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(Rolling Stone)   Speaking of DC properties, Netflix has dropped 10 episodes of The Sandman. Watch it repeatedly ASAP, lest The Algorithm not give a Season 2   (rollingstone.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, The Sandman, Neil Gaiman, Hellblazer, The Sandman: The Dream Hunters, Alan Moore, The Sandman: Season of Mists, comic book, DC Comics  
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2022-08-05 7:27:42 PM  

madgonad: WhippingBoi: madgonad: Am I the only one that is afraid to start it because I don't want to be disappointed? I have no problem with the casting, but I'm worried that they are going to totally screw up the story.

This is an unfounded fear. When have modern creators "re-imaginers" ever screwed up a beloved work of art?

Yeah, thanks for twisting that knife (cough) Wheel of Time (cough)


Unpopular opinion: The Wheel of Time series is pretty good, except for the last half hour which is truly terrible, but it's fine. Yes, it didn't follow the books perfectly, but what's the point of that? You've already read the books, and Jordan has such word diarrhea that you should already know exactly what everyone looked and sounded like, and exactly how upturned their calves are.
 
2022-08-05 7:37:11 PM  

Lusiphur: madgonad: WhippingBoi: madgonad: Am I the only one that is afraid to start it because I don't want to be disappointed? I have no problem with the casting, but I'm worried that they are going to totally screw up the story.

This is an unfounded fear. When have modern creators "re-imaginers" ever screwed up a beloved work of art?

Yeah, thanks for twisting that knife (cough) Wheel of Time (cough)

Unpopular opinion: The Wheel of Time series is pretty good, except for the last half hour which is truly terrible, but it's fine. Yes, it didn't follow the books perfectly, but what's the point of that? You've already read the books, and Jordan has such word diarrhea that you should already know exactly what everyone looked and sounded like, and exactly how upturned their calves are.


Look sometimes you need two pages devoted to what type of chair an aes sedai is sitting in and how comfortable said chair is.

And braid tugging.
 
2022-08-05 7:41:59 PM  

lilplatinum: Lusiphur: madgonad: WhippingBoi: madgonad: Am I the only one that is afraid to start it because I don't want to be disappointed? I have no problem with the casting, but I'm worried that they are going to totally screw up the story.

This is an unfounded fear. When have modern creators "re-imaginers" ever screwed up a beloved work of art?

Yeah, thanks for twisting that knife (cough) Wheel of Time (cough)

Unpopular opinion: The Wheel of Time series is pretty good, except for the last half hour which is truly terrible, but it's fine. Yes, it didn't follow the books perfectly, but what's the point of that? You've already read the books, and Jordan has such word diarrhea that you should already know exactly what everyone looked and sounded like, and exactly how upturned their calves are.

Look sometimes you need two pages devoted to what type of chair an aes sedai is sitting in and how comfortable said chair is.

And braid tugging.


But what about the fullness of he bossom? And was she paddled on her bottom for little apparent reason?
 
2022-08-05 7:46:30 PM  
Just finished bingeing all ten episodes. It's possibly the best adaptation I've seen that sticks close to the source material. On par with The Boys, but that one pretty much threw the comic out after the first episode. I hope Stephen Fry survives to make an appearance in the last season.
 
2022-08-05 8:23:10 PM  
I'm not sure anyone's figured out the Netflix algorithm well enough to game it. If the show doesn't get enough viewers, they'll cancel it. But if it becomes a big hit and a fan favorite, they still might cancel it. It seems like it has to hit some kind of magical sweet spot in viewership numbers where it doesn't draw attention to itself as a flop OR a success.
 
2022-08-05 8:36:15 PM  
And incidentally, Kirby Howell-Baptiste is fantastic in the role of Death. If I was going to nitpick anything, I just wish they'd kept the Eye of Horus makeup. I always liked that as a subtle detail of her look.
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2022-08-05 8:48:49 PM  

EdgeRunner: And incidentally, Kirby Howell-Baptiste is fantastic in the role of Death. If I was going to nitpick anything, I just wish they'd kept the Eye of Horus makeup. I always liked that as a subtle detail of her look.
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Neil someone on Twitter wheee Neil was responding to that question when the trailers came out. Apparently they didn't start drawing her with that makeup until A Season of Mists, so in the Netflix series they didn't add it for The Sound of Her Wings.

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2022-08-05 8:49:57 PM  
Shoot, my edit got mangled. That should read: "I saw somewhere on Twitter where Neil was responding..."
 
2022-08-05 8:52:20 PM  
I don't think I like the writing.  I think I know too much about the context of the original work to understand the dialog is talking to people who don't know.
 
2022-08-05 9:07:15 PM  

Mad_Radhu: EdgeRunner: And incidentally, Kirby Howell-Baptiste is fantastic in the role of Death. If I was going to nitpick anything, I just wish they'd kept the Eye of Horus makeup. I always liked that as a subtle detail of her look.
[thewrap.com image 850x478]

Neil someone on Twitter wheee Neil was responding to that question when the trailers came out. Apparently they didn't start drawing her with that makeup until A Season of Mists, so in the Netflix series they didn't add it for The Sound of Her Wings.

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Wow. That's keeping with the comic continuity far more aggressively than necessary. But at least it gives hope that her eye whorl and parasol could eventually make an appearance.
 
2022-08-05 9:32:42 PM  

EdgeRunner: Mad_Radhu: EdgeRunner: And incidentally, Kirby Howell-Baptiste is fantastic in the role of Death. If I was going to nitpick anything, I just wish they'd kept the Eye of Horus makeup. I always liked that as a subtle detail of her look.
[thewrap.com image 850x478]

Neil someone on Twitter wheee Neil was responding to that question when the trailers came out. Apparently they didn't start drawing her with that makeup until A Season of Mists, so in the Netflix series they didn't add it for The Sound of Her Wings.

[Fark user image image 425x324]

Wow. That's keeping with the comic continuity far more aggressively than necessary. But at least it gives hope that her eye whorl and parasol could eventually make an appearance.


Yeah, it's interesting. For some things they are staying crazy close to the comics, but other things are being changed out of necessity.

For example, someone asked how the Spider-Women's long term storyline would work out with an update to a modern setting. He responded that it didn't make sense for one of them to catch HIV from a blood transfusion in 2023 (not to mention she'd be unlikely to die of AIDS in five years' time with modem antiviral treatments), so if they show up again in The Kindly Ones their long-term story will definitely have some tweaks.
 
2022-08-05 11:09:22 PM  
I've watched the first four episodes so far, and while there are a few things I wish they had changed, overall it's very good. Casting has been spot-on.
 
2022-08-06 12:13:51 AM  
Based on the trailers, they certainly seem to have nailed the visuals.

I'm so ridiculously distracted by his having normal eyes, though.  It's trivial, but still.
 
2022-08-06 1:09:06 AM  
So after finally getting a chance to watch the first episode I'm a little disappointed that they changed it so that the events of the Sandman Overture didn't happen in this version of the story, since I'm the comics that is what weakened him enough to get captured.
 
2022-08-06 5:18:44 AM  
I'm not familiar at all with the comic books, but so far the show is okay. The main character sucks, though. His only facial expression is basically Blue Steel from Zoolander, but dramatic and unironic.

I don't know if that's a fault of casting, acting, directing, or writing. But all he does is make pouty lips and speak in monotone.
 
2022-08-06 6:14:00 AM  

Richelieu: You just don't like a thing that several of us like. We can all still get along.


That time is passed.
 
2022-08-06 9:48:07 AM  

emtwo: I'm not familiar at all with the comic books, but so far the show is okay. The main character sucks, though. His only facial expression is basically Blue Steel from Zoolander, but dramatic and unironic.

I don't know if that's a fault of casting, acting, directing, or writing. But all he does is make pouty lips and speak in monotone.


This is inherent to the character. It changes with time, and that change is an essential part of his arc, just as his seemingly aloofness early on is also an essential part of the character.

If the show remains true to the comic in future seasons, there will be entire, lengthy arcs where Dream is a secondary character in his own series and rarely appears, so there will be some variety ahead.
 
2022-08-06 11:53:51 AM  

SuperChuck: I read the first trade of Sandman and I don't get the hype. There was a lot of pseudo-philosophical rambling and it never really went anywhere. What am I missing?


that it's ok to not like things that other people like
 
2022-08-06 11:56:47 AM  
I have never read the comic books.
I have heard of them.
I have watched all 10 episodes.
I enjoyed it, thought the earlier episodes were better than the later/last one.
Got a good chuckle out of the Cereal convention.
 
2022-08-06 11:56:57 AM  

madgonad: Richelieu: madgonad: Am I the only one that is afraid to start it because I don't want to be disappointed? I have no problem with the casting, but I'm worried that they are going to totally screw up the story.

Gaiman has been effusive in his praise regarding set design, costuming, and casting. He has also been involved in the script adaptation and has not wavered on his approval throughout production. I have allowed myself to be optimistic - the test will be this weekend's highly anticipated binge-watch.

Counterpoint: American Gods and the notion that Good Omens needs a sequel.


Yeah, to me American Gods was a hot mess of too many characters to follow for a teevee serial.

But for Good Omens 2?  Why not give it a shot?  First one was really good.
 
2022-08-06 12:12:26 PM  

IRS.Agent.009: madgonad: Richelieu: madgonad: Am I the only one that is afraid to start it because I don't want to be disappointed? I have no problem with the casting, but I'm worried that they are going to totally screw up the story.

Gaiman has been effusive in his praise regarding set design, costuming, and casting. He has also been involved in the script adaptation and has not wavered on his approval throughout production. I have allowed myself to be optimistic - the test will be this weekend's highly anticipated binge-watch.

Counterpoint: American Gods and the notion that Good Omens needs a sequel.

Yeah, to me American Gods was a hot mess of too many characters to follow for a teevee serial.

But for Good Omens 2?  Why not give it a shot?  First one was really good.


While I'm not opposed to a Good Omens 2, what I'd really like first is an expanded edition of Good Omens 1. Aside from Crowley and Aziraphale, all the characters were shortchanged on their presentation and could have used a lot more screentime, particularly Shadwell, Madame Tracy, and Adam and his gang.
 
2022-08-06 12:32:37 PM  

brigid_fitch: madgonad: Richelieu: madgonad: Am I the only one that is afraid to start it because I don't want to be disappointed? I have no problem with the casting, but I'm worried that they are going to totally screw up the story.

Gaiman has been effusive in his praise regarding set design, costuming, and casting. He has also been involved in the script adaptation and has not wavered on his approval throughout production. I have allowed myself to be optimistic - the test will be this weekend's highly anticipated binge-watch.

Counterpoint: American Gods and the notion that Good Omens needs a sequel.

American Gods wasn't Gaiman's fault.  The showrunners got into a fight w/the suits over budget & walked.  When they left, so did Gaiman, Gillian Anderson, and Kristen Chenoweth.  Season 2 scripts were tossed and the first few episodes were almost entirely improved or written by Orlando Jones.  Then they fired Jones.


Door to door magazine seller, Orlando Jones?
 
kab
2022-08-06 2:48:24 PM  
Never heard of it.   Will check it out once there's a second season announced.
 
2022-08-06 5:12:36 PM  
EdgeRunner:

How about a faithful Discworld adaptation instead?

Good Omens is a good book, but they already tapped it and although they left a lot on the cutting room floor. It's over.

But imagine Small Gods, for example, or Monstrous Regiment.  There's a season in either of those.
 
2022-08-06 5:46:12 PM  

leeksfromchichis: EdgeRunner:

How about a faithful Discworld adaptation instead?

Good Omens is a good book, but they already tapped it and although they left a lot on the cutting room floor. It's over.

But imagine Small Gods, for example, or Monstrous Regiment.  There's a season in either of those.


The BBC has been adapting Sir Terry's Discworld adventures for years with mixed results. I honestly don't have much faith in Netflix or Amazon to do a better job.
 
2022-08-06 5:58:47 PM  

EdgeRunner: leeksfromchichis: EdgeRunner:

How about a faithful Discworld adaptation instead?

Good Omens is a good book, but they already tapped it and although they left a lot on the cutting room floor. It's over.

But imagine Small Gods, for example, or Monstrous Regiment.  There's a season in either of those.

The BBC has been adapting Sir Terry's Discworld adventures for years with mixed results. I honestly don't have much faith in Netflix or Amazon to do a better job.


The British BBC did pretty good jobs with all of them I reckon. Especially Hogfather.

American BBC gave us The Watch.

Netflix falls somewhere in the middle
 
2022-08-06 7:03:15 PM  
Well I'm two episodes in and I'm enjoying it. I've never read the comic.
 
2022-08-06 7:37:43 PM  

leeksfromchichis: EdgeRunner: leeksfromchichis: EdgeRunner:

How about a faithful Discworld adaptation instead?

Good Omens is a good book, but they already tapped it and although they left a lot on the cutting room floor. It's over.

But imagine Small Gods, for example, or Monstrous Regiment.  There's a season in either of those.

The BBC has been adapting Sir Terry's Discworld adventures for years with mixed results. I honestly don't have much faith in Netflix or Amazon to do a better job.

The British BBC did pretty good jobs with all of them I reckon. Especially Hogfather.

American BBC gave us The Watch.

Netflix falls somewhere in the middle


I even like the animated adaptations, quirky but faithful and fun.
 
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