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(WDBO Orlando)   Delta airlines flight narrowly misses drone - "8 feet from windshield" - on approach to Orlando International Airport. Florida man wanted for questioning. ATC audio attached   (wdbo.com) divider line
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2349 clicks; posted to Main » on 05 Aug 2022 at 7:30 PM (8 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-05 7:22:04 PM  
Let's hope it's not the cops again, giving drone pilots a bad name.  Nobody in their right mind flies a drone over 400 feet.
 
2022-08-05 7:32:17 PM  
Oooh. Where exactly? Most of Orlando is drone excluded between the airports and DW.
 
2022-08-05 7:37:24 PM  
"Your Amazon package has arrived."
 
2022-08-05 7:38:32 PM  
The audio doesn't appear to work on mobile devices. I just get the current live show.
 
2022-08-05 7:40:41 PM  
You can dodge a goose, you can dodge a drone
 
2022-08-05 7:45:26 PM  
2,000ft alt, in an airport approach area... yeah, the FAA *really* wants to talk to that idiot drone operator, as does a Federal prosecutor. It is restricted airspace for a reason. If this had happened in the DC area, the Secret Service would be demanding to know just which idiot was flying that drone, so they could charge him with endangering the life of the President.
 
2022-08-05 7:47:02 PM  
Might be a new market for plane dashcams?
 
2022-08-05 7:51:22 PM  

ClavellBCMI: If this had happened in the DC area,


Or any river valley going into DC.  Those places are 24/7 you're going to need an attorney zones.
 
2022-08-05 7:54:21 PM  

HighlanderRPI: You can dodge a goose, you can dodge a drone


Captain Sully would like to comment on this dodging a goose thing.
 
2022-08-05 8:21:34 PM  

HighlanderRPI: You can dodge a goose, you can dodge a drone


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/understood that reference
 
2022-08-05 8:32:01 PM  
where's the atc audio?
 
2022-08-05 8:32:50 PM  

flucto: where's the atc audio?


Seriously.
 
2022-08-05 8:47:58 PM  

flucto: where's the atc audio?


Have to access via a laptop or desktop computer. Won't work on your phone.
 
2022-08-05 8:49:19 PM  

indy_kid: flucto: where's the atc audio?

Have to access via a laptop or desktop computer. Won't work on your phone.


I tried in all three browsers on my laptop and there was no link. Shrug.
 
2022-08-05 9:00:10 PM  

ClavellBCMI: 2,000ft alt, in an airport approach area... yeah, the FAA *really* wants to talk to that idiot drone operator, as does a Federal prosecutor. It is restricted airspace for a reason. If this had happened in the DC area, the Secret Service would be demanding to know just which idiot was flying that drone, so they could charge him with endangering the life of the President.


Nah. They'd just delete all trace of it from their records. Nothing To See Here!...
 
2022-08-05 9:05:56 PM  
VAS Aviation (YouTube) will probably have the audio up soon. Their captures of pilots spotting "jet pack guy" over LAX were entertaining.
 
2022-08-05 9:24:27 PM  

SplittingAces: VAS Aviation (YouTube) will probably have the audio up soon. Their captures of pilots spotting "jet pack guy" over LAX were entertaining.


LiveATC.net doesn't have it in "interesting recordings" yet but they will shortly I'm sure.
 
2022-08-05 10:04:50 PM  
The pilot spotted a drone 8 feet from his plane as he went by it at 150 mph? Good eyes captain.
 
2022-08-05 10:15:21 PM  
The variety of drones is getting to be where we need classifiers. Fixed-wing/rotor, commercial/military/enthusiast, etc.

NakedApe: The pilot spotted a drone 8 feet from his plane as he went by it at 150 mph? Good eyes captain.


It all happens in slow motions up there. You know nothing of the pilots' code.
 
2022-08-05 10:17:22 PM  

vestona22: HighlanderRPI: You can dodge a goose, you can dodge a drone

Captain Sully would like to comment on this dodging a goose thing.


I'm sure he missed the first goose.  It was the other several dozen that were the problem....
 
2022-08-05 10:24:01 PM  
RC aircraft are just as bad, even decades ago.   A club operated them on the inactive northeast pad at R-G AFB near Kansas City when I was there in the '80s.   They lost visual of one such aircraft, which was about 8 feet long.  It crashed into a parked A-10.   The owner came into Base Ops and asked if anyone had seen his RC aircraft.   Hilarity ensued.
 
2022-08-05 11:57:02 PM  
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2022-08-06 12:16:15 AM  

Stud Gerbil: RC aircraft are just as bad, even decades ago.   A club operated them on the inactive northeast pad at R-G AFB near Kansas City when I was there in the '80s.   They lost visual of one such aircraft, which was about 8 feet long.  It crashed into a parked A-10.   The owner came into Base Ops and asked if anyone had seen his RC aircraft.   Hilarity ensued.


Don't stop there. Continue the story...

ClavellBCMI: 2,000ft alt, in an airport approach area... yeah, the FAA *really* wants to talk to that idiot drone operator, as does a Federal prosecutor. It is restricted airspace for a reason. If this had happened in the DC area, the Secret Service would be demanding to know just which idiot was flying that drone, so they could charge him with endangering the life of the President.


People who fly drones around an airport should be stripped naked, locked in stocks, tarred, feathered and then be whipped by random members of the public who happen to be walking by.
 
2022-08-06 1:16:05 AM  

khatores: Stud Gerbil: RC aircraft are just as bad, even decades ago.   A club operated them on the inactive northeast pad at R-G AFB near Kansas City when I was there in the '80s.   They lost visual of one such aircraft, which was about 8 feet long.  It crashed into a parked A-10.   The owner came into Base Ops and asked if anyone had seen his RC aircraft.   Hilarity ensued.

Don't stop there. Continue the story...

ClavellBCMI: 2,000ft alt, in an airport approach area... yeah, the FAA *really* wants to talk to that idiot drone operator, as does a Federal prosecutor. It is restricted airspace for a reason. If this had happened in the DC area, the Secret Service would be demanding to know just which idiot was flying that drone, so they could charge him with endangering the life of the President.

People who fly drones around an airport should be stripped naked, locked in stocks, tarred, feathered and then be whipped by random members of the public who happen to be walking by.


Agreed.

/Part 107 FAA remote pilot as well as an actual general aviation pilot.
 
2022-08-06 1:17:24 AM  

khatores: Stud Gerbil: RC aircraft are just as bad, even decades ago.   A club operated them on the inactive northeast pad at R-G AFB near Kansas City when I was there in the '80s.   They lost visual of one such aircraft, which was about 8 feet long.  It crashed into a parked A-10.   The owner came into Base Ops and asked if anyone had seen his RC aircraft.   Hilarity ensued.

Don't stop there. Continue the story...

ClavellBCMI: 2,000ft alt, in an airport approach area... yeah, the FAA *really* wants to talk to that idiot drone operator, as does a Federal prosecutor. It is restricted airspace for a reason. If this had happened in the DC area, the Secret Service would be demanding to know just which idiot was flying that drone, so they could charge him with endangering the life of the President.

People who fly drones around an airport should be stripped naked, locked in stocks, tarred, feathered and then be whipped by random members of the public who happen to be walking by.


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2022-08-06 1:38:43 AM  
The last time I checked the regs for RC flight, its a 400 foot max altitude limit in open sky, without first talking to ATC for a clearance, and under 200 feet high within 2 miles of any airport, and not at all within one mile of an airport, and you shouldn't be anywhere near an approach corridor at -any- height.

I got into RC planes in the 80s, am slowly getting back into it since retirement. Most of the RC plane guys are serious hobbyist-modelers, very much in love with full-scale aviation and thus they respect it and don't fly in a way to jeopardize anything.  Yet in every crowd there are one or two yahoos who don't get it. RC clubs, which own a plot of land to fly over,  tend to  train or weed these guys out and oust them if they don't fly right, so that's more than likely a "lone wolf" kind of person who is flying independently outside of a club, at heights like in the article, or a total noob who just got what they consider a "toy", sold to them by unscrupulous sources, and doesn't know the rules or doesn't care because, fark you, they are solipsist man-children.

I have mixed feelings about drones: their development helped spark some great advancements in the hobby, but most of the problems in RC these days are in some way because of them, and their existence and evolution got business interests involved to try and profit off drones commercially, which has screwed up the old RC ecosystem all to hell. The hobbyists thru the AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics) had worked hand in glove with the FAA and FCC since the nineteen forties to create and enforce well-regulated, coordinated and responsible usage of airspace and radio frequencies, and everyone was happy for decades.  Then Amazon and etc. came in with dreams of drone delivery services for big money, and basically bought and lobbied the airspace out from under the hobby folks, creating a bunch of new regulations and restrictions really aimed at the drone hobby - but dragging the fixed-wing modelers along in it's wake. If your model is a little bit bigger than a dollar store foam hand-toss glider, now it will be legally restricted to a very few spots to fly, way out in the boonies, and it has to have a license, ID info on board, an active transponder linked to a GPS and cell phone to register it with air traffic control, every time it goes up. The radio control unit won't activate unless it gets a clearance via the cell phone network.  The last time I checked around my home for legal  places to fly in full compliance, the potential spots were a good hour or more drive into the farm country.   So I farking hate outdoor drones for creating these problems and restrictions.  The number of legal flying sites has dwindled and withered between encroachment of land developers and these drone-provoked regulations.   Then some random arsehole like the guy in the article adds to the mess.
 
2022-08-06 5:00:03 AM  

Any Pie Left: The last time I checked the regs for RC flight, its a 400 foot max altitude limit in open sky, without first talking to ATC for a clearance, and under 200 feet high within 2 miles of any airport, and not at all within one mile of an airport, and you shouldn't be anywhere near an approach corridor at -any- height.


Which to anyone familiar with the area, should block out a good part of Orlando altogether, since it's barely 5 miles between Orlando International and Orlando Executive.  I've heard that Orlando Executive is one of the best places to learn to fly, because you'll get plenty of time on the radio between the two airports.
 
2022-08-06 7:36:37 AM  

cgremlin: Any Pie Left: The last time I checked the regs for RC flight, its a 400 foot max altitude limit in open sky, without first talking to ATC for a clearance, and under 200 feet high within 2 miles of any airport, and not at all within one mile of an airport, and you shouldn't be anywhere near an approach corridor at -any- height.

Which to anyone familiar with the area, should block out a good part of Orlando altogether, since it's barely 5 miles between Orlando International and Orlando Executive.  I've heard that Orlando Executive is one of the best places to learn to fly, because you'll get plenty of time on the radio between the two airports.


Because talking on the radio is the most important part of flying. You know that because most plane accidents are caused by failure to properly talk on the radio.

/hint. The actual piloting ability of the average private pilot is much lower than most people would believe.  But your point about radio work is probably correct.
 
2022-08-06 7:44:09 AM  

HighlanderRPI: You can dodge a goose, you can dodge a drone


You don't dodge anything on a stabilized approach.  You do and it's an automatic go around assuming nothing bad happens while you're doing it.
 
2022-08-06 8:17:43 AM  
khatores:
People who fly drones around an airport should be stripped naked, locked in stocks, tarred, feathered and then be whipped by random members of the public who happen to be walking by.

Go on....
 
2022-08-06 9:31:47 AM  

Stud Gerbil: RC aircraft are just as bad, even decades ago.   A club operated them on the inactive northeast pad at R-G AFB near Kansas City when I was there in the '80s.   They lost visual of one such aircraft, which was about 8 feet long.  It crashed into a parked A-10.   The owner came into Base Ops and asked if anyone had seen his RC aircraft.   Hilarity ensued.


Really, which tail number was it?  I'd be interested to know.
 
2022-08-06 11:18:49 AM  
They need to find this asshole and make an example of him. Ten years in the clink, and advertise it.
 
2022-08-06 11:54:27 AM  
Not CSB:

This is happening more frequently at higher altitudes. June 2021 we flew over a drone at 4000' in the practice area swamps/farms between Lake Okeechobee and FXE airport. It looked like a tire sideways in the air. We were practicing maneuvers with one engine deliberately shut down and were completing a slow 180 degree turn.

We reported it to the ground controller after we landed and they filed a report for us. The chief pilot also had to fill out paperwork too.
 
2022-08-06 1:08:33 PM  
A-holes like that give people like me who follow the laws & regulations regarding operating UAV's a bad
name.  There is a reason they are restricted to 400 ft  AGL and most fixed wing are restricted to a "minimum"
of 600 ft AGL.  That nice 200 feet space is some breathing room.
I'm not so much concerned striking or interfering with fixed wing, as I am EMT helicopters.  If people would
use a little COMMON SENSE these things wouldn't happen.  There are apps that allow you to know where
all the aircraft (except for a lot of military aircraft for obvious reasons) are.  Those helicopters can pop up
anywhere.

It's a shame people do crap like this.  Just causes more restrictions for those of us that use these UAV's for
photography purposes.
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2022-08-06 1:14:27 PM  

Another Government Employee: Oooh. Where exactly? Most of Orlando is drone excluded between the airports and DW.


No. The MCO arrival corridors are covered but they're north-south of the airport. Disney world is covered, but only their property. There's a lot of room between them, including most of the City of Orlando.

Flying under 400' AGL, you're fine. Flying at 2000'  on the approach is flying in the Class B. That's nowhere near fine.
 
2022-08-06 2:19:35 PM  
One day an idiot is going to hit a plane causing it to crash. Then cry on TV "I didn't know it would happen".
 
2022-08-07 2:27:49 AM  

dj_bigbird: khatores:
People who fly drones around an airport should be stripped naked, locked in stocks, tarred, feathered and then be whipped by random members of the public who happen to be walking by.

Go on....


It gets kinky after that.
 
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