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2022-08-06 12:01:31 PM  
I've been looking at Blink but I'm not sold on it. Any recommendations or reviews on what you are using would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
 
2022-08-06 12:06:29 PM  
None of them are great. Privacy is a can of worms and if you want to have anything more than rudimentary notifications of activity they all require subscriptions. In the background internet of things security is terrible.

They all sell their (your) data and you pay for it! Awesome business model but no thanks.
 
2022-08-06 12:08:21 PM  
Look at Wyze. I have a number of their products. There's so much you can do, they're quality, and they're relatively inexpensive.  Their home monitoring is cheap in comparison if you choose to use that. They have inside cams, outside, doorbell, water sensors, motion detection, garage door activation, and a bunch of other stuff. I've been very happy with them.
 
2022-08-06 12:11:26 PM  
Dog
 
2022-08-06 12:12:10 PM  
I have an Arlo system. Cameras work great, changing batteries are a pain in the ass. Go solar
 
2022-08-06 12:18:28 PM  

vudukungfu: Dog


This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

dobermanplanet.comView Full Size
 
2022-08-06 12:31:35 PM  

Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]


Dogs are the best really.
 
2022-08-06 12:39:44 PM  
I have Wyze. It's easy to set up pretty darn affordable.
 
2022-08-06 12:42:57 PM  

IgG4: None of them are great. Privacy is a can of worms and if you want to have anything more than rudimentary notifications of activity they all require subscriptions. In the background internet of things security is terrible.

They all sell their (your) data and you pay for it! Awesome business model but no thanks.


do you have a combination camera / software setup for setting your own CC security system with an app that's accessible over VPN? e-mail / sms / app notifications would be nice.

Basically everything one of these IOT systems do but the data and software says on the home server.
 
2022-08-06 12:50:12 PM  

khitsicker: IgG4: None of them are great. Privacy is a can of worms and if you want to have anything more than rudimentary notifications of activity they all require subscriptions. In the background internet of things security is terrible.

They all sell their (your) data and you pay for it! Awesome business model but no thanks.

do you have a combination camera / software setup for setting your own CC security system with an app that's accessible over VPN? e-mail / sms / app notifications would be nice.

Basically everything one of these IOT systems do but the data and software says on the home server.


Who rolls their own on something like this? I mean you can, but 0.00001% of people do. The buy blink or ring or whatever and put it on their front door and pay the subscription fee, install the app on their phone and send that data out into the world.
 
2022-08-06 12:53:13 PM  

IgG4: khitsicker: IgG4: None of them are great. Privacy is a can of worms and if you want to have anything more than rudimentary notifications of activity they all require subscriptions. In the background internet of things security is terrible.

They all sell their (your) data and you pay for it! Awesome business model but no thanks.

do you have a combination camera / software setup for setting your own CC security system with an app that's accessible over VPN? e-mail / sms / app notifications would be nice.

Basically everything one of these IOT systems do but the data and software says on the home server.

Who rolls their own on something like this? I mean you can, but 0.00001% of people do. The buy blink or ring or whatever and put it on their front door and pay the subscription fee, install the app on their phone and send that data out into the world.


if you're concerned about privacy that's kinda the point though. My BIL has an arlo system with cameras inside and out that was hacked.

Also I gotta fill my nas with something other than porn.
 
2022-08-06 12:54:41 PM  
Neighbor has Ring since they do shift work and sleep at odd times. I'll have to ask how they like it. Their camera faces our front step, so we get a small amount of surveillance for free. As mentioned above, any system you use is going to be doing whatever they please with your data. This is why we've avoided it so far. I'd rather have a dog.
 
2022-08-06 1:00:11 PM  

Wendigogo: Neighbor has Ring since they do shift work and sleep at odd times. I'll have to ask how they like it. Their camera faces our front step, so we get a small amount of surveillance for free. As mentioned above, any system you use is going to be doing whatever they please with your data. This is why we've avoided it so far. I'd rather have a dog.


I'll never get Ring. They've handed footage off to cops without needing a warrant.
 
2022-08-06 1:04:30 PM  
I have a Ring doorbell. It works fine, I can communicate with whomever is at my door when I'm not home, it records automatically, and it just works.

I work in IT, and frankly, I don't give a shiat if Amazon sells my data. I don't do anything nefarious, and I am far more concerned with spammers and hackers than with what legitimate companies do with the info they gather.
 
2022-08-06 1:05:25 PM  

ltnor: I've been looking at Blink but I'm not sold on it. Any recommendations or reviews on what you are using would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.


The issue I have with Blink is you can't put a mini-sd card in it and get continual video recording.  I can do that with Wyze. Clips are limited in length, but I can go back to my cams and bring up video from any time to review it at length.
 
2022-08-06 1:20:36 PM  
I have one of these:

https://amcrest.com/2mp-wifi-camera-pan-tilt-ip2m-841b-v3.html

The model I have is completely non-cloud.  Can store video and data on a local memory card or over network to a NAS.  Has a built in web server to look, or you can use an app on an android (just have to know the IP address to see it, but if you have a router with DDNS this is trivial).  Can do motion detection, audio, zones....video and/or jpgs, remote tilt.
 
2022-08-06 1:23:33 PM  

Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]


Yeah, but you go through a lot of whipped cream to keep them foaming at the mouth.
 
2022-08-06 1:28:46 PM  
I do lots of testing as part of my work, I have Blink, Ring, Arlo and Wyze.

Blink is good for spots where you can't wire, but it's bad at motion detection sensitivity.  Setting it too sensitive will have insects trigger it, set too low and it misses the car. I have lots of videos of the delivery guy leaving. It doesn't have lots of storage options either.

Arlo is pretty good.  A little more expensive but it does have more options. It needs a power source to really be effective. Most models let you expand storage at the hub. It's not a bad choice, especially if you have other home automation.

Ring doorbell is a mix, it's tied to Amazon and works with Alexa, but sometimes it just doesn't work well. I have occasionally missed a person and they had to ring twice. That might be the app or the network, it's hard to tell. No local storage unfortunately.

Wyze is quite good with their feature and price range.  You can put sdcards in most of them and they integrate with home automation systems. My biggest issue is that they occasionally need to be rebooted.

If you are just getting started and want to try something inexpensive, Wyze. If you want something more fancy, polished, and expensive, Ring.
 
2022-08-06 1:43:45 PM  

IgG4: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Dogs are the best really.



plus you don't have to change batteries.
 
2022-08-06 2:19:48 PM  
I have a Ring doorbell, can be wired in. Also has battery in case power goes out. Can use it with just battery only. Have spare battery, so switch it about monthly, when they send low battery warning. I love it .
 
2022-08-06 2:43:40 PM  

alexxia: I have a Ring doorbell, can be wired in. Also has battery in case power goes out. Can use it with just battery only. Have spare battery, so switch it about monthly, when they send low battery warning. I love it .


Hmmm...username rather suspect... o_o
 
2022-08-06 2:45:38 PM  

Wendigogo: alexxia: I have a Ring doorbell, can be wired in. Also has battery in case power goes out. Can use it with just battery only. Have spare battery, so switch it about monthly, when they send low battery warning. I love it .

Hmmm...username rather suspect... o_o


Lol. It took awhile to figure out your comment. I've been alexxia for 25 years, but good one! 😹
 
2022-08-06 2:51:23 PM  

alexxia: Wendigogo: alexxia: I have a Ring doorbell, can be wired in. Also has battery in case power goes out. Can use it with just battery only. Have spare battery, so switch it about monthly, when they send low battery warning. I love it .

Hmmm...username rather suspect... o_o

Lol. It took awhile to figure out your comment. I've been alexxia for 25 years, but good one! 😹


My son and I loved Lexx, the movies, btw. Still laughing at your comment, thank you!
 
2022-08-06 3:07:54 PM  

alexxia: alexxia: Wendigogo: alexxia: I have a Ring doorbell, can be wired in. Also has battery in case power goes out. Can use it with just battery only. Have spare battery, so switch it about monthly, when they send low battery warning. I love it .

Hmmm...username rather suspect... o_o

Lol. It took awhile to figure out your comment. I've been alexxia for 25 years, but good one! 😹

My son and I loved Lexx, the movies, btw. Still laughing at your comment, thank you!


Welcome! I assumed the name had no relation, couldn't resist making the reference.😄
 
2022-08-06 3:17:42 PM  
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2022-08-06 3:32:18 PM  
Ubiquiti
 
2022-08-06 3:59:40 PM  
ZoneMinder, Home Assistant, Frigate, random cameras.

/Don't do this unless you have a lot of spare time.
 
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2022-08-06 4:15:27 PM  
I just use a pair of binoculars to spy on my next door neighbor while they are changing. I do it naked and with the blinds up so it's not so one sided. They can spy on me too if they wish.
 
2022-08-06 4:36:16 PM  
I have a Ring doorbell and a Blink camera inside the house so I can see what the dogs are up to when I'm not home. The Ring works fine. I pay the small fee for the storage, and it just works. My only complaint is that there is often an annoying delay between detecting a visitor and showing me the video. I want to se who is out there with out getting up off the couch.
 
2022-08-06 4:53:19 PM  
I have some experience with a "wire free" system from Night Owl: https://nightowlsp.com/product/wire-free.html

I can't say I recommend it, but it works stand-alone without needing to be connected to the Internet or even a local router. The IP cameras are battery powered, and there is an option for a doorbell, as well as an IP camera that uses wall power instead of batteries.

The image quality of the IP cameras kinda sucks, with visible blockiness/compression artifacts. Also, I've found the motion detection to be inconsistent. This is important, because by default, the only automatic recording is in response to a motion alert. This also means that the images on the camera monitor typically aren't live - the last recorded image is displayed. However, there is a "play" icon that can be used to trigger the camera manually and get a live look and recording.

There is an app, too, but I haven't tested it, because fark that.
 
2022-08-06 5:18:26 PM  
we pay a local homeless guy to sit on our front door stoop with a Polaroid camera. he gets to take a break when the landscaper stops by. he gets all the water he wants from the hose. I gave him a Tablet I got off eBay, it's on wi-fi and he watches soap operas on Menudo. when we have company my wife has him dress formal and hold a lamp near the driveway. guests are delighted!
 
2022-08-06 5:35:13 PM  

Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]


He's still got the last security threat pinned down.
 
2022-08-06 6:03:13 PM  

IgG4: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Dogs are the best really.


You need at least two: a small nervous one to sound the alarm and a large smiling one to look out the window.
 
2022-08-06 6:04:48 PM  
the eufy stuff works fine, does not require any "cloud" storage, is reasonably priced for the market segment
 
2022-08-06 6:05:50 PM  

IgG4: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Dogs are the best really.


The DOG is the most expensive system.  I really like pets and I am sure they work well but software can be glitchy, Internet access is non existent and if you leave home for any extended time you should take the DOG unit with you.
 
2022-08-06 6:12:41 PM  
Been running Arlo cameras for 4+ years. Work reasonably well, so long as you have power to the cameras. Would like to have a little longer range (we're on 110 acres, and I'd like to have one further down the driveway), but overall I'm quite happy with the system.
 
2022-08-06 6:23:52 PM  
Install one of those 100-year old lawn jockeys .  Soon you'll have all kinds of people milling around, taking pictures.  Burglar would be crazy to try anything.  Probably pick one up pretty cheap, too.
 
2022-08-06 8:42:49 PM  

thesubliminalman: IgG4: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Dogs are the best really.

The DOG is the most expensive system.  I really like pets and I am sure they work well but software can be glitchy, Internet access is non existent and if you leave home for any extended time you should take the DOG unit with you.


The loyalty and the fact that they would never spill any secrets is invaluable.
 
2022-08-06 8:44:07 PM  

vudukungfu: Dog


It's difficult to retrieve stored data files from dog.

And cameras never shiat on the floor.
 
2022-08-06 8:52:27 PM  

Lee451: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Yeah, but you go through a lot of whipped cream to keep them foaming at the mouth.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2022-08-06 9:33:44 PM  

ElPrimitivo: vudukungfu: Dog

It's difficult to retrieve stored data files from dog.

And cameras never shiat on the floor.


Yeah, but if you aren't sure if the lunch meat is safe to eat, you can always ...
....
....
Run it through the lab.
 
2022-08-06 10:04:46 PM  

Billy Liar: Install one of those 100-year old lawn jockeys .  Soon you'll have all kinds of people milling around, taking pictures.  Burglar would be crazy to try anything.  Probably pick one up pretty cheap, too.


All of the ash trees in our neighborhood are dead from EAB. Leave a 6 ft. stump, and have a chainsaw artist carve something from it. It appears that I have the only ash in at least a 6 block radius that still has leaves. Because I have had it treated for EAB for the last 6 years, as soon as I heard it had made it into the county.
This year, the chainsaws and industrial woodchippers have been running nonstop. Last year it was a few, and this year it is pretty much all of them. Like when Dutch Elm Disease took out all of the boulevard trees in the city.
Is honeylocust disease/pest resistant up here in the north?
 
2022-08-06 10:10:21 PM  
If you want to avoid having your camera info mined try using old cell phones.  Just Google it.  It doesn't look difficult.
 
2022-08-06 11:44:18 PM  
Ring doorbell and Ring battery security cam with solar panel.  Works well. Set the doorbell to talk. Good for scaring the Hello Fresh guy.
Ring doorbell scared the Hello Fresh guy
Youtube 3L5Zr4iSbGY
 
2022-08-06 11:48:36 PM  
Also Chicago is paying for the solar camera and a year of their multicam service.  I think only Chicago and Atlanta are giving rebates at the moment.
 
2022-08-07 7:16:17 AM  
I have a wired Eufy doorbell and wireless cameras. No subscription required. For the price and ease it works well. Eufy has an app that provides alerts and you can download videos. Bought them all on Amazon.

When you first set up the cameras you will need to spend a little time with the settings so you don't get too many false alerts.

I ended up using one of my cameras as a critter cam so I can see who's been digging in my yard at night. Lots of raccoons is the answer.
 
2022-08-07 11:22:14 AM  

Peki: Wendigogo: Neighbor has Ring since they do shift work and sleep at odd times. I'll have to ask how they like it. Their camera faces our front step, so we get a small amount of surveillance for free. As mentioned above, any system you use is going to be doing whatever they please with your data. This is why we've avoided it so far. I'd rather have a dog.

I'll never get Ring. They've handed footage off to cops without needing a warrant.


BS. They are subject to the same laws and policies as anyone else.

And you can choose to share or not within the settings of the Ring app.

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2022-08-07 11:22:35 AM  

Dinki: I have a Ring doorbell. It works fine, I can communicate with whomever is at my door when I'm not home, it records automatically, and it just works.

I work in IT, and frankly, I don't give a shiat if Amazon sells my data. I don't do anything nefarious, and I am far more concerned with spammers and hackers than with what legitimate companies do with the info they gather.


Ditto.
 
2022-08-07 11:24:25 AM  

elvisaintdead: IgG4: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Dogs are the best really.


plus you don't have to change batteries.


I'd rather recharge my batteries once a month than have to take my doorbell outside multiple times a day to take a dump.
 
2022-08-07 11:58:48 AM  

LZeitgeist: elvisaintdead: IgG4: Man On A Mission: vudukungfu: Dog

This guy works really well for both security and alerting me when anything is even near the front door.

[dobermanplanet.com image 850x566]

Dogs are the best really.


plus you don't have to change batteries.

I'd rather recharge my batteries once a month than have to take my doorbell outside multiple times a day to take a dump.


After more testing, Blink, Ring, Arlo and Wyze all failed to return the ball when playing fetch.

Ring, however, did get worked up when the mailman arrived.
 
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