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(Slate)   Being labeled as a "Christian Nationalist" used to be something nobody wanted, but then Christian Nationalists realized they could really start stiggin' it to the libs by simply embracing the name, just as Christ would have wanted them to   (slate.com) divider line
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2022-08-05 8:27:36 AM  
Just give these people a bloody nose. We can't trust them, they're ideology is garbage and none of them will ever deal in good faith.
So just give them a bloody nose, limit the damage they can cause, and ignore their objections.
 
2022-08-05 8:48:50 AM  
It's not just that they're 'Christian Nationalists' but overwhelmingly, they also seem to be White Nationalists as well. The 'Christian' part is just cover for the latter portion of the show. It's just branding at this point. It's better to be called a 'Christian Nationalist' than 'White Power Motherf*cker' in the same way that it was better to be dubbed 'Alt Right' than 'Nazi Fanboi.'
 
2022-08-05 8:50:35 AM  

Weaver95: Just give these people a bloody nose. We can't trust them, they're ideology is garbage and none of them will ever deal in good faith.
So just give them a bloody nose, limit the damage they can cause, and ignore their objections.


Their ideology changes to fit what ever they want to do....you know, like most evangelical Christians.
 
2022-08-05 9:07:53 AM  
Nationalist Christians.  Or Nat Cs for short
 
2022-08-05 9:23:22 AM  

hubiestubert: It's not just that they're 'Christian Nationalists' but overwhelmingly, they also seem to be White Nationalists as well. The 'Christian' part is just cover for the latter portion of the show. It's just branding at this point. It's better to be called a 'Christian Nationalist' than 'White Power Motherf*cker' in the same way that it was better to be dubbed 'Alt Right' than 'Nazi Fanboi.'


Never heard a black, Asian or Latinx person call themselves a Christian Nationalist... yeah, checks out.
 
2022-08-05 9:24:12 AM  
Yeah, I don't know what the end game is for that, but I know it's not good. I think the Koch family overplayed their hand.
 
2022-08-05 9:25:40 AM  
They're Nazis.  Just call them Nazis.
 
2022-08-05 9:25:48 AM  
I wish people would quit trying to import these weird, exotic, middle eastern religions to the Americas.
Quetzalcóatl  and The Great Spirit were good enough for our forefathers, and I resent these corrosive foreign influences, brought here by unwanted and illegal immigrants!
 
2022-08-05 9:26:02 AM  
They're white supremacists... Christian Nationalism is just the veneer they've decided to cover over that ugly truth with.
 
2022-08-05 9:26:40 AM  

saintstryfe: hubiestubert: It's not just that they're 'Christian Nationalists' but overwhelmingly, they also seem to be White Nationalists as well. The 'Christian' part is just cover for the latter portion of the show. It's just branding at this point. It's better to be called a 'Christian Nationalist' than 'White Power Motherf*cker' in the same way that it was better to be dubbed 'Alt Right' than 'Nazi Fanboi.'

Never heard a black, Asian or Latinx person call themselves a Christian Nationalist... yeah, checks out.


They tend to go with stuff like https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam

Multiple NFL players are openly members of Nation of Islam, for example.
 
2022-08-05 9:26:45 AM  
F*ck Christians, keep your goddamn fantasy religion to yourself
 
2022-08-05 9:27:09 AM  
We need a Freedom from religion amendment, just to make things clear.
 
2022-08-05 9:27:34 AM  
I like that part of the bible when Jesus says that his followers should violently overthrow the government.
 
2022-08-05 9:27:56 AM  
A Nazi by any other name...
 
2022-08-05 9:28:07 AM  
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2022-08-05 9:28:21 AM  
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Time to fumigate.
 
2022-08-05 9:28:26 AM  

firefly212: They're white supremacists... Christian Nationalism is just the veneer they've decided to cover over that ugly truth with.


Just don't lose sight of the fact that these people ARE christians. Bad people maybe, but still valid members of the christian faith.
 
2022-08-05 9:29:02 AM  
Oh, and of course there's plenty of t-shirts and other merchandise to buy.
 
2022-08-05 9:30:17 AM  
 
2022-08-05 9:31:03 AM  
Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.
 
2022-08-05 9:31:13 AM  
Christian Nationalist *Nationalist Christian

Nat-C, for short.
 
2022-08-05 9:31:32 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: F*ck Christians, keep your goddamn fantasy religion to yourself


All religions are fantasies. Some are just more militant than others.
 
2022-08-05 9:32:53 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.


Or maybe you could stop acting like Nazis.
 
2022-08-05 9:33:32 AM  
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2022-08-05 9:33:51 AM  
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2022-08-05 9:34:03 AM  
"If it makes the left or liberals upset, I'm more than willing to claim it."

1) That's the attitude of a child.
2) Why would your admitting it make a liberal upset? If anything, it validates them.
 
2022-08-05 9:34:14 AM  
My God can beat up your God.
 
2022-08-05 9:34:24 AM  
Stand now or the evangelicals will come for you when there's no one left to stand for you.
 
2022-08-05 9:35:26 AM  
The thing I don't understand is, if you're a nationalist, why do you display the battle flag of an enemy country (the Confederacy)?
 
2022-08-05 9:35:49 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.


Yes - I think it is time we listened to the REAL victims of racism in America.
White people.
 
2022-08-05 9:35:59 AM  
And yet another anti-white-anti christian rant. Do you realy hate that much? Seek help please.
 
2022-08-05 9:36:01 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.


Except that Christianity is very clearly a danger to our democracy and it's perfectly valid to acknowledge the threat.
 
2022-08-05 9:36:05 AM  
FTFA: To be clear, Christian nationalism is an academic term that encompasses different degrees of intensity. It includes more harmless, everyday God-and-country white evangelicals who believe politicians and courts should eliminate barriers separating church and state-perhaps by allowing for prayer in schools or other public spaces-as well as those with a "dominionist" perspective, compelled to bring the nation's institutions under control of people who will enforce God's law.

Not sure I agree with their use of the word "harmless" here.
 
2022-08-05 9:36:58 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.


How do you explain:

Trump
MTG
Bobert
Trent Lott
Jesse Helms
David Duke
Ted Cruz
Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck
Sean Hannity
Floor humping guy
Ben Shapiro
Michael Savage

?
 
2022-08-05 9:37:11 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: My God can beat up your God.


🎵
Cthulhu Fhtagn...what a wonderful phrase,

Cthulhu Fhtagn...say it if you're crazed,

It means no worries for the rest of your days*

It's our prophecy...you'll all soon see

Cthulhu Fhtagn!
🎵
 
2022-08-05 9:38:01 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.


What's nice is this way they don't get to disavow it when the time comes to deal with them. We should probably brand it in to their foreheads.
 
2022-08-05 9:38:02 AM  
I wish I could summon up the eloquence to express myself more appropriately. I'm loathe to use the word, but I hate these people.
 
2022-08-05 9:38:44 AM  
Start reporting their churches to the IRS for violating their tax exempt status
 
2022-08-05 9:38:46 AM  
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Christian fundamentalists be like
 
2022-08-05 9:39:37 AM  

strongly worded letter: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.

How do you explain:

Trump
MTG
Bobert
Trent Lott
Jesse Helms
David Duke
Ted Cruz
Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck
Sean Hannity
Floor humping guy
Ben Shapiro
Michael Savage

?


If I understand him correctly, he is offering Oppositional Defiant Disorder as an excuse for antisocial speech and behavior.
 
2022-08-05 9:41:10 AM  

jso2897: strongly worded letter: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.

How do you explain:

Trump
MTG
Bobert
Trent Lott
Jesse Helms
David Duke
Ted Cruz
Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck
Sean Hannity
Floor humping guy
Ben Shapiro
Michael Savage

?

If I understand him correctly, he is offering Oppositional Defiant Disorder as an excuse for antisocial speech and behavior.


This Lost Cause bs needs to get lost.
 
2022-08-05 9:42:29 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "If it makes the left or liberals upset, I'm more than willing to claim it."

1) That's the attitude of a child.
2) Why would your admitting it make a liberal upset? If anything, it validates them.


Lib here - Republicans, Christians, and Nazis (also known as Nazis, Nazis, & Nazis) have never 'upset' me. They've given me some good laughs and I feel sorry for how pathetic they are but 'upset'? Nope. Now - the new Tweedy Coffee Maker that turns itself off every two hours - that upsets the piss out of me. Every two hours that I hear it "click" and turn off I'm like "damn thing is stiggin' it to me".
 
2022-08-05 9:43:07 AM  

strongly worded letter: This Lost Cause bs needs to get lost.


The cause isn't lost when you can get 70 million subhumans to support it.
 
2022-08-05 9:44:02 AM  

Bullseyed: saintstryfe: hubiestubert: It's not just that they're 'Christian Nationalists' but overwhelmingly, they also seem to be White Nationalists as well. The 'Christian' part is just cover for the latter portion of the show. It's just branding at this point. It's better to be called a 'Christian Nationalist' than 'White Power Motherf*cker' in the same way that it was better to be dubbed 'Alt Right' than 'Nazi Fanboi.'

Never heard a black, Asian or Latinx person call themselves a Christian Nationalist... yeah, checks out.

They tend to go with stuff like https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam

Multiple NFL players are openly members of Nation of Islam, for example.


Yeah and if Christian Nationalists had the same scope and power as the Nation of Islam I wouldn't give a shiat about them either.  The fact that Christian Nationalists are an actual threat matters.
 
2022-08-05 9:44:12 AM  

EatHam: Nationalist Christians.  Or Nat Cs for short


After seeing the term "Nat C" in a headline or two and elsewhere over the internets and not thinking anything of it other than it was just an abbreaviation and then I read this post and now I am all...

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2022-08-05 9:45:16 AM  
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2022-08-05 9:49:11 AM  
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2022-08-05 9:49:35 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Where's my not shocked face?

Run around calling everyone to the right of Marx things like Christian Nationalist, and eventually the people realize the term is only a bludgeon if they let it be one.

And if you're going to be called one no matter what you do, might as well just embrace it and take it back.

See: every other reclaimed pejorative throughout the entirety of human history.


Its a rare thing to see someone nail themselves to their own cross.
 
2022-08-05 9:52:17 AM  
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2022-08-05 9:52:55 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "If it makes the left or liberals upset, I'm more than willing to claim it."

1) That's the attitude of a child.
2) Why would your admitting it make a liberal upset? If anything, it validates them.


They need to believe that it makes liberals upset, because that hypothetical state of liberals is the foundation on which conservatives feel that they and fellow conservatives are victims. They posit that we're upset with them, then invent a connection between that supposed state of anger on our part, and our objections to their abjectly shiatty policies, then surmise that we're only against their policies because we hate them... so no matter what the scenario, they can pretend that they're the victim.

When you look at their overtly aggressive positions on things like trans rights, womens rights, civil rights, voting rights, etc., positions where they're actively seeking to disenfranchise people or undermine their rights... conservatives follow this pattern where they attack marginalized groups, posit that liberals are angry at conservatives personally (not just against the positions), follow that up by saying that liberals are only against the policy because they hate conservative people on a personal level (rather than having a rational basis of being against the policy), then if the unpopular policy fails, they say it's just because people hate them personally, or if it succeeds, they argue that it always should have succeeded, and anyone against it is only against it for personal reasons. It's a cheap debate tactic they use to sidestep any criticism of their shiatty policies based on the merits or consequences of the policies themselves.
 
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