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(NBC News)   AR-15 raffle video puts Illinois Republican in hot seat after parade shooting, he's front runner for GQP nomination for Gov of Illionois   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2022-07-07 6:44:45 AM  
Let's just all move on and celebrate!

/what a farkin jerk
 
2022-07-07 6:46:00 AM  
He's not the front-runner. He already won. This low-quality grifter is the Republican candidate for governor.
 
2022-07-07 6:48:57 AM  
This guy is the front-runner to remain a state senator.  The Democratic Party wanted him to be their opponent so bad they were running ads for him.  And with Roe v. Wade being overturned and the recent shooting, you can be sure as hell Democrats are going to show up to the polls in November.
 
2022-07-07 6:50:33 AM  
Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.
 
2022-07-07 6:53:37 AM  
I'm curious. If someone wins a gun in a raffle, is there a waiting period and a background check before they can claim it? Forgive me if that's a naive question.
 
2022-07-07 6:56:30 AM  
The authorities were pretty coy about what kind of firearm was used in the July 4th mass shooting. Almost like they were worried about the bad PR for AR-type rifles from one more mass shooting with one.
 
2022-07-07 6:58:31 AM  
Sure, a guy from a town half the size of my high school should definitely be my governor. I don't live anywhere close to Chicago.
 
2022-07-07 7:00:50 AM  

Ragin' Asian: I'm curious. If someone wins a gun in a raffle, is there a waiting period and a background check before they can claim it? Forgive me if that's a naive question.


Googled this out of my own interest in your question. I'd have thought winning it in a raffle is essentially the same as being given the gun as a gift from a legal perspective. In Illinois both the giver and receiver would have to have valid FOID cards. Some states require the gift to be transferred via a licensed dealer to enable the background checks. More info.....
 
2022-07-07 7:01:07 AM  

snowshovel: Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.


Because it's proved to have remarkably accurate over the last ten years?
 
2022-07-07 7:05:41 AM  

RasIanI: snowshovel: Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.

Because it's proved to have remarkably accurate over the last ten years?


Exactly. The anti-Obama crowd are now too busy ranting about "the war on Christianity" and the "war on the Second Amendment" to mention Obama. FREEDUMBS!!!!
 
2022-07-07 7:05:47 AM  
this the same guy who, minutes after the shooting, released a video complaining about the parade being cancelled and saying we all just need to move on?
 
2022-07-07 7:05:52 AM  
"Gosh, I didn't expect having a big event fund raising money for my campaign using the mass shooting gun would make me look bad"
 
2022-07-07 7:06:38 AM  
Raffle Raffle Raffle!
 
2022-07-07 7:08:40 AM  

Aussie_As: Ragin' Asian: I'm curious. If someone wins a gun in a raffle, is there a waiting period and a background check before they can claim it? Forgive me if that's a naive question.

Googled this out of my own interest in your question. I'd have thought winning it in a raffle is essentially the same as being given the gun as a gift from a legal perspective. In Illinois both the giver and receiver would have to have valid FOID cards. Some states require the gift to be transferred via a licensed dealer to enable the background checks. More info.....


I've helped with charity gun raffles in PA (caters to sportsmen, no AR15s or the like on the ticket). The guns have to be transferred at a local dealer with the same rules as a normal commercial sale. They would frequently get people who were disappointed they couldn't walk off with their gun the day of the raffle. Other winners have been denied after background check at the dealer. I think some people who are not eligible for firearms purchase but the tickets thinking they will skirt the law if they win.
 
2022-07-07 7:17:29 AM  

fzumrk: Aussie_As: Ragin' Asian: ...

I've helped with charity gun raffles in PA (caters to sportsmen, no AR15s or the like on the ticket). The guns have to be transferred at a local dealer with the same rules as a normal commercial sale. They would frequently get people who were disappointed they couldn't walk off with their gun the day of the raffle. Other winners have been denied after background check at the dealer. I think some people who are not eligible for firearms purchase but the tickets thinking they will skirt the law if they win.


The mental picture of this makes me happy. Sucked in, "winners" who lose! Thanks!
 
2022-07-07 7:18:32 AM  
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2022-07-07 7:22:13 AM  

snowshovel: Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.


Does your act ever catch a fish?
 
2022-07-07 7:22:15 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: The Democratic Party wanted him to be their opponent so bad they were running ads for him.


They wanted to avoid having Richard Irving as the R candidate.
 
2022-07-07 7:23:00 AM  
you've not paid attention to scotus? gods and guns galore.

snowshovel: Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.

 
2022-07-07 7:24:36 AM  

Ragin' Asian: If someone wins a gun in a raffle, is there a waiting period and a background check before they can claim it?


Yes, a background check is required in Illinois, processed through the state police.

Yes, a waiting period is required for all firearm transfers. The waiting period begins when the intent to make a transfer is established. That's kind a nebulous concept when it comes to private party sales because you can agree to transfer a firearm to someone and later, after the waiting period passes, do the background check paperwork and immediately make the transfer once the background check clears. With the state police running an online portal for checking the validity of a FOID, the background check is basically instant and it spits out a hashed number for the background check approval that you can print to save for your records of the transfer.
 
2022-07-07 7:26:29 AM  

snowshovel: Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.


Same reason we don't talk about how it's darker at night than it is in the daytime. Everyone already knows it and there's nothing anyone can do to change it.
 
2022-07-07 7:28:03 AM  
Woke liberals wrecking your life. Don't have the cash for a constitutionally protected fire arm. For just $20 you can help me put Jesus prince of peace back in the governor's mansion. And just maybe God will select you to win an AR-15 to be his hand of vengeance protect your family from bears.
 
2022-07-07 7:34:35 AM  
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2022-07-07 7:38:41 AM  
South of 80 is a whole different State.

Mostly morons down there.
 
2022-07-07 7:39:00 AM  
For the mass shooter who is on a budget.
 
2022-07-07 7:48:26 AM  
What good is stochastic terrorism if of the people your gettin angry have a rifle. He's gotta raffle something that kills and apearantly this rifle has a proven track record for terrorist.
 
2022-07-07 7:51:04 AM  
what make the ill lion noise?

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2022-07-07 7:59:49 AM  
Ok.  And?
 
2022-07-07 8:02:51 AM  

RTOGUY: The raffle was in 2019...


Congrats on learning about linear time.
 
2022-07-07 8:03:34 AM  
YOU TOO can have YOUR OWN mass murder weapon!
 
2022-07-07 8:03:48 AM  
You'd think after Rump that the Dems would stop engineering their opponent's primaries to get a clown as the opposing nominee. This guy is going to be the next Governor.
 
2022-07-07 8:03:51 AM  

Ragin' Asian: I'm curious. If someone wins a gun in a raffle, is there a waiting period and a background check before they can claim it? Forgive me if that's a naive question.


Yes
 
2022-07-07 8:05:27 AM  

Gooch: You'd think after Rump that the Dems would stop engineering their opponent's primaries to get a clown as the opposing nominee. This guy is going to be the next Governor.


Maybe you should stop surrendering to the fascists months in advance
 
2022-07-07 8:15:39 AM  
Relax, guys... He just wants to order Breakfast

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2022-07-07 8:25:10 AM  

RTOGUY: The raffle was in 2019...


We were pretty sure it didn't in August of 2045. But thanks!
 
2022-07-07 8:28:05 AM  
Just think....this is his macho stance. How big does that belly get when he exhaled and relaxes?

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2022-07-07 8:39:27 AM  

Gooch: You'd think after Rump that the Dems would stop engineering their opponent's primaries to get a clown as the opposing nominee. This guy is going to be the next Governor.


Thanks for starting my day with a deep laugh.

If you know anything about the IL GOP, you'd know this clown doesnt stand a chance. Rauner only won in 2014 because he bought it with his own money, not because he was a Republican. The IL GOP has nothing but resentment to run on and  o Korea than 40% of the population will respond to it.

Land doesnt vote. People do. And people are thoroughly fuxking sick of the IL GOP pointing fingers and casting blame and never, ever, EVER contributing any ideas or Bill's or laws or any effort to make a single goddamn thing better. All they do is tell you "blame democrats and vote for me!"
 
2022-07-07 8:44:01 AM  

RTOGUY: The raffle was in 2019...


And he's running now. He's still deliberately obtuse about the gun problem and mass shootings.

So it's, you know....relevant

But you knew that already
 
2022-07-07 8:44:53 AM  
A Republican moderate could win in IL. This guy is running on MTGs talking points. His own commercials state he will ban abortions, ban CRT in schools and ban trans kids playing sports in order to save Illinois.
 
2022-07-07 9:05:56 AM  
I'll take stuff that didn't age well for $200.
 
2022-07-07 9:13:03 AM  

NathanAllen: South of 80 is a whole different State.

Mostly morons down there.


Fark you.  Dont conflate the southern burbs with downstate.  Y'all own those morans.
 
2022-07-07 9:26:27 AM  

strapp3r: what make the ill lion noise?

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Nah, it's Il Lion Oi's -- The Lion is a chart topping Australian rapper.
 
2022-07-07 10:03:58 AM  

Befuddled: The authorities were pretty coy about what kind of firearm was used in the July 4th mass shooting. Almost like they were worried about the bad PR for AR-type rifles from one more mass shooting with one.


What bad PR? Whenever a mass shooting happens, our right-wing crazies buy the gun that was used.
 
2022-07-07 10:04:34 AM  
LarryDan43: A Republican moderate could win in IL. This guy is running on MTGs talking points. His own commercials state he will ban abortions, ban CRT in schools and ban trans kids playing sports in order to save Illinois.

But gas prices are sky high due to Pritzger. Who is the most liberal person to ever run for office.
 
2022-07-07 10:11:05 AM  
The only people outraged by this weren't going to vote for him anyway.
 
2022-07-07 10:27:15 AM  

holdmybones: Just think....this is his macho stance. How big does that belly get when he exhaled and relaxes?

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He looks like he auditioned for Falling Down.
 
2022-07-07 10:30:30 AM  

snowshovel: Remember the blowback Obama got for claiming a subset of Republican voters only cared about God and guns. Why don't we ever talk about that anymore.


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2022-07-07 10:33:46 AM  

Befuddled: The authorities were pretty coy about what kind of firearm was used in the July 4th mass shooting. Almost like they were worried about the bad PR for AR-type rifles from one more mass shooting with one.


They finally came out with it yesterday. Smith & Wesson M&P 15, it is an AR-15 pattern rifle chambered in 5.56 Nato. Authorities kept using the term 'high powered' rifle, but this is the standard Nato round about the exact same round as the much more popular with mass shooters .223 round, so not actually a 'high powered' rifle round like a 7.62 or .308

If we do not do something to get this shiat under control and the Army's new infantry rifle the XM5 chambered in .277 Fury becomes anywhere near as popular as the AR-15 over the next few years we will be seeing way more people dying in mass shooting events as it is an actual high power round and can easily shoot through cement block walls and defeat body armor.
 
2022-07-07 10:38:47 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: Befuddled: The authorities were pretty coy about what kind of firearm was used in the July 4th mass shooting. Almost like they were worried about the bad PR for AR-type rifles from one more mass shooting with one.

They finally came out with it yesterday. Smith & Wesson M&P 15, it is an AR-15 pattern rifle chambered in 5.56 Nato. Authorities kept using the term 'high powered' rifle, but this is the standard Nato round about the exact same round as the much more popular with mass shooters .223 round, so not actually a 'high powered' rifle round like a 7.62 or .308

If we do not do something to get this shiat under control and the Army's new infantry rifle the XM5 chambered in .277 Fury becomes anywhere near as popular as the AR-15 over the next few years we will be seeing way more people dying in mass shooting events as it is an actual high power round and can easily shoot through cement block walls and defeat body armor.


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2022-07-07 11:33:56 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: Authorities kept using the term 'high powered'


A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth.

Same with "high-capacity" magazines being anything over 10 rounds. The STANDARD-capacity magazine in my GLOCK 17 holds 17 rounds.
 
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