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2022-07-25 8:12:21 AM  
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The problem is the songs are being produced from the top down, i.e. Label has a concept, hires a team of writers, then hires the session people. In the prior days, the musician built most of the album, then sold it to the label. The resulting product was more coherent.
 
2022-07-25 8:13:05 AM  
I very rarely listen to music anymore.  If I'm driving, exercising, cutting the grass, or cooking dinner, I'm listening to one of about two dozen podcasts or youtube channels.
 
2022-07-25 8:14:35 AM  
Today's music is like music of any other generation.

A lot of crap is produced that is quickly forgotten.

And some awesome stuff that will endure is also produced.

But yeah, yeah...your generation had the best music and these kids today...
 
2022-07-25 8:16:10 AM  
Today's pop music sucks. If you listen to top 40/100 then yeah, it's the same least common denominator as it's always been.

Explore what you like personally and you'll find that there is a lot more music out there that you'd never find in the days of radio and top 40/100. Love it or hate it, stream music has given a platform to a lot of artists, go find a new favorite.
 
2022-07-25 8:19:30 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I very rarely listen to music anymore.  If I'm driving, exercising, cutting the grass, or cooking dinner, I'm listening to one of about two dozen podcasts or youtube channels.


You sound old.  You'd better start getting ready for the Early Bird Special.
 
2022-07-25 8:20:13 AM  
I kind of like the techno crap a bit... Some of it is pretty good, but no... it's not Fleetwood Mac or Creedence or early Pearl Jam... Hell early U2 was fantastic...

There's some good stuff out there if you look for it. I've been into the band Cannons recently and really like most of their stuff. Their covers are really good, original stuff too.

May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.
 
2022-07-25 8:22:17 AM  
The problem isn't lack of good music.  It's that discovery is a pain in the ass.  It used to be that you only heard what was on the radio, which was very limiting, but now there's an overabundance of content out there, all equally easy to find.  Unless you have someone that knows your taste well enough to personally recommend something to you, it's takes a lot of randomness to find something you haven't heard before and can really get into.
 
2022-07-25 8:22:36 AM  

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The problem is the songs are being produced from the top down, i.e. Label has a concept, hires a team of writers, then hires the session people. In the prior days, the musician built most of the album, then sold it to the label. The resulting product was more coherent.


Beatlesque
 
2022-07-25 8:24:13 AM  
Smitty is a Bad Guy

Not really
 
2022-07-25 8:25:35 AM  
Kaiser Chiefs - Everything Is Average Nowadays (Official Video)
Youtube JTkSV7sXz8Y
 
2022-07-25 8:26:40 AM  
Music used to be written by people that actually studied music.  A lot of the popular bands from the 20th century had deep roots in either classical music training, or were brought up in households where everyone played a musical instrument.  Today, all you need to make music is a synthesizer and a 50,000 watt speaker system that makes loud machinery noises.
 
2022-07-25 8:26:45 AM  

NewportBarGuy: May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.


I think YouTube has had a nervous breakdown.  It's started recommending cuts from movies and TV shows and I virtually never watch either.  I have to name music by the artist to see any and even then I'll get a dozen covers for every real recording. Sorry, YouTube, but no one will ever cover a Linda Ronstadt song and do a tenth as good a job as she did.
 
2022-07-25 8:26:49 AM  
Big Thief exists, your argument is invalid.
 
2022-07-25 8:31:19 AM  
There's plenty of good music available today. The big difference is in mainstream popular music. in the 80s and 90s, before I <3 Radio owned every radio station, it was possible to hear more than whatever was being promoted by Billboard. Now that's gone, we're stuck with streaming services that aren't that great at exposing us to new music that isn't formulaic.

Bring back diversified radio, make streaming better, pay artists more, and encourage /songs/, and not tracks that have 3 minute mass appeal
 
2022-07-25 8:31:22 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Music used to be written by people that actually studied music.  A lot of the popular bands from the 20th century had deep roots in either classical music training, or were brought up in households where everyone played a musical instrument.  Today, all you need to make music is a synthesizer and a 50,000 watt speaker system that makes loud machinery noises.


That still happens sometimes. The leader of this band has a Masters degree and is a world class saxophonist. The whole band has similar training and all met in college.

Durand Jones & The Indications - "Witchoo" Live From Douglass Recording - Brooklyn, NY
Youtube HAGWK1MjOtg
 
2022-07-25 8:31:53 AM  

I Ate Shergar: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JTkSV7sXz8Y]


Time Trumpet - music of the early 2000s
Youtube j1P7KlW5hd4
 
2022-07-25 8:32:51 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I kind of like the techno crap a bit... Some of it is pretty good, but no... it's not Fleetwood Mac or Creedence or early Pearl Jam... Hell early U2 was fantastic...

There's some good stuff out there if you look for it. I've been into the band Cannons recently and really like most of their stuff. Their covers are really good, original stuff too.

May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.


After months and months of liking and disliking songs on various "Radios", youtube music finally got a ultimate mix stream, or whatever it's called, that's playing songs I like, and exposing me to new music that I didn't know I liked.

I'm trying to get Tidal to do the same thing right now, and it's uh, a challenge. If a person is using Android Auto and not the app, it's not learning.
 
2022-07-25 8:33:54 AM  
Listen to music from outside the US.  Pop, techno, folk, metal, folk metal, all better when written by people whose educational systems didn't treat the arts as "fluff" that bring down your standardized testing scores.
 
2022-07-25 8:35:01 AM  
FTA: To put it another way, "Current" music is becoming progressively less popular when measured by the number of streams and sales. Whatever is being released today just isn't resonating with the public the way it did in the past. People are showing a growing interest in listening to older music instead.

Today's music isn't bad, it's just kind of the same. Billboard's hot 100 is full of th same electro hip-hop we've been listening to for 15 years. If your young and want to hear something new you most likely have to look backward in time because new sounds aren't making it in today's music scene.
 
2022-07-25 8:35:17 AM  

JerkfaceMcGee: Today's pop music sucks. If you listen to top 40/100 then yeah, it's the same least common denominator as it's always been.

Explore what you like personally and you'll find that there is a lot more music out there that you'd never find in the days of radio and top 40/100. Love it or hate it, stream music has given a platform to a lot of artists, go find a new favorite.


There was a lot of garbage in the top 40 when I was younger, but seems like they all played their own instruments, many wrote their own songs (without having to bring in some corporate team)  and seemed like the charts had much more variety to them.
 
2022-07-25 8:36:44 AM  

NewportBarGuy: May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.


I use YouTube Music and/or Spotify for that exact reason. It's not perfect by any means, but I have found more than a few artists and bands that way

At some point I should add my existing offline music titles to my YT library, but I do think it's kind of neat to watch it grow organically based on what I like of what it recommends
 
2022-07-25 8:36:54 AM  
Music used to be written by people that actually studied music.  A lot of the popular bands from the 19th century had deep roots in either classical music training, or were brought up in households where everyone played a piano.  Today, all you need to make music is a geetar and a 5,000 watt speaker system that makes loud machinery noises.
 
2022-07-25 8:39:34 AM  
I don't know about ALL music, but today's metal absolutely sucks with few exceptions.

I tried going through spotify's new metal (no nu-metal) releases for the past couple of years and it's basically 3 categories:

1 - Mic Vomit  (That bullshiat where they sound like they are growling and vomitting onto the mic)
2 - Metal-Step  (Mostly digital music)
3 - J/K-Metal  (Japanese/Korean aka babymetal and other such bands)

I understand there are a lot of people who are into J/K-Rock and if that's your thing more power to you, but I cannot stand it.

Most of the "good" metal that has been released in the last 4 years has come from metal bands at least a decade old if not longer.

Apparently there's a new Ozzy album coming out, Spotify just recommended a new single to me this morning.
 
2022-07-25 8:39:54 AM  

Petit_Merdeux: Today's music is like music of any other generation.

A lot of crap is produced that is quickly forgotten.

And some awesome stuff that will endure is also produced.

But yeah, yeah...your generation had the best music and these kids today...


This.
We're getting a resurgence of some absolute gems from the mid-80s; it's not like the charts today are also flooding full of all the tertiary Springsteen and Petty material, synthesizer/keytar ZZ Top, and the late-era Elton John and Billy Joel that was actually dominating the radio back then.
 
2022-07-25 8:41:46 AM  

Eightballjacket: seems like they all played their own instruments



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2022-07-25 8:43:54 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Today, all you need to make music is a synthesizer and a 50,000 watt speaker system that makes loud machinery noises


Kelis' Milkshake started playing in my head when I read that.

/which is funny because she did study music
 
2022-07-25 8:44:20 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: I don't know about ALL music, but today's metal absolutely sucks with few exceptions.

I tried going through spotify's new metal (no nu-metal) releases for the past couple of years and it's basically 3 categories:

1 - Mic Vomit  (That bullshiat where they sound like they are growling and vomitting onto the mic)
2 - Metal-Step  (Mostly digital music)
3 - J/K-Metal  (Japanese/Korean aka babymetal and other such bands)

I understand there are a lot of people who are into J/K-Rock and if that's your thing more power to you, but I cannot stand it.

Most of the "good" metal that has been released in the last 4 years has come from metal bands at least a decade old if not longer.

Apparently there's a new Ozzy album coming out, Spotify just recommended a new single to me this morning.


Blind Guardian and Battle Beast have some recent releases (yes, definitely been around a decade plus).  I'm certainly more of a folk metal fan, and some bands in that arena have been putting out some good stuff.  Corvus Corax has started their "Era Metallum" after their decade or two of medieval-style tunes.
 
2022-07-25 8:44:38 AM  
Marcus Aurelius:

Six Six Sixties (Remastered)
Youtube RzcZQ2NZa8w


Kids these days
 
2022-07-25 8:46:21 AM  

Petit_Merdeux: Marcus Aurelius: Today, all you need to make music is a synthesizer and a 50,000 watt speaker system that makes loud machinery noises

Kelis' Milkshake started playing in my head when I read that.

/which is funny because she did study music


I'm pretty sure that song was written by Swedish guy, because all music is written by Swedish guy, which is bad even if that guy started as metal musician and therefore knows  everything about music
 
2022-07-25 8:47:49 AM  
Xythero:

We've hit the wall as far as what electronic effects can do aurally.

What needs to happen now is a realignment on how these tools are used to compose in all genres
 
2022-07-25 8:50:00 AM  

natazha: NewportBarGuy: May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.

I think YouTube has had a nervous breakdown.  It's started recommending cuts from movies and TV shows and I virtually never watch either.  I have to name music by the artist to see any and even then I'll get a dozen covers for every real recording. Sorry, YouTube, but no one will ever cover a Linda Ronstadt song and do a tenth as good a job as she did.


Check out the school of rock videos
 
2022-07-25 8:50:21 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I kind of like the techno crap a bit... Some of it is pretty good, but no... it's not Fleetwood Mac or Creedence or early Pearl Jam... Hell early U2 was fantastic...

There's some good stuff out there if you look for it. I've been into the band Cannons recently and really like most of their stuff. Their covers are really good, original stuff too.

May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.


Techno crap??   (._. )     we cant be friends anymore.

/some of the best dance music came out of the 90s techno scene.
 
2022-07-25 8:52:05 AM  
The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band is pretty good.
 
2022-07-25 8:52:26 AM  

Petit_Merdeux: Today's music is like music of any other generation.

A lot of crap is produced that is quickly forgotten.

And some awesome stuff that will endure is also produced.

But yeah, yeah...your generation had the best music and these kids today...


Yeah, there's great music out there, you just have to sift through a lot more nonsense to find it.

The whole pop radio situation today is just like the Brill Building in the 50/early 60s. The industry just moves faster today, and at a whole different scale.
 
2022-07-25 8:53:22 AM  
Also ... This guy.
 
2022-07-25 8:53:50 AM  
Modern music needs more horn lines.
 
2022-07-25 8:53:56 AM  

raerae1980: NewportBarGuy: I kind of like the techno crap a bit... Some of it is pretty good, but no... it's not Fleetwood Mac or Creedence or early Pearl Jam... Hell early U2 was fantastic...

There's some good stuff out there if you look for it. I've been into the band Cannons recently and really like most of their stuff. Their covers are really good, original stuff too.

May sound weird, but listen to music on YouTube where you log in and they see what you listen to and suggest alternatives. Most of it is garbage, but some of it will turn you on to new things.

Techno crap??   (._. )     we cant be friends anymore.

/some of the best dance music came out of the 90s techno scene.


By techno he probably meant Beloved
 
2022-07-25 8:54:00 AM  
And never sell Brandi Carlisle short.
She's got mojo
 
2022-07-25 8:54:31 AM  
Radio station consolidation, A&R departments more focused on a single hit song, and moving away from a group of musicians playing in the same room at the same time to get the right feel to a take, these have had huge impacts on how music is made and consumed. None of it for the better.

At some point, independent local radio will start being a thing again as corporate profits dwindle and we'll see the cycle reset.
 
2022-07-25 8:54:31 AM  

urethra_franklin: Petit_Merdeux: Today's music is like music of any other generation.

A lot of crap is produced that is quickly forgotten.

And some awesome stuff that will endure is also produced.

But yeah, yeah...your generation had the best music and these kids today...

Yeah, there's great music out there, you just have to sift through a lot more nonsense to find it.

The whole pop radio situation today is just like the Brill Building in the 50/early 60s. The industry just moves faster today, and at a whole different scale.


Post some
Share and tell thread
 
2022-07-25 8:54:53 AM  

LewDux: Eightballjacket: seems like they all played their own instruments


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I was referring to when I was growing up in 70s and 80s.  Parts of the sixties are quite similar, not only did you have things like the Wrecking Crew to perform, you had Brill Building songwriters cranking out music.  But then times changes and a lot of performers wrote their own stuff.
 
2022-07-25 8:55:28 AM  
Juna Serita and Samantha Fish are both awesome
 
2022-07-25 8:55:52 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Music used to be written by people that actually studied music.  A lot of the popular bands from the 20th century had deep roots in either classical music training, or were brought up in households where everyone played a musical instrument.  Today, all you need to make music is a synthesizer and a 50,000 watt speaker system that makes loud machinery noises.


Yes, those dirty neg[oh my god, don't finish typing that word]'s and their music. Jazz and rock? Bunch of [grandpa, please stop].
 
2022-07-25 8:59:55 AM  
The pandemic definitely made an impact. There used to be new bands showing up routinely and now they're pretty rare. Lately it just seems like a lot of very young solo artists and frankly either their music is annoying because the artist is trying to be edgy or their music is super boring.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2022-07-25 9:01:16 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I very rarely listen to music anymore.  If I'm driving, exercising, cutting the grass, or cooking dinner, I'm listening to one of about two dozen podcasts or youtube channels.


They make residents cut the grass in your nursing home?!?!?!?
 
2022-07-25 9:01:50 AM  

AuralArgument: Xythero:

We've hit the wall as far as what electronic effects can do aurally.

What needs to happen now is a realignment on how these tools are used to compose in all genres


And new effects get overused by hacks. I remember getting heartily sick of fuzz-tone somewhere around 1969-1970.
Now that time has filtered all the hacks, I like it again.
 
2022-07-25 9:03:07 AM  

Another Government Employee: oldmanyelling.jpg

The problem is the songs are being produced from the top down, i.e. Label has a concept, hires a team of writers, then hires the session people. In the prior days, the musician built most of the album, then sold it to the label. The resulting product was more coherent.


Exactly, pop music is a product made my marketing teams and a handful of media companies have a strangle hold on the music industry and radio stations. They're choosing what people get to hear. There actually is a ton of good new music out now but you just never hear about it unless you're in the know. I found alot of good stuff but I had to put in work to find it.
 
2022-07-25 9:03:18 AM  

vudukungfu: urethra_franklin: Petit_Merdeux: Today's music is like music of any other generation.

A lot of crap is produced that is quickly forgotten.

And some awesome stuff that will endure is also produced.

But yeah, yeah...your generation had the best music and these kids today...

Yeah, there's great music out there, you just have to sift through a lot more nonsense to find it.

The whole pop radio situation today is just like the Brill Building in the 50/early 60s. The industry just moves faster today, and at a whole different scale.

Post some
Share and tell thread


Here's an older track, but Trampled by Turtles is fantastic.

Trampled By Turtles - Wait So Long
Youtube VmOtZXEw0iw
 
2022-07-25 9:05:18 AM  

vudukungfu: urethra_franklin: Petit_Merdeux: Today's music is like music of any other generation.

A lot of crap is produced that is quickly forgotten.

And some awesome stuff that will endure is also produced.

But yeah, yeah...your generation had the best music and these kids today...

Yeah, there's great music out there, you just have to sift through a lot more nonsense to find it.

The whole pop radio situation today is just like the Brill Building in the 50/early 60s. The industry just moves faster today, and at a whole different scale.

Post some
Share and tell thread


I'm a shoegaze / dream pop / jangle pop junkie, and Hatchie scratches that itch.

Hatchie - Sure (Live on KEXP)
Youtube njVJtWUZTK4
 
2022-07-25 9:06:38 AM  

Eightballjacket: LewDux: Eightballjacket: seems like they all played their own instruments


[th.bing.com image 850x850]

I was referring to when I was growing up in 70s and 80s.  Parts of the sixties are quite similar, not only did you have things like the Wrecking Crew to perform, you had Brill Building songwriters cranking out music.  But then times changes and a lot of performers wrote their own stuff.


Sorry, didn't know you meant completely different good old times
 
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