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2022-07-25 12:50:34 PM  
Ttteriffic.
 
2022-07-25 3:28:49 PM  
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2022-07-25 3:39:17 PM  
talk about a day late a a dollars short...

I'm glaring at you subby.

old news.
 
2022-07-25 4:12:20 PM  
I think the Flames did a pretty good job with a bad situation.  Matty had told them he wasn't going to re-sign, but late enough to make it extra challenging for the Flames to set something up.  You get Huberdeau and Weegar on bargain rates, even if it's only for a season, along with a good prospect and a 1st round pick; a team could do a lot worse for a guy who was limiting your potential trade partners.  Mr. Tkachuk, congratulations on getting paid.  Florida, good luck with that salary cap situation of yours.

Matthew Tkachuk Traded To Florida In Blockbuster Deal | Instant Analysis w/ @SteveDangle
Youtube Zz18oNIQoFo
 
2022-07-25 4:25:55 PM  

Polish Hussar: I think the Flames did a pretty good job with a bad situation.  Matty had told them he wasn't going to re-sign, but late enough to make it extra challenging for the Flames to set something up.  You get Huberdeau and Weegar on bargain rates, even if it's only for a season, along with a good prospect and a 1st round pick; a team could do a lot worse for a guy who was limiting your potential trade partners.  Mr. Tkachuk, congratulations on getting paid.  Florida, good luck with that salary cap situation of yours.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zz18oNIQoFo]


Huberdeau and Weegar have both said that they are open to signing an extension, but it's hardly likely that they would flat-out say the opposite before arriving.
 
2022-07-25 4:41:08 PM  
Glad it wasn't my team. I just can't root for that guy.
 
2022-07-25 4:52:25 PM  

knbwhite: Glad it wasn't my team. I just can't root for that guy.


He's the Kenny (The Rat) Linesman of Steve Avery's.
 
2022-07-25 4:52:33 PM  
Oh. I see. The subject of the article has a last name which features a letter combination that is unfamiliar to most north american english speakers. That's hilarious subby.
 
2022-07-25 5:02:15 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Polish Hussar: I think the Flames did a pretty good job with a bad situation.  Matty had told them he wasn't going to re-sign, but late enough to make it extra challenging for the Flames to set something up.  You get Huberdeau and Weegar on bargain rates, even if it's only for a season, along with a good prospect and a 1st round pick; a team could do a lot worse for a guy who was limiting your potential trade partners.  Mr. Tkachuk, congratulations on getting paid.  Florida, good luck with that salary cap situation of yours.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zz18oNIQoFo]

Huberdeau and Weegar have both said that they are open to signing an extension, but it's hardly likely that they would flat-out say the opposite before arriving.


I wonder how soon Calgary makes the call on whether they have a chance of keeping one or both of them?  Focusing only on the financial side, they'll both probably be due pretty nice raises when their contracts are up after this coming season, so that's going to complicate things for the Flames.  Even if they do currently have $9.3 million in cap space.  It's going to be interesting watching the Calgary's personnel moves this season, because that's going to reflect their judgement call on the odds of keeping them longer a fair bit.
 
2022-07-25 5:41:44 PM  

Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Polish Hussar: I think the Flames did a pretty good job with a bad situation.  Matty had told them he wasn't going to re-sign, but late enough to make it extra challenging for the Flames to set something up.  You get Huberdeau and Weegar on bargain rates, even if it's only for a season, along with a good prospect and a 1st round pick; a team could do a lot worse for a guy who was limiting your potential trade partners.  Mr. Tkachuk, congratulations on getting paid.  Florida, good luck with that salary cap situation of yours.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zz18oNIQoFo]

Huberdeau and Weegar have both said that they are open to signing an extension, but it's hardly likely that they would flat-out say the opposite before arriving.

I wonder how soon Calgary makes the call on whether they have a chance of keeping one or both of them?  Focusing only on the financial side, they'll both probably be due pretty nice raises when their contracts are up after this coming season, so that's going to complicate things for the Flames.  Even if they do currently have $9.3 million in cap space.  It's going to be interesting watching the Calgary's personnel moves this season, because that's going to reflect their judgement call on the odds of keeping them longer a fair bit.


It will depend on whether or not they remain productive with their new linemates under a new coaching system. Remember when BJ MacDonald got traded to Vancouver after a close-to-50-goal season? Glenn Sather's comment was that a fire hydrant could score 50 goals next to Wayne Gretzky.
 
2022-07-25 6:09:39 PM  

I dont want to be on this planet anymore: knbwhite: Glad it wasn't my team. I just can't root for that guy.

He's the Kenny (The Rat) Linesman of Steve Avery's.


Oof, I had to read up on those guys. I'm not sure TK is that bad.
 
2022-07-25 7:08:47 PM  
Taken from Sportsnet's off-season power rankings, with apologies to desertgeek:

30. Arizona Coyotes
Signing a veteran player like Nick Bjugstad is the perfect way to signal you want to lose, but lose with dignity.
31. Philadelphia Flyers
Admittedly, this is more of a statement placement; there's certainly a path to Philly not being stuck this far down in the muck. Still, what a perplexing off-season this squad has had after finishing fourth from the bottom last year. If there's a coherent plan to return this team to competitiveness, it has yet to reveal itself.
32. Chicago Blackhawks
This team is in the infant stages of a huge backward step. And if the Patrick Kane trade we all assume is coming before next year's trade deadline happens before or early in the season, it's going to be gruesome in the Windy City.
 
2022-07-25 8:12:00 PM  

Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Polish Hussar: I think the Flames did a pretty good job with a bad situation.  Matty had told them he wasn't going to re-sign, but late enough to make it extra challenging for the Flames to set something up.  You get Huberdeau and Weegar on bargain rates, even if it's only for a season, along with a good prospect and a 1st round pick; a team could do a lot worse for a guy who was limiting your potential trade partners.  Mr. Tkachuk, congratulations on getting paid.  Florida, good luck with that salary cap situation of yours.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zz18oNIQoFo]

Huberdeau and Weegar have both said that they are open to signing an extension, but it's hardly likely that they would flat-out say the opposite before arriving.

I wonder how soon Calgary makes the call on whether they have a chance of keeping one or both of them?  Focusing only on the financial side, they'll both probably be due pretty nice raises when their contracts are up after this coming season, so that's going to complicate things for the Flames.  Even if they do currently have $9.3 million in cap space.  It's going to be interesting watching the Calgary's personnel moves this season, because that's going to reflect their judgement call on the odds of keeping them longer a fair bit.


I would hope that the Flames would sort out if they can sign either of them by late December or the All Star break, based on what they just dealt with in regards to Gaudreau and Tkachuk. I doubt any signing is likely before the season starts and they see how they fit in with the team and city though. Weegar is probably the easier/more  likely to sign of the two but there is an outside chance of Huberdeau staying too.
As for the cap situation, they don't have many players signed beyond 2024 right now, so they have some flexibility in the coming years, even if they still view themselves in "Win now" mode.

Was hoping they would be able to get something decent or Tkachuk. Was stunned to see the actually deal, even with the 2 contacts expiring, that was a hell of a steal on Treliving's part.
 
2022-07-25 8:51:43 PM  

Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Polish Hussar: I think the Flames did a pretty good job with a bad situation.  Matty had told them he wasn't going to re-sign, but late enough to make it extra challenging for the Flames to set something up.  You get Huberdeau and Weegar on bargain rates, even if it's only for a season, along with a good prospect and a 1st round pick; a team could do a lot worse for a guy who was limiting your potential trade partners.  Mr. Tkachuk, congratulations on getting paid.  Florida, good luck with that salary cap situation of yours.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zz18oNIQoFo]

Huberdeau and Weegar have both said that they are open to signing an extension, but it's hardly likely that they would flat-out say the opposite before arriving.

I wonder how soon Calgary makes the call on whether they have a chance of keeping one or both of them?  Focusing only on the financial side, they'll both probably be due pretty nice raises when their contracts are up after this coming season, so that's going to complicate things for the Flames.  Even if they do currently have $9.3 million in cap space.  It's going to be interesting watching the Calgary's personnel moves this season, because that's going to reflect their judgement call on the odds of keeping them longer a fair bit.


Even though he's older than Tkachuk, I would not be surprised if Huberdeau's AAV on his new deal is actually a touch higher than what Tkachuk just signed for, especially if he puts up another 100pt season this year in Calgary.
 
2022-07-25 8:56:54 PM  

knbwhite: Glad it wasn't my team. I just can't root for that guy.


As a Kings fan, I would have taken him in a second, even with the "issue" between him and Doughty, which was fun to watch.

The Kings couldn't afford him but I've always enjoyed watching players like him that walk up to the line, cross it a bit but also take the consequences and put up points.

Esa Tikkanen, Pat Verbeek, Brendan Shanahan, Keith Tkachuk, Adam Deadmarsh and Ryan Smyth were a few that played the grit/pest game but had the skill to put up points. I hated those guys, until Deadmarsh was traded to LA (Smyth was too old/time to short for me to actually call him a King), but would have taken any on the Kings in their prime.
 
2022-07-25 9:10:25 PM  
The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!
 
2022-07-25 10:02:34 PM  

Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!


As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.
 
2022-07-25 10:12:01 PM  

Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.


Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.

_/The team really needs some Dmen so hopefully he gets to the cap floor that way
_/_/Klingberg would be much like Kadri, but taking short term cap dumps along with a pick or two would be a good thing
 
2022-07-25 10:25:49 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.

Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.

_/The team really needs some Dmen so hopefully he gets to the cap floor that way
_/_/Klingberg would be much like Kadri, but taking short term cap dumps along with a pick or two would be a good thing


It'll be interesting to see whether the Ducks choose to take on short-term salary dumps in exchange for picks to get to the cap floor or try to make longer term investments.
 
2022-07-25 10:48:41 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.

Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.


I'm suddenly thinking Naz might land in Calgary.  He's a solid 2nd/3rd line center and can easily slide into the RW if they want to load up that first line.
 
2022-07-25 10:49:16 PM  

Polish Hussar: Recoil Therapy: Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.

Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.

_/The team really needs some Dmen so hopefully he gets to the cap floor that way
_/_/Klingberg would be much like Kadri, but taking short term cap dumps along with a pick or two would be a good thing

It'll be interesting to see whether the Ducks choose to take on short-term salary dumps in exchange for picks to get to the cap floor or try to make longer term investments.


They're two years out (at least) from reasonable contention. They need to weaponize the cap space that they have and use it to get cap dumps from teams that have to shed it along with good picks/prospects as an incentive to take on those dumps and their bad contracts. Max of two, perhaps three years remaining on their contracts. Shrug, again we'll see.
 
2022-07-25 10:51:10 PM  

Flappyhead: Recoil Therapy: Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.

Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.

I'm suddenly thinking Naz might land in Calgary.  He's a solid 2nd/3rd line center and can easily slide into the RW if they want to load up that first line.


I could see that, it might even be enough to take Rev.K off of suicide watch...
 
2022-07-25 10:52:16 PM  
Sorry for the big block of text quotes, I'm on my phone and can't easily edit those out
 
2022-07-25 10:54:50 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Flappyhead: Recoil Therapy: Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.

Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.

I'm suddenly thinking Naz might land in Calgary.  He's a solid 2nd/3rd line center and can easily slide into the RW if they want to load up that first line.

I could see that, it might even be enough to take Rev.K off of suicide watch...


Speaking of Rev.K, we were making Edmonton jokes in the Ukraine war thread yesterday.  I should have paged him to the thread.
 
2022-07-25 11:11:36 PM  

Polish Hussar: Recoil Therapy: Flappyhead: Recoil Therapy: Polish Hussar: Flappyhead: The Atlantic Division; We're buying everybody!

As a Red Wings fan, I'm quite pleased with Yzerman's purchases so far this free agency period.

Yeah, he's done fairly well it looks like.  Verbeek's done a few little things for the Ducks so far, but they're still under the cap floor. That worries me as I hope he doesn't do something dumb like go after Kadri. NK would be great, but the team still has a couple years of seasoning ahead of them before being ready to run.  Paying him that much for those years would just be counterproductive if he's good enough to push them out of the top ten in the draft order.

We'll see.

I'm suddenly thinking Naz might land in Calgary.  He's a solid 2nd/3rd line center and can easily slide into the RW if they want to load up that first line.

I could see that, it might even be enough to take Rev.K off of suicide watch...

Speaking of Rev.K, we were making Edmonton jokes in the Ukraine war thread yesterday.  I should have paged him to the thread.


On his Sat night radio show thread he mentioned that he got/caught Covid and it's knocked him down a bit. On the way to recovery now though which is good.  With JG & MT leaving, the Covid thing, and his truck blowing up, it wasn't a good week for our resident Calgarian.  It didn't stop me from mocking him, let's not be silly, but it is good that he's on the mend.
 
2022-07-25 11:25:18 PM  

isthisme: knbwhite: Glad it wasn't my team. I just can't root for that guy.

As a Kings fan, I would have taken him in a second, even with the "issue" between him and Doughty, which was fun to watch.

The Kings couldn't afford him but I've always enjoyed watching players like him that walk up to the line, cross it a bit but also take the consequences and put up points.

Esa Tikkanen, Pat Verbeek, Brendan Shanahan, Keith Tkachuk, Adam Deadmarsh and Ryan Smyth were a few that played the grit/pest game but had the skill to put up points. I hated those guys, until Deadmarsh was traded to LA (Smyth was too old/time to short for me to actually call him a King), but would have taken any on the Kings in their prime.


He does have the skill, which I respect. My impression of Doughty is that he's similar, but not as bad. Maybe it's just my perception.
 
2022-07-25 11:52:29 PM  

Recoil Therapy: I could see that, it might even be enough to take Rev.K off of suicide watch...


F*ck Johnny.

F*cking asshole.

He's persona non grata in Calgary now.

We can win the Florida trade if Huberdeau and Weegar stay.
 
2022-07-26 12:38:37 AM  

Rev.K: Recoil Therapy: I could see that, it might even be enough to take Rev.K off of suicide watch...

F*ck Johnny.

F*cking asshole.

He's persona non grata in Calgary now.

We can win the Florida trade if Huberdeau and Weegar stay.


That's the Rev we all know and love. Good to have you back, buddy!
 
2022-07-26 10:59:11 AM  

knbwhite: I dont want to be on this planet anymore: knbwhite: Glad it wasn't my team. I just can't root for that guy.

He's the Kenny (The Rat) Linesman of Steve Avery's.

Oof, I had to read up on those guys. I'm not sure TK is that bad.


I don't know. Karma is biatch, and during the first game of the Oilers series he goaded Kane about his bankruptcy. Things went south for the Flames after that.
 
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