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(EurekAlert)   Potential to end humanity is 'dangerously underexplored' say experts who have never read a science fiction novel or seen a sci-fi movie in their lives   (eurekalert.org) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Global warming, Weather, lead author Dr Luke Kemp, temperature rises, future report, international team of researchers, extreme weather events, Last year's IPCC report  
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2022-08-03 11:35:20 AM  
No, the problem is that climate change is dangerously overexploring that potential.
 
2022-08-03 12:47:41 PM  
It's worth looking into. It might not be a bad idea.
 
2022-08-03 1:35:00 PM  
The point I think gets missed is that civilization will collapse long before humanity does.

People think they are safe but we are much closer to the point where the system fails and when it does their green paper currency and bitcoin are worthless.
 
2022-08-03 1:54:23 PM  
In 2070, I'd be 118 yo. More likely, I'll be extinct.
 
2022-08-03 2:05:25 PM  
Earth is the place where the people I loved either died or betrayed me, so I won't mind seeing it go.
 
2022-08-03 2:31:35 PM  
Climate change isn't going to extinct us. It is going to make life suck, reduce the food supply, and wipe out pockets of humans on a more regular basis. Humans are like mosquitos or cockroaches. Nothing is going to extinct us.
 
2022-08-03 2:39:45 PM  
Fake news.
 
2022-08-03 2:42:34 PM  
We need to come to terms with humxnity as we know it will come to an end.  We have to embrace change.  We need to have a world wide program of genetic catologing of humans and then purging them.  Keep the smaples and data on ice for a few centuries.  Have earth become a garden world tended by robots and a small amount of humxns.  With the population kept in check and replaced with clones to maximize diversity in case the data is corrupted.  After the earth has stabilized we can clone more people from the archives.  With genetic mods and possibly cybernetic mods to make each humxn less energy intensive and to make sure they comply with the new world order.  We need to merge man and machine.
 
2022-08-03 2:44:48 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: We need to come to terms with humxnity as we know it will come to an end.  We have to embrace change.  We need to have a world wide program of genetic catologing of humans and then purging them.  Keep the smaples and data on ice for a few centuries.  Have earth become a garden world tended by robots and a small amount of humxns.  With the population kept in check and replaced with clones to maximize diversity in case the data is corrupted.  After the earth has stabilized we can clone more people from the archives.  With genetic mods and possibly cybernetic mods to make each humxn less energy intensive and to make sure they comply with the new world order.  We need to merge man and machine.


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2022-08-03 3:24:46 PM  

AlgaeRancher: The point I think gets missed is that civilization will collapse long before humanity does.

People think they are safe but we are much closer to the point where the system fails and when it does their green paper currency and bitcoin are worthless.


This is what seems likely to me. And it definitely seems like the timeline is speeding up for warming - we got this whole decade of "it's not that bad, we can adapt easily, it won't get that bad" crap, but suddenly it's all forest fires and heat waves in just the past 3 years. I think we're going to get the last ditch wars and a push of fossil fuel development, and basically as a civilization run screaming into the fire. The Ukraine war, which rationally should have provoked a response of "how do we get off fossil fuels FAST" has instead sparked a "how can we get more of this poison from Africa or some other place?"

The nature of unsustainable things is that they can't be sustained... Sooner or later it is going to go tits up. Since everything is built on fossil fuels and there is no real large scale push to get off fast enough, it's going to collapse rather than be a controlled transition. I don't see any other outcome as likely because there is STILL a huge denial of the need to use less energy and stop using fossil fuels.
 
2022-08-03 4:21:23 PM  

adamatari: AlgaeRancher: The point I think gets missed is that civilization will collapse long before humanity does.

People think they are safe but we are much closer to the point where the system fails and when it does their green paper currency and bitcoin are worthless.

This is what seems likely to me. And it definitely seems like the timeline is speeding up for warming - we got this whole decade of "it's not that bad, we can adapt easily, it won't get that bad" crap, but suddenly it's all forest fires and heat waves in just the past 3 years. I think we're going to get the last ditch wars and a push of fossil fuel development, and basically as a civilization run screaming into the fire. The Ukraine war, which rationally should have provoked a response of "how do we get off fossil fuels FAST" has instead sparked a "how can we get more of this poison from Africa or some other place?"

The nature of unsustainable things is that they can't be sustained... Sooner or later it is going to go tits up. Since everything is built on fossil fuels and there is no real large scale push to get off fast enough, it's going to collapse rather than be a controlled transition. I don't see any other outcome as likely because there is STILL a huge denial of the need to use less energy and stop using fossil fuels.


Yeah the scientists will figure it out and send a mission to turn down the sun's thermostat or something. Every documentary I have ever seen has the scientists saving the day when humanity is at risk from Armageddon to World War Z.
 
2022-08-03 5:48:30 PM  
When the collapse comes, humanity will cling to Normal Life for as long as any illusion of it can be crafted. Maybe even an amusement park on the theme. 20 minutes in a living room eating Real Corn chips/crisps, watching television sitting on a soft, ample couch. Or rocking on a fake porch, with lemonade made with real lemons and real sugar. Ice is extra $$$. Breathing clean, air conditioned goodness with even lighting and no trace of smoke or Human Stink. It will seem dreamlike.

And of course some people will die. Lots, probably, as much from collapse of infrastructure as anything else. Meds? Med care? Hell, dental care and lack of can kill. But starvation and exposure will do most of the work, long before any wars do.
 
2022-08-03 6:09:56 PM  

madgonad: Climate change isn't going to extinct us. It is going to make life suck, reduce the food supply, and wipe out pockets of humans on a more regular basis. Humans are like mosquitos or cockroaches. Nothing is going to extinct us.


We'll turn everything into a kind of global Eater Island. But, yeah, I don't think extinction is in our future for a very long time.

We fill a similar ecological niche as flies, but on different size scales. So ... unless you can imagine flies going extinct, we're probably not, either.
 
2022-08-03 6:23:36 PM  

snowballinhell: When the collapse comes, humanity will cling to Normal Life for as long as any illusion of it can be crafted.


Here's a disturbing thought - maybe in few generations, some scholar living in a small pocket of humanity maintaining itself at the level of a 1300s European town will be telling someone that "the writing was really on the wall as far back at 1900, but they managed to ignore their problems for 150 years before most of them died off".
 
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