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2022-07-12 8:35:17 PM  
Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.
 
Azz
2022-07-12 8:38:02 PM  
Is Grafton that town where they masturbate in public and do reverse body shots down the back and into the buttcrack?
 
Azz
2022-07-12 8:39:41 PM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


I know. But that's only because I vacationed in the white mountains a bunch of times and lived just north of Concord for a few years circa 2012-2015
 
2022-07-12 8:42:21 PM  
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2022-07-12 8:43:01 PM  
So are there lots of hungry bears in Acapulco, too?
 
2022-07-12 8:43:50 PM  
Not anarchists.
 
2022-07-12 8:45:07 PM  
It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"
 
2022-07-12 8:45:54 PM  
If Anarchists got theirselves just a little more organized, they'd be our Republicans.
 
2022-07-12 8:47:34 PM  
Again....my favorite part of any exercise in Galtsmanship is the inevitable catastrophic collapse of such efforts when those who are Galting discover that only grifters and sociopaths want to Galt.
 
2022-07-12 8:47:54 PM  
So lawless, rich hippie types with murder and felony theft as their baseline!  Yep, buy crypto so others will profit!

PS; was in Acapulco a few years back!  Very beautiful Bay!
 
2022-07-12 8:48:24 PM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


I know vaguely where that is, since my grandmother came from further north in Grafton County -- Haverhill/Bath area.
 
2022-07-12 8:48:38 PM  

Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"


Hey, fark your definition of anarchy, I'll define it any way I farking want
 
2022-07-12 8:49:08 PM  

BuckTurgidson: If Anarchists got theirselves just a little more organized, they'd be our Republicans.


The entire point of Galting is rugged individualism and self-reliance. Organizing is anathema to a Galtsman.
 
2022-07-12 8:52:23 PM  

Darfur Parkour: Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"

Hey, fark your definition of anarchy, I'll define it any way I farking want


Unacceptable!

I demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty.
 
2022-07-12 8:52:24 PM  
Ancaps are just the worst farking people. It's like they looked at late-stage capitalism and said "it's a good start, but how can we make it even worse?"
 
2022-07-12 8:57:27 PM  
It's really the least threatening political group," he added. "They are not politically active, they're philosophically opposed to even voting, and all they really want is peace and non-violence. I suppose they promote certain acts of civil disobedience, tax protesting. And I guess if it did catch on, if a lot of people took it on and ran with it, it would have an impact on the world. But in the end I think the core of it is not really that scary or dangerous."

Is this guy stupid?
Earlier in the article they talked about how the remnants are now focused on anti-vax and that guy with PTSD  threatening people.
But no they are all only peaceful people

And

Nathan Freeman saying he'd rather send his young kids to a porn set than to public school.

Yeah there was probably some kids being abused

for the most part the locals who are working there are just happy to have people coming back down and spending money."

Yep all the natives care about is the money White people bring to keep them fed, Mighty Whitey
 
2022-07-12 8:58:09 PM  

Azz: Is Grafton that town where they masturbate in public and do reverse body shots down the back and into the buttcrack?


Weird cults up there...
 
2022-07-12 8:58:34 PM  

Azz: Is Grafton that town where they masturbate in public and do reverse body shots down the back and into the buttcrack?


And something in the water causes men to grow giant breasts.
 
2022-07-12 9:00:08 PM  
*thousands of years of observed group human behavior: society needs rules or else shiat will spiral out of control*

anarchists, on their umpteenth attempt: 'surely thousands of years of observed group human behavior will be wrong ~this~ time'
 
2022-07-12 9:01:38 PM  

spongeboob: It's really the least threatening political group," he added. "They are not politically active, they're philosophically opposed to even voting, and all they really want is peace and non-violence. I suppose they promote certain acts of civil disobedience, tax protesting. And I guess if it did catch on, if a lot of people took it on and ran with it, it would have an impact on the world. But in the end I think the core of it is not really that scary or dangerous."

Is this guy stupid?
Earlier in the article they talked about how the remnants are now focused on anti-vax and that guy with PTSD  threatening people.
But no they are all only peaceful people

And

Nathan Freeman saying he'd rather send his young kids to a porn set than to public school.

Yeah there was probably some kids being abused

for the most part the locals who are working there are just happy to have people coming back down and spending money."

Yep all the natives care about is the money White people bring to keep them fed, Mighty Whitey


Sounds a lot like Tech~douche McAfee... rich, silicone valley asshole with Guns, drugs, and underage girl housemaids to "serve" him.

Sorry Mexico; we apologize for having our white, rich trash invade your nice place!
 
2022-07-12 9:02:16 PM  

ryebread: Ancaps are just the worst farking people. It's like they looked at late-stage capitalism and said "it's a good start, but how can we make it even worse?"


ancoonts
 
2022-07-12 9:03:47 PM  

Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"


I think you just described a libertarian Rainbow Gathering.
 
2022-07-12 9:14:04 PM  

Azz: Is Grafton that town where they masturbate in public and do reverse body shots down the back and into the buttcrack?


Thursdays, in the new rec field cook shack.
 
2022-07-12 9:21:17 PM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


Couldn't be much different from Marlborough NH. (knew it was roughly east of Lebanon).  It's the kind of place where a young feller might have a future plowing snow, poaching game, growing weed, being a dirty cop, or contracting on a house for the next Ghislaine Maxwell.

/Russell Banks captured the despair
 
2022-07-12 9:28:01 PM  

Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"


Anarchy is simply the temporary transitional state in between forms of order.
 
2022-07-12 9:33:19 PM  

PvtStash: Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"

Anarchy is simply the temporary transitional state in between forms of order.


Sacred Silence ...... Disorder ...... Sleep

Disorder is a form of order.
 
2022-07-12 9:33:31 PM  

Swampmaster: Sounds a lot like Tech~douche McAfee


As per TFA: "created by the Canadian entrepreneur, podcaster and cryptocurrency millionaire Jeff Berwick in 2015. Berwick, who made his first fortune in the dotcom boom and moved to Acapulco"
 
2022-07-12 9:36:13 PM  

iheartscotch: BuckTurgidson: If Anarchists got theirselves just a little more organized, they'd be our Republicans.

The entire point of Galting is rugged individualism and self-reliance. Organizing is anathema to a Galtsman.


Galting sounds like something you have to pay a hooker extra for.
 
2022-07-12 9:44:40 PM  
Anarcho-capitalists LOL.
 
2022-07-12 9:59:23 PM  
I'll wait for the Slateplanation.
 
2022-07-12 10:23:33 PM  
FTFA: The series dives deep into the personal motivations and complications for several members. Namely, Berwick; former Anarchapulco event organizers Nathan and Lisa Freeman, who moved to Mexico with their two young children in 2016 (a third was born in Acapulco) and are eventually pushed out by Berwick; John Galton and Lily Forester, a pseudonymous couple on the run from marijuana charges in Ohio who, disgruntled with the celebrification of Anarchapulco under Berwick, formed their own splinter conference, Anarchaforko

LOL

/I just wanted to point that out
 
2022-07-12 10:52:50 PM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


I went to Hanover High School, and while our sports teams always lost, our chant was "That's alright, that's ok- because you're going to work for us someday!"

PS: I did not have to use Google.
 
2022-07-12 10:58:28 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"

I think you just described a libertarian Rainbow Gathering.


I mean, it kinda sounds like a regular rainbow gathering?  Except everyone at a rainbow gathering is ok with it.

Also, people aren't assholes who just take stuff other people are clearly using. That must be the "libertarian" part.  Or maybe the "capitalist" part.
 
2022-07-12 11:15:13 PM  

iheartscotch: Again....my favorite part of any exercise in Galtsmanship is the inevitable catastrophic collapse of such efforts when those who are Galting discover that only grifters and sociopaths want to Galt.


Because if they didn't want to grift/fark over their fellow man they'd at least be anarchists without adjectives or Bakuninist.

I agree with the base premise of objectivism that there is a reality outside myself that is real whether observable to humans or not.

But, Basically everything after that always ends with "and that's why slavery should be allowable."

As for galtmanship. In a society of "alphas" no one wants to clean the toilets just ask Douglas Adams what happened when they killed all the telephone disinfectors.
 
2022-07-12 11:15:55 PM  

Nurglitch: Not anarchists.


Dumbasses on power trips. That is not really a political ... oh wait.
 
2022-07-12 11:17:45 PM  

talkyournonsense: I agree with the base premise of objectivism


... And that's when it declared itself a Nazi.
 
2022-07-12 11:27:55 PM  

Snapper Carr: It doesn't help when you have multiple definitions of anarchy.

"I don't have to pay taxes or pay people a living wage"

"I'm free to live how I choose as long as I don't interfere in the lives of others"

"If I want your shiat and I can take it, it's mine"


Which tends to turn into:

A.  Hell yes
B.  I get to decide what constitutes interference
C.  But you can't have my shiat that's unethical
 
2022-07-12 11:45:05 PM  

Rage Against the Thorazine: iheartscotch: BuckTurgidson: If Anarchists got theirselves just a little more organized, they'd be our Republicans.

The entire point of Galting is rugged individualism and self-reliance. Organizing is anathema to a Galtsman.

Galting sounds like something you have to pay a hooker extra for.


I mean...how else is a Libertarian supposed to live out his (women are extremely rare in Galtsman society) Dagny Taggart fantasies?
 
2022-07-12 11:47:27 PM  
"Let's go to a country one step up from a military dictatorship, set up camp in a town heavily dependent on American tourist dollars, and call ourselves 'anarchists'! Then we'll tell everyone how well it works!"
 
2022-07-12 11:52:57 PM  

talkyournonsense: iheartscotch: Again....my favorite part of any exercise in Galtsmanship is the inevitable catastrophic collapse of such efforts when those who are Galting discover that only grifters and sociopaths want to Galt.

Because if they didn't want to grift/fark over their fellow man they'd at least be anarchists without adjectives or Bakuninist.

I agree with the base premise of objectivism that there is a reality outside myself that is real whether observable to humans or not.

But, Basically everything after that always ends with "and that's why slavery should be allowable."

As for galtmanship. In a society of "alphas" no one wants to clean the toilets just ask Douglas Adams what happened when they killed all the telephone disinfectors.


Slavery AND no age of consent.

I understand that the government has problems (it absolutely does have problems). However...it seems less than constructive to burn everything down because it's not currently perfect or because that THAT act will somehow bring about an ideal society that only functions because of magic.

/ the difference between The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged is one is a a series of magical events and situations that would never work in the real world and the other is The Lord of the Rings...
 
2022-07-13 12:26:00 AM  

BuckTurgidson: talkyournonsense: I agree with the base premise of objectivism

... And that's when it declared itself a Nazi.


That's farking hilarious.

What do you think the base premise of objectivism is?
Did you read the rest of what I wrote?
I'm solidly anti-fascist. Anti-racist. Hardcore Feminist. Anarchist (not libertarian, anarchist).

But please tell me more about how you obviously know nothing about me or philosophy
 
2022-07-13 1:08:25 AM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


I'm guessing it's somewhere in NH, based on the headline. No need to know more.
 
2022-07-13 1:15:28 AM  
My friend's kid got into this thing about 5 years ago. He's a rather bright guy and he managed to get through homeschooling and went to public school for grades 9-12 and graduated with decent grades. Afterwards he was kinda aimless, and probably due to his parent's hands-off methods, didn't pursue college or any trades or traditional jobs. Instead he managed to support himself with buying and then selling things online or flea-markets and consignment shops. He'd also do odd jobs and day labor stuff.

He is innately curious and a voracious reader. At some point he got interested in libertarianism and around that time he heard about Anarchapulco. He had money to pay for the seminar/conference/WTF-ery and basic travel expenses. His folks put up a gofundme to get him some more cash to 'upgrade' his experience and I think he went down with another $1K or so (the events were happening around his 21st b-day so it was also a kind of present so he could celebrate his birthday). He had a great time.

When he came back energized and excited. He came back muddleheaded and at least partially cult-ified. It was a bit disturbing. I didn't seek him out but he was now of legal drinking age and I'd run into him at bars. Inevitably the Libertarian and Objectivist Anarchocapitalist stuff would come out. Inevitably I'd respond and engage him, usually with absurdity and sarcasm. He took my jibes  reasonably and in some small way it may have toned down his fanaticism.

But he'd enjoyed the experience and some of the people and planned to go again the following year. He maintained contacts with some of the people and shared some of their videos and posts. He saved up the money and went to the next Anarchapulco.

This time around he'd gone in with some of the people he'd befriended there and they had rented a pretty decent place. They all stayed a few days after Anarchapulco  It was going well... Until it wasn't. After a night of partying the group was back at the rented villa with guests and at 4 AM or so a bunch of guys with guns showed up. The bandits wore black head to toe with gloves and balaclavas and sunglasses. Nobody got hurt but all their money and phones and passports and anything else of value was taken.

After they'd talked to the Mexican authorities (a one-sided conversation where they were accused of being there to buy drugs) the cops left. They all sat around freaking out. After a bit one of the women said that she didn't think all of the people who robbed them were locals - she grew up and lived in southern Arizona and had been to Mexico 100s of times and spoke the language- she said that one and probably two of the guys sounded American. One guy said he'd seen one of the robber's wrists and he thought his skin was a bit pale. A few people began questioning the people who'd come over to hang out (did they know guys that robbed them?). The situation devolved into paranoia and accusations.

My friend's kid was better off than the others. He knew someone staying at a tourist hotel and they had put his money, phone, and passport into a safe. He bought a cheap phone when he got there. The rest had to deal with getting back into the States.

He didn't have much use for that scene after that and hasn't gone back. He continued his relatively aimless way but got away from Libertarian stuff, so that's nice. He's got a decent thing going now and is going to college.

/CSB?
 
2022-07-13 2:02:42 AM  

talkyournonsense: That's farking hilarious.

What do you think the base premise of objectivism is?


The basic premise of "objectivism" is, "fark you weakling I take what I want even if I don't know why I want it!".
 
2022-07-13 2:18:06 AM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


I do, but I live in Rochester, with family in Andover, Boscawen, and PIttsfield.
 
2022-07-13 3:38:04 AM  

Rage Against the Thorazine: iheartscotch: BuckTurgidson: If Anarchists got theirselves just a little more organized, they'd be our Republicans.

The entire point of Galting is rugged individualism and self-reliance. Organizing is anathema to a Galtsman.

Galting sounds like something you have to pay a hooker extra for.


A "Galt" is when you pay the hooker and she tells you "GFY" then leaves.
 
2022-07-13 3:49:53 AM  

talkyournonsense: iheartscotch: Again....my favorite part of any exercise in Galtsmanship is the inevitable catastrophic collapse of such efforts when those who are Galting discover that only grifters and sociopaths want to Galt.

Because if they didn't want to grift/fark over their fellow man they'd at least be anarchists without adjectives or Bakuninist.

I agree with the base premise of objectivism that there is a reality outside myself that is real whether observable to humans or not.

But, Basically everything after that always ends with "and that's why slavery should be allowable."

As for galtmanship. In a society of "alphas" no one wants to clean the toilets just ask Douglas Adams what happened when they killed all the telephone disinfectors.

base premise of objectivism that there is a reality outside myself that is real whether observable to humans or not.


Einstein and all of the subsequent Quantum Physicists would disagree.

so would astrophysicists.

everything is always in motion relative to everything else.

there is no "fixed point" in space-time that does not appear differently depending on your position and intent.

the idea that when you measure light as a wave you get results as a wave, but if you measure light as a particle it behaves like a particle is in there too.

it's all about perspective and context.
 
2022-07-13 4:31:38 AM  
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2022-07-13 4:32:42 AM  

Plane Guy: Actual Grafton resident here.  Waiting to see how many people know where I live without using google.


Pfft, easy. Northern NSW, on the Clarence River.
 
2022-07-13 5:09:42 AM  
Okay, so crypto is totally not a scam and a legit alternative to fiat currency.
All current government stuff needs to be 100% privatized because the government is mean and we don't want that.  Corporations are always honest, fair, and wouldn't dream of taking advantage of others.  Also corporations are not involved in legal stuff and don't need laws or government.
Tolls should be placed in multiple locations on all roads to pay for them, and it's totally better than a small tax on gasoline.  The fact that it would be prohibitively expensive for 95% of drivers is irrelevant to my invisible hand of the market sky wizard.
Every child needs to be home schooled since every adult can easily teach better than a professional, and I don't want to pay property taxes.
Got it, we've found people more stupider and less intelligenter than your average Trump enjoyer.
 
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