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(AP News)   Most directors of big movies based on franchises take the approach of figuring out just how much fan service they can cram into 90 minutes while still technically having a plot. Taika Waititi on the other hand set out to piss off the fanboys   (apnews.com) divider line
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2022-07-07 12:28:45 AM  
This will be interesting to see who this pisses off.
 
2022-07-07 12:50:32 AM  
Well, that's an approach, I guess.
But then, many fans are used to directors spitefully teeing off on the properties they love like Rick James on a white suede couch.
 
2022-07-07 1:00:13 AM  
I saw it last night. Didn't piss me off at all.

If you liked Ragnarok, you'll love this one.
 
2022-07-07 1:04:42 AM  
Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans.

The biggest problem I had with the sequel trilogy is it made the Galaxy Far Far Away seem too small. There are thousands of inhabited worlds to choose from to base the next story on, and only some dozens have been documented. Making shiat up should not be a problem.
 
2022-07-07 1:11:32 AM  

zimbach: Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans.

The biggest problem I had with the sequel trilogy is it made the Galaxy Far Far Away seem too small. There are thousands of inhabited worlds to choose from to base the next story on, and only some dozens have been documented. Making shiat up should not be a problem.


Wrong franchise. This is Star Thors.
 
2022-07-07 1:14:11 AM  

EdgeRunner: zimbach: Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans.

The biggest problem I had with the sequel trilogy is it made the Galaxy Far Far Away seem too small. There are thousands of inhabited worlds to choose from to base the next story on, and only some dozens have been documented. Making shiat up should not be a problem.

Wrong franchise. This is Star Thors.


Darn, I thought it was Star Whores. It was an exhausting film. Could only watch in 15 minute incriments.
 
2022-07-07 1:48:27 AM  

EdgeRunner: zimbach: Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans.

The biggest problem I had with the sequel trilogy is it made the Galaxy Far Far Away seem too small. There are thousands of inhabited worlds to choose from to base the next story on, and only some dozens have been documented. Making shiat up should not be a problem.

Wrong franchise. This is Star Thors.


The mentioned he's working on a Star War
 
2022-07-07 1:57:49 AM  
Taika David Cohen ... and he's a hack.
 
2022-07-07 2:12:27 AM  
Meh. His time is about to run out hard.
And I like the guy.
 
2022-07-07 2:17:38 AM  
That movie was bad. And it should feel bad. I mean, just sooo bad. In need a of fewer "yes men" and someone to edit occasionally. On almost every dimension of film making it was bad.  And jebus boring as fark.

The 80s Flash Gordon did all of this better.

This movie used "Pitch meeting" as a roadmap and not a warning.
 
2022-07-07 6:10:42 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: EdgeRunner: zimbach: Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans.

The biggest problem I had with the sequel trilogy is it made the Galaxy Far Far Away seem too small. There are thousands of inhabited worlds to choose from to base the next story on, and only some dozens have been documented. Making shiat up should not be a problem.

Wrong franchise. This is Star Thors.

Darn, I thought it was Star Whores. It was an exhausting film. Could only watch in 15 minute incriments.


You mean fifteen, minute increments right?
 
2022-07-07 6:32:55 AM  

Two Dogs Farking: I saw it last night. Didn't piss me off at all.

If you liked Ragnarok, you'll love this one.


Ragnarok is my favorite MCU movie so that's good news.
 
2022-07-07 6:36:33 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: This will be interesting to see who this pisses off.


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2022-07-07 6:38:19 AM  
That article acts like Waititi never did anything of account before the first Thor movie he directed.

The Hunt for the Wilderpeople?  What We Do in the Shadows?  Those were mainstream hits.

His earlier stuff like Boy and Eagle vs. Shark failed to find an audience, sure, but not because they weren't good movies.

He had his own style of humor right from the start.

Thriller Haka to Poi E From Taika Waititi's "Boy"
Youtube u-TiQXCJtRk
 
2022-07-07 7:03:32 AM  
I dunno,

I liked "Fat Thor".

Sometimes real life tends to knock you on your ass, and you have to claw your way back.
And he did pop Thanos' noggin off his head like a champagne cork.

So if this is "Finding Your Way Thor" or "Ready to Retire and Cash Out Thor", I'm OK with that too.

I guess if Kamala Khan resonates with teens, I guess I can relating to MCU Thor as I get deeper into middle age.
 
2022-07-07 7:13:18 AM  

resident dystopian: I dunno,

I liked "Fat Thor".

Sometimes real life tends to knock you on your ass, and you have to claw your way back.
And he did pop Thanos' noggin off his head like a champagne cork.

So if this is "Finding Your Way Thor" or "Ready to Retire and Cash Out Thor", I'm OK with that too.


Prepare yourself.
 
2022-07-07 7:52:17 AM  
They're never happy, so don't bother trying.  As I've said before, the only two casting choices that didn't ignite nerd rage were Patrick Stewart and Scarlett Johansson.
 
2022-07-07 8:41:23 AM  

CoonAce: Taika David Cohen ... and he's a hack.


He's a hack who somehow has managed to talk Rita Ora AND Tessa Thompson into sharing him and doing it publicly.  He could have Ed Wood levels of talent and I will still say he's winning life/   That said I think Thor Ragnorak and  Jojo Rabbit are brilliant films
 
2022-07-07 8:46:48 AM  

BullBearMS: That article acts like Waititi never did anything of account before the first Thor movie he directed.

The Hunt for the Wilderpeople?  What We Do in the Shadows?  Those were mainstream hits.

His earlier stuff like Boy and Eagle vs. Shark failed to find an audience, sure, but not because they weren't good movies.

He had his own style of humor right from the start.

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my life is better knowing this exists...thank you
 
2022-07-07 9:01:58 AM  

BafflerMeal: That movie was bad. And it should feel bad. I mean, just sooo bad. In need a of fewer "yes men" and someone to edit occasionally. On almost every dimension of film making it was bad.  And jebus boring as fark.


You're needed in the Reddit thread where a frenzy is currently being whipped up about this movie being worse than cancer and the harbinger of the demise of the MCU. I think it also killed someone's grandma.
 
2022-07-07 9:06:26 AM  

BullBearMS: That article acts like Waititi never did anything of account before the first Thor movie he directed.

The Hunt for the Wilderpeople?  What We Do in the Shadows?  Those were mainstream hits.

His earlier stuff like Boy and Eagle vs. Shark failed to find an audience, sure, but not because they weren't good movies.

He had his own style of humor right from the start.

[YouTube video: Thriller Haka to Poi E From Taika Waititi's "Boy"]


I got a kick out of that. Do the Maori, generally speaking, approve?
 
2022-07-07 9:21:55 AM  

Two Dogs Farking: I saw it last night. Didn't piss me off at all.

If you liked Ragnarok, you'll love this one.


It's not as bad as "Dark World", so it's got that going for it.
 
2022-07-07 9:49:27 AM  
Ah, too bad for him MCU fans aren't as easily triggered as Star Wars fanbois
 
2022-07-07 10:53:04 AM  

TDWCom29: Ah, too bad for him MCU fans aren't as easily triggered as Star Wars fanbois


He's making a Stat Wars film.
 
2022-07-07 11:26:50 AM  

Flappyhead: They're never happy, so don't bother trying.  As I've said before, the only two casting choices that didn't ignite nerd rage were Patrick Stewart and Scarlett Johansson.


And Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
 
2022-07-07 11:36:41 AM  
I know having Mjolnir wielded by a Jewish actress will reaaaaaaaaally piss off a certain subset of fans obsessed with Norse iconography and mythology, and that makes me happy.
 
2022-07-07 12:01:30 PM  
Some fans should be grateful that they can take their past youtube rants about the comic where Jane got the hammer and how the this type of thing is killing the comic book industry and just update those rants by just switching a couple words.
 
2022-07-07 5:07:13 PM  
uhhh this is some massive pile of bs that hopes you can't remember jack about the last 10 years of your own life.


'In "Love and Thunder" there are things that usually never enter the MCU, like kids and cancer. "


uhhh no. the simpleton sympathy ploy of, child has cancer, is an easy go to no work lazy writer device we see time and again.
and you can replace "cancer" with any serious danger we heap onto the child like being abducted and enslaved
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we don't need to do any actual creative efforts with that setup. She was abducted and enslaved as a child, and there is nothig more we need to know about her, just feel sympathy already will ya.


the X variable heaped on the shoulders of a child is automatic sympathy no more story telling effort needed.


Also i assume author didn't watch or recall ironman 3.
got a whole child supporting character that tony stark gets some of his best character mounts with, he at no point in time becomes a good parent/big brother to the child, he remains tony stark, the kid is just treated like any other person that just works for him. no kid glove treatments for anyone. Where's my sandwich?


also use of the autospank sympathy traps from writers, mom is at the bar, dad absconded him years ago, of course.
 
2022-07-07 5:18:38 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Some fans should be grateful that they can take their past youtube rants about the comic where Jane got the hammer and how the this type of thing is killing the comic book industry and just update those rants by just switching a couple words.


I don't really follow comics but who doesn't like R63?
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2022-07-07 5:29:13 PM  
I don't have a cat in this race but this picture is adorable:

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2022-07-07 6:33:58 PM  

BullBearMS: That article acts like Waititi never did anything of account before the first Thor movie he directed.

The Hunt for the Wilderpeople?  What We Do in the Shadows?  Those were mainstream hits.

His earlier stuff like Boy and Eagle vs. Shark failed to find an audience, sure, but not because they weren't good movies.

He had his own style of humor right from the start.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/u-TiQXCJtRk?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsapi=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&widgetid=1]



Eagle vs Shark was spectacularly awesome.

Eagle vs Shark (2007) Official Trailer #1 - Jemaine Clement Comedy
Youtube NW2bqu7URfM
 
2022-07-07 10:38:22 PM  
"If you were to say them: 'Yeah, I'm going to make Thor in love,' it's probably the last thing that a Thor fan really wants to hear."

... that'd be weird, since one of Thor's primary running villains' whole schtick is making people fall in love, usually with her.  And her explicitly-stated motivation often involves seducing Thor as an end in itself for various typically-petty-god-nonsense reasons, or exploiting love and relationships as a middle step in some other scheme.

Is he assuming all "Thor fans" are only fans of the movies, and only the second movie specifically?  Because the comics version of mighty Thor is waaaaaaay goofier and shamelessly silly, petty, and willing to make even the title character farking ridiculous than Waititi's interpretation.  It can be serious and epic, and Thor the character is usually the straight man to the goofiness, but in general it is not a srs bzns title for serious grown-ups only.

Like... there's absolutely no way that Waititi can indulge half as much in the deep silliness of there being multiple Thors as the source material does.  There are like fifty people with some variant of Thor's power or who have held the hammer in Mighty Thor without resorting to alternate universes.  One of the readership's favorite Thors is a frog.  Not a humanoid frog, literally a frog.  With the cute little winged hat glued to his frog head and shiat.  And also there's a possibly-separate frog Thor who was a transformed normal-Thor, but had a distinct personality from both.  Or something.  This was a main storyline that dominated the title for like a farking year.

Jane Foster being Thor because main-Thor just kinda decided to do something else for a bit was what Asgard calls a "slow tuesday".  Like, it made an order of magnitude more sense than alternate-Thors usually do, since she was part of the boring "another human is worthy and picks up the hammer" brigade.  IIRC the only thing that made her special was that Odin was involved in the decision (usually Thor just like... loses Mjolnir, or intentionally hands it to someone, or lightning strikes a random frog, etc), and even that was basically a reference to his original origin story where Odin was farking around in exactly the same way.

tl;dr: farking bring it, Kiwi.  Challenging Thor fans on their tolerance for weird shiat and Thor being the butt of the joke is a sucker's game.
 
2022-07-07 11:38:09 PM  

Jim_Callahan: farking bring it, Kiwi.  Challenging Thor fans on their tolerance for weird shiat and Thor being the butt of the joke is a sucker's game.


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"And what if Thor's the butt of a joke where the joke is Thor's butt? Did I just blow your mind, sucka?"
 
2022-07-08 1:53:37 AM  

Jim_Callahan: "If you were to say them: 'Yeah, I'm going to make Thor in love,' it's probably the last thing that a Thor fan really wants to hear."

... that'd be weird, since one of Thor's primary running villains' whole schtick is making people fall in love, usually with her.  And her explicitly-stated motivation often involves seducing Thor as an end in itself for various typically-petty-god-nonsense reasons, or exploiting love and relationships as a middle step in some other scheme.

Is he assuming all "Thor fans" are only fans of the movies, and only the second movie specifically?  Because the comics version of mighty Thor is waaaaaaay goofier and shamelessly silly, petty, and willing to make even the title character farking ridiculous than Waititi's interpretation.  It can be serious and epic, and Thor the character is usually the straight man to the goofiness, but in general it is not a srs bzns title for serious grown-ups only.

Like... there's absolutely no way that Waititi can indulge half as much in the deep silliness of there being multiple Thors as the source material does.  There are like fifty people with some variant of Thor's power or who have held the hammer in Mighty Thor without resorting to alternate universes.  One of the readership's favorite Thors is a frog.  Not a humanoid frog, literally a frog.  With the cute little winged hat glued to his frog head and shiat.  And also there's a possibly-separate frog Thor who was a transformed normal-Thor, but had a distinct personality from both.  Or something.  This was a main storyline that dominated the title for like a farking year.

Jane Foster being Thor because main-Thor just kinda decided to do something else for a bit was what Asgard calls a "slow tuesday".  Like, it made an order of magnitude more sense than alternate-Thors usually do, since she was part of the boring "another human is worthy and picks up the hammer" brigade.  IIRC the only thing that made her special was that Odin was involved in the decision (usually Thor just like... loses Mjolnir, or intentionally hands it to someone, or lightning strikes a random frog, etc), and even that was basically a reference to his original origin story where Odin was farking around in exactly the same way.

tl;dr: farking bring it, Kiwi.  Challenging Thor fans on their tolerance for weird shiat and Thor being the butt of the joke is a sucker's game.


The article seems to be a pre-emptive "lol I troll u"
 
2022-07-08 4:41:16 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: This will be interesting to see who this pisses off.


BafflerMeal: That movie was bad. And it should feel bad. I mean, just sooo bad.


That's one..
 
2022-07-08 9:56:07 AM  

Rock Krenn: BullBearMS: That article acts like Waititi never did anything of account before the first Thor movie he directed.

The Hunt for the Wilderpeople?  What We Do in the Shadows?  Those were mainstream hits.

His earlier stuff like Boy and Eagle vs. Shark failed to find an audience, sure, but not because they weren't good movies.

He had his own style of humor right from the start.

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Eagle vs Shark was spectacularly awesome.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/NW2bqu7URfM]


It's great for those of us who appreciate dry humor.
 
2022-07-08 10:59:19 AM  

Two Dogs Farking: If you liked Ragnarok, you'll love this one.


Knowing I was going to see it late last night, reading your comment got me pretty excited.  Ragnarok is a top 3 Marvel flick for me (though I'm admittedly not a comic book movie/show die-hard) and I've loved everything I've seen from Waititi.

But this one fell a bit flat for me.  I fell asleep during the climax of the film, which I partially attribute to still not being fully acclimated to east coast time again after travelling home from Europe earlier this week.  However, the 11pm movie is my go-to slot and the last one I can remember dozing off during was The Rise of Skywalker.

I'll reserve final judgement until I rewatch on Disney+, and I wouldn't label this a bad movie by any means. What I saw was entertaining, but just seems as though it's ultimately going to fall into the bin of irrelevance.

Long story short, I liked it, didn't love it.
 
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