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2022-08-05 4:27:19 PM  
Still, 3rd lunch period has never behaved better...
 
2022-08-05 5:29:37 PM  
That sound you hear is the NRA fapping furiously.  Guns AND kids is their ultimate wet dream
 
2022-08-05 5:30:24 PM  
Yes, let's put a f*cking armory inside of the kind of place which is frequently targeted by mass shooters. What can possibly go wrong?
 
2022-08-05 5:30:27 PM  
Jeebus that's f*cked up. What a shiat hole.
 
2022-08-05 5:30:37 PM  
Back up ONE?! Look, you might have gotten a tiny smile if you hadn't ruined the joke by starting off with "qualified teachers". Keep your stupid fairy tales to yourself.
 
2022-08-05 5:31:43 PM  
This will last until a kid breaks into the farking locker and uses the weapons to shoot up the school.
 
2022-08-05 5:31:58 PM  
That way, the school shooters can just borrow them from the school instead of buying their own.
 
2022-08-05 5:32:38 PM  

Knautilus: This will last until a kid breaks into the farking locker and uses the weapons to shoot up the school.


Maybe the staff can sell them to cover the budget shortfalls their purchase caused?
 
2022-08-05 5:33:21 PM  

Knautilus: This will last until a kid breaks into the farking locker and uses the weapons to shoot up the school.


Feature, not a bug
 
2022-08-05 5:34:29 PM  
What was radical, once...
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2022-08-05 5:35:11 PM  
If I was a teacher and an active shooter situation occurred, I'd grab one of those weapons and use it to escape. Why would I get into a firefight? I'm a farming teacher.
 
2022-08-05 5:35:17 PM  
The nice thing is this funnels money from education into the arms industry. Win-win!
 
2022-08-05 5:35:33 PM  

Knautilus: This will last until a kid breaks into the farking locker and uses the weapons to shoot up the school.


And they'll have access to breaching tools to force their way into an otherwise secure classroom.

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2022-08-05 5:36:59 PM  
I'm waiting for someone to break into the gun lockers and use them to kill everyone in sight.

Come on, there's a fark thread about a cop in a training session pulling a handgun and shooting another cop. What *possible* reason would I have to believe one word any of you gun nuts say about how good you are?
 
2022-08-05 5:38:23 PM  
They already put the most ridiculous stuff in the middle of the night last night.

I think the winner is the belt sander races.

And the cutest sport obviously the corgi races.
 
2022-08-05 5:39:08 PM  

whitroth: What *possible* reason would I have to believe one word any of you gun nuts say about how good you are?


Nobody gives a shiat what you believe.

We won.
 
2022-08-05 5:41:57 PM  
"I do not want to have to run back out to the car to grab an AR, because that's time lost."

JFC. I don't want to have to run out to my car with a super privileged parking place to get my gun, instead I want to have to run to some other arbitrary place and get my gun.

I guess this makes sense, if the sro makes it to the car the temptation to just keep going would be pretty strong.
 
2022-08-05 5:45:47 PM  
I'm about to retire from the Army and I feel like I know a BIT about weapons. I have absolutely no idea why, "we carry 9mm, 135 (or whatever) grain" is a sentence that anyone would ever utter.

These gun fetishist thinks that knowing every detail about guns makes you a warrior. And it doesn't.

If your defensive plan involves literally loading up a bunch of guns in the area you might need them, then you should spend less time going to the range and probably open up a Ranger Handbook. The amount of...grains or whatever...is suspiciously absent, however it does tell you how to clear a room. You WILL have to actually go in the room though....
 
2022-08-05 5:58:52 PM  
"Those officers were in that building for so long, and that suspect was able to infiltrate that building and injure and kill so many kids," Sheriff Buddy Harwood said. "I just want to make sure my deputies are prepared in the event that happens."

DO YOUR FARKING JOBS GODAMMNIT.

Sheriff buddy
 
2022-08-05 6:00:09 PM  
I've already posted but there's more I want to say.

This isn't just "security theatre" it's terrible farking security theatre. Security features designed to very specifically stop a previous attack are theatre.

Are parents supposed to relax knowing that an AR-15 (which is discussed as if it autonomously kills bad guys) is in the building with the kids? FOUR hundred officers were present at UVALDE with all manner of gear and it still didn't help.

I'm sure the presence of an unarmed man (or woman) known to not be a coward would be of much greater comfort to the parents.
 
2022-08-05 6:01:42 PM  

WillJM8528: I'm about to retire from the Army and I feel like I know a BIT about weapons. I have absolutely no idea why, "we carry 9mm, 135 (or whatever) grain" is a sentence that anyone would ever utter.

These gun fetishist thinks that knowing every detail about guns makes you a warrior. And it doesn't.

If your defensive plan involves literally loading up a bunch of guns in the area you might need them, then you should spend less time going to the range and probably open up a Ranger Handbook. The amount of...grains or whatever...is suspiciously absent, however it does tell you how to clear a room. You WILL have to actually go in the room though....


Since you seen to be a sane, kind, and thoughtful individual, may I be the first to offer my most heartfelt condolences for the years, sweat, and stress you put into attempting to serve this supposed nation?

/Is there an option where we give the CCP the United States in exchange for them recognizing Taiwan as independent?
//The CCP is far better than we deserve at this point
///Thank you for your service; I just wish it was to a better nation and cause
 
2022-08-05 6:01:49 PM  
"Those officers were in that building for so long, and that suspect was able to infiltrate that building and injure and kill so many kids," Sheriff Buddy Harwood said. "I just want to make sure my deputies are prepared in the event that happens."

DO YOUR FARKING JOBS GODAMMNIT.

Sheriff buddy
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2022-08-05 6:04:14 PM  
The Madison County Board of Commissioners approved increasing the starting pay of a deputy from $15.50 an hour to $18.25, or $41,664 a year including benefits.

Ya, ar15s
 
2022-08-05 6:08:24 PM  
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2022-08-05 6:08:28 PM  
The bridges of Madison County have guns mounted on them...
 
2022-08-05 6:11:00 PM  
Free lunches in school? No way!
Free AR-15s in school? NOW YOU'RE TALKING
 
2022-08-05 6:14:19 PM  
In a civilized country kids wouldn't have to worry about such things.  All we are doing is traumatizing another generation to live in constant fear.
 
2022-08-05 6:14:21 PM  

Knautilus: This will last until a kid breaks into the farking locker and uses the weapons to shoot up the school.


came in here for mostly^this. like, have they ever even *met* kids??? those things are so unholy-clever and tbh some of them would open a gun-locker just for larfs. or at least I would have.

but no, let's store deadly weapons in a place where people like to come with deadly weapons.
 
2022-08-05 6:15:22 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Free lunches in school? No way!
Free AR-15s in school? NOW YOU'RE TALKING


hay! no assault rifles for thems LGBTQ kids, I ain't pay my tax monies for that sort of nonsense!
 
2022-08-05 6:15:50 PM  

Boo_Guy: Knautilus: This will last until a kid breaks into the farking locker and uses the weapons to shoot up the school.

And they'll have access to breaching tools to force their way into an otherwise secure classroom.

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Phht.  That's when the phys-ed substitute teacher sets off the mini-nuke self destruct in the basement.
 
2022-08-05 6:16:45 PM  
How are parents okay with this? How are they not marching in the streets along with their children?
 
2022-08-05 6:17:11 PM  
gawdamwit, there is so much fail here

saddest part: "Harwood said he feels while the optics of the SROs potentially handling AR-15s in schools may be discomforting to some, it is a necessary response given the state of the country."

it is absolutely the wrong response.

next saddest part: "If my parents, as a whole, want me to stand at that door with that AR strapped around that officer's neck, then I'm going to do whatever my parents want as a whole to keep our kids safe."

"my parents" is an odd phrase of ownership here.

Also, as a parent, most parents are idiots as to what it takes to run a school.  This will quickly devolve into any parent being able to stand in a classroom armed as a "volunteer SRO"
 
2022-08-05 6:18:54 PM  
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2022-08-05 6:21:00 PM  

King Something: Yes, let's put a f*cking armory inside of the kind of place which is frequently targeted by mass shooters. What can possibly go wrong?


wait wait wait, We thought of that. It is in a safe, which starts to sound like an odd name for the locking device.

See the problem was I may need to run back out of the school to my cruiser to get a breaching device. Granted, I should be able to call on dispatch for someone else to bring theirs with them, as there should be more than one unit responding, but that assumes too much.

Instead of running to my cruiser outside, I randomly run thru the school trying to find the safe. spend time finding the key/combo to open said safe, then run back to the classroom.

totally more efficient.
 
2022-08-05 6:25:44 PM  
There's no way this doesn't end badly.
 
2022-08-05 6:27:38 PM  

Hyjamon: King Something: Yes, let's put a f*cking armory inside of the kind of place which is frequently targeted by mass shooters. What can possibly go wrong?

wait wait wait, We thought of that. It is in a safe, which starts to sound like an odd name for the locking device.

See the problem was I may need to run back out of the school to my cruiser to get a breaching device. Granted, I should be able to call on dispatch for someone else to bring theirs with them, as there should be more than one unit responding, but that assumes too much.

Instead of running to my cruiser outside, I randomly run thru the school trying to find the safe. spend time finding the key/combo to open said safe, then run back to the classroom.

totally more efficient.


Not nearly as stupid as the proposal itself, son.
 
2022-08-05 6:27:46 PM  

austerity101: How are parents okay with this? How are they not marching in the streets along with their children?


Look at the local school board candidates...notice a theme?

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/madison/2022/04/22/madison-school-board-candidates-share-their-views-primary-may-17/7371023001/
 
2022-08-05 6:28:43 PM  
It's very nice of them to make the next shooter's job easier, now he doesn't need to worry about acquiring an AR-15!  Just something that can force open a gun locker and, bam, all the AR-15s he could want.
 
2022-08-05 6:36:41 PM  
We need kill droids.  Inject friend or foe transceivers into the students and authorized adults.  Have the kill droids kill anything that moves that doesnt have the friendly deignation.
 
2022-08-05 6:37:54 PM  
yeah, we could have all that but the football team needs a new stadium
 
2022-08-05 6:38:15 PM  
I started working at a new school, a bilingual charter school, this week.  I will be teaching middle school science.

One of the reasons I chose the school is that there is one entry point during the school day that a person will have to enter, be identified, and obtain approval before entering the campus.  I once worked at a school with numerous unsecured entry points.  The school was a block away from an hospital ER where confused, mentally ill people often wander from.  Like the naked, screaming man some other teachers encountered one day.

I'm not a cop or a soldier and I'm glad no one has suggested to me that I should be packing at work.
 
2022-08-05 6:44:46 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I started working at a new school, a bilingual charter school, this week.  I will be teaching middle school science.

One of the reasons I chose the school is that there is one entry point during the school day that a person will have to enter, be identified, and obtain approval before entering the campus.  I once worked at a school with numerous unsecured entry points.  The school was a block away from an hospital ER where confused, mentally ill people often wander from.  Like the naked, screaming man some other teachers encountered one day.

I'm not a cop or a soldier and I'm glad no one has suggested to me that I should be packing at work.


I have you farkied as "teaches in jail" which says a lot about the other place you mention.
 
2022-08-05 6:46:07 PM  

aerojockey: It's very nice of them to make the next shooter's job easier, now he doesn't need to worry about acquiring an AR-15!  Just something that can force open a gun locker and, bam, all the AR-15s he could want.


There's no need for that. They can just walk in empty-handed. Everything they could want is provided on-site.

"We were able to put an AR-15 rifle and safe in all of our schools in the county," Harwood said. "We've also got breaching tools to go into those safes. We've got extra magazines with ammo in those safes."
 
2022-08-05 6:55:39 PM  

aerojockey: It's very nice of them to make the next shooter's job easier, now he doesn't need to worry about acquiring an AR-15!  Just something that can force open a gun locker and, bam, all the AR-15s he could want.


School shooter foiled when their rampage is prevented by an already empty case.

/Cop with extra $1500 seen not giving a fark.
 
2022-08-05 6:57:20 PM  

Magnanimous_J: whitroth: What *possible* reason would I have to believe one word any of you gun nuts say about how good you are?

Nobody gives a shiat what you believe.

We won.


there are no winners, only losers.
 
2022-08-05 6:58:05 PM  

Hyjamon: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I started working at a new school, a bilingual charter school, this week.  I will be teaching middle school science.

One of the reasons I chose the school is that there is one entry point during the school day that a person will have to enter, be identified, and obtain approval before entering the campus.  I once worked at a school with numerous unsecured entry points.  The school was a block away from an hospital ER where confused, mentally ill people often wander from.  Like the naked, screaming man some other teachers encountered one day.

I'm not a cop or a soldier and I'm glad no one has suggested to me that I should be packing at work.

I have you farkied as "teaches in jail" which says a lot about the other place you mention.


I resigned from the jail teaching job in May.  I lost count of how many times the place was locked down due to covid outbreaks.  They called in the National Guard to staff at one point, declared a state of emergency in June, and there was a ransomware attack that knocked out the cameras throughout the facility.  There was a suicide that went unnoticed all night due to no staff, an inmate murdered his cellmate and the body again sat all night.  Some of my students heard the murder taking place on their pod and no one could do anything but listen to it.

About a week after I resigned, another teacher was splashed with blood when a stabbing occurred at the table next to them. We were expected to be in general population teaching.  If we were lucky, we got to work with students in a little conference room, often with no table or chairs.

The captain of the COs told a journalist that the place is ripe for a riot.

The only good thing that came out of my teaching experience last year was I got to see some people get their diploma and maybe start to make a better life for themselves. Or go to the pen for a long time, I saw them graduate and then go do hard time at the state pen.
 
2022-08-05 6:58:59 PM  
The better way would be to make it even more illegal to bring a gun to a school.
 
2022-08-05 7:04:15 PM  
It wasn't a lack of guns that caused the failure in Uvalde.  It was a lack of guts and professionalism
 
2022-08-05 7:11:35 PM  
What a bad article.  What state is this? Do they not realize how many Madison counties there are in the US?
 
2022-08-05 7:16:11 PM  

jerryskid: If I was a teacher and an active shooter situation occurred, I'd grab one of those weapons and use it to escape. Why would I get into a firefight? I'm a farming teacher.


Imagine being a teacher who generally knows most of the kids, then being put in a position to potentially end the life of one of those kids.
Let's be real - I suspect nearly every teacher would a) not pull the trigger and become a victim b) would pull the trigger and probably commit suicide or be very very mentally unwell for a long long time or c) get fired because the school board determines they are a threat.
 
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