:16 PM  
Maybe if they stop canceling good shows people actually want to watch, they'd be a more desirable streaming platform.  As it is, some ridiculous metric only understood by higher ups determines canceling popular shows as they are gaining steam is the best way to run a streaming service.
 
2022-08-07 6:26:11 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: skinink: I don't understand why some people will say there's nothing to watch on Netflix. One there's always new content and they release a lot of interesting shows. And secondly, I guess this applies to me being a geezer, before online steaming and during the VHS/DVD days, if there wasn't anything new to watch, I'd watch a favorite show or movie. And Netflix has a lot of classics  as well.

So I'm not saying Netflix is worth keeping no matter what. There are good reasons to cancel, and everyone has their reasons. I just don't understand the lack of content one. And in addition, Netflix offers the one thing others don't; DVD deliveries. I still have that plan, because anything not streaming can mostly be had on disc.

"Nothing" is certainly hyperbole. But Netflix's focus on quantity leaves their quality stuff awash in a sea of shiat.


This is definitely the Golden Age for actors. There's so much "content" that if you're not getting work as an actor, Life is giving you a hint.
 
2022-08-07 6:34:34 PM  

Tannhauser: I resubbed twice this year; once for Umbrella Academy and once for Stranger Things.  Binged them then went looking for more content.  Found precious little to my liking.  It was easy to unsub again.

AMC: Unsub as soon as Better Call Saul ends.
Paramount +: Unsub when?  Keep on Star Trekkin'.
HBO Max:  Unsub next month or so, after Harley Quinn, Medicine Woman.  The channel is being killed anyway.
Apple+: Unsub when For All Mankind ends.  Resub for Better Off Ted Lasso.  Severance was great.
Disney+: As long as Marvel and SW keep coming out I'm subbed.  Though SW is not so great to me anymore.


While you still have HBO, make sure you watch From the Earth to the Moon if you haven't seen it yet. THE story of the Apollo missions and man's quest for the moon.
 
2022-08-07 6:38:06 PM  

yakmans_dad: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: skinink: I don't understand why some people will say there's nothing to watch on Netflix. One there's always new content and they release a lot of interesting shows. And secondly, I guess this applies to me being a geezer, before online steaming and during the VHS/DVD days, if there wasn't anything new to watch, I'd watch a favorite show or movie. And Netflix has a lot of classics  as well.

So I'm not saying Netflix is worth keeping no matter what. There are good reasons to cancel, and everyone has their reasons. I just don't understand the lack of content one. And in addition, Netflix offers the one thing others don't; DVD deliveries. I still have that plan, because anything not streaming can mostly be had on disc.

"Nothing" is certainly hyperbole. But Netflix's focus on quantity leaves their quality stuff awash in a sea of shiat.

This is definitely the Golden Age for actors. There's so much "content" that if you're not getting work as an actor, Life is giving you a hint.


Yes and no. Apparently residuals are no longer a thing.
 
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2022-08-07 6:41:47 PM  

tricycleracer: They need to segment their content with distinct branding.  "Netflix" doesn't mean anything anymore.


It used to mean mostly terrible shows with a few good ones sprinkled in.  Has something changed?
 
2022-08-07 6:42:27 PM  

kyleaugustus: Let me know when Netflix stops platforming transphobic content and maybe I'll resubscribe.


Unless there is some ultra-woke platform I don't know about, it's safe to say every streaming service has lots and lots of transphobic content.
 
2022-08-07 6:56:51 PM  
Its expensive and the content is just pure garbage.
 
2022-08-07 7:11:08 PM  

baron von doodle: Tannhauser: I resubbed twice this year; once for Umbrella Academy and once for Stranger Things.  Binged them then went looking for more content.  Found precious little to my liking.  It was easy to unsub again.

AMC: Unsub as soon as Better Call Saul ends.
Paramount +: Unsub when?  Keep on Star Trekkin'.
HBO Max:  Unsub next month or so, after Harley Quinn, Medicine Woman.  The channel is being killed anyway.
Apple+: Unsub when For All Mankind ends.  Resub for Better Off Ted Lasso.  Severance was great.
Disney+: As long as Marvel and SW keep coming out I'm subbed.  Though SW is not so great to me anymore.

While you still have HBO, make sure you watch From the Earth to the Moon if you haven't seen it yet. THE story of the Apollo missions and man's quest for the moon.


Already seen it, completely awesome
 
2022-08-07 7:11:25 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: kyleaugustus: Let me know when Netflix stops platforming transphobic content and maybe I'll resubscribe.

Unless there is some ultra-woke platform I don't know about, it's safe to say every streaming service has lots and lots of transphobic content.


True. I don't quite count Ace Ventura, Austin Powers, or other old works in the same fashion.

With Netflix I was paying monthly for newly produced transphobic content. Decided it wasn't worth it.
 
2022-08-07 7:13:27 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Chief Superintendent Lookout: NewportBarGuy: Netflix will always be the #1 streamer. It's having a moment. It will get through it, find more content and keep going on.

Yeah, no.  People have been fleeing in droves (I'm one of them) because the available content is lacking, and its original content is no longer the superior quality of its early days.  Netflix threw down the gauntlet and broke a lot of ground; however, Reed Hastings was so busy smelling his own farts that Netflix became the victim of his hubris.

In droves?

They have 220,000,000 and lost 2 million over the past 2 quarters.
No, not droves.

I hear you though. They also sucked for a bit at several periods over the last 10 years. They always find some way to come back with new shows or content. I think they will again and not other platform is going to usurp them as #1.

Of course I could be wrong. I often am.


Iirc part of it was divesting of all their Russian subscribers in the last quarter for some reason or other
 
2022-08-07 7:41:01 PM  
I've got a plasma TV that I bought in the 2010's that I still like. It's sort of a smart TV, but the only streaming service it plays is Netflix. I'll keep subscribed to it at least as long as I have that TV.
 
2022-08-07 8:09:51 PM  

baron von doodle: Yes and no. Apparently residuals are no longer a thing.


NFTs to the rescue?
 
2022-08-07 8:11:42 PM  

Likwit: Its expensive and the content is just pure garbage.


I get it free with my cell service, so there's no real pressure to cancel. Otherwise, might consider it.

Well, probably wouldn't anyway. I always find something to watch on the elliptical at the gym.
 
2022-08-07 8:12:11 PM  

Moose out front: I've got a plasma TV that I bought in the 2010's that I still like. It's sort of a smart TV, but the only streaming service it plays is Netflix. I'll keep subscribed to it at least as long as I have that TV.


the TV itself can only play netflix?  Did it come with other apps that have no longer been supported?

Not being snarky, but ran into similar issues with "smart tvs".

I am of the mind of a dongle/device to do the streaming and just buy "dumb" TVs.

/should be a search category for Dumb TVs
 
2022-08-07 8:26:58 PM  

Hyjamon: Moose out front: I've got a plasma TV that I bought in the 2010's that I still like. It's sort of a smart TV, but the only streaming service it plays is Netflix. I'll keep subscribed to it at least as long as I have that TV.

the TV itself can only play netflix?  Did it come with other apps that have no longer been supported?

Not being snarky, but ran into similar issues with "smart tvs".

I am of the mind of a dongle/device to do the streaming and just buy "dumb" TVs.

/should be a search category for Dumb TVs


Do they actually make "dumb" TVs anymore? For home use? Or are you buying old used screens? Computer monitors?
 
2022-08-07 9:01:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: That's not at all what the analyst is saying, subby. I mean, I know that doesn't factor at all into your submission process and a greenlight is a greenlight, but the point of this article is actually a much larger point about where we are with "omg streaming is going to change EVERYTHING" right now. In a day when cord-cutting was supposed to be the first step in a glorious age of the consumer controlling access to media and entertainment, what's happened instead is that the trailblazing companies that brought cord-cutting as a realistic choice are now, slowly but inevitably, becoming big media companies themselves. If you're one of the few people who've actually read Animal Farm instead of just quoting certain catchphrases from it that you leaned from Wikipedia, you know where the ultimate ending lies.


I will add just a few words. The Learning Channel. MTV. The History Channel. Arts and Entertainment. CNN.

We are watching the special things become very un-special right before our eyes. This is what money does. People of a certain age have watched this happen several times already. It is happening again.

Can I just add that Disney deserves a special prize because they are doing it to themselves, and they never even needed the money. So let's call it greed instead.
 
2022-08-07 9:09:47 PM  

Hyjamon: Moose out front: I've got a plasma TV that I bought in the 2010's that I still like. It's sort of a smart TV, but the only streaming service it plays is Netflix. I'll keep subscribed to it at least as long as I have that TV.

the TV itself can only play netflix?  Did it come with other apps that have no longer been supported?

Not being snarky, but ran into similar issues with "smart tvs".

I am of the mind of a dongle/device to do the streaming and just buy "dumb" TVs.

/should be a search category for Dumb TVs


The only app that is factory installed in it is Netflix. I could play Hulu or Amazon Prime or probably any others if I had a dongle or fire stick or whatever those things are called. I thought about getting one but have heard a lot of bad reviews of them... that they're slow and buffer a lot. Times may have changed though, maybe they've gotten better.

I could probably also use the browser it has to go to hulu.com or amazon.com or any of the other streaming services and log in that way, but it would be a bit clunky. It can also play anything else TVs of that era could. I can attach an antenna to get free channels, or get cable TV if I wanted. But it's mostly just a secondary TV that I'm keeping primarily because I feel like Plasma TVs are rare now that they don't make them anymore, and if I get rid of it, I'll never get another.
 
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