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(MSN)   NBC News offers a handy guide on how to steal gas at your local station   (msn.com) divider line
    More: Amusing, Fuel dispenser, Police, Filling station, gas prices, Theft, Convenience store, Gasoline, Dispensation  
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4493 clicks; posted to Main » on 18 Jul 2022 at 11:04 PM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-07-18 11:08:00 PM  
If you need a guide for handies to pay for gas, you might try to cut down on your use instead.
 
2022-07-18 11:11:22 PM  
Not news: poorly secured embedded systems are at risk of being compromised

Also not news: mechanical systems can be manipulated
 
2022-07-18 11:11:53 PM  

Summoner101: If you need a guide for handies to pay for gas, you might try to cut down on your use instead.


fark you commie! It's my god given right to blow my inheritance on a f350 dually and it's Brandon's fault I can't afford to fill it up for my 100 mile daily round trip commute to the bait and tackle shop where I sell trump memerobilia!
 
mjg
2022-07-18 11:14:41 PM  
Was hoping it was going to be a how-to like grape crushing journalist

Grape Lady falls (Original)
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2022-07-18 11:15:16 PM  
I had to go downtown today and parked at an Impark lot. When I got to the machine to pay it was asking for the service mode password. I assume someone had just got their daily free parking by knowing the default password.
 
2022-07-18 11:22:10 PM  
many Wayne fuel dispensers have a remote control option to allow station owners and fuel inspectors to easily access them

Dammit, Wayne!

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2022-07-18 11:24:35 PM  
Seems like a good idea to commit a felony (in a lot of places) at a merchant with a shiat ton of cameras and a vehicle.
 
2022-07-18 11:26:13 PM  
Damn, Farkers can be harsh. When an article is lazily written and has almost no details, the author gets slammed, but when an article like this is researched and actually dives into what's going on, the author gets slammed for being a narc.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2022-07-18 11:41:15 PM  
FTFA: "But it was only after Hurricane Katrina, where a drastic price increase led to more thefts, that most American stations began requiring customers to prepay for gas."
Meanwhile, way off in the distant land of Indiana, prepay has been in place since the 2000s gas price spike, with stern warning that leaving without paying will result in your license being taken away.
 
2022-07-18 11:47:41 PM  
It's an inside job. Thieves are installing a device inside the pump to circumvent the pulser that is supposed to measure flow.  I think Gilbarco, one the pump makers has a pulser that is supposed to detect tampering by also measuring the work done by the coil driving the pulser. If the work done doesn't match the metered amount, there's a problem. So thieves are shotgunning hoping for a score or are going where they know what to expect.


Is the default password the same as my fark code, 000000?

Oops, better change that to 123456.

If you get access to an employee's id # and know their birthday and phone, you can reset their password for the POS terminal. I think confirmation goes to the screen, not the phone. Not sure if you can change price.
 
2022-07-18 11:57:11 PM  
*opens up eBay*
 
2022-07-18 11:58:11 PM  

TerrorTony: FTFA: "But it was only after Hurricane Katrina, where a drastic price increase led to more thefts, that most American stations began requiring customers to prepay for gas."
Meanwhile, way off in the distant land of Indiana, prepay has been in place since the 2000s gas price spike, with stern warning that leaving without paying will result in your license being taken away.


Katrina was in 2005, was this "2000's gas price spike" before that?
 
2022-07-18 11:59:47 PM  

VoiceOfReason499: Damn, Farkers can be harsh. When an article is lazily written and has almost no details, the author gets slammed, but when an article like this is researched and actually dives into what's going on, the author gets slammed for being a narc.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Funny part is; these aren't the kinds of tips that are actually going to result in new thefts. The kind of people doing this shiat already know where to go to research this stuff... I thought it was gong to be tips for people like us. Like I saw a video where someone swapped the pump handle from one side to another so you'd be filling the wrong car.
 
2022-07-19 12:00:26 AM  
10 words too many
 
2022-07-19 12:29:33 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: *opens up eBay*


BOM best guess from video:

DC 6V 30RPM Speed Reduction Motor
PWM 1.8-12V 2A DC Motor Speed Switch Controller
2 9V batteries
Some bits and bobs to hold it down and something to act as a paddle

i.e. it's a farking motor

YMMV
 
2022-07-19 12:31:07 AM  
*Offer not valid in New Jersey. Most independent operators would slap the shiat out of you for farking with their pumps in these parts.
 
2022-07-19 12:56:03 AM  
The methods in TFA require a lot more planning and technical knowledge than the methods I saw when I was selling gas. The chain I worked for would let people pump first and pay after, so some people just tried to sneak away to avoid the "pay after" part.
 
2022-07-19 1:01:00 AM  
a handful of manufacturers that often don't include strong security protections.

heh, heh...the manufacturers aren't the ones eating the cost of stolen gas. They sell to the gas stations who do. If customers (gas stations, not you or me) don't demand security - because it costs more and doesn't return any immediate profit - that's their own fault.

Remember that company that paid millions of dollars in ransom for their data?  I used to work for them and IT was viewed as a cost rather than a benefit. I left years before the ransomware attack, but I was not surprised and I laughed.

The really pathetic thing is that's not enough information for anyone to figure out who I used to work for because it could be dozens of different ones with headquarters in the US or really any country in the world.


But it was only after Hurricane Katrina, where a drastic price increase led to more thefts, that most American stations began requiring customers to prepay for gas.


Does he mean that time Katrina & the Waves came to Houston? I saw them open for Don Henley in what is now Joel Osteen's church in the mid-80s and I think I remember having to pre-pay for gas back then. Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm sure that predated Hurricane Katrina. I do remember news reports of gas theft and people with locks on their gas caps. I've never had a lock on my own gas cap and I don't think I need one either.

In 1974 gas the gas crisis was so bad my parents bought a Fiat to replace our Mercury station Wagon, We could fit 2 adults and 3 children in it which is all we needed.  Great for going to the pool but terrible for family vacations. It was a 124.

And it was "vomit green" like this one:

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That's a 124 Special which is a 5-speed manual, but I think ours was only a 4-speed. I was too young to drive back then. Then my father got a raise or the gas crisis ended or maybe both and we got a big gas-guzzling '76 Suburban.

You should not confuse the 1974 Fiat 124 with the 1974 Fiat 124 Abarth Rally or the Spider:
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2022-07-19 1:35:28 AM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Seems like a good idea to commit a felony (in a lot of places) at a merchant with a shiat ton of cameras and a vehicle.


Stealing directly from the tanks while the station is unattended is easiest according to the article.

Removing/Switching license plates sounds like a good way to frame an enemy while you're at it.
 
2022-07-19 1:58:47 AM  
In olden times, one could cheat the pump by holding a large magnet near the analog/mechanical $/gal counter. It would slow or stop the numbers from turning

/allegedly

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2022-07-19 2:00:27 AM  
Here in the Upper Midwest not every place is prepay. My place , Kwik Trip , finally went prepay on Jan 3rd. Before that , yeah drive offs were a big problem and would have only got worse the way gas went up.
 
2022-07-19 2:23:46 AM  

pleasebelieve: TerrorTony: FTFA: "But it was only after Hurricane Katrina, where a drastic price increase led to more thefts, that most American stations began requiring customers to prepay for gas."
Meanwhile, way off in the distant land of Indiana, prepay has been in place since the 2000s gas price spike, with stern warning that leaving without paying will result in your license being taken away.

Katrina was in 2005, was this "2000's gas price spike" before that?


I wondered about that after I hit publish. It seems like the "prepay at the pump or inside" clamp down came before Katrina.
 
2022-07-19 2:31:24 AM  
What a sophisticated gasoline stealing tool may look like.

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2022-07-19 3:04:30 AM  

Schrodinger's toilet trained cat: In olden times, one could cheat the pump by holding a large magnet near the analog/mechanical $/gal counter. It would slow or stop the numbers from turning

/allegedly

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Are you a magnet salesman - because I want to try that now.

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./"How many batteries is this?" - Walter White
 
2022-07-19 3:17:37 AM  

My Sober Alt: Schrodinger's toilet trained cat: In olden times, one could cheat the pump by holding a large magnet near the analog/mechanical $/gal counter. It would slow or stop the numbers from turning

/allegedly

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Are you a magnet salesman - because I want to try that now.

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./"How many batteries is this?" - Walter White


Need an old school gas pump for that. I remember hearing that years ago before rare earth magnets were easily obtainable via internet.

Seems like to do that now you need to open the face of the pump to access the metering device.
 
2022-07-19 3:24:40 AM  

TerrorTony: FTFA: "But it was only after Hurricane Katrina, where a drastic price increase led to more thefts, that most American stations began requiring customers to prepay for gas."
Meanwhile, way off in the distant land of Indiana, prepay has been in place since the 2000s gas price spike, with stern warning that leaving without paying will result in your license being taken away.


Remember BP broke the gulf...
 
2022-07-19 3:26:54 AM  

SimonElectric: It's an inside job. Thieves are installing a device inside the pump to circumvent the pulser that is supposed to measure flow.  I think Gilbarco, one the pump makers has a pulser that is supposed to detect tampering by also measuring the work done by the coil driving the pulser. If the work done doesn't match the metered amount, there's a problem. So thieves are shotgunning hoping for a score or are going where they know what to expect.


Is the default password the same as my fark code, 000000?

Oops, better change that to 123456.

If you get access to an employee's id # and know their birthday and phone, you can reset their password for the POS terminal. I think confirmation goes to the screen, not the phone. Not sure if you can change price.


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But, hey, keep it to yourself.
 
2022-07-19 3:31:26 AM  
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2022-07-19 4:29:26 AM  

Tom-Servo: What a sophisticated gasoline stealing tool may look like.

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Cheech & Chong's Steal The Fuel
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2022-07-19 5:17:48 AM  
Taking Gas

(slang, surfing, of a surfer) To be knocked off one's surfboard by a wave.

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2022-07-19 7:35:22 AM  
So THIS is how to be Ghetto.

Got it!
 
2022-07-19 8:42:22 AM  
A "Christian" nation.
 
2022-07-19 11:09:01 AM  
If you didn't bother to change the remote's default password, I kinda don't have any sympathy for you.
 
2022-07-19 11:50:07 AM  

pleasebelieve: TerrorTony: FTFA: "But it was only after Hurricane Katrina, where a drastic price increase led to more thefts, that most American stations began requiring customers to prepay for gas."
Meanwhile, way off in the distant land of Indiana, prepay has been in place since the 2000s gas price spike, with stern warning that leaving without paying will result in your license being taken away.

Katrina was in 2005, was this "2000's gas price spike" before that?


There was a pretty drastic one after 9/11, but it didn't last a super long time.
 
2022-07-19 3:14:04 PM  
Gas stations, independents or otherwise, have given zero farks about skimmers or CC security for it's customers for decades.  Hear my tiny violin.  I live in one of the largest metro areas of the US and now I finally have ONE station that can use a contactless payment.  Not 100% secure, I know, but it took too long to get even there.

/insert your "use cash" comment here
 
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