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(Slate)   In our rush to legalize the reefer, we've failed to recognize the very real risk posed by one of its most terrifying side effects: Scromiting. My friend Becky smoked three marijuanas and scromited to death, so this is very real and very serious   (slate.com) divider line
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2022-07-08 1:36:19 PM  
I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.
 
2022-07-08 1:40:06 PM  
So using Facebook "medical researchers" to create a illness and make up a name for it sounds as legit as the same medical "professionals" that claim horse dewormer cures covid.
 
2022-07-08 1:40:08 PM  
"Legalising pot seems like a common-sense policy but in fact, it's a public health disaster that the MJ industry is doing its darnedest to cover up," the author of the piece wrote, citing the rise of "scromiting" as a concern.

When you start talking about drunks vomiting until their shoes come up, maybe I'll listen to this bullshiat.  Not before.
 
2022-07-08 1:43:02 PM  
Well that's dumb.
 
2022-07-08 1:44:41 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


Agreed.....chuck this "theory" in the trash with all of the other fear mongering.

Interesting that they don't panic like this over booze.
 
2022-07-08 1:45:08 PM  
The amount of weed you need to smoke on a continual basis to exhibit this syndrome is enough that chances are that's all you're doing, every day, all the time. Never met anyone in person who experienced it but I have heard about people who did a couple of times.
 
2022-07-08 1:49:09 PM  
There is no substance under the sun which isn't harmful if you overindulge. Imagine if someone tried to ban alcohol because of the nasty effects of binging it?
 
2022-07-08 1:54:12 PM  
I was hoping this would have something to do with scrotuses. Scroti. Scrotums. Er, balls.
 
2022-07-08 1:54:17 PM  
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2022-07-08 1:58:48 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:06:57 PM  
Weed is used medically as an anti-emetic
 
2022-07-08 2:07:11 PM  
The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.
 
2022-07-08 2:07:16 PM  
The only weed panic that is real: you realize you're out and the store closes in 10 minutes and you live 15 minutes away
 
2022-07-08 2:07:52 PM  
It's not the only vomit portmanteau.

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2022-07-08 2:07:59 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:08:35 PM  

eurotrader: So using Facebook "medical researchers" to create a illness and make up a name for it sounds as legit as the same medical "professionals" that claim horse dewormer cures covid.


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2022-07-08 2:09:21 PM  
I've smoked weed near daily for almost 10 years, and never screamed nor vomited while doing so.

/Wait, what?
 
2022-07-08 2:09:26 PM  
I think it's a build up of anxiety. It's the symptoms I have when I get an anxiety attack. I'll feel the exact same way for days if I don't get myself out of the anxious thought patterns. Weed makes it exceptionally hard to recognize the irrational anxieties, which makes it impossible to confront them and negate the effects.
 
2022-07-08 2:09:58 PM  
But, I love "Wallace and Scromit"!
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2022-07-08 2:10:06 PM  
Meanwhile, easy access to guns leads to thousands of people killing themselves and others every year. But we can't regulate guns!
 
2022-07-08 2:11:06 PM  
Have never heard of it and have never heard of anyone vomiting after a smoke.

"It's also not a reason to fear the legalization of pot, experts say, though it is good for medical professionals to be familiar with the symptoms, which yes, can include loud vocal sounds."

I have made loud vocal sounds while high but usually it involved singing Pink Floyd lyrics really off key.

Pot should be legalized everywhere!
 
2022-07-08 2:11:09 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.


The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.
 
2022-07-08 2:11:24 PM  
Wallace and Scromit?

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2022-07-08 2:11:38 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


And that's what all my long time smokers said to me after I had an episode of CHS.
I've actually had two episodes and both times droperidol administered in the ER cleared it up.

So, not bullshiat. It's just rare.
 
2022-07-08 2:12:25 PM  
"all my long time smoker friends said"   <- I missed a word.
 
2022-07-08 2:12:26 PM  
In space no one can hear you scromit.
 
2022-07-08 2:12:38 PM  

capt_sensible: The amount of weed you need to smoke on a continual basis to exhibit this syndrome is enough that chances are that's all you're doing, every day, all the time. Never met anyone in person who experienced it but I have heard about people who did a couple of times.


The few who are affected have their choice to make:
1. Quit using and feel better.
2. Keep using and profusely vomit when they do.
 
2022-07-08 2:12:49 PM  
Things friends of mine have had ascribed to CHS:

1) influenza
2) gallbladder disease
3) menopause symptoms
4) cyclical vomiting syndrome

I know a lot of heavy smokers, and they simply don't have CHS, but they get accused of it. My friend who has CVS is usually forced to submit to a urine test before the ER staff will treat her.
 
2022-07-08 2:13:28 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:13:56 PM  
The only time I have ever thrown up high on weed is because I was shotgunning beers and doing shots of Stoli raspberry vodka.

The weed was not to blame. Basic 22 year old stupidity was. However, cottonmouth and vomiting is the farking worst. It was like chewed up crackers coming back up in slow motion.
 
2022-07-08 2:14:50 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:14:52 PM  
This is going to work. This is at least as believable as grade schoolers being taught CRT.
 
2022-07-08 2:15:17 PM  
for 50 years I've tried smoking enough until I scromit, unsuccessfully.
 
2022-07-08 2:15:33 PM  
Ive been a chronic MJ smoker for 30 years. Havent missed a day in decades. no vomiting here.

Just my experience take it for whatever its worth.

some friends are in their 60s same deal, no vomiting.

Im sure its possible that it does, just like some people turn red when they drink booze
 
2022-07-08 2:16:13 PM  
In the 1980s I smoked so much weed that the Zig Zag man had my face tattooed on his arm. Never threw up once.

In the 1990s I had one bowl of potato and leek soup from Au Bon Pain and was scromiting in the ER for twelve hours.

Fight the REAL menace: mall food court soup !
 
2022-07-08 2:18:22 PM  
"Do your own research." Like, read the 1945 LaGuardia report. It took Gupta 20 years of being anti-weed until he *finally* read it, in 13. This was on the front page of USA Today....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/08/sanjay-gupta-weed/2632181/
 
2022-07-08 2:18:24 PM  

atomic-age: Things friends of mine have had ascribed to CHS:

1) influenza
2) gallbladder disease
3) menopause symptoms
4) cyclical vomiting syndrome

I know a lot of heavy smokers, and they simply don't have CHS, but they get accused of it. My friend who has CVS is usually forced to submit to a urine test before the ER staff will treat her.


I've been diagnosed with chronic vomiting syndrome (just as fun as it sounds). I'm also a daily smoker, but quitting doesn't get rid of the symptoms (been there done that). If anything it makes it worse, since at least with a bong rip I can get some toast down when I have a flare up. Hope I don't have to deal with er docs lecturing in the future.
 
2022-07-08 2:19:02 PM  

Karma Chameleon: The only weed panic that is real: you realize you're out and the store closes in 10 minutes and you live 15 minutes away


worse....living in a non legal state.

/note to self, move from this god forbidden state and head to Colorado.
 
2022-07-08 2:19:44 PM  
Indeed. I never knew anyone who vomited after drinking too much.
 
2022-07-08 2:19:55 PM  

atomic-age: Things friends of mine have had ascribed to CHS:

1) influenza
2) gallbladder disease
3) menopause symptoms
4) cyclical vomiting syndrome

I know a lot of heavy smokers, and they simply don't have CHS, but they get accused of it. My friend who has CVS is usually forced to submit to a urine test before the ER staff will treat her.


And my wife who has suffered from CVS for over a decade has been mis-diagnosed as CHS.

CHS is real and rare.
I don't know why there's so much push back against a simple fact that cannabis can cause hyperemesis?

Cannabis can calm nausea, yes? That means it has a mechanism to alter one's digestive system. Why is it so difficult to believe that this mechanism may not work quite right for some people sometimes?

As for "scromiting"? What a stupid term and I'll never use it. It's hyperemesis.
 
2022-07-08 2:21:18 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:21:36 PM  
A friend was getting head when she puked on his balls.

Does that count?
 
2022-07-08 2:21:43 PM  

steklo: Karma Chameleon: The only weed panic that is real: you realize you're out and the store closes in 10 minutes and you live 15 minutes away

worse....living in a non legal state.

/note to self, move from this god forbidden state and head to Colorado.


Legal in New Mexico now and much cheaper than Colorado. You can always take a drive into Colorado and make a weekend of it.

Wife and I are in the planning stages of getting the fark out of Texas.
 
2022-07-08 2:22:15 PM  

Fu Manchu: I've smoked weed near daily for almost 10 years, and never screamed nor vomited while doing so.

/Wait, what?


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2022-07-08 2:22:16 PM  
I'm surprised the Facebook crowd didn't give this fake disease some sort of overtly racist name to really raise the concern level.
 
2022-07-08 2:22:23 PM  
I have in my life taken a bong rip so massive that I immediately coughed it back up, then coughed some more, then kept coughing, then kinda dry heaved a bit as I coughed up more resin coating from my lungs, then coughed a bit, by now I was laughing and coughing and crying and the snot added to the whole image.
I lived.
 
2022-07-08 2:23:06 PM  
Literally any time I have smoked weed I've been left vomiting for hours afterward.  It's actually painful.  Like my entire GI tract attempts to expel everything through the shortest possible path.  And when there's nothing left it just keeps trying just to make sure it got it all.

As a result, I couldn't speak to long term use but I also wouldn't call it a "condition".  I just am one of the unlucky few who can't enjoy the benefits of our new less-restrictive weed laws.

I have never heard of anyone else ever having this reaction until this article.  Nor has anyone else I've ever spoken to about it.

/sucks to be me
//glad everyone else can enjoy their weed though
 
2022-07-08 2:23:27 PM  
I have personally witnessed "scromiting" once. Weed had nothing to do with it. Jagermeister was the culprit.
 
2022-07-08 2:25:42 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I have in my life taken a bong rip so massive that I immediately coughed it back up, then coughed some more, then kept coughing, then kinda dry heaved a bit as I coughed up more resin coating from my lungs, then coughed a bit, by now I was laughing and coughing and crying and the snot added to the whole image.
I lived.


The only pain weed has ever caused me was from laughing too much at a movie (Johnny English during the scene where he swaps the muscle relaxer with the truth serum.) the back of my jaw and head hurt because I couldn't easily turn off the giggles.
 
2022-07-08 2:25:44 PM  
Let me know when the first person that's potted up on weed scrommits their way through a red light at a 4 way intersection and plows into van full of nuns.


/ Fark is still not your personal erotica site
 
2022-07-08 2:26:30 PM  

TurningHardWood: Literally any time I have smoked weed I've been left vomiting for hours afterward.  It's actually painful.  Like my entire GI tract attempts to expel everything through the shortest possible path.  And when there's nothing left it just keeps trying just to make sure it got it all.

As a result, I couldn't speak to long term use but I also wouldn't call it a "condition".  I just am one of the unlucky few who can't enjoy the benefits of our new less-restrictive weed laws.

I have never heard of anyone else ever having this reaction until this article.  Nor has anyone else I've ever spoken to about it.

/sucks to be me
//glad everyone else can enjoy their weed though


My wife had similar reactions to yours in the past and basically refuses outright to even attempt edibles. Which is fine. It's not for everybody.
 
2022-07-08 2:26:42 PM  

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2022-07-08 2:27:10 PM  
Hey hey hey, smoke weed every (other) day (to avoid the Scromit Comet).
 
2022-07-08 2:27:29 PM  

Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.


The top end locally is >35%. 20% is usually discount weed.
 
2022-07-08 2:27:55 PM  
Ehhh, never heard of that. The weed is probably much too strong for some people these days, including myself.
 
2022-07-08 2:28:34 PM  

Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.


Maybe they had to follow their dog around for a week.
 
2022-07-08 2:28:41 PM  

kmgenesis23: TurningHardWood: Literally any time I have smoked weed I've been left vomiting for hours afterward.  It's actually painful.  Like my entire GI tract attempts to expel everything through the shortest possible path.  And when there's nothing left it just keeps trying just to make sure it got it all.

As a result, I couldn't speak to long term use but I also wouldn't call it a "condition".  I just am one of the unlucky few who can't enjoy the benefits of our new less-restrictive weed laws.

I have never heard of anyone else ever having this reaction until this article.  Nor has anyone else I've ever spoken to about it.

/sucks to be me
//glad everyone else can enjoy their weed though

My wife had similar reactions to yours in the past and basically refuses outright to even attempt edibles. Which is fine. It's not for everybody.


I'm in the same boat.  Wasn't fun in my 20's the few times I tried.  Now, nearing 50, I'm in no rush to relive anything like those few experiences on the off chance edibles don't have the same result.
 
2022-07-08 2:30:23 PM  

Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.


We do :)

2000mg of THC also equates to about 2.5 full gram vape cartridges. You'd have to be doing all day, every day.
 
2022-07-08 2:30:29 PM  
Also, "In our rush to legalize the reefer..."

Rush? It's been decades.
 
2022-07-08 2:31:18 PM  
Fu Manchu:

Not drunk enough
 
2022-07-08 2:34:15 PM  

steklo: Karma Chameleon: The only weed panic that is real: you realize you're out and the store closes in 10 minutes and you live 15 minutes away

worse....living in a non legal state.

/note to self, move from this god forbidden state and head to Colorado.


True. I do remember the days of having to text a dealer and dreading getting no response or an "I'm out"

Get out if you can, for lots of reasons!
 
2022-07-08 2:34:41 PM  
Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is rare

then shut the f*ck up
 
2022-07-08 2:35:08 PM  

Madison_Smiled: I have personally witnessed "scromiting" once. Weed had nothing to do with it. Jagermeister was the culprit.


I got tired of scromiting too, so I quit drinking so much f*cking alcohol.
 
2022-07-08 2:35:47 PM  
I scromitted after doing some Jemkin at a Rainbow Party once. I had to eat a Tide pod to get it to stop.

/bullshiat story is bullshiat.
//both mine and the article's
 
2022-07-08 2:36:11 PM  

Fu Manchu: I've smoked weed near daily for almost 10 years, and never screamed nor vomited while doing so.

/Wait, what?


You're missing out, man.
 
2022-07-08 2:36:19 PM  

SumoJeb: I think it's a build up of anxiety. It's the symptoms I have when I get an anxiety attack. I'll feel the exact same way for days if I don't get myself out of the anxious thought patterns. Weed makes it exceptionally hard to recognize the irrational anxieties, which makes it impossible to confront them and negate the effects.


That's what the beer is for.
 
2022-07-08 2:36:48 PM  
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris scromit at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
 
2022-07-08 2:38:15 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I have in my life taken a bong rip so massive that I immediately coughed it back up, then coughed some more, then kept coughing, then kinda dry heaved a bit as I coughed up more resin coating from my lungs, then coughed a bit, by now I was laughing and coughing and crying and the snot added to the whole image.
I lived.


in college the 8 footer had a resin chamber on the slide. every now and again an amber would fall in and light it for the unsuspecting person a flight of stairs up.

We called it the tsunami. It did what you describe
 
2022-07-08 2:38:19 PM  

SpaceMonkey-66: Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.

Agreed.....chuck this "theory" in the trash with all of the other fear mongering.

Interesting that they don't panic like this over booze.


You can pass out from drinking and choke to death on your own vomit.

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2022-07-08 2:38:27 PM  
Unlikely tag is out back with the DTs after binging on dollar store vodka for a month, killing a family of four in its pickup truck, and will shortly die of liver failure.
 
2022-07-08 2:38:33 PM  
Saw this for the first time the other day on another page.  The closest someone could compare it(in their example) was old coots like myself who smoked it 30 years ago when the level of thc was low smoking this new stuff they are selling in the dispos and our old bodies are freaking the f out. Personally, I never got sick when I smoked it at 19.
I have however drank so much that when I was praying to the God commodus, it felt like my heaving was going to pull my testicles all the way up and out.
But let's focus on a few cases of people who can't handle their weed.
 
2022-07-08 2:39:14 PM  
1) It's real
2) It's rare
3) It's easily treatable by simply not ingesting any THC for a few days
4) The big talk about all of this is just conservatives doing their usual FUD
 
2022-07-08 2:40:56 PM  
Kind of like saying that we didn't have hangovers until Prohibition was lifted.

If it exists, how does it matter if dope is legal or not?

"No, he didn't OD on heroin.  Heroin is illegal; he can't have overdosed on it."
 
2022-07-08 2:41:39 PM  

Flincher: Wife and I are in the planning stages of getting the fark out of Texas.


We rage-quit Texas a few months ago. Best decision of my adult life, especially because of the legal weed in VA.

I miss HEB tho.
 
2022-07-08 2:42:07 PM  
Scromiting is a stupid name but Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome is real. It's not debilitating, and certainly not a reason for criminalizing it, but it is a very real and sucky thing for chronic users of very high (80-90%) THC oils.
 
2022-07-08 2:43:10 PM  
Scromitus is my Norwegian death metal band name.
 
2022-07-08 2:43:12 PM  

lakefivedi: for 50 years I've tried smoking enough until I scromit, unsuccessfully.


We all have our mountains to climb.  Some mountains are just *ahem* higher.
 
2022-07-08 2:43:32 PM  

jimmyjackfunk: Saw this for the first time the other day on another page.  The closest someone could compare it(in their example) was old coots like myself who smoked it 30 years ago when the level of thc was low smoking this new stuff they are selling in the dispos and our old bodies are freaking the f out. Personally, I never got sick when I smoked it at 19.
I have however drank so much that when I was praying to the God commodus, it felt like my heaving was going to pull my testicles all the way up and out.
But let's focus on a few cases of people who can't handle their weed.


Forty years ago the rich kids were smoking very potent weed, I hung out with them and the only scromiting was from whiskey or large beer funnels.
 
2022-07-08 2:43:44 PM  
Just you wait. Repugs hate the pot too.
 
2022-07-08 2:43:47 PM  
It's not the amount, it is the product itself - it is contaminated. I had this "scromiting" (I don't scream, but I had a constant need to vomit, hard) when I was smoking an ounce of flower a month. I switched dealers and it went away. Now I do a gram of shatter and a gram of flower plus some edibles a day. I haven't had this "scromiting" since, and only that one time. Personally I suspect unflushed of neem oil treated plants.
 
2022-07-08 2:43:52 PM  

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: A friend was getting head when she puked on his balls.

Does that count?


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2022-07-08 2:44:13 PM  
Republicans are still trying to figure out how to codify the laws so that white people can do it, but non-whites will get punished for it.
 
2022-07-08 2:44:34 PM  
Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.
 
2022-07-08 2:45:57 PM  

patricula: Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.


It's rare.

So shut up.
 
2022-07-08 2:45:59 PM  

Begoggle: Republicans are still trying to figure out how to codify the laws so that white people can do it, but non-whites will get punished for it.


The draconian pot laws were first passed because Nixon wanted to arrest and put black people and anti Vietnam protesters in prison for no reason.
 
2022-07-08 2:46:48 PM  
What are the odds that someone smoking 'the reefer' just had the munchies so bad they ate some sus food and got food poisoning?
 
2022-07-08 2:48:01 PM  

patricula: Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.


Educate us all then?  If it's not rare, why has it never been mentioned until now?
Explain why marijuana needs to be illegal too.
Let's ban all bread products because a small number of people are allergic to gluten.
Let's ban alcohol and tobacco too, for even more obvious reasons.
 
2022-07-08 2:48:12 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.

The top end locally is >35%. 20% is usually discount weed.


I'm in Ohio (yeah, yeah, I know) and dispensaries here usually have low end stuff around 15% for cheap. I think the highest I've seen locally is 37%. It was incredibly overpriced. I just got my usual which is 23-24%. Prices for dispensaries are usually pretty close to black market in the area. ($90 - $140 for a half ounce depending on quality and brand)  All medical - no recreational here yet.
 
2022-07-08 2:48:40 PM  

patricula: Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.


Lmao at going to bat for the Daily Mail.
 
2022-07-08 2:49:16 PM  
I actually have cannabinoid hyperemesis.  After smoking heavily in youth, then quitting for years, then trying it again a few times later in life I learned even a very small amount of weed will render me hugging-the-toilet nauseous for hours.

The 100%-effective cure, it turns out, is not to ban cannabis for everyone else but for myself just to stay away from weed.
 
2022-07-08 2:51:03 PM  
the medical write ups i seen on the more current situation some people have had, where they get nausea and vomiting, but a hot shower seems to help.
In these cases it was deemed an allergic type reaction and if i recall rightly, has only been foudn in people who use concentrates(hash) a whole lot daily

first hand xp story;

when i was maybe 7 or 8 i could go to a neighbors house a few doors down, he was a mid 20 something college guy. being polite to my mom (single and working full time) he said i could come over and hang out whenever.

So one day i figure to test if this is true and decide to go and find out what's happening at his place.
He's not home, but his roommate and his friends are. There are three of them and they are just about to start a game of Risk, and decide a fourth player would be better and the kid can play too, and "deal me in."

why yes, they were getting high, why do you ask?

but for real i had my first experience then and there, not smoking any mind you, they were better than that.
But i did sit around and play risk for the next three hours while they smoked weed out a little pipe.
I recall many specific things from that moment, which all went on to influecne how i approached weed when i was an early teen later.

1: I knew it was something potentially sketchy as the roommate got a little upset at someone who threw the seeds and stems into a pot belly stove in the living room. He said he was worried the guy who had invited me to the house would smell it and had told him already he wouldn't allow it in the house. this was in tx in the early 80's, a roach could get you real jail time. So i immeditly understood not to mention any of this to my mom or other adults i knew.


2:yeah it smelled odd, but they all got a bit goofy and giggly, as a kid it just made them feel more relatable really. And they were clearly enjoying themselves so yeah that might be fun maybe i should check this out some day


and finally the weird


3:and then suddenly out of left field one of the guys at the table says in a really happy excited sounding voice: oh shiat guys, i think i'm going to throw up. Like he was literally smiling about it as he said it. he then went of to the rest room and we hear him heaving a bit and little chuck into the toilet sound but not much. the  he comes back all smiles and excited, guys i totally barfed. Still all smiles and his buds all giggly happy like this is fun.
this just totally blew my little kids brains all out. throwing up sucks, throwing up is like one of the worst things when you're 8. WTF is going on here? Is barfing going to be fun when i get older?

No barfing never got fun, those guys were just high as chit. and on some brickass weed at that.
 
2022-07-08 2:51:59 PM  
Well now I'm convinced, we need to outlaw peanuts.
 
2022-07-08 2:52:02 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:52:13 PM  
Thank god nothing like that ever happens from drinking alcohol.
 
2022-07-08 2:52:54 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.


In my prime, a quarter ounce through the glass gobbler was not impossible in a day

But it wasn't the norm
 
2022-07-08 2:52:58 PM  

kmgenesis23: TurningHardWood: Literally any time I have smoked weed I've been left vomiting for hours afterward.  It's actually painful.  Like my entire GI tract attempts to expel everything through the shortest possible path.  And when there's nothing left it just keeps trying just to make sure it got it all.

As a result, I couldn't speak to long term use but I also wouldn't call it a "condition".  I just am one of the unlucky few who can't enjoy the benefits of our new less-restrictive weed laws.

I have never heard of anyone else ever having this reaction until this article.  Nor has anyone else I've ever spoken to about it.

/sucks to be me
//glad everyone else can enjoy their weed though

My wife had similar reactions to yours in the past and basically refuses outright to even attempt edibles. Which is fine. It's not for everybody.


Yeah, mrs b can't either.  Not scromiting, just hypersensitivity to the psychoactive compounds and a tendency to have really bad trips.

(Add her multiple sclerosis to the mix, where that kind of high anxiety triggers relapses, and weed is just not even remotely worth it for her.)

I read somewhere, like 25 years ago, that about 5% of people are hypersensitive like that.  In my experience as a stoner being around other stoners, that sounds about right.  Approximately.  (And some of them like it...)

And it's orders of magnitude higher than CHS occurrence.
 
2022-07-08 2:53:37 PM  
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2022-07-08 2:53:52 PM  
If it's so freaking rare, why are we getting ER docs yelling "deadly epidemic" from the rafters? I think big pharma is genuinely scared for their bottom line, and folks who spend tons of blood sweat and tears getting an MD degree will do as they are told.
 
2022-07-08 2:54:32 PM  

johnphantom: It's not the amount, it is the product itself - it is contaminated. I had this "scromiting" (I don't scream, but I had a constant need to vomit, hard) when I was smoking an ounce of flower a month. I switched dealers and it went away. Now I do a gram of shatter and a gram of flower plus some edibles a day. I haven't had this "scromiting" since, and only that one time. Personally I suspect unflushed of neem oil treated plants.


This is an explanation I will buy.
 
2022-07-08 2:54:54 PM  

Begoggle: patricula: Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.

Educate us all then?  If it's not rare, why has it never been mentioned until now?

I've known about it for years so this is on you.

Explain why marijuana needs to be illegal too.

Why? I don't think it should be. The article isn't saying it should be illegal either.

Let's ban all bread products because a small number of people are allergic to gluten.
Let's ban alcohol and tobacco too, for even more obvious reasons.


You're really seeing something in my comments that aren't there and it's weird.

I'm responding to the people who are saying that because this is the Daily Mail and that they have no experience with CHS that CHS is fake/bullshiat/people can't handle pot/anxiety blah blah blah.

Of course it doesn't help that they're trying to tie this very real syndrome with "scromiting". That's just stupid.
 
2022-07-08 2:55:18 PM  

Fu Manchu: I've smoked weed near daily for almost 10 years, and never screamed nor vomited while doing so.

/Wait, what?


Oh I've definitely screamed plenty since trump was elected, but I have not vomited since June 29, 1980.
 
2022-07-08 2:55:52 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


It's real. It's a big problem, too.

My wife has constant pain as a result of a car accident she was in years ago. For a long time, doctors would give her all the opiods she asked for, and she was able to live a normal life. Now that opiods are off the menu, all the pain management doctors have been able to do comes down to "Think happy thoughts".

So she used green medicine. That's when we found out she has CHS. It's gotten so bad I've had her admitted to the hospital half a dozen times because she's so dehydrated.

Since living without pain relief is unmanageable, we've been trying to balance occasional weed use with periods of weed fasting. We've managed to go three years without her having to go to the hospital, but it is always touch and go and a constant trial.

I really wish we could just go back to opiods. Some people farking need them.
 
2022-07-08 2:55:58 PM  

patricula: Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.


Yeah, I remember the summer of love, surrounded by hordes of screaming, puking hippies.

It isn't ignorance* to not know about something that is rare enough to be statistically insignificant. Especially if you have been surrounded by people who fit the alleged category of "possible scromitter" but have never witnessed a single "YEEEEEAAAAAHBLARFAAAAAAgaspAAAAAAAABLGRMFspitAAAAAAAAAHUUKHUUKAAAH."

* accusatory claim of ignorance, as in "you should know better," not simply lack of knowledge.
 
2022-07-08 2:58:52 PM  

MLWS: What are the odds that someone smoking 'the reefer' just had the munchies so bad they ate some sus food and got food poisoning?


I can get greedy and not too discerning when I wake up in the middle of the night with the munchies, and I do have a bit of an iron stomach.
 
2022-07-08 3:00:26 PM  

KCinPA: Have never heard of it and have never heard of anyone vomiting after a smoke.

"It's also not a reason to fear the legalization of pot, experts say, though it is good for medical professionals to be familiar with the symptoms, which yes, can include loud vocal sounds."

I have made loud vocal sounds while high but usually it involved singing Pink Floyd lyrics really off key.

Pot should be legalized everywhere!


I have vomited after smoking and here is how it goes.

I can drunk, I usually don't but I can drink 12 or so beers before I have to worry about puking and I never go that hard anymore.
I can smoke pot, I usually don't and if I do I tend to not really like it like I did in my 20s.

BUT if I have 4 bees or more and try pot... boom I puke
 
2022-07-08 3:00:36 PM  

kindms: Ive been a chronic MJ smoker for 30 years. Havent missed a day in decades. no vomiting here.

Just my experience take it for whatever its worth.

some friends are in their 60s same deal, no vomiting.

Im sure its possible that it does, just like some people turn red when they drink booze


Obviously, MJ makes you forget vomiting, or forgiting.
 
2022-07-08 3:00:44 PM  

Flincher: steklo: Karma Chameleon: The only weed panic that is real: you realize you're out and the store closes in 10 minutes and you live 15 minutes away

worse....living in a non legal state.

/note to self, move from this god forbidden state and head to Colorado.

Legal in New Mexico now and much cheaper than Colorado. You can always take a drive into Colorado and make a weekend of it.

Wife and I are in the planning stages of getting the fark out of Texas.


We make our escape to Albuquerque as soon after December 27 as humanly possible.

/Houston area
 
2022-07-08 3:01:10 PM  
Did anyone else ready this as, 'Scrotuming'?  Asking for a friend.
 
2022-07-08 3:02:09 PM  

PvtStash: and then suddenly out of left field one of the guys at the table says in a really happy excited sounding voice: oh shiat guys, i think i'm going to throw up. Like he was literally smiling about it as he said it.


Did he get drunk first?

Cuz one sure way to make me vomit uncontrollably is to get me drunk and then give me weed.  Weed first, then vodak, no problem.  Vodak then weed, just call me mr huggybowl.

1 - it's apparently a known thing among potheads.
B: I believe it's an inner ear thing, or a jangling of the signals therefrom.
III. uhhhh, I forgot what this one was

/wait, why did I come in here again?
 
2022-07-08 3:03:09 PM  

covalesj: Did anyone else ready this as, 'Scrotuming'?  Asking for a friend.


I'd like to "scrotum" Becky.

//the now adult one
 
2022-07-08 3:03:25 PM  
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2022-07-08 3:04:26 PM  
According to flyover MAGAts, California will soon become a vast wasteland of dispensaries and scromitoriums.
 
2022-07-08 3:05:10 PM  

leviosaurus: Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.

It's real. It's a big problem, too.

My wife has constant pain as a result of a car accident she was in years ago. For a long time, doctors would give her all the opiods she asked for, and she was able to live a normal life. Now that opiods are off the menu, all the pain management doctors have been able to do comes down to "Think happy thoughts".

So she used green medicine. That's when we found out she has CHS. It's gotten so bad I've had her admitted to the hospital half a dozen times because she's so dehydrated.

Since living without pain relief is unmanageable, we've been trying to balance occasional weed use with periods of weed fasting. We've managed to go three years without her having to go to the hospital, but it is always touch and go and a constant trial.

I really wish we could just go back to opiods. Some people farking need them.


Pain management has gotten so wrapped up in politics in this country it is absolutely maddening. The people really suffering are patients unlucky enough to be dealing with chronic pain, and the doctors are all afraid of losing their hard earned licenses, many of them just innocently wanting to help people. Nixon started us down this horrible path and it's a damn shame.
 
2022-07-08 3:06:25 PM  
Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel:

It isn't ignorance* to not know about something that is rare enough to be statistically insignificant


I agree and if I could edit my comment I would. "Ignorance" is the wrong word.

What's a better word for a person when presented with new information they respond with "bullshiat/fake news" just because it doesn't match their personal experience?

And I'm not talking about  "errr.... I've never heard of this even with X years of smoking so I'll wait for a more reliable source." which would be reasonable. I'm talking about the ones speaking with 100% confidence declaring this BS/fake.

/ Tapping out
// Remembering why I don't participate in online discussions
/// My writing is terribly unclear and probably comma spliced to high heaven
 
2022-07-08 3:08:30 PM  

patricula: atomic-age: Things friends of mine have had ascribed to CHS:

1) influenza
2) gallbladder disease
3) menopause symptoms
4) cyclical vomiting syndrome

I know a lot of heavy smokers, and they simply don't have CHS, but they get accused of it. My friend who has CVS is usually forced to submit to a urine test before the ER staff will treat her.

And my wife who has suffered from CVS for over a decade has been mis-diagnosed as CHS.

CHS is real and rare.
I don't know why there's so much push back against a simple fact that cannabis can cause hyperemesis?

Cannabis can calm nausea, yes? That means it has a mechanism to alter one's digestive system. Why is it so difficult to believe that this mechanism may not work quite right for some people sometimes?

As for "scromiting"? What a stupid term and I'll never use it. It's hyperemesis.


It would've been helpful for the article - or anyone, really - to provide the actual statistics regarding the rarity of CHS among cannabis users. Or any statistics, really. This smacks of the same panicky publication that came out 3-4 years ago.

The thing is, no one's sure just how rare it is yet, and there isn't enough data to formulate a useful figure. Reports have increased since 2004 because public exposure and usage has increased, yes, but there's so much crosstalk right now about causes, susceptibility, etc., etc., that it's hard to get a clear picture. We've got folks claiming that CHS is triggered by high levels of THC and requires genetic predisposition - and those folks are happy to sell you a susceptibility test. We've got folks claiming that that no one's sure which of the hundreds of compounds in cannabis causes it, but that it's incurable. There are anecdotes - and I have to stress that - ranging from "it's incredibly rare" to "I see it every week." There are claims of CHS-related deaths, but quantification appears non-existent.

It's not a "new panic", though. Fun point - Alice Moon, the person in the 2019 article by Business Insider (my second link), is the same one quoted in this article. She's been talking about this for rather a long time.
 
2022-07-08 3:09:07 PM  
Where the fark is the "Fake" tag, because not having it on this is pretty farking disingenuous.
 
2022-07-08 3:10:59 PM  

Hills-Sachs_Legion: Meanwhile, easy access to guns leads to thousands of people killing themselves and others every year. But we can't regulate guns!


Well, yeah. Because the right to scromit is not mentioned in the Constitution.

Chunkblow, lurgetards.
 
2022-07-08 3:11:20 PM  

Lambskincoat: leviosaurus: Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.

It's real. It's a big problem, too.

My wife has constant pain as a result of a car accident she was in years ago. For a long time, doctors would give her all the opiods she asked for, and she was able to live a normal life. Now that opiods are off the menu, all the pain management doctors have been able to do comes down to "Think happy thoughts".

So she used green medicine. That's when we found out she has CHS. It's gotten so bad I've had her admitted to the hospital half a dozen times because she's so dehydrated.

Since living without pain relief is unmanageable, we've been trying to balance occasional weed use with periods of weed fasting. We've managed to go three years without her having to go to the hospital, but it is always touch and go and a constant trial.

I really wish we could just go back to opiods. Some people farking need them.

Pain management has gotten so wrapped up in politics in this country it is absolutely maddening. The people really suffering are patients unlucky enough to be dealing with chronic pain, and the doctors are all afraid of losing their hard earned licenses, many of them just innocently wanting to help people. Nixon started us down this horrible path and it's a damn shame.


Well that and no regulation of the drug industry, which caused the problem. People in end stages of life should not have opiates denied to them. However, I think it should be regulated to like (specifically) 10 5mg hydrocodone for serious injuries like breaking a bone. Just wildly prescribing whatever opioid is current is not the way to go, obviously.

I know a few people that died of opiates, one a close friend. He got addicted because they prescribed him the old oxycodone for a break in his wrist. Deal with the pain, the risk of addiction is too high.
 
2022-07-08 3:13:06 PM  
Cool. Now do alcohol.
 
2022-07-08 3:15:02 PM  

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Uh, if a bunch of psychiatrists are pushing for the legalization of marijuana, I'm going to side with the psychiatrists. Especially when the 'other side' is some paranoid alcoholic surrounded by a bunch of criminals.
 
2022-07-08 3:15:24 PM  
But what about the beloved UK claymation series, Wallace and...

Hold on for a tic.

*** scrolls thread ***

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: But, I love "Wallace and Scromit"!
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Damn it.
 
2022-07-08 3:15:36 PM  

FormlessOne: patricula: atomic-age: Things friends of mine have had ascribed to CHS:

1) influenza
2) gallbladder disease
3) menopause symptoms
4) cyclical vomiting syndrome

I know a lot of heavy smokers, and they simply don't have CHS, but they get accused of it. My friend who has CVS is usually forced to submit to a urine test before the ER staff will treat her.

And my wife who has suffered from CVS for over a decade has been mis-diagnosed as CHS.

CHS is real and rare.
I don't know why there's so much push back against a simple fact that cannabis can cause hyperemesis?

Cannabis can calm nausea, yes? That means it has a mechanism to alter one's digestive system. Why is it so difficult to believe that this mechanism may not work quite right for some people sometimes?

As for "scromiting"? What a stupid term and I'll never use it. It's hyperemesis.

It would've been helpful for the article - or anyone, really - to provide the actual statistics regarding the rarity of CHS among cannabis users. Or any statistics, really. This smacks of the same panicky publication that came out 3-4 years ago.

The thing is, no one's sure just how rare it is yet, and there isn't enough data to formulate a useful figure. Reports have increased since 2004 because public exposure and usage has increased, yes, but there's so much crosstalk right now about causes, susceptibility, etc., etc., that it's hard to get a clear picture. We've got folks claiming that CHS is triggered by high levels of THC and requires genetic predisposition - and those folks are happy to sell you a susceptibility test. We've got folks claiming that that no one's sure which of the hundreds of compounds in cannabis causes it, but that it's incurable. There are anecdotes - and I have to stress that - ranging from "it's incredibly rare" to "I see it every week." There are claims of CHS-related deaths, but quantification appears non-existent.

It's not a "new panic", though. Fun point - Alice Moon, the person in the 2019 article by Business Insider (my second link), is the same one quoted in this article. She's been talking about this for rather a long time.


I am sure it is contamination. I had this disease where I was in the shower 5 times a day for relief. I KNOW I had it. It was from smoking a gram a day, which is not a lot, and I smoke a whole lot more than that just this morning now. I only had the sickness from that batch of flower that I bought by the ounce. It went away quickly after stopping smoking the contaminated flower.
 
2022-07-08 3:15:41 PM  

patricula: What's a better word for a person when presented with new information they respond with "bullshiat/fake news" just because it doesn't match their personal experience?


"New information."?
Wait - you are saying that you actually think we haven't heard this and every other article of anti-pot okey-dokey all our lives?
This is old, stale shiat -  long debunked and not worth discussing.
Government shill "doctors" were saying that pot causes convulsive vomiting back in the sixties - lie then, lie now.
A tiny number of people will choke to death taking a drink of water.
We do not warn potential water drinkers of this danger, as some sort of PSA.
This is the equivalent.
 
2022-07-08 3:15:48 PM  
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2022-07-08 3:17:11 PM  

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I've been to several NuMetal shows. I'd say the fans leaned towards the more fascist side.
 
2022-07-08 3:17:14 PM  

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...I need to smoke more weed.
 
2022-07-08 3:17:20 PM  
Big Pharma's getting scared
 
2022-07-08 3:18:07 PM  

Gonz: Flincher: Wife and I are in the planning stages of getting the fark out of Texas.

We rage-quit Texas a few months ago. Best decision of my adult life, especially because of the legal weed in VA.

I miss HEB tho.


My wife's aunt lives in VA. We were up there for a week and hit all the DC hotspots, Port City Brewing in Alexandria. Loved it but way too damn expensive and, I am a chile hound and NM is just perfect for myself and my wife. Glad you got out.
 
2022-07-08 3:18:16 PM  
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2022-07-08 3:18:21 PM  

Gonz: Flincher: Wife and I are in the planning stages of getting the fark out of Texas.

We rage-quit Texas a few months ago. Best decision of my adult life, especially because of the legal weed in VA.

I miss HEB tho.


Same, 25 years ago this past January. Best thing I ever did, right up there with my vasectomy and my LASIK. I go back to visit family every couple of years to remind myself why I left.
 
2022-07-08 3:19:22 PM  
My son was diagnosed with CHS a couple years ago. I'd never heard of it and was astounded. I've been a life-long smoker, including hash, and would consider myself a heavy user. But CHS? Never saw it among friends or myself and never heard of it till my son's diagnosis. Rare but definitely real.
Now he just quits for a while and it goes away. Never any screaming, though. Weird.

/bong rip
 
2022-07-08 3:19:26 PM  

PvtStash: 3:and then suddenly out of left field one of the guys at the table says in a really happy excited sounding voice: oh shiat guys, i think i'm going to throw up. Like he was literally smiling about it as he said it. he then went of to the rest room and we hear him heaving a bit and little chuck into the toilet sound but not much. the  he comes back all smiles and excited, guys i totally barfed. Still all smiles and his buds all giggly happy like this is fun.
this just totally blew my little kids brains all out. throwing up sucks, throwing up is like one of the worst things when you're 8. WTF is going on here? Is barfing going to be fun when i get older?


I've seen people throw up from weed, but only after a massive hit that they couldn't cough fast enough or hard enough and their body basically just throws up from the stress. I've been a daily smoker for 20 years, and I've seen people throw up maybe a grand total of 3 times (when drinking wasn't also involved). When I was just starting, I used to get to this weird spot where I would basically produce a huge amount of saliva like I was going to puke, but never felt nauseous. I haven't had that happen in years and years though.
 
2022-07-08 3:19:43 PM  
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2022-07-08 3:24:36 PM  

patricula: Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.

And that's what all my long time smokers said to me after I had an episode of CHS.
I've actually had two episodes and both times droperidol administered in the ER cleared it up.

So, not bullshiat. It's just rare.


That's a new Farkie - *Known Scromiter
 
2022-07-08 3:28:30 PM  

steklo: Karma Chameleon: The only weed panic that is real: you realize you're out and the store closes in 10 minutes and you live 15 minutes away

worse....living in a non legal state.


Congratulations on living somewhere more backwards than Oklahoma.
 
2022-07-08 3:30:25 PM  

bughunter: bughunter: PvtStash: and then suddenly out of left field one of the guys at the table says in a really happy excited sounding voice: oh shiat guys, i think i'm going to throw up. Like he was literally smiling about it as he said it.

Did he get drunk first?

Cuz one sure way to make me vomit uncontrollably is to get me drunk and then give me weed.  Weed first, then vodak, no problem.  Vodak then weed, just call me mr huggybowl.

1 - it's apparently a known thing among potheads.
B: I believe it's an inner ear thing, or a jangling of the signals therefrom.
III. uhhhh, I forgot what this one was

/wait, why did I come in here again?



nope no boozahol was present, i had a close relative alcoholic and was somewhat keenly aware of intoxicated adults being present. none of that appeared to be going on, just the brick weed.

and yeah i know about that.
lot o pot, no problem
lot o booze, not a problem
little pot and booze, that could be a problem

i carried an odd hard line about never mixing drugs for many decades when i was younger.
one high at a time.
 
2022-07-08 3:31:02 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.


I can smoke an eighth in a day if I'm feeling super heroic and there's no kids or work to worry about.

I can't even imagine doubling that intake. maybe if i was eating extra strong edibles and hitting a top shelf vape every day, I could consume close to a quarter  in a day. but i only have the space to do so maybe one day every couple months. and I'd be fried to a crisp for a few days after I think
 
2022-07-08 3:31:08 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


It's Slate doing an article about a Daily Mail article.  What the fark did you expect?
 
2022-07-08 3:31:33 PM  
Humans have been cultivating and using cannabis for 4,000 years. Nowhere within this vast span of time does the literature - anecdotal and medical - ever mention anything resembling "cannabinoid hypermesis syndrome." That's a recent invention by anti-weed forces. Don't fall for it.
 
2022-07-08 3:32:12 PM  
Is "scromiting" anything like this?

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2022-07-08 3:32:39 PM  
I've smoked daily for over 20 years. And I know so many people are "hurrr durr this shiat is fake because it doesnt happen to me and look at willie nelson and snoop dogg so ITS FAAAAKE..."

Its not.

A very good friend of mine ended up in the hospital multiple times with severe dehydration due to this problem. I witnessed it firsthand on several occasions.. the last time he was in the hospital, he was told his kidneys were fragged from severe dehydration and he was due for a transplant if he wound up in there one more time. Sadly, without cannabis he lost the battle with depression in December...so...  :(
 
2022-07-08 3:35:40 PM  

Shocktopus: Chunkblow, lurgetards.


Chunkblow Lurgetards?  Wasn't he in Space Mutiny?
 
2022-07-08 3:36:01 PM  
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2022-07-08 3:36:38 PM  
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2022-07-08 3:37:07 PM  

lakefivedi: for 50 years I've tried smoking enough until I scromit, unsuccessfully.


my longitudinal research has only been 35 years but it's ongoing and also unsuccessful.
 
2022-07-08 3:37:41 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


A couple years ago I worked with a girl (Jasmine) who developed this condition. She smoked a lot of cannabis - mostly wax. It was a super real thing and she missed a ton of work because of it. I do not think it was BS in her case.

Myself, I have been a regular user of cannabis Flower mostly with a bit of edibles and even less vape) for over 40 years and have never personally experienced this issue.

Jasmine was the 1st and only person I know of 1st hand that did experience this horrific condition, but I think smoking such large quantities of super potent wax might have something to do with it.

I don't know what you've heard and to you it may be the most BS BS you personally have heard in your life, but that doesn't make it false.
 
2022-07-08 3:37:59 PM  
Meanwhile, booze and prescription meds continue to kill hundreds of thousands every year. No biggie, though.
 
2022-07-08 3:42:59 PM  
I don't see any reefer in here:

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2022-07-08 3:43:28 PM  
<cranky old man vox>

Pot now is WAAAAY too strong.I stopped smoking when I broke up with a deadhead girfriend in 1999, and the few times I've toked since them left me stupid, stuinned and paranoid. Yuk.

I've forgotten how to get stoned!

My nephew is in his second year of college, and we had a dope conversation. Indeed, we're probalbly gonna have a walk in the woods here with a joint.

One can't prevent drug abuse, but one can give guidance.
 
2022-07-08 3:46:05 PM  
Go to a Mexican or Szechuan restaurant and get the hottest thing on the menu.

Cannabis, your friendly antiemetic and proemetic, crazy. Definitely not speaking from experience.

/learning about it on the internet does not make it fake
 
2022-07-08 3:46:32 PM  

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There's such a long and established history of utter bullshiat from the prohibitionists. I wouldn't mind having a copy of that poster. It's farking hilarious.
 
2022-07-08 3:46:52 PM  

Rage Against the Thorazine: [Fark user image image 528x658]


Used to have a tshirt that said "alcohol is my anti-drug"
 
2022-07-08 3:47:25 PM  

KCinPA: Have never heard of it and have never heard of anyone vomiting after a smoke.

"It's also not a reason to fear the legalization of pot, experts say, though it is good for medical professionals to be familiar with the symptoms, which yes, can include loud vocal sounds."

I have made loud vocal sounds while high but usually it involved singing Pink Floyd lyrics really off key.

Pot should be legalized everywhere!


I vomited after smoking some really potent thai stick but I cannot draw a straight line between the two. It may have been a myriad of other reasons that made me hurl that day.
 
2022-07-08 3:47:42 PM  

maxheck: <cranky old man vox>

Pot now is WAAAAY too strong.I stopped smoking when I broke up with a deadhead girfriend in 1999, and the few times I've toked since them left me stupid, stuinned and paranoid. Yuk.

I've forgotten how to get stoned!

My nephew is in his second year of college, and we had a dope conversation. Indeed, we're probalbly gonna have a walk in the woods here with a joint.

One can't prevent drug abuse, but one can give guidance.


If a drug is stronger you use less.
You might drink a 12oz beer, but few people drink 12oz of vodka.
 
2022-07-08 3:48:44 PM  

TurningHardWood: Literally any time I have smoked weed I've been left vomiting for hours afterward.  It's actually painful.  Like my entire GI tract attempts to expel everything through the shortest possible path.  And when there's nothing left it just keeps trying just to make sure it got it all.

As a result, I couldn't speak to long term use but I also wouldn't call it a "condition".  I just am one of the unlucky few who can't enjoy the benefits of our new less-restrictive weed laws.

I have never heard of anyone else ever having this reaction until this article.  Nor has anyone else I've ever spoken to about it.

/sucks to be me
//glad everyone else can enjoy their weed though


You know that 1% of people who get the really weird side effects they have to advertise on TV for prescription medicine? That's you.

/If it helps I also get the really weird medical stuff too. Usually not side effects, just weird conditions. But it helps to know you're Spiders George.
 
2022-07-08 3:50:14 PM  

SpaceMonkey-66: Interesting that they don't panic like this over booze.


People expect to barf after drinking excessive amounts of booze. But most Farkers are professionals and know when to stop. Me, I drink better booze instead of the bottom shelf crap that smells like pancake syrup.
 
2022-07-08 3:51:13 PM  

edmo: I don't see any reefer in here:

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2022-07-08 3:54:20 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I was hoping this would have something to do with scrotuses. Scroti. Scrotums. Er, balls.


Anything to get back and recap the guy who got his scrote stuck in a slatted chair?

After all its a true story. Less embarrassing then going through a shredder in a junkyard.
 
2022-07-08 3:56:25 PM  
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These are great. When making them they confused bath salts with cannabis.
 
2022-07-08 3:58:32 PM  
Actually useful advice

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Also works when people are not high.
 
2022-07-08 3:59:22 PM  
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2022-07-08 4:00:12 PM  

lakefivedi: for 50 years I've tried smoking enough until I scromit, unsuccessfully.


Yep, same here, 50 yr user here.  I have never: microwaved a baby, sat around laughing manically(sp?) over nothing, had the urge to do a mass shooting (per MTG looney theory), ate voraciously while high, engaged in sex crazed behavior or promiscuity, or scromited (what ever the he!! that it).
 
2022-07-08 4:02:43 PM  
A Daily Fail concern article boosted by Slate regarding 300 neurotic or allergic people WORLDWIDE is surely worth my time.
 
2022-07-08 4:04:07 PM  
Looks like another good reason to elevate funding on research into the benefits and negative impact of all the various strains and delivery system of marijuana.

Without good research, the street only has anecdotal data, and the craziest stories have the biggest impact.
 
2022-07-08 4:09:12 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


I threw up after hitting a bong but that was mostly from smoking a cigarette immediately after. My body rightly thought I was being poisoned and decided to open the airlock.
 
2022-07-08 4:09:27 PM  
FTFA, zero chance of it happening if you're not a daily user, and even then, it's a very rare allergic reaction, and ceasing all use will stop it, though it may take months.

So... something medical professionals should be aware of so they can explain it to the very rare patient that it will actually happen to, but because it's 100% curable, requires nothing -to- cure it (just stop using pot), and is in no way life-threatening (although obviously QUITE unpleasant if you're one of the unlucky ones), it's not a huge concern, or a high enough risk to be a reason to not use the stuff (obviously stop if you ARE one of the unlucky ones), but... yeah.

All drugs have very rare nasty side effects, it's no surprise that pot would too.
 
2022-07-08 4:13:37 PM  

dbrunker: Actually useful advice

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Also works when people are not high.


Outdoor furry convention.  More than one bad storm weathered out in a tent set up on the back of my pickup, cuddling my husband in a safe nest piled up on an air mattress watching movies or TV shows on a smartphone together.  Sometimes while high, but not because we were high.
 
2022-07-08 4:13:59 PM  
Ok, so I've NEVER vomited while high (been a LOOOOONG while but I smoked a lot when I was younger) but I've chucked more than I'd like to admit to while drunk.

This sounds less like a problem with the ganj than with the person having some kind of allergic thing going on.
 
2022-07-08 4:15:51 PM  

Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.


I got 30 %oil at the sqdc recently.
Im never using that again. Its way too much for me.
 
2022-07-08 4:16:16 PM  

jackandwater: lakefivedi: for 50 years I've tried smoking enough until I scromit, unsuccessfully.

Yep, same here, 50 yr user here.  I have never: microwaved a baby, sat around laughing manically(sp?) over nothing, had the urge to do a mass shooting (per MTG looney theory), ate voraciously while high, engaged in sex crazed behavior or promiscuity, or scromited (what ever the he!! that it).


I've laughed maniacally over nothing, ate voraciously and been a hornball while high.  But that's mostly because I do that when I'm sober, too.
 
2022-07-08 4:16:28 PM  
I've been at it for the better part of 15 years and have never experienced this, unless it's combined with a LOT of alcohol and I get the spins. That hasn't happened in years.

I too have friends who regularly smoke, and none of them experience this either. This sounds like a load of crap to me.
 
2022-07-08 4:19:26 PM  
Nobody?

Fine...

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2022-07-08 4:23:04 PM  

eurotrader: So using Facebook "medical researchers" to create a illness and make up a name for it sounds as legit as the same medical "professionals" that claim horse dewormer cures covid.


No no.  They claim Demon Sperm makes you ill.  Just because you need horse dewormer to cure you, don't blame the doctor you little hussy.
 
2022-07-08 4:27:09 PM  
work on not smelling so bad weed smoking people
 
2022-07-08 4:28:03 PM  

frankb00th: Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.

I got 30 %oil at the sqdc recently.
Im never using that again. Its way too much for me.


30% oil is pretty weak, normally they are in the high 90's, as they are concentrates. 
Flower, I think the highest I've seen in a store is 29%, as it's highly dependent on strain.

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I grow because it's a lot cheaper. I have about 8 going right now.
 
2022-07-08 4:29:59 PM  

doomjesse: eurotrader: So using Facebook "medical researchers" to create a illness and make up a name for it sounds as legit as the same medical "professionals" that claim horse dewormer cures covid.

No no.  They claim Demon Sperm makes you ill.  Just because you need horse dewormer to cure you, don't blame the doctor you little hussy.


I'm pretty sure that's an entire category on E621.
 
2022-07-08 4:30:50 PM  

dbrunker: Actually useful advicean

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Also works when people are not high.


I was trip-sitter for some friends. I had the big Cadillac  bigger than at  a whale and I was big and stentorian enough to deal with authority figures such as police, parents, 7-11 clerks... Plus I don't trip.

Two rules agreed upon aforehand:

1) all cars are real.

2) "Down is good." When Max says that, sit your ass down while he sorts something out.

Amazing how well those two rules work.
 
2022-07-08 4:35:28 PM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: But, I love "Wallace and Scromit"!
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I mean who hasn't gotten so high they build robotic trousers for their dog?
 
2022-07-08 4:37:36 PM  
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2022-07-08 4:44:16 PM  

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Nice pic, but she looks a little jacked up on those heels and with the little guy in the back.
 
2022-07-08 4:44:43 PM  
I've heard from daily, habitual, heavy smokers that this is a real thing, but only if you partake of highly concentrated vape oil all day every day for weeks (like 80%+ concentrations). The "Don't puke" side effect basically compresses like a sonic boom and becomes "vomit forever", BUUUUUUT!!! It stops within a day of just...taking a break for a bit.
 
2022-07-08 4:45:13 PM  

maudibjr: work on not smelling so bad weed smoking people


I'm sure you smell wonderful.
 
2022-07-08 4:47:54 PM  

maudibjr: work on not smelling so bad weed smoking people


Why don't you eat a giant bag of fark.
 
2022-07-08 4:52:35 PM  
"I'm devoted to trying to spread awareness, education, while still being pro-cannabis," says Moon.

Or you could quit smoking so much weed, princess.
 
2022-07-08 4:52:55 PM  
Wow, that article was 11 paragraphs too long.
 
2022-07-08 4:54:27 PM  

zobear: Wow, that article was 11 paragraphs too long.


What were we reading again?
 
2022-07-08 5:03:43 PM  
How does a scrotum vomit?
 
2022-07-08 5:27:48 PM  

Baloo Uriza: doomjesse: eurotrader: So using Facebook "medical researchers" to create a illness and make up a name for it sounds as legit as the same medical "professionals" that claim horse dewormer cures covid.

No no.  They claim Demon Sperm makes you ill.  Just because you need horse dewormer to cure you, don't blame the doctor you little hussy.

I'm pretty sure that's an entire category on E621.


Looked up what E621 is.  I think I hate you.  What do you have against me sleeping peacefully?
 
2022-07-08 5:32:07 PM  
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2022-07-08 5:35:34 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


If it takes serious research to show it occurs, then it's a really really rare side effect. Which is why the researchers also said it's not particularly concerning.

It's the non-researchers who are clutching their pearls about it and are beating it up.
 
2022-07-08 5:40:53 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


This has been well known and observed for the last 50 years.  Doctor in TFA incorrectly or incompletly quoted.  The condition can occur when a user gets a sudden high dose to which he/she not accustomed.  Back on yhe 60's the cure was a long warm bath.

/young wippersnappers
 
2022-07-08 5:42:50 PM  

doomjesse: Baloo Uriza: doomjesse: eurotrader: So using Facebook "medical researchers" to create a illness and make up a name for it sounds as legit as the same medical "professionals" that claim horse dewormer cures covid.

No no.  They claim Demon Sperm makes you ill.  Just because you need horse dewormer to cure you, don't blame the doctor you little hussy.

I'm pretty sure that's an entire category on E621.

Looked up what E621 is.  I think I hate you.  What do you have against me sleeping peacefully?


Oddly enough, if I can't sleep and my husband's already out, 30-45 minutes browsing E621 usually makes me to to sleep.
 
2022-07-08 5:43:03 PM  

Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.


High end is 33% in Illinois.
 
2022-07-08 5:43:16 PM  

patricula: Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel:

It isn't ignorance* to not know about something that is rare enough to be statistically insignificant


I agree and if I could edit my comment I would. "Ignorance" is the wrong word.

What's a better word for a person when presented with new information they respond with "bullshiat/fake news" just because it doesn't match their personal experience?

And I'm not talking about  "errr.... I've never heard of this even with X years of smoking so I'll wait for a more reliable source." which would be reasonable. I'm talking about the ones speaking with 100% confidence declaring this BS/fake.

/ Tapping out
// Remembering why I don't participate in online discussions
/// My writing is terribly unclear and probably comma spliced to high heaven


There have been numerous monied interests in America spreading Reefer Madness, and racist crap about cannabis in this country for many decades, forgive me if I don't respond with honest curiosity when I see a headline shouting, ER doctors: "Children's bodies piled high (to the ceiling) from the new and legal killer reefer cigarettes."
 
2022-07-08 5:44:53 PM  

scanman61: Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.

It's Slate doing an article about a Daily Mail article.  What the fark did you expect?


That part got me. The Daily Mail regularly cites articles remote tabloids about batboys. Hey, as long as it's cited we'll run it.
 
2022-07-08 5:50:21 PM  
It's a sad reflection that so many can blissfully dismiss something solely on the evidence that they never heard of it before, and it hasn't happened to them.

/it's embarrasing you farkers
 
2022-07-08 5:51:29 PM  
Smoke a blunt......AAAAAAAAAARRRGH....BLUUUUUUUURGHURK...oo what caused that?
Smoke a blunt......AAAAAAAAAARRRGH....BLUUUUUUUURGHURK...oo what caused that?
Smoke a blunt......AAAAAAAAAARRRGH....BLUUUUUUUURGHURK...oo what caused that?
Smoke a blunt......AAAAAAAAAARRRGH....BLUUUUUUUURGHURK...oo what caused that?
Smoke a blunt......AAAAAAAAAARRRGH....BLUUUUUUUURGHURK...oo what caused that?

Ad Nauseum so to speak.
 
2022-07-08 5:52:20 PM  

Nocrash: It's a sad reflection that so many can blissfully dismiss something solely on the evidence that they never heard of it before, and it hasn't happened to them.

/it's embarrasing you farkers


No it isn't.

This is an anti-pot hit piece, and you fell for it.
 
2022-07-08 5:52:28 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I have in my life taken a bong rip so massive that I immediately coughed it back up, then coughed some more, then kept coughing, then kinda dry heaved a bit as I coughed up more resin coating from my lungs, then coughed a bit, by now I was laughing and coughing and crying and the snot added to the whole image.
I lived.


That wasn't it. When this stomach thing happens you heave for an hour or more.
 
2022-07-08 5:55:07 PM  
I'm a nurse, and have taken care of people in the hospital with hyperemesis from marijuana use. It's real, and it's annoying. They tend to be repeaters, because they don't learn the first time that weed is just not for them.
 
2022-07-08 5:55:31 PM  

whidbey: Nocrash: It's a sad reflection that so many can blissfully dismiss something solely on the evidence that they never heard of it before, and it hasn't happened to them.

/it's embarrasing you farkers

No it isn't.

This is an anti-pot hit piece, and you fell for it.


Good god man I have probably spilled more pot than you have smoked. Don't be an idiot. Sure it's a hit piece but the medical condition is well known.
 
2022-07-08 5:56:17 PM  

Nocrash: whidbey: Nocrash: It's a sad reflection that so many can blissfully dismiss something solely on the evidence that they never heard of it before, and it hasn't happened to them.

/it's embarrasing you farkers

No it isn't.

This is an anti-pot hit piece, and you fell for it.

Good god man I have probably spilled more pot than you have smoked. Don't be an idiot. Sure it's a hit piece but the medical condition is well known.


Then f*cking act like it is.


Good god man I have probably spilled more pot than you have smoked.

ok Boomer.
 
2022-07-08 6:29:46 PM  
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2022-07-08 6:32:35 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


This is just a smokescreen to recriminalize it. I've eaten Ice Cream till I puked once; should that be a disease too?
 
2022-07-08 6:44:32 PM  
If you have to make up a word for something it probably isn't real.

/smoked daily for 30+ years
/never heard such nonsense
 
2022-07-08 6:53:17 PM  

capt_sensible: The amount of weed you need to smoke on a continual basis to exhibit this syndrome is enough that chances are that's all you're doing, every day, all the time. Never met anyone in person who experienced it but I have heard about people who did a couple of times.


How can I vomit when I'm wearing a gas mask hooked to rotating gravity bongs?
 
2022-07-08 6:54:13 PM  

Nocrash: Russ1642: common sense is an oxymoron: The cannabiphobes finally found a medical condition associated with cannabis use. Now wake me up when they can agree on how that condition is defined and how they distinguish it from conditions with similar symptoms, including one for which cannabis is therapeutic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK549915/

FYI, 2000 mg of THC equates to roughly a quarter-ounce of midrange dispensary weed. That's a lot to smoke every day.

The high end for the stores in Canada is around 23%. 2g THC would equate to around a third of an ounce of weed. Dispensaries in the states must have some really good shiat if that's considered midrange. Either way, that's a ton of weed to take at once.

High end is 33% in Illinois.


Is it super overpriced?
 
2022-07-08 6:56:08 PM  

Nocrash: whidbey: Nocrash: It's a sad reflection that so many can blissfully dismiss something solely on the evidence that they never heard of it before, and it hasn't happened to them.

/it's embarrasing you farkers

No it isn't.

This is an anti-pot hit piece, and you fell for it.

Good god man I have probably spilled more pot than you have smoked. Don't be an idiot. Sure it's a hit piece but the medical condition is well known.


My point is that when the medical staff is looking for zebras, they see zebras. CHS is nowhere near as common as these doctors and nosyparkers want it to be.

When a family practitioner tells a 50 year old woman with hot flashes, night sweats, and nausea during hot flashes that she has CHS rather than the unbleedin' obvious, menopause, that right there is reefer madness.

When a person with documented CVS has to piss before being given anti-emetics and an IV, that is reefer madness.

I no longer admit to cannabis use to a medical professional.
 
2022-07-08 6:58:50 PM  
If this does happen, it's probably a very small percentage, but the medical hacks get bribes from big pharma to demonize weed because it's more effective than the overpriced shiat they push on you.
 
2022-07-08 6:59:12 PM  
Scromiting is about as real as eating tide pods was.
 
2022-07-08 7:03:07 PM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: But, I love "Wallace and Scromit"!
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Darn it, missed by seconds....
 
2022-07-08 7:08:43 PM  
My dad hates the marijuanas (he claims he tried it once in the 70s and thought he could fly and almost jumped off a building.... Methinks it must have been laced). However whenever he vomits he does scream as he does it and it's terrifying. If you've never heard someone throw up like that, it sounds like a farking exorcism. But again, he hates weed so I'm pretty sure it's not that.

I violently threw up a couple times from smoking weed, but it's something about smoking it. I've never had it happen from edibles.
 
2022-07-08 7:11:06 PM  

Billy Liar: Kind of like saying that we didn't have hangovers until Prohibition was lifted.

If it exists, how does it matter if dope is legal or not?

"No, he didn't OD on heroin.  Heroin is illegal; he can't have overdosed on it."


Correct, I've thrown up from drinking about a billion more times than from weed lol.
 
2022-07-08 7:11:53 PM  

ace in your face: My dad hates the marijuanas (he claims he tried it once in the 70s and thought he could fly and almost jumped off a building.... Methinks it must have been laced). However whenever he vomits he does scream as he does it and it's terrifying. If you've never heard someone throw up like that, it sounds like a farking exorcism. But again, he hates weed so I'm pretty sure it's not that.

I violently threw up a couple times from smoking weed, but it's something about smoking it. I've never had it happen from edibles.


This isn't the same as a puff on burned flower causing you to puke. It is repeated heaves over minutes or hours.
 
2022-07-08 7:12:47 PM  
I prefer the term "yarfing".

"yundering" if you're down under.
 
2022-07-08 7:14:38 PM  

djkutch: capt_sensible: The amount of weed you need to smoke on a continual basis to exhibit this syndrome is enough that chances are that's all you're doing, every day, all the time. Never met anyone in person who experienced it but I have heard about people who did a couple of times.

How can I vomit when I'm wearing a gas mask hooked to rotating gravity bongs?


Very carefully
 
2022-07-08 7:15:10 PM  
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2022-07-08 7:17:53 PM  

dbrunker: Actually useful advice

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Also works when people are not high.


Pretty sure chewing peppercorns would make me scromit
 
2022-07-08 7:47:06 PM  
I scromitted out of my ass once.
Wasn't pretty.
 
2022-07-08 8:04:00 PM  
I usually just fall asleep before I get to the scromiting stage. I must be doing it wrong.
 
2022-07-08 8:06:40 PM  
Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is a real thing, but it's sort of like one of those "sometimes people are just schizophrenic, weird right?!" kind of things. If you used another drug as much as most of the people who usually get that problem are using weed, you would likely be quite dead.
 
2022-07-08 8:35:48 PM  
Shiatty right wingers trying to create a false narrative
 
2022-07-08 8:39:21 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "Legalising pot seems like a common-sense policy but in fact, it's a public health disaster that the MJ industry is doing its darnedest to cover up," the author of the piece wrote, citing the rise of "scromiting" as a concern.

When you start talking about drunks vomiting until their shoes come up, maybe I'll listen to this bullshiat.  Not before.


I once thought i saw lint from my socks...

Good times
 
2022-07-08 9:07:56 PM  

Lambskincoat: johnphantom: It's not the amount, it is the product itself - it is contaminated. I had this "scromiting" (I don't scream, but I had a constant need to vomit, hard) when I was smoking an ounce of flower a month. I switched dealers and it went away. Now I do a gram of shatter and a gram of flower plus some edibles a day. I haven't had this "scromiting" since, and only that one time. Personally I suspect unflushed of neem oil treated plants.

This is an explanation I will buy.


Sure enough I looked it up and one of the toxic reactions to neem oil includes hyperemesis. When you are growing a plant and bugs start eating it, you can throw months of work in the trash, or you can spray the plant with neem oil. Most folks won't have any reaction at all and some people will start scromiting.
 
2022-07-08 9:49:59 PM  

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2022-07-08 9:52:29 PM  

Lambskincoat: I knew thousands of daily reefer smokers in college and not one single 'scromiter'. This is the most bullshiat, bullshiat I have ever heard in my life.


Here is a smart science debunker and pot head going into the science on it.  And yes, it's real, although weirdly named.  It's rare, but it's real.

If you regularly smoke pot AND you regularly are nauseous, try a pot holiday and see if it gets better.  There is chance the pot is the cause.

/Hoped to get in before the 'pot can do no harm, and they made stuff up about it in the past so everything they say now is an obvious line' fallacy, but can't win them all.

//No problem with legalized pot.  Scromitting is way less of a risk than cirrhosis of the liver.  Will right wingers try to use it to fight legalization efforts?  Sure.  These are the same idiots who trot out women who feel bad about having had an abortion to argue that no woman should be allowed to have an abortion, who appoint SCOTUS justices who want to overturn rulings about gay marriage that are based on the same premise that allow said justices to have interracial marriages.  They are idiots.  The solution to their bad logic is not more bad logic though.
 
2022-07-08 9:53:46 PM  
Sorry, here is the link... I blame it on my ADD (bwow), and my SSRI, which improves my quality of life greatly, but also gives me memory problems.

https://skepchick.org/2022/07/i-regret-to-inform-you-that-weed-induced-scromiting-is-real/
 
2022-07-08 11:02:53 PM  

HoratioGates: Sorry, here is the link... I blame it on my ADD (bwow), and my SSRI, which improves my quality of life greatly, but also gives me memory problems.

https://skepchick.org/2022/07/i-regret-to-inform-you-that-weed-induced-scromiting-is-real/


I don't care how many people agree that legalization has led to all new side effects never before seen in human history, I am very skeptical about new things under the sun that our new smarter generation has discovered. Folks have been lighting up reefers in the shadows for many decades with no reported scromiting.
 
2022-07-08 11:04:13 PM  
I've seen people that usually smoke ditch weed puke after smoking some high end weed.

I grew some really bomb weed once and was toking up with a few friends One guy was hitting it like it was commercial pot and I told him to hit it easy 'cause it will grab you by the boo boo. He said something to the effect that he "smoked the best pot money can buy." My buddy laughed and said "don't say the man didn't warn you."

About shiats later he was a bit green around the gills. He then accused me of lacing the weed. My buddy told him it was just good weed. Mr. "I smoke the best weed money can buy" had to call his wife to pick him up because he couldn't drive.
 
2022-07-08 11:07:05 PM  
how the filter changed shiats to shiats I have no idea
 
2022-07-08 11:08:07 PM  
Damn it! Five hits you stoopid filter
 
2022-07-08 11:48:50 PM  
This does not happen to everyone of course but it does happen.  I am an ER RN, pro weed, and have seen it several times.  Tends to be the same people, just like some people can't handle other things.  The vomiting is horrific.
 
2022-07-09 2:40:34 AM  
One of my best friends is allergic to pot. He gets high, but he also itches from head to toe until a couple hours after it wears off. I've met one person ever who'se gotten hypermemesis from smoking. She quit for a few months and cut way back on the frequency after that and was fine.
 
2022-07-09 3:31:14 AM  

maxheck: <cranky old man vox>

Pot now is WAAAAY too strong.I stopped smoking when I broke up with a deadhead girfriend in 1999, and the few times I've toked since them left me stupid, stuinned and paranoid. Yuk.

I've forgotten how to get stoned!

My nephew is in his second year of college, and we had a dope conversation. Indeed, we're probalbly gonna have a walk in the woods here with a joint.

One can't prevent drug abuse, but one can give guidance.


Mrs. Nuran's parents drastically reduced her odds of doing drugs right before she went to college. She asked them about drugs. They said "Yeah we did some back before we got married. It wasn't all that exciting."

When your boring middle aged parents say it was boring and more trouble than it was worth the forbidden is a lot less alluring. She made it all the way through Reed College without even having a drink or a joint
 
2022-07-09 7:12:14 AM  
That sounds awesome
 
2022-07-09 7:21:50 AM  

capt_sensible: The amount of weed you need to smoke on a continual basis to exhibit this syndrome is enough that chances are that's all you're doing, every day, all the time. Never met anyone in person who experienced it but I have heard about people who did a couple of times.


A doctor told a friend that he had hyperemesis from smoking. He smoked regularly, but not during his job. He quit smoking, still sick daily for 2 months. Went to a different doctor, didn't disclose his use. Turns out he had to have emergency surgery for his ruptured gallbladder.
 
2022-07-09 9:00:25 AM  
She snorted 3 whole mamajuanas? Wow
 
2022-07-09 11:22:41 AM  

patricula: Well, I'm having a major "Welcome to Fark!" moment here.

There's a lot of people in here declaring this article as bullshiat and "it's rare so shut up" based on nothing other than "I've never gotten sick".

Or even a "a few cases of people who can't handle their weed."

So much amazing ignorance on display here.


So you scream uncontrollably while vomiting because of cannibus ?
 
2022-07-09 11:49:41 AM  

TurningHardWood: kmgenesis23: TurningHardWood: Literally any time I have smoked weed I've been left vomiting for hours afterward.  It's actually painful.  Like my entire GI tract attempts to expel everything through the shortest possible path.  And when there's nothing left it just keeps trying just to make sure it got it all.

As a result, I couldn't speak to long term use but I also wouldn't call it a "condition".  I just am one of the unlucky few who can't enjoy the benefits of our new less-restrictive weed laws.

I have never heard of anyone else ever having this reaction until this article.  Nor has anyone else I've ever spoken to about it.

/sucks to be me
//glad everyone else can enjoy their weed though

My wife had similar reactions to yours in the past and basically refuses outright to even attempt edibles. Which is fine. It's not for everybody.

I'm in the same boat.  Wasn't fun in my 20's the few times I tried.  Now, nearing 50, I'm in no rush to relive anything like those few experiences on the off chance edibles don't have the same result.


You should try eating them somewhere other than a boat.

If you live on a house boat, I apologize for my cultural insensitivity.
 
2022-07-09 12:08:32 PM  

dbrunker: Actually useful advice

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Also works when people are not high.


There are easier things to take than chewing raw peppercorns. The compound in pepper that reduces your high is β-Caryophyllene, a non-cannabinoid that selectively binds to the CB2 cannabinoid receptors similar to CBD. But β-Caryophyllene is found in a bunch of other plants. One that's cheap and easy to find is echinacea. Just take a bunch of echinacea. It's an edible plant and doesn't have side effects at higher doses. Or just take some CBD. It counters the effects of THC. Unfortunately alot of the CBD products out there have *really* low doses, usually not enough to really do anything. For an average weight person around you need around 40-50mg to start or up to 70-90mg depending on your tolerance for a full dose. Start off with like 40mg and if you're still too high just take another dose. Worst that will happen is you'll need to take a nap.
 
2022-07-09 12:12:48 PM  

Lambskincoat: I don't care how many people agree that legalization has led to all new side effects never before seen in human history, I am very skeptical about new things under the sun that our new smarter generation has discovered. Folks have been lighting up reefers in the shadows for many decades with no reported scromiting.


My legs often feel weird at night.  Years ago all I would have said is 'my legs feel weird at night'... then someone started talking about restless leg syndrome, and I was like... oh, yeah, that sensation they are describing is what I'm feeling.

If you watch the video, first off, you'll see it's people who are smoking A LOT, and even then it's pretty rare.  Legalization has increased the number of people who smoke a lot.  Second, it's opened up how we talk about it.  If you'd never heard of scrommitting, and smoked some pot and threw up, you'd probably think you had a stomach problem, not that it was the pot. 

Just about everything in life has side effects.  To believe that a psychoactive drug wouldn't have any is magical thinking.  It took a few decades after they learned to mass produce cigarettes, spiking how much tobacco people used, to detect lung cancer problems.
 
2022-07-09 2:03:14 PM  

JebusKhrist: I've been diagnosed with chronic vomiting syndrome (just as fun as it sounds). I'm also a daily smoker, but quitting doesn't get rid of the symptoms (been there done that).


Are you sure?

How long can cannabis hyperemesis last?
Most people with CHS who stop using cannabis have relief from symptoms within 10 days. But it may take a few months to feel fully recovered. As you recover, you begin to resume your usual eating and bathing habits.


If this were actually a permanent condition, Cannabevets would actually have something to be happy about, so please don't spread misinformation.
 
2022-07-09 2:16:12 PM  

HoratioGates: If you'd never heard of scrommitting, and smoked some pot and threw up, you'd probably think you had a stomach problem, not that it was the pot.


Yeah, you probably did have a stomach problem, since this is an extremely rare syndrome.

HoratioGates: If you regularly smoke pot AND you regularly are nauseous, try a pot holiday and see if it gets better.  There is chance the pot is the cause.


The chance of it being the pot is so small that you'd have better luck playing the lottery.  If you're vomiting uncontrollably, you'd better go to the ER, because there are some deadly illnesses that are vastly more likely to be the cause.  It would be great if it is the pot, because some of the much more common alternatives can be pretty terminal.  Still, good advice to try quitting.  If you're sick to your stomach all the time, it's worth a try.  But that's really not the situation with CHS, that is not "I feel nauseous," that's "Take me to the ER right now."
 
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