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2022-07-10 11:29:45 AM  
Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.
 
2022-07-10 11:39:41 AM  

cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.


I thought the "gag" was that the new Buzz is the real life person that the toy was based on?
 
2022-07-10 11:43:23 AM  

SpectroBoy: cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.

I thought the "gag" was that the new Buzz is the real life person that the toy was based on?


yes. I'm sorry I missed it, but I didn't grow up on Toy Story. It did look good. But it was an origin story for the toy the Tim Allen character was based on. If it had been ANOTHER Toy Story sequel and they cut Tim Allen out, then people would have a reason to to complain.
But, you know, some assholes just like to complain because they don't get everything they want in life.
 
2022-07-10 12:06:22 PM  
Funnily enough, Allen almost gets it went he says "it just doesn't seem to have any connection to the toy". Because the film isn't about the toy character he played

Besides if I want to see Tim Allen in space I'll start demanding a Galaxy Quest sequel
 
2022-07-10 12:42:38 PM  

no1curr: Besides if I want to see Tim Allen in space I'll start demanding a Galaxy Quest sequel


Except that Galaxy Quest was 23 years ago and Alan Rickman is no longer with us.

...I haven't seen any of the Toy Story movies nevertheless I get that they're two separate characters but wouldn't the toy character based on the movie character usually be voiced by the same guy? I think they just didn't like Tim Allen.
 
2022-07-10 12:49:30 PM  
Tom Hanks, you're a nice guy and everyone has nice warm feelings about you.  That being said you are also old and busted, and it's time for you to fade away and leave us with those nice feelings about you.
 
2022-07-10 1:06:53 PM  

aleister_greynight: Tom Hanks, you're a nice guy and everyone has nice warm feelings about you.  That being said you are also old and busted, and it's time for you to fade away and leave us with those nice feelings about you.


What the hell kind of comment is that?
 
2022-07-10 1:33:40 PM  

aleister_greynight: Tom Hanks, you're a nice guy and everyone has nice warm feelings about you.  That being said you are also old and busted, and it's time for you to fade away and leave us with those nice feelings about you.


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2022-07-10 1:36:33 PM  
According to the opening crawl, Andy got the buzz toy because it was the main character in his favorite movie,

This is that movie

I liked it, but then I only saw the dolors toy story
 
2022-07-10 2:06:55 PM  
Tim Allen does indeed suck.
 
2022-07-10 3:41:08 PM  

cretinbob: SpectroBoy: cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.

I thought the "gag" was that the new Buzz is the real life person that the toy was based on?

yes. I'm sorry I missed it, but I didn't grow up on Toy Story. It did look good. But it was an origin story for the toy the Tim Allen character was based on. If it had been ANOTHER Toy Story sequel and they cut Tim Allen out, then people would have a reason to to complain.
But, you know, some assholes just like to complain because they don't get everything they want in life.


I'd say they pretty effectively 'complained' at the ticket office, wouldn't you?


Tobey is SpiderMan
Tim is Buzz
Hanks is Woody
Etc., etc. Just because people recast new characters and fans reject it doesn't mean it's a GOP conspiracy. Jeezus.
 
2022-07-10 3:43:10 PM  
As he's aged, Hanks has started to sour a bit.  He's lost some perspective, and sense of humor.
 
2022-07-10 3:45:54 PM  
Golden Globes 2011 - Ricky Gervais Introduces Tom Hanks & Tim Allen
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2022-07-10 3:46:45 PM  

Slaxl: aleister_greynight: Tom Hanks, you're a nice guy and everyone has nice warm feelings about you.  That being said you are also old and busted, and it's time for you to fade away and leave us with those nice feelings about you.

What the hell kind of comment is that?


Tim Allen is not on our side.  Since Tom Hanks didn't immediately try and crucify him for not being on our side, Tom Hanks is also not on our side.  Therefore, he is bad and needs to go away.
 
2022-07-10 3:48:55 PM  

Kris_Romm: As he's aged, Hanks has started to sour a bit.  He's lost some perspective, and sense of humor.


I mean, Black Jeopardy was less than five years ago. Let's not burn him at the stake just yet.
 
2022-07-10 3:50:58 PM  
Allen also noted there was "no Buzz without (Hanks') Woody."

*siiigh* How can you be that old and yet that stupid. The film is not about the f*cking toy, dipshiat.
 
2022-07-10 3:55:13 PM  

Slaxl: aleister_greynight: Tom Hanks, you're a nice guy and everyone has nice warm feelings about you.  That being said you are also old and busted, and it's time for you to fade away and leave us with those nice feelings about you.

What the hell kind of comment is that?


I figured they're posting from Spahn Ranch...
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2022-07-10 3:56:49 PM  
Saw Lightyear and thought it was great, but that the opening credits trying to force a tie to the toy story franchise worked against it.  Its main idea is: "you can't un-do what mistakes you've made in the past; just forgive yourself and try to move forward and work to do the best with what you have, see where that leads."

A movie that 80's Andy would have been inspired to get the toy from would have been a more conventional, brainless, action-packed hero-type movie or, more likely, animated serial.  The story of a guilt-wracked egotist trying to undo his mistake in order to regain his hero status isn't toy story material in that sense, even though that's kinda Woody's thing in the first movie.
 
2022-07-10 3:57:31 PM  

Mugato: no1curr: Besides if I want to see Tim Allen in space I'll start demanding a Galaxy Quest sequel

Except that Galaxy Quest was 23 years ago and Alan Rickman is no longer with us.


I got this.

Twenty-three years later, Jason Nesmith (Tim Allen) is down on his luck . . . again. Facing dementia from late-stage syphilis, his fortune destroyed by legal fees for his defense against bestiality, he sees a revival of interest in the Galaxy Quest franchise as a new series launches with a wholly new crew. He tries to contact the Original Crew but is hampered by No-Contact orders and plucky young bodyguards who break both of his legs for trying to break into Guy Fleegman's apartment. At his wits end, he tries to contact the Thermians for help, knowing that only they could help him reclaim his former stardom, but at the finale of the movie he realizes that he's simply been hallucinating and trying to talk into a dead pigeon instead of a communicator. Roll credits.

In a post-credits scene we seen Nesmith crushed to death under a beryllium sphere as the Miners/Minors point and laugh.

/Call me, Hollywood, we can do this
 
2022-07-10 4:03:38 PM  

Krazikarl: Tim Allen is not on our side.  Since Tom Hanks didn't immediately try and crucify him for not being on our side, Tom Hanks is also not on our side.  Therefore, he is bad and needs to go away.


He's not on my side because of Forrest Gump. But then again there's Bosom Buddies so he's about even.
 
2022-07-10 4:07:10 PM  

Mugato: no1curr: Besides if I want to see Tim Allen in space I'll start demanding a Galaxy Quest sequel

Except that Galaxy Quest was 23 years ago and Alan Rickman is no longer with us.

...I haven't seen any of the Toy Story movies nevertheless I get that they're two separate characters but wouldn't the toy character based on the movie character usually be voiced by the same guy? I think they just didn't like Tim Allen.


Or trust him to keep his stupid opinions to himself.
 
2022-07-10 4:07:15 PM  

SpectroBoy: cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.

I thought the "gag" was that the new Buzz is the real life person that the toy was based on?


The movie opens with an explanation that the toy Andy had was based on a character from his favorite movie, and "Lightyear" is that movie.

It's not nearly as complicated as people who feel personally attacked by a casting choice in a children's movie would have you believe.
 
2022-07-10 4:07:52 PM  
Has anyone yet brought up that Tim Allen did cocaine 30 years ago, which is a very uncommon thing for wealthy celebrities?
 
2022-07-10 4:10:36 PM  
Tim Allen was cancelled by Disney in lightyear because of his opinions;  working on a Santa Clause series for Disney somehow doesn't count.
 
2022-07-10 4:14:15 PM  

Iowan73: SpectroBoy: cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.

I thought the "gag" was that the new Buzz is the real life person that the toy was based on?

The movie opens with an explanation that the toy Andy had was based on a character from his favorite movie, and "Lightyear" is that movie.

It's not nearly as complicated as people who feel personally attacked by a casting choice in a children's movie would have you believe.


Also, Tim Allen is 70-years-old. The character is in his mid...twenties?
If anything it should have been Patrick Warburton.
 
2022-07-10 4:16:51 PM  
With the exception of Galaxy Quest, I don't like Allen. I didn't like his stand-up and his comedy show roles were drab iterations of Father Knows Best and every other boomer happy piece of '50 thru 60s propaganda. And a powder cocaine dealer before all of it? Privilege personified.

But the internal logic argument about Buzz' doll having a distinct voice from its inspiration is not logical-- why would the doll's voice not be an imitation?

So, Allen, or his agent or whomever, must have played chicken about compensation or rights or credit and Disney found it quaint in a market where profits have steadily risen with population and innovations in distribution.

Which may be a reason to criticize Disney-- it's not like they've ever prioritized talent. Walt was as much a Nazi as Henry and though corporate culture is a long way from its founders' grotesque personal beliefs, Disney CEOs are no different from any of many monopoly seeking thugs.
Art? It's money. Logic? It's money.
 
2022-07-10 4:18:05 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Has anyone yet brought up that Tim Allen did cocaine 30 years ago, which is a very uncommon thing for wealthy celebrities?


Half a kilo isn't for personal use, sport-o. He was busted for trafficking cocaine. But don't let that get in the way of your post.
 
2022-07-10 4:19:04 PM  
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-pixar-movies-ranked/

The good news is it's better than the Cars movies.

The bad news is it's apparently worse than every other Pixar movie.
 
2022-07-10 4:19:34 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Chemlight Battery: Has anyone yet brought up that Tim Allen did cocaine 30 years ago, which is a very uncommon thing for wealthy celebrities?

Half a kilo isn't for personal use, sport-o. He was busted for trafficking cocaine. But don't let that get in the way of your post.


I won't.
 
2022-07-10 4:20:29 PM  
I get that Fark wants me to hate Tim Allen for political reasons, but that's just too much effort. I'll stick with never thinking much about the lives of celebrities outside of their art. I remain aggressively neutral towards the man.
 
2022-07-10 4:21:39 PM  

Mugato: no1curr: Besides if I want to see Tim Allen in space I'll start demanding a Galaxy Quest sequel

Except that Galaxy Quest was 23 years ago and Alan Rickman is no longer with us.

...I haven't seen any of the Toy Story movies nevertheless I get that they're two separate characters but wouldn't the toy character based on the movie character usually be voiced by the same guy? I think they just didn't like Tim Allen.


For what it us worth, the toy woody is voice by Tom Hanks' brother.
 
2022-07-10 4:27:36 PM  
OH MY GOD, THE DRUG DEALING SNITCH HAS BEEN CANCELLED

CAAAAAAAANCELLLLLEEEED!!

...
'cept he wasn't, he's been rewarded by "librul" Disney
https://dmedmedia.disney.com/news/disney-plus-tim-allen-to-reprise-the-santa-clause
 
2022-07-10 4:29:16 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Has anyone yet brought up that Tim Allen did cocaine 30 years ago, which is a very uncommon thing for wealthy celebrities?


You brought it up, dipshiat.
 
2022-07-10 4:29:17 PM  

solokumba: Tim Allen does indeed suck.


Dick for cocaine?
 
2022-07-10 4:31:51 PM  
fastfxr:

I'd say they pretty effectively 'complained' at the ticket office, wouldn't you?


Tobey is SpiderMan

Lol WuT
Spiderman: No Way Home: 1.901 billion USD
 
2022-07-10 4:34:21 PM  
I don't have any strong feelings about the Lightyear movie, but I did think it was funny seeing the movie poster in France last week. Over there he is apparently referred to as Buzz L'éclair.
 
2022-07-10 4:34:22 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Kris_Romm: As he's aged, Hanks has started to sour a bit.  He's lost some perspective, and sense of humor.

I mean, Black Jeopardy was less than five years ago. Let's not burn him at the stake just yet.


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2022-07-10 4:39:34 PM  

buravirgil: With the exception of Galaxy Quest, I don't like Allen. I didn't like his stand-up and his comedy show roles were drab iterations of Father Knows Best and every other boomer happy piece of '50 thru 60s propaganda. And a powder cocaine dealer before all of it? Privilege personified.

But the internal logic argument about Buzz' doll having a distinct voice from its inspiration is not logical-- why would the doll's voice not be an imitation?

So, Allen, or his agent or whomever, must have played chicken about compensation or rights or credit and Disney found it quaint in a market where profits have steadily risen with population and innovations in distribution.

Which may be a reason to criticize Disney-- it's not like they've ever prioritized talent. Walt was as much a Nazi as Henry and though corporate culture is a long way from its founders' grotesque personal beliefs, Disney CEOs are no different from any of many monopoly seeking thugs.
Art? It's money. Logic? It's money.


The most likely explanation is that Pixar thought this movie could launch another franchise over the next few years and preferred that the franchise be built around a guy in his early 40's rather than a guy in his late 60's.

But conservatives love to feel outrage over nothing.
 
2022-07-10 4:40:57 PM  

Mugato: I get that they're two separate characters but wouldn't the toy character based on the movie character usually be voiced by the same guy?

Narp.  Usually nobody cares enough to pay, so they get a near sound-alike or something.  Tom Hanks himself has his brother doing a lot of 'his' voice work.Real guy wouldn't be the actor in the fictionalized movies.  Voice actor in an animated series wouldn't be the same as the live action actor.  Toy voice might or might not be the same as the animated series voice actor.It actually makes more sense for the voice to be different than to be the same, though the kids don't give a damn anyway, and paying Chris Evans to do it instead of some far less famous voice actor was more than likely a decision based on a hope to draw in Captain America fans with kids.  Evans is a bigger name with parent-aged people than Allen.  The first Santa Clause was almost 30 years ago and Home Improvement's a bit older than that.
 
2022-07-10 4:44:26 PM  
I mean who hasn't woken up in their next door neighbor's kid's bed after a night of binge drinking and drug use.
(RDJ)

Disney really doesn't care what an Actor or Actress has done as long as they are still popular and relatively young.
 
2022-07-10 4:48:03 PM  

Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Has anyone yet brought up that Tim Allen did cocaine 30 years ago, which is a very uncommon thing for wealthy celebrities?

You brought it up, dipshiat.


So that's a no?
 
2022-07-10 4:53:46 PM  

Mugato: no1curr: Besides if I want to see Tim Allen in space I'll start demanding a Galaxy Quest sequel

Except that Galaxy Quest was 23 years ago and Alan Rickman is no longer with us.

...I haven't seen any of the Toy Story movies nevertheless I get that they're two separate characters but wouldn't the toy character based on the movie character usually be voiced by the same guy? I think they just didn't like Tim Allen.


And yet....Top Gun Maverick.
 
2022-07-10 4:56:26 PM  

Bslim: fastfxr:

I'd say they pretty effectively 'complained' at the ticket office, wouldn't you?


Tobey is SpiderMan

Lol WuT
Spiderman: No Way Home: 1.901 billion USD


Thanks to Tobey.
 
2022-07-10 4:58:31 PM  
Mugato: ...wouldn't the toy character based on the movie character usually be voiced by the same guy? I think they just didn't like Tim Allen.


Yes, and yes.

Tim Allen has become a polarizing figure, and it was much easier for Disney to just recast, and figure the flack they might get would be the lesser of two evils.
 
2022-07-10 5:02:44 PM  

whereisian: I get that Fark wants me to hate Tim Allen for political reasons, but that's just too much effort. I'll stick with never thinking much about the lives of celebrities outside of their art. I remain aggressively neutral towards the man.


At least for me it's not so much that he's a conservative. It's that he plays the "Wah I'm being discriminated against for being a conservative" card a lot when he's very obviously not. His show was kept on the air way past its expiration date, and as pointed out even though he's not Buzz in this movie Disney hired him to be Santa again. So, it's more his annoying persecution complex than his conservatism. Though now that I think of it they're kind of one-in-the-same these days
 
2022-07-10 5:08:04 PM  

TDWCom29: whereisian: I get that Fark wants me to hate Tim Allen for political reasons, but that's just too much effort. I'll stick with never thinking much about the lives of celebrities outside of their art. I remain aggressively neutral towards the man.

At least for me it's not so much that he's a conservative. It's that he plays the "Wah I'm being discriminated against for being a conservative" card a lot when he's very obviously not. His show was kept on the air way past its expiration date, and as pointed out even though he's not Buzz in this movie Disney hired him to be Santa again. So, it's more his annoying persecution complex than his conservatism. Though now that I think of it they're kind of one-in-the-same these days


Though, now that I think of it I'm only going off of what people in these threads are saying. He may only be complaining in general that he's not Buzz in the movie and not saying it's because he's conservative. He definitely did do that that when his show got canceled so it's not out of the realm of possibility this time
 
2022-07-10 5:17:55 PM  

cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.


I mean, growing up Garfield was the voice of Peter Venkman, and sometimes Donatello had the voice of muppet babies Skeeter and sometimes not. We rolled with it.
 
2022-07-10 5:19:55 PM  

Fano: cretinbob: Jesus farking Christ,, get over it. It wasn't the same character.

I mean, growing up Garfield was the voice of Peter Venkman, and sometimes Donatello had the voice of muppet babies Skeeter and sometimes not. We rolled with it.


It bothered me when they changed Ronald McDonald.  The new guy had a voice made for silent movies.
 
2022-07-10 5:24:01 PM  
That reads to me like Tom Hanks just isn't aware of the substantial mountain of bullshiat Tim Allen has buried himself in, which is reasonable since Hanks is an older dude and probably doesn't live on the internet.
 
2022-07-10 5:27:58 PM  

aleister_greynight: Tom Hanks, you're a nice guy and everyone has nice warm feelings about you.  That being said you are also old and busted, and it's time for you to fade away and leave us with those nice feelings about you.


You take your toy cartoons a little too super serious.
 
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