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(Vanity Fair)   Apparently Donald Trump is trying to jump into the 2024 presidential race ASAP because he thinks he can deflect any criminal charges by claiming that prosecutors are just politically motivated   (vanityfair.com) divider line
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2022-07-06 5:05:06 PM  
 "I'm just not seeing the urgency from the attorney general," Democratic congressman Ruben Gallego told CNN last month. "He's thinking more about protecting the institution of the Department of Justice.

That right there is America's epitaph.
 
2022-07-06 5:08:59 PM  
It will work with a lot of his base.

The GQP will get in line. They would rather win with tfg than lose
 
2022-07-06 5:11:29 PM  
I'd like to fire him out of a cannon and into the Sun. For humanitarian reasons, not political ones.
 
2022-07-06 5:12:38 PM  
I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.
 
2022-07-06 5:14:07 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.


You are brave.  Buon Fortuna!
 
2022-07-06 5:18:34 PM  
I am going to read "tfg" as Ted's Frog Gumbo from here on out.
 
2022-07-06 5:20:32 PM  
Sounds about as good of thinking if before commiting a criminal act asking the person if they are a cop and thinking they have to tell you.
 
2022-07-06 5:26:20 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.


Be careful what you wish for...DeSantis is even more dangerous than TFG.
 
2022-07-06 5:36:32 PM  
He's not wrong, Garland will take an excuse to take the cowardly route
 
2022-07-06 5:37:19 PM  
Whether he's right or wrong about that remains to be seen.
 
2022-07-06 5:37:49 PM  
That's a smart play. I like President Trump. I hope he runs and wins so we can get all these messes straightened out.
 
2022-07-06 5:38:09 PM  
No farking duh? That's been the plan since the day after the election.
 
2022-07-06 5:38:54 PM  
vs. DeathSantis. Sure. Go for it, asshole. LOL
 
2022-07-06 5:39:10 PM  
If Tramp put his bid for the WH in now, it will do wonderful things for the Democrats in the midterms.

/still hoping he's in jail and/or ineligible to run by 2023
 
2022-07-06 5:40:01 PM  

Lambskincoat: "I'm just not seeing the urgency from the attorney general," Democratic congressman Ruben Gallego told CNN last month. "He's thinking more about protecting the institution of the Department of Justice.

That right there is America's epitaph.


Gallego is also the guy who went on camera to say that on 1/6 he rallied legislators to not leave the capitol because if the legitimate government flees the capitol, the traitors have won.

Gallego knows what's going on. And he's exactly right to call Garland a Lawful Stupid Paladin.
 
2022-07-06 5:41:38 PM  
I thought he was announcing on July 4th? Did he get upstaged by another mass murder?
 
2022-07-06 5:41:53 PM  
Next up, water wet, fire hot.

Of course he's going to try it, he's got nothing to lose and a few more years of being bulletproof to gain. Not to mention all that sweet grifting material.

"The democrats are trying to prosecute me in their totally BS court. Don't let them get away with it! Vote for me, and donate to fight them! Donations over $500 get an amazing collectible hat!*

* Made in china, offer only valid for recurring donation pledges."
 
2022-07-06 5:42:30 PM  

tudorgurl: Marcus Aurelius: I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.

Be careful what you wish for...DeSantis is even more dangerous than TFG.


I've been going back and forth on this... Like, he's clearly smarter than Trump. But does that make him more dangerous? Part of what made Trump so dangerous was how god damn stupid he was.

On the other hand, he could be more effective at enacting regressive policy without alienating moderate swing voters who were turned off by Trump's behavior more than his policies.

I'm still leaning towards him being less dangerous, on the fact that I don't think he can build a cult of personality around himself. Trump being a moron is what made him so relatable to half the country. DeSantis is just dorky.
 
2022-07-06 5:42:35 PM  

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: That's a smart play. I like President Trump. I hope he runs and wins so we can get all these messes straightened out.


Username checks out, comrade
 
2022-07-06 5:42:51 PM  

edmo: I thought he was announcing on July 4th? Did he get upstaged by another mass murder?


It's pretty hard not to at this point.
 
2022-07-06 5:43:46 PM  

Dafatone: No farking duh? That's been the plan since the day after the election.


That's what I remember too, but breathless headlines, you know.
We gotta have 'em.
 
2022-07-06 5:44:35 PM  

anjin-san: tudorgurl: Marcus Aurelius: I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.

Be careful what you wish for...DeSantis is even more dangerous than TFG.

I've been going back and forth on this... Like, he's clearly smarter than Trump. But does that make him more dangerous? Part of what made Trump so dangerous was how god damn stupid he was.

On the other hand, he could be more effective at enacting regressive policy without alienating moderate swing voters who were turned off by Trump's behavior more than his policies.

I'm still leaning towards him being less dangerous, on the fact that I don't think he can build a cult of personality around himself. Trump being a moron is what made him so relatable to half the country. DeSantis is just dorky.


I think he's more dangerous. I think he's the halfway competent evil we were all relieved Trump wasn't.
 
2022-07-06 5:44:53 PM  
There is an old, classic Doctor Who story from 1976, Tom Baker's "The Deadly Assassin."  In it, the Doctor tries to circumvent false murder charges against him by running for President of Gallifrey (something in their legal system says that Presidential candidates can't be brought up on charges?).  I'm was guessing someone like Stephen Miller or Don Jr. saw that story and convinced Donald that he couldn't be arrested for anything if he ran again.
 
2022-07-06 5:45:49 PM  
There are, technically, hundreds of people who are official, registered, legally-recognized candidates for president every cycle, though most obviously don't make the final general election ballot in most states.

In any given cycle, usually ten plus of those candidates are doing it while either under indictment for something or actually in jail, usually in an attempt to remedy that in some weird conspiracy-theory logic.

Eugene Debs famously ran a credible campaign for president while in prison, netting a respectable 4% of the vote in 1920.

... tl;dr: running a presidential campaign will not protect you from criminal charges unless you actually win.
 
2022-07-06 5:47:55 PM  
4th of July Sale
1 year for $29.99 $8 + a free tote.
 
2022-07-06 5:50:21 PM  

Dafatone: No farking duh? That's been the plan since the day after the election.


Yeah, but 2016 was a long time ago.
 
2022-07-06 5:50:23 PM  

Fern Crest: If Tramp put his bid for the WH in now, it will do wonderful things for the Democrats in the midterms.

/still hoping he's in jail and/or ineligible to run by 2023


Ain't nothing...
 
2022-07-06 5:50:28 PM  
"Donald Trump tried to have me murdered!"
"Was he President at the time?"
"...y...yes? Why?"
"Let's not get political!"
 
2022-07-06 5:50:42 PM  
I'm wholeheartedly awaiting the Stormtrumpers that said he was totally going to announce his running for a 3rd POTUS term on July 4th claiming that "our" July 4th isn't actually Independence Day and it's actually like a month later.
 
2022-07-06 5:50:56 PM  
He may not be wrong. Democrats care more about the appearance of propriety than justice, as evidenced by *gestures towards everything*.
 
2022-07-06 5:51:28 PM  
The right is already saying this. I hate that trump gets so much free press. We didn't learn our lesson
 
2022-07-06 5:52:03 PM  
Yeah, anyone with a brain saw that coming.

/of course, he'd say it was political even if he wasn't running
 
2022-07-06 5:52:23 PM  

Jim_Callahan: There are, technically, hundreds of people who are official, registered, legally-recognized candidates for president every cycle, though most obviously don't make the final general election ballot in most states.

In any given cycle, usually ten plus of those candidates are doing it while either under indictment for something or actually in jail, usually in an attempt to remedy that in some weird conspiracy-theory logic.

Eugene Debs famously ran a credible campaign for president while in prison, netting a respectable 4% of the vote in 1920.

... tl;dr: running a presidential campaign will not protect you from criminal charges unless you actually win.


Charges have to be brought first though, and the DOJ has a very vague policy about not interfering in elections with charges or etc. Winning or losing an election from jail only applies if there's a charge brought in the first place which then leads to a conviction.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/justice-departments-policy-against-election-interference-open-abuse

In practice Republican AG's will ignore it if it's inconvenient (they'll just claim in bad faith they interpret the vague policy in a way that doesn't contradict what they're doing), and Democrats will generally slavishly adhere to it in as broad an interpretation as they can figure.

I'd like the DOJ to do its job, I just won't believe they will simply because I want to. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
2022-07-06 5:56:10 PM  

no1curr: I'd like to fire him out of a cannon and into the Sun. For humanitarian reasons, not political ones.


Do you have any idea how much propellant it would take to send 350 pounds of shiat to the sun?

Because I'd really like to contribute to your cause.
 
2022-07-06 5:56:30 PM  
Imagine having committed so many serious crimes that you figure the only way out of this total shiat show was to run for President of the United States.

Ya gotta hand it to him.. with *that* kind of pressure, most people would probably just skip the country or simply shoot themselves.
 
2022-07-06 5:56:56 PM  

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: That's a smart play. I like President Trump. I hope he runs and wins so we can get all these messes straightened out.


God willing friend! He's got a big personality but deep down he's a straight shooter with our best interests above his own.

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2022-07-06 5:57:45 PM  

tudorgurl: Marcus Aurelius: I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.

Be careful what you wish for...DeSantis is even more dangerous than TFG.


A lot of Rs like DeSantis but I'm not sure he captures the truly deplorables favor. If DeSantis wins the R nod and Trump goes Independent then we'll see some fun.
 
2022-07-06 5:59:03 PM  
"Dumbass" tag? Try "Obvious". The moment he declares his candidacy, the Repubs will begin SCREAMING that this is all politically motivated to sully the candidate's name or some bullshiat like that.

It's gonna happen. I promise. You know why I know? Because it's the most obviously shiatty thing TFG could do, therefore there's no doubt in my mind he'll do it.
 
2022-07-06 5:59:49 PM  

wage0048: no1curr: I'd like to fire him out of a cannon and into the Sun. For humanitarian reasons, not political ones.

Do you have any idea how much propellant it would take to send 350 pounds of shiat to the sun?

Because I'd really like to contribute to your cause.


Strictly speaking we only need >350lbs of upward force, then some wiggle room to aim a nudge towards the sun.

It could be doable. Get Musk on it. It's about time he did something for the common good.
 
2022-07-06 5:59:55 PM  
well it worked for him for the previous 4 years... he even has the phone number of an AG that will state loudly and publicly that a sitting president can't be investigated or charged with anything while in office.
 
2022-07-06 6:00:22 PM  
This whole thing reminds me of what might have happened if Hitler had been caught alive at the end of WW2.

Deflections, "I didn't do it, he did" statements, underlings caught and put on trial, and mostly the capture of millions of documents, way more than when the Eagle's Nest was captured and thousands of not yet burned items were found. Hitler would have been tried and hanged, no doubt about that.

Goebbels and the lot of them held as witnesses at his trial, the entire country of Germany divided, and in general the entire operation fully exposed for generations to read and see.

So far we've got the January 6th trials (let's call them what they are) and defections by smaller lower level underlings.

The masterminds behind the defective president have pleaded the Fifth Amendment hundreds of times, pleads for pardons abounded and most of all, Biden has been a lousy president so far, but he was handed the keys to the Titanic as it was going down and given a pail and shovel to bail it out.

Meanwhile Russia misses its puppet president and is dying on the vine as its dying dictator tries to blame others for his idiocy. America is beginning a new civil war, and no one can blame one thing accurately that sent it into a tailspin.

However, Trump seems to the only way to put this into any kind of web-like perspective. His ineptitude and horrible (or no) decisions have taken us here and old Biden has done very little to try and reverse what he did.

The overlap is obvious, and the inmates have taken over the asylum... not with Tiki torches, but with guns and stupidity on a level not seen on this country's history.

/still glad to be here
//still going to be a 25+ year Chicago fireman
///still going to be a 2nd generation Army veteran
////still gonna love my flag
//watching the circling drain kind of sucks, though
 
2022-07-06 6:01:04 PM  

Lambskincoat: "I'm just not seeing the urgency from the attorney general," Democratic congressman Ruben Gallego told CNN last month. "He's thinking more about protecting the institution of the Department of Justice.

That right there is America's epitaph.


I mean, Garland is out if Trump takes over.  And if he's not, then you know he's owned.
 
2022-07-06 6:01:50 PM  
Yeah, yeah. We knew this last week, which might be why Zoe Lofgren warned him that he's facing wire fraud for all his fundraising bulschit.
 
2022-07-06 6:02:11 PM  
Farking Stupid Caesar!

The way the farking world is going, ancient history is going to repeat itself. In the most idiotic way possible.


/I'll have faith when he's behind bars.
//Until then this is the darkest timeline.
 
2022-07-06 6:02:20 PM  

WrathX: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: That's a smart play. I like President Trump. I hope he runs and wins so we can get all these messes straightened out.

Username checks out, comrade


Not really, right? Solzhenitsyn was a dissident. Opposed authoritarian regimes. I would submit he would have hated on tfg.
Perhaps our poster is being sarcastic.
 
2022-07-06 6:02:51 PM  

anjin-san: tudorgurl: Marcus Aurelius: I may have to register as Republican so I can vote for DeSantis in the primary.  Trump would attack him harder than the Democrats nominee, and split the R vote.

Be careful what you wish for...DeSantis is even more dangerous than TFG.

I've been going back and forth on this... Like, he's clearly smarter than Trump. But does that make him more dangerous? Part of what made Trump so dangerous was how god damn stupid he was.

On the other hand, he could be more effective at enacting regressive policy without alienating moderate swing voters who were turned off by Trump's behavior more than his policies.

I'm still leaning towards him being less dangerous, on the fact that I don't think he can build a cult of personality around himself. Trump being a moron is what made him so relatable to half the country. DeSantis is just dorky.


His attack on Disneyworld demonstrates that he is just as dangerous as the Traitor: he is a sociopath who explicitly seeks to use the power of government to attack anyone/anything he sees as having crossed him personally.
 
2022-07-06 6:03:59 PM  
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2022-07-06 6:04:22 PM  

NateAsbestos: wage0048: no1curr: I'd like to fire him out of a cannon and into the Sun. For humanitarian reasons, not political ones.

Do you have any idea how much propellant it would take to send 350 pounds of shiat to the sun?

Because I'd really like to contribute to your cause.

Strictly speaking we only need >350lbs of upward force, then some wiggle room to aim a nudge towards the sun.

It could be doable. Get Musk on it. It's about time he did something for the common good.


Nope, you'd need a significant amount of fuel to counteract the inertia from Earth's orbit (and thus anything launched from Earth) around the sun.  Sending him into deep space would be much easier (albeit less satisfying)

/revenge is a dish most efficiently served cold
 
2022-07-06 6:04:31 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: edmo: I thought he was announcing on July 4th? Did he get upstaged by another mass murder?

It's pretty hard not to at this point.


Maybe the guy pushing it is a little gun shy now

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2022-07-06 6:07:50 PM  

Jim_Callahan: There are, technically, hundreds of people who are official, registered, legally-recognized candidates for president every cycle, though most obviously don't make the final general election ballot in most states.

In any given cycle, usually ten plus of those candidates are doing it while either under indictment for something or actually in jail, usually in an attempt to remedy that in some weird conspiracy-theory logic.

Eugene Debs famously ran a credible campaign for president while in prison, netting a respectable 4% of the vote in 1920.

... tl;dr: running a presidential campaign will not protect you from criminal charges unless you actually win.


Yeah, that's the way things used to work, back when the world was mostly sane.

These days, the new rules are that Republicans (in office or just declared as candidates) can get away with any and all crimes up to and including murder, treason, and crimes against humanity, and get rewarded for them, all the while screeching that Democrats are never held accountable.
 
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