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(NPR)   Let's compare a Black man, a fascist, and a really old guy to see if there's any difference in how they announce the death of a terrorist leader to the nation   (npr.org) divider line
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2022-08-05 9:38:27 AM  
FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?
 
2022-08-05 10:43:35 AM  
I was at a wedding in NJ overlooking Southern Manhattan on the night Obama made that announcement. It's a night won't forget both for the historical importance, the location and Obama really just owned that moment and brought us all together to try to put some closure on a very long, open wound.
 
2022-08-05 10:57:45 AM  

Thoreny: FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?


And not a hint of that theme when discussing Trump's speech which included language like 'died whimpering and terrified in a dead end tunnel'. I was like, what the fark when I heard that, like he was getting off on it. Fark whoever wrote this garbage article.
 
2022-08-05 11:22:08 AM  
Obama's speech caused Trump to run from President.

I doubt Trump or Biden can claim that.
 
2022-08-05 11:23:25 AM  
Man, I never would have guessed that three wildly different people would perform the same task under different circumstances differently.
 
2022-08-05 11:24:13 AM  
"Mission accomplished"?
 
2022-08-05 11:25:22 AM  

meat0918: Obama's speech caused Trump to run from President.

I doubt Trump or Biden can claim that.


Nah, Obama making fun of Trump at the WHCD is what made Trump run.
 
2022-08-05 11:25:51 AM  
Two of them sounded like Presidents.

One sounded like some douchebag describing his last boss kill in "Grand Theft Auto Tehran".
 
2022-08-05 11:25:52 AM  
Obama: UBL FAFO. Mic drop.

Trump: Let me tell you about me for an hour

Biden: Thank you to our troops.
 
2022-08-05 11:26:09 AM  
The fascist was also a really old guy. Maybe lacking a few years on the President, but far more senile and out of touch.
 
2022-08-05 11:26:40 AM  
We get it. It's only acceptable when a Republican president announces the death of a terrorist.

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2022-08-05 11:27:02 AM  

Epic Fap Session: Man, I never would have guessed that three wildly different people would perform the same task under different circumstances differently.


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2022-08-05 11:28:02 AM  
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2022-08-05 11:29:23 AM  
Wheres GW?
Oh, his neo-con regime for eight years didn't take one out...
(way longer if one were to investigate his grandfather Prescott bush as a traitor during early 1900s)

He cleared brush in Crawford and golfed, huh.
 
2022-08-05 11:29:35 AM  
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2022-08-05 11:29:44 AM  

Subtonic: Thoreny: FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?

And not a hint of that theme when discussing Trump's speech which included language like 'died whimpering and terrified in a dead end tunnel'. I was like, what the fark when I heard that, like he was getting off on it. Fark whoever wrote this garbage article.


What the actual fark, did you even read the (very short) article?  That comment was directed at all three different killings, not just Joe Biden's speech;  The writer is saying "Hey taking credit for the targeted assassination of another human being in any guise is a dark place to go to for any politician, and these THREE people all did that-- They just did it differently from one another, tonally."
 
2022-08-05 11:29:46 AM  
This goes back to Trump's background not in politics, but as a businessman tabloid celebrity and reality TV star, these experts "experts" noted.

F "F"
 
2022-08-05 11:31:06 AM  
To refer to Trump speaking as rhetoric or oratory is farked up.   That farking moron can barely speak english. He makes GWB come across as an erudite.
 
2022-08-05 11:33:02 AM  
[The fact that Obama, Trump and Biden took center stage to announce the execution of another person is "a little bloodthirsty," Schwartz said.]

Oh, STFU!

/BOTH THIDES
 
2022-08-05 11:33:31 AM  

Subtonic: And not a hint of that theme when discussing Trump's speech which included language like 'died whimpering and terrified in a dead end tunnel'.


"...but enough about having sex with Melania."
 
2022-08-05 11:34:15 AM  

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Love this one.

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2022-08-05 11:34:40 AM  
I thought that was a setup for a Jesse Peterson punchline

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2022-08-05 11:34:49 AM  

wademh: [c.tenor.com image 498x373]


By far the best thing to come out of that announcement.
 
2022-08-05 11:34:53 AM  
Next, let us compare the pies served to each president, and what that tells us about how bored we are.
 
2022-08-05 11:37:00 AM  
FTFA: He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way," Trump said. He went on describing the operation, saying, "The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American forces bearing down on him."

If I were to believe in a higher power, I'd be on my knees praying to the Dark Lord below that this will be said someday soon for TFG.
 
2022-08-05 11:37:48 AM  

Thoreny: Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?


This is the same college professor who said this about Trump:

"One of the things that was very noteworthy about Trump's presidential rhetoric was that he claimed to not want to use it, he said that he didn't want to be presidential," said Jennifer Mercieca, a historian of American political rhetoric and professor at Texas A&M University. "He thought that presidential [style] was boring and lame and he thought that he won the office of the presidency by being dynamic and interesting. And so that's, I think, very clearly reflected."

Here's Trump's quote about killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in 2019:

"He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way. The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American forces bearing down on him."

You know, just super, SUPER, professional talk.
 
2022-08-05 11:37:54 AM  
The sight of a U.S. president announcing the death of a terrorist leader has been a fixture in American politics over the past 11 years.

The second Bush administration never happened?
 
2022-08-05 11:37:58 AM  
Missing from Biden's remarks: "I shot a farking knife missile at him!"
 
2022-08-05 11:38:37 AM  

deadsanta: What the actual fark, did you even read the (very short) article?


Pfft. No.
 
2022-08-05 11:38:45 AM  
 
2022-08-05 11:39:41 AM  
"the execution of another person is "a little bloodthirsty," Schwartz said."

Stopped reading there.

The death of each of these leaders saves countless future lives.  You announce it publicly so their potential replacements think twice about murdering countless future lives.

There's nothing blood thirsty about it.  It's about SAVING lives.
 
2022-08-05 11:39:50 AM  

ProfessorTerguson: Wheres GW?
Oh, his neo-con regime for eight years didn't take one out...
(way longer if one were to investigate his grandfather Prescott bush as a traitor during early 1900s)

He cleared brush in Crawford and golfed, huh.


"Mission Accomplished"
 
2022-08-05 11:41:13 AM  
Everyone's level of class, right there on display for the history books.

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2022-08-05 11:41:31 AM  

kbronsito: To refer to Trump speaking as rhetoric or oratory is farked up.   That farking moron can barely speak english. He makes GWB come across as an erudite.


No, he doesn't. Trump being a bigger moron doesn't make Bush any less of a moron.
George W. Bush: "I Truly Am Not That Concerned About Osama Bin Laden"
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2022-08-05 11:42:33 AM  

Armchair_Invective: Next, let us compare the pies served to each president, and what that tells us about how bored we are.


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2022-08-05 11:43:13 AM  

Thoreny: FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?


It's strange that apparently not every person they spoke with commented on each speech or the author is cherry picking to present their own narrative but using an appeal to authority while having a cover that it is not their opinion
 
2022-08-05 11:45:13 AM  
"whimpering and crying and screaming all the way..."

So, like rapepublicans facing subpoenas, being forced out of office after losing an election by a "landslide", and soon to be how TFG reacts to FBI agents knocking on his door?
 
2022-08-05 11:47:20 AM  
I bet I can guess which one sounded like a school bully bragging.
 
2022-08-05 11:47:26 AM  
I had never read Trump's speech when they killed that fella, that is... something else.  The thing is that goes way past "not your usual political speech"... most average guys probably wouldn't say that, either.  What we're looking at there is "pissed off 15 year old mostly raised by a television set."
 
2022-08-05 11:47:37 AM  

deadsanta: Subtonic: Thoreny: FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?

And not a hint of that theme when discussing Trump's speech which included language like 'died whimpering and terrified in a dead end tunnel'. I was like, what the fark when I heard that, like he was getting off on it. Fark whoever wrote this garbage article.

What the actual fark, did you even read the (very short) article?  That comment was directed at all three different killings, not just Joe Biden's speech;  The writer is saying "Hey taking credit for the targeted assassination of another human being in any guise is a dark place to go to for any politician, and these THREE people all did that-- They just did it differently from one another, tonally."


Did YOU read the article? she followed that comment with this:

"What Donald Trump did was the opposite. He didn't try to elevate it," she said. "Instead, he called the person a 'dog,' he very crudely described how they died, and what it meant."

she's happy that 45 dehumanized him, and thinks him the best of the three for it.
 
2022-08-05 11:49:00 AM  

Subtonic: Thoreny: FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?

And not a hint of that theme when discussing Trump's speech which included language like 'died whimpering and terrified in a dead end tunnel'. I was like, what the fark when I heard that, like he was getting off on it. Fark whoever wrote this garbage article.


Nice
Polite
Republicans
 
2022-08-05 11:49:45 AM  

middleoftheday: I had never read Trump's speech when they killed that fella, that is... something else.  The thing is that goes way past "not your usual political speech"... most average guys probably wouldn't say that, either.  What we're looking at there is "pissed off 15 year old mostly raised by a television set."


He was describing the way he would have reacted in the same situation, it's all projection with him. Just like everything else with him, wholesale projection.
 
2022-08-05 11:50:28 AM  
Let's play "Spot the presidential president"

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2022-08-05 11:52:15 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Two of them sounded like Presidents.

One sounded like some douchebag describing his last boss kill in "Grand Theft Auto Tehran".


Trump: "he dead"
 
2022-08-05 11:52:20 AM  
wow this is a real interesting thing to do - comparing similar situations between more than two presidents. You might consider taking the year into account because todays language and what people are used to say and hear differes so much from what was usual 20 years ago. thanks for sharing this article OP!
 
2022-08-05 11:54:54 AM  

abhorrent1: Spot the differemce

https://twitter.com/annatolentini/status/1553316817598283776


That video is great and all but that  amazing engrish magabot image response...does anybody know what they're trying to say with

"Made men to give birth"?

Also, I'm outraged that Biden took away our "energy independet".

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2022-08-05 11:57:24 AM  

spongeboob: cherry picking to present their own narrative but using an appeal to authority while having a cover that it is not their opinion


Yes.  That's journalism in 2022.   That's how it works
 
2022-08-05 12:00:10 PM  

Lsherm: Thoreny: Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?

This is the same college professor who said this about Trump:

"One of the things that was very noteworthy about Trump's presidential rhetoric was that he claimed to not want to use it, he said that he didn't want to be presidential," said Jennifer Mercieca, a historian of American political rhetoric and professor at Texas A&M University. "He thought that presidential [style] was boring and lame and he thought that he won the office of the presidency by being dynamic and interesting. And so that's, I think, very clearly reflected."

Here's Trump's quote about killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in 2019:

"He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way. The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American forces bearing down on him."

You know, just super, SUPER, professional talk.


You know in movies when the protagonist throws the villain's words back in his face when he's defeated? Yeah, that's always fun.
 
2022-08-05 12:00:12 PM  

THX 1138: We get it. It's only acceptable when a Republican president announces the death of a terrorist.

Is anyone else getting new imbedded ads, or has Fark just found a way around my ad blocker?


On my phone I received pop up ads right after an Android update the first few times I used Fark.  They're gone now.
 
2022-08-05 12:00:59 PM  

Subtonic: Thoreny: FTA

Biden tries to project strength

Presidents do this to "sort of elevate what could be a very crass event, which is that the United States has exacted revenge and murdered someone else," Mercieca said.

/FTA

Yes, someone actually said this about Biden's speech concerning al-Zawahiri.

What the actual fark?

And not a hint of that theme when discussing Trump's speech which included language like 'died whimpering and terrified in a dead end tunnel'. I was like, what the fark when I heard that, like he was getting off on it. Fark whoever wrote this garbage article.


Damn straight!

What a crap article. "The way he spoke was yielded different types of information." WTF ever. That speech was shockingly shiatty and petty. "It wasn't like other modern president's speeches." Yeah, no shiat; look who you're writing about. What a choad.
 
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