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(CBS News)   President Biden says "the US will not walk away from the Middle East", forgets to add "next time for real, pinky swear"   (cbsnews.com) divider line
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2022-07-17 11:43:41 AM  
goddammit
 
2022-07-17 11:44:06 AM  
Now that Biden's kissed the pinky ring, oil prices will drop even further. He'll just need to keep kissing it to make sure OPEC doesn't screw everybody over again.
 
2022-07-17 11:52:15 AM  
The problem isn't Biden. It's the insanely inconsistent foreign policies under Republican administrations. Makes it difficult for other countries to trust us.
 
2022-07-17 11:54:27 AM  
Can't walk away from the Middle East while he's crawling on his hands & knees to MBS.

/Seriously. That visit was absolute cringe to look at!
 
2022-07-17 11:54:36 AM  
Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?
 
2022-07-17 11:57:56 AM  

Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?


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2022-07-17 12:00:40 PM  
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Good dogs get nice collars.
 
2022-07-17 12:01:58 PM  
OMG, the near-octogenarian white man who has spent his entire life in politics that we hired to mop up Trump's vomit turned out to be a Cold Warrior?
Fetch me my fainting pearls.
 
2022-07-17 12:03:15 PM  

Ragin' Asian: The problem isn't Biden. It's the insanely inconsistent foreign policies under Republican administrations. Makes it difficult for other countries to trust us.


Keeping a country from being wiped off the map simply so it can be wiped off the map at an undetermined time in the future is not an easy thing to manage.
 
2022-07-17 12:04:02 PM  

Therion: [Fark user image image 334x223]

Good dogs get nice collars.


You forgot the glowing orb of Saudi Arabia.

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Did Joe have to touch the Saudis' glowing balls?
 
2022-07-17 12:04:28 PM  

Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?


Sounds like the US should walk away.  Why are the Dems not doing it?  I know why maga wont.  They want the oil.

Dont tell me if you went to pelosi or biden or AOC and asked them on the record what is better, Oil or solar power? they would say oil.  They would absolutely say solar.  They would say green new deal.

Just get them on the record and start hammering every dem over the head with their record statements.  Non stop.  Go out there and make them uncomfortable.  Have twitter accounts set up to identify them in public so they can be shamed and harrased to end oil and involvement in the ME.   24 hours a day, hammer them.

ME problem solved.
 
2022-07-17 12:06:40 PM  

Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?


If you mean re-examine our role in the Middle East and take measured, mindful steps to reduce it and disentangle ourselves from the intrigues of those nations, I'm with you.
If you mean just let go of the tiger's tail all at once, no - we'd get bit.
I guarantee.
 
2022-07-17 12:06:47 PM  
Until fossil fuels become a fossil themselves, we're stuck dealing with them.
 
2022-07-17 12:07:32 PM  

jso2897: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

If you mean re-examine our role in the Middle East and take measured, mindful steps to reduce it and disentangle ourselves from the intrigues of those nations, I'm with you.
If you mean just let go of the tiger's tail all at once, no - we'd get bit.
I guarantee.


If the tiger bites, nuke it.
 
2022-07-17 12:07:52 PM  

wademh: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

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I am a strong supporter of humanitarian aid. I'm not convinced that our interest in the Middle East is primarily humanitarian.
 
2022-07-17 12:07:55 PM  
"the US will not walk away from the Middle East"

. . . until we no longer need oil.
 
2022-07-17 12:08:00 PM  

NeoCortex42: Until fossil fuels become a fossil themselves, we're stuck dealing with them.


Somebody is, if not us - so, yeah.
 
2022-07-17 12:09:31 PM  
The world has learned a lesson about the USA - every election can completely change how we deal with the world. No promise lasts longer than 8 years, and often far less.
 
2022-07-17 12:09:41 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: jso2897: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

If you mean re-examine our role in the Middle East and take measured, mindful steps to reduce it and disentangle ourselves from the intrigues of those nations, I'm with you.
If you mean just let go of the tiger's tail all at once, no - we'd get bit.
I guarantee.

If the tiger bites, nuke it.


You repeated failure to end your posts with the words "problem solved", as agreed in your gimmick account contract, is not acceptable. This is your last warning.
 
2022-07-17 12:09:44 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: jso2897: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

If you mean re-examine our role in the Middle East and take measured, mindful steps to reduce it and disentangle ourselves from the intrigues of those nations, I'm with you.
If you mean just let go of the tiger's tail all at once, no - we'd get bit.
I guarantee.

If the tiger bites, nuke it.


No. Don't help.
 
2022-07-17 12:12:18 PM  
Biden has had a lot of great quotes lately!

"keep alive the truth and honor of the Holocaust."

"God's great grift to the world."

"At the same time, the Israeli uh the Israilty of today is not the Is Israel of 50 years ago."

"The Palace the Palestinian people are hurting now you feel uh you can just feel it."

"We're never give up on the work peace."

"all 50 straits and the District of Combia"

"That's why when I came to office I reserved the policy I reversed the policies of my predecessor."

"Whether it's accelerating climate crisis dealing with accelerating climate crisis."

And from Word Salad;

"We've got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to take this seriously,"

Was Word Salad's speech writer doing double time and writing for dementia Joe?  No wonder she quit after 4 months.

"Vice President Kamala Harris' director of speechwriting, Meghan Groob, is leaving the office less than four months into the job"

https://www.politico.com/news/kamala-harris
 
2022-07-17 12:12:26 PM  

Bruscar: AmbassadorBooze: jso2897: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

If you mean re-examine our role in the Middle East and take measured, mindful steps to reduce it and disentangle ourselves from the intrigues of those nations, I'm with you.
If you mean just let go of the tiger's tail all at once, no - we'd get bit.
I guarantee.

If the tiger bites, nuke it.

No. Don't help.


If the tiger does not fear retaliation and total destruction, what will stop it from biting, even with slow disentangling?  The tiger is waiting to bite.  It isnt waiting to be let go so it can be free and peaceful.  It wants meat.
 
2022-07-17 12:17:47 PM  

Bruscar: wademh: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

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I am a strong supporter of humanitarian aid. I'm not convinced that our interest in the Middle East is primarily humanitarian.


How about hobbitarian aid in Turkey?
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2022-07-17 12:17:54 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Can't walk away from the Middle East while he's crawling on his hands & knees to MBS.

/Seriously. That visit was absolute cringe to look at!


Got any pics to back that up?

No you don't.

I bet you're still sad Trump couldn't arm the Saudis with nukes, talk about cringy cock sucking
 
2022-07-17 12:18:15 PM  
As long as Israel gets to continue their genocide right!?!
 
2022-07-17 12:18:41 PM  
We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology.  Bye Russia, go back to sleep Middle East, stop burning dinosaur food.
Green New Deal, enshrine our every right, build it here.  There is your platform Democrats.
 
2022-07-17 12:19:19 PM  

Bruscar: Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?


Two problems - their current state is incompatible with peace and stability, and the way the world works extends that effect well beyond their borders (it's the oil, of course).

Can't fix the problem, so we keep trying different patches.  They're all awful, and mostly involve getting different groups of people killed.  The important thing is they're all 'over there', and mostly a different religion and mostly a different ethnicity, so it's really easy to 'other' them and do whatever we think is in our own best interests without worrying about the ethics too much.
 
2022-07-17 12:19:54 PM  

Bruscar: wademh: Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?

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I am a strong supporter of humanitarian aid. I'm not convinced that our interest in the Middle East is primarily humanitarian.


I don't think it's even a minor component.

The spice must flow.
 
2022-07-17 12:28:48 PM  
Time to open up Iranian oil to the open market.
 
2022-07-17 12:32:09 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology.  Bye Russia, go back to sleep Middle East, stop burning dinosaur food.
Green New Deal, enshrine our every right, build it here.  There is your platform Democrats.


Yep
 
2022-07-17 12:33:12 PM  

Therion: [Fark user image 334x223]

Good dogs get nice collars.


After watching this clip that's been floated as Trump's bowing moment I realized that what went on there is Trump made a quick calculation in his head weighing the optics of appearing to bow against possibly disturbing his combover on the world stage and went with the bow.  Personally I think he should have had more faith in his hairspray.
 
2022-07-17 12:34:12 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology.  Bye Russia, go back to sleep Middle East, stop burning dinosaur food.
Green New Deal, enshrine our every right, build it here.  There is your platform Democrats.


But that's no fair to the oil companies who aren't getting any of that pie. You know how many retirement and pension plans depend on their stock prices? Why do you want Grandma eating cat food?

I know, we'll force cities to destroy emergency EV charging stations unless the station also provides free gas.
 
2022-07-17 12:41:05 PM  
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2022-07-17 12:43:37 PM  
I don't know why car batteries aren't leased.  Go to a gas station, swap batteries, and head out.
When the price comes down you could own two.  Charge one with your rooftop panels and switch them at night.
 
2022-07-17 12:45:22 PM  

gyruss: Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology.  Bye Russia, go back to sleep Middle East, stop burning dinosaur food.
Green New Deal, enshrine our every right, build it here.  There is your platform Democrats.

But that's no fair to the oil companies who aren't getting any of that pie. You know how many retirement and pension plans depend on their stock prices? Why do you want Grandma eating cat food?

I know, we'll force cities to destroy emergency EV charging stations unless the station also provides free gas.


I just went all in on whale oil futures.
 
2022-07-17 12:51:18 PM  
The U.S. actually has developed a workable relationship with the Middle East under Biden and even Trump, as much as he otherwise sucked. Mostly keep out of their affairs, build up economic ties so they don't look to China or Russia too much, and encourage but don't require human rights (that's more Biden than Trump).

Kind of fun fact: Afghanistan is usually not considered part of the Middle East.
 
2022-07-17 12:53:55 PM  

Ragin' Asian: The problem isn't Biden. It's the insanely inconsistent foreign policies under Republican administrations. Makes it difficult for other countries to trust us.


I've got terrible news for you about which countries actually trust us.
 
2022-07-17 12:57:52 PM  
He didn't say we wouldn't run. I'm thinking fly really fast in the opposite direction. We can carry on dialogue, diplomacy and sell them stuff over the internet. Keep an Embassy kiosk in a mall food court manned by a 20 something idealist with a script and unlimited phone plan.
 
2022-07-17 1:14:16 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Can't walk away from the Middle East while he's crawling on his hands & knees to MBS.

/Seriously. That visit was absolute cringe to look at!


You should have seen the last guy. This was almost hostile in comparison.
 
2022-07-17 1:45:06 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology.  Bye Russia, go back to sleep Middle East, stop burning dinosaur food.
Green New Deal, enshrine our every right, build it here.  There is your platform Democrats.

Yep


That kind of platform will win over every single left-leaning Farker, including me.

Problem is, we're not the ones who need convincing.

If you go into the crosstabs about why Joe isn't as popular as he should be, "high gas prices" and its close affiliate "inflation - due to high gas prices" are #1.

The US is not a dictatorship. To keep making progress, no matter how slow, we have to win elections.
 
2022-07-17 1:48:07 PM  

Bruscar: Why would it be bad for the USA to stop trying to parent the Middle East? Because our oil ended up under their sand? Because investing in solar energy is icky, hippy and patchouli stuff? Because defense industry corporations need them to buy American made weapons with the military aid we send them? Because "those" people can't possibly have the intelligence and maturity to run their own affairs?


Quite honestly, the most mind-boggling thing is why the US doesn't tell OPEC to pound sand, they've got alternative power ideas.

And they could have done that any day forward from the day of the nuclear power plant. Nevermind the crazy green energy alternatives we have now.

But hey. Maybe linking up with a theocratic state that considers atheists to be instant terrorists, like the Kingdom of Saud, is worth all of the effort?

WTF.
 
2022-07-17 1:53:43 PM  

misanthropicsob: Now that Biden's kissed the pinky ring, oil prices will drop even further. He'll just need to keep kissing it to make sure OPEC doesn't screw everybody over again.


All so we can set fire to hydrocarbons and make ourselves a brand new climate!
 
2022-07-17 2:44:38 PM  
There's the scene where the badass walks away from the flaming explosion he cause.

Then there's the scene where The Joker looks back "why didn't that explode?"

This feels more like everyone watching a Rube Goldberg device that makes an explosion.
 
2022-07-17 2:51:45 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology...There is your platform Democrats.


Dems have been campaigning on "energy independence" since I was a kid, and I'm old enough to have learned the metric system for about a year in elementary school.

Goddam it's stupid we're still using the Imperial measures.

The US and the enlightened, science powerhouse of...Myanmar.

Fark that's embarrassing.
 
2022-07-17 3:23:30 PM  

tekmo: Goddam it's stupid we're still using the Imperial measures.


Waving: sorry, the metric system had me threatening to commit suicide the one year we studied it. Most of the adults in my family came out fighting against the metric system like lives depended on it. Since then, we've learned we aren't just "bad" at math. The family is packed with dyscalculia. For some undiscernible reason, for most of us, our reading rate and comprehension is extremely high. Yet, I've had a graduate level classmate interrupt me while I was working practice problems to say things like "Bruscar, three plus two is not six. Three times four is not seven. You realize that you're supposed to be subtracting at that stage, right? Because you are adding."

We didn't know. Please accept my apology.
 
2022-07-17 3:51:44 PM  

Mr.Insightful: thealgorerhythm: Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology.  Bye Russia, go back to sleep Middle East, stop burning dinosaur food.
Green New Deal, enshrine our every right, build it here.  There is your platform Democrats.

Yep

That kind of platform will win over every single left-leaning Farker, including me.

Problem is, we're not the ones who need convincing.

If you go into the crosstabs about why Joe isn't as popular as he should be, "high gas prices" and its close affiliate "inflation - due to high gas prices" are #1.

The US is not a dictatorship. To keep making progress, no matter how slow, we have to win elections.


Commercials full laid off coal miners and oil workers getting jobs installing solar panels ...
 
2022-07-17 3:54:25 PM  

Private_Citizen: The world has learned a lesson about the USA - every election can completely change how we deal with the world. No promise lasts longer than 8 years, and often far less.


Treaties bind the USA, promises & agreements & accords do not.
That's why treaties require the consent of the Senate.
 
2022-07-17 5:26:42 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Commercials full laid off coal miners and oil workers getting jobs installing solar panels ...


Still won't overcome $6.00/gal gas prices. People don't actually care about those workers. Most people (or at least the swing voters) only care about themselves.
 
2022-07-17 8:51:24 PM  

tekmo: Billy Bathsalt: We need to make ourselves the world leader in renewable energy technology...There is your platform Democrats.

Dems have been campaigning on "energy independence" since I was a kid, and I'm old enough to have learned the metric system for about a year in elementary school.

Goddam it's stupid we're still using the Imperial measures.

The US and the enlightened, science powerhouse of...Myanmar.

Fark that's embarrassing.


To be fair, America's scientists use metric. It's only the non-scientists that still use Imperial.
 
2022-07-17 10:11:33 PM  

Al Tsheimers: AAAAGGGGHHHH: Can't walk away from the Middle East while he's crawling on his hands & knees to MBS.

/Seriously. That visit was absolute cringe to look at!

You should have seen the last guy. This was almost hostile in comparison.


Trump likes MBS because he has a mushroom for dictators. The more bloodthirsty, the better.

This thing with Biden though. I sure hope that Joe was able to remember the safe word.
 
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