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(The Morning Call)   It pays to be a circumcised restaurant employee in Pennsylvania   (mcall.com) divider line
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2022-08-05 12:00:47 PM  
Story not about fried calamari appetizers
 
2022-08-05 12:02:01 PM  
What if you just want the tip?
 
2022-08-05 12:04:49 PM  
They get paid so they must be protips.
 
2022-08-05 12:21:14 PM  
Helmet or anteater?
 
2022-08-05 12:21:43 PM  
Unless it's an Arby's
 
2022-08-05 12:22:26 PM  
Ayyy what did the leper say to the hooker?
 
2022-08-05 12:24:48 PM  
"It pays to be a circumcised restaurant employee in Pennsylvania"

"Changes to how Pennsylvania's tipped workers are paid, overtime for salaried workers, start Friday. Here's what it means

Pennsylvania's tipped workers starting Friday have more protections, a move state officials say will level the playing field for employers competing in a tight labor market."


Looks like it's the opposite, Subby. More protection for those with tips.
 
2022-08-05 12:25:59 PM  
Love when PAYWALLS that you've never been to say you've reached your free limit.
 
2022-08-05 12:28:34 PM  
WTF are we 10 years old? (yeah, welcome to Fark blah blah blah...)
 
2022-08-05 12:29:58 PM  
Hugh Jackman Loses It Over Sir Patrick Stewart's Ridiculous Circumcision Story - Graham Norton Show
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2022-08-05 12:30:53 PM  

mr_fulano: WTF are we 10 years old? (yeah, welcome to Fark blah blah blah...)


You clicked and commented. So... yeah. 😀
 
2022-08-05 12:31:02 PM  
Er, subby, quite the opposite - if I understand it right, essentially fewer people's tips are being docked.
 
2022-08-05 12:32:38 PM  
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2022-08-05 12:32:53 PM  
Oh, here we go! Somebody gets a little smegma in their food and everyone loses their shiat
 
2022-08-05 12:35:48 PM  

Marcos P: Ayyy what did the leper say to the hooker?


"Got a discount? Because, I'm broke"
 
2022-08-05 12:39:02 PM  
I got a tip for you.  There is a Schnippers in Philly.

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2022-08-05 12:43:00 PM  
An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.
 
2022-08-05 12:50:44 PM  

stuffy: Love when PAYWALLS that you've never been to say you've reached your free limit.


Your free limit is ZERO and you'll LIKE IT!
 
2022-08-05 12:51:32 PM  

west.la.lawyer: Story not about fried calamari appetizers


You can always tell how cheap/expensive is the menu by looking at the price for fried calamari.
 
2022-08-05 12:51:52 PM  

farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.


Nah.  $135 a month is nothing.
 
2022-08-05 12:59:09 PM  

Great_Milenko: farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.

Nah.  $135 a month is nothing.


Make more than that on a good night.
 
2022-08-05 1:06:01 PM  
Just paying them a decent wage without tipping out of the question?
 
2022-08-05 1:06:25 PM  
Starting on a Friday sounds like an advantage to the non Jewish.
 
2022-08-05 1:18:56 PM  
Heard on NPR the other day:

A ribbon salesman is about to retire, and he calls on a buyer at Bloomingdales. And he tells the buyer that he's never been able to sell Bloomingdales any ribbon, and would the buyer just buy some to kind of cap his career? And the buyer says, sure, I'll give you a token order. He says, send me enough ribbon to go from the tip of your nose to the tip of your penis. Next day, a truck backs up to the Bloomingdale's loading dock with 3,000 miles of ribbon. The buyer calls the salesman and says, what's going on? Salesman says, well, the tip of my penis is in Krakow.

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2022-08-05 1:20:05 PM  

cyberspacedout: Er, subby, quite the opposite - if I understand it right, essentially fewer people's tips are being docked.


And the dollar amount has already been mentioned here, but $135 is the cutoff.
 
2022-08-05 1:26:06 PM  
If you weren't already regularly screwing over your employees or on the cusp of failing completely, this law shouldn't really affect how you run your restaurant or its profit margins. I can't wait to see stories about restaurants closing down or raising prices with indignant messages talking about how the democrats did this to their legitimate and not-at-all shiatty business.
 
2022-08-05 1:31:02 PM  

stuffy: Love when PAYWALLS that you've never been to say you've reached your free limit.


You've probably been to the website of one of the other 137 newspapers that the corporation that owns this one also owns.
 
2022-08-05 1:31:37 PM  

Loucifer: mr_fulano: WTF are we 10 years old? (yeah, welcome to Fark blah blah blah...)

You clicked and commented. So... yeah. 😀


pretty much can't help myself
 
2022-08-05 1:32:41 PM  

nquadroa: Great_Milenko: farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.

Nah.  $135 a month is nothing.

Make more than that on a good night.


Which makes sense.  This is to prevent a fast food counter that has a tip jar that might get 30 bucks in it (split among five people) to be able to call of them exempt employees.

/or you could just do what California does and pay everybody the normal minimum wage
 
2022-08-05 1:48:55 PM  

mr_fulano: WTF are we 10 years old?


Nope, just ask your mom.

/ ask her about everyone on Fark
// because she knows all of us
/// knows knows...
//// nudge, nudge, wink, wink
/// because we've all farked her
// in case that wasn't clear
/ god, I love slashies
 
2022-08-05 1:49:13 PM  
Truly beneficial and deserving for the workers who are a cut above.
 
2022-08-05 1:57:34 PM  
My dad told me that when he was at boarding school, you were either known as a "roundhead" or "cavalier," depending on the state of your, er, equipment.

I suppose that sort of Civil War language would probably be lost on today's youth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2022-08-05 2:00:16 PM  

FlashHarry: My dad told me that when he was at boarding school, you were either known as a "roundhead" or "cavalier," depending on the state of your, er, equipment.

I suppose that sort of Civil War language would probably be lost on today's youth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I only know those terms from watching Black Adder.
 
2022-08-05 2:04:33 PM  
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2022-08-05 2:39:22 PM  

nquadroa: Great_Milenko: farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.

Nah.  $135 a month is nothing.

Make more than that on a good night.


Back in the day, early 2000s, $250 for 6 hours bartending. Tip out barback for closing, still walking with $230. Then I wasted 3 years getting a bs, only to find that I make less money (after the benefits are taken out - to be fair, not available to servers/tenders). I miss juggling bottles and lightning smokes with my alcohol covered burning thumb.
 
2022-08-05 2:44:08 PM  

Eravior: Looks like it's the opposite, Subby. More protection for those with tips.


mr_fulano: WTF are we 10 years old? (yeah, welcome to Fark blah blah blah...)


When I was 10 years old, I thought I was uncircumcised.  So TFH makes sense to 10yo me.

I didn't learn until later that circumcision did not remove the glans.

/I felt SO sorry for them jewish boys...
 
2022-08-05 3:32:42 PM  

farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.


Hey come on now. $135 a month plus... PLUS 3 bucks an hour???? You're living like a king!
This is why I only tip 2-3%. 

And also my food tastes strangely of a mixture of salt and bleach.
 
2022-08-05 3:59:50 PM  

mehhhhhh: Back in the day, early 2000s, $250 for 6 hours bartending. Tip out barback for closing, still walking with $230. Then I wasted 3 years getting a bs, only to find that I make less money (after the benefits are taken out - to be fair, not available to servers/tenders). I miss juggling bottles and lightning smokes with my alcohol covered burning thumb.


$250 and the barback only got $20? Ouch. Well, I guess it depends on how many bartenders there are. I'm thinking of a local place that often only has two bartenders and a barback on busy nights.

And juggling? Huh... never had flair bartenders around here. I suppose that would be good for extra tips.
 
2022-08-05 4:05:50 PM  

Eravior: "It pays to be a circumcised restaurant employee in Pennsylvania"

"Changes to how Pennsylvania's tipped workers are paid, overtime for salaried workers, start Friday. Here's what it means

Pennsylvania's tipped workers starting Friday have more protections, a move state officials say will level the playing field for employers competing in a tight labor market."

Looks like it's the opposite, Subby. More protection for those with tips.


I thought that too, but maybe subby is using it as a verb?
 
2022-08-05 4:35:17 PM  
Don't be a nitwit, just tip your servers.
 
2022-08-05 4:46:27 PM  

gunther_bumpass: farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.

Hey come on now. $135 a month plus... PLUS 3 bucks an hour???? You're living like a king!
This is why I only tip 2-3%. 

And also my food tastes strangely of a mixture of salt and bleach.


Well technically if you make less than minimum wage the regular minimum wage after tips, your employer employer is required to pay you the difference.

In reality, I doubt most people are going to keep their jobs if they go up to their employer saying they got next to no tips and telling the employer to pay them.
 
2022-08-05 5:05:15 PM  
Sorry, the idea that you can pay someone $2/hr if they get an extra $135 a month is still messed up. And what is minimum wage doing at $7.25 anyway?
If this is an improvement, yikes!
 
2022-08-05 5:13:39 PM  

RickTheVote: Don't be a nitwit, just tip your servers.


The idea that a business can shame it's customers into paying it's employees' salaries is messed up.
But since paying a living wage is obviously out of the question tipping remains compulsory.
It's not likely to change any time soon.
 
2022-08-05 5:31:47 PM  
Back in my server days, the other waiters and I would frequently rub our tips together to make them grow.

/itsaliving
 
2022-08-05 6:51:56 PM  
Sounds good.

Where I live and work (Fortune 500 company) I'll be monitoring and updating a process throughout the weekend to create a one off report for a department (you have to go into the executive suite to find a common boss with) after they missed all of their deliverable items that would have kept it as after hours work during the work week.

"We're simply out of time" a company said to me when it makes billions and I make shiat and less than shiat when their poverty of giving a fark demands my part of my life.
 
2022-08-05 7:12:20 PM  

farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.


What server makes less than $135 a month in tips?  My daughters 16 year old friend is a waitress in a diner and clears that most nights.

Working even part time at 20 hrs a week that's 80 hours a month which equates to $1.68  in tips per hour... if that's your tips you suck at whatever your trying to do.

Tipped the car wash guy $10 today.
 
2022-08-05 7:25:49 PM  
What the actual fark?

Most of that reads to me like a "We'll stop being SUUUUUUPER shiatty to FoH, but only because we have to.  Still pretty shiatty, tho.
 
2022-08-05 7:58:48 PM  

ctighe2353: farkitallletitend: An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Sounds like all restaurants will be hiring family from here on out. Good reason to have kids though no one else is going to work for you. We pay less than welfare. No benefits, low pay, long hours and no PTO. Do a great job and we cut your pay! It's a wonder more people don't piss in the pickle barrel.

What server makes less than $135 a month in tips?  My daughters 16 year old friend is a waitress in a diner and clears that most nights.

Working even part time at 20 hrs a week that's 80 hours a month which equates to $1.68  in tips per hour... if that's your tips you suck at whatever your trying to do.

Tipped the car wash guy $10 today.


This. I knew someone ten years ago who was coming home with at least a hundred bucks a night working the dinner shift at a family restaurant/ ice cream parlor outside Philly. She was damn near making more than I was as a mechanical engineer (at a really shiatty company).
 
2022-08-05 8:33:29 PM  

dywed88: Well technically if you make less than minimum wage the regular minimum wage after tips, your employer employer is required to pay you the difference.

In reality, I doubt most people are going to keep their jobs if they go up to their employer saying they got next to no tips and telling the employer to pay them.


The bigger change clarified some years ago was if you had your tips pooled and then some paid out to employees traditionally not tipped, such as dishwashers and especially managers. If that happened, your employer owes you the full non-tipped minimum wage.
 
2022-08-05 9:00:05 PM  

Walker: What if you just want the tip?



Based on this:
An update to the definition of "tipped employee," adjusted for inflation since 1977, increasing the amount in tips an employee must receive monthly from $30 to $135 before an employer can reduce an employee's hourly pay from $7.25 per hour to as low as $2.83 per hour.

Thats pretty much all some of them are getting any way.

Why not just get rid of the tip credit altogrther!  Some states do, and without the disasterous effects these employers claim will happen!
 
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