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(Phys Org2)   Stone tools: So easy, anyone could do it   (phys.org) divider line
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2022-07-06 8:26:15 PM  
Yes - but the modern people in this "experiment" have heard of stone tools - seen them in books or museums, and most people have some general idea of how they were made.
It's hardly the same as some primitive who has never heard of such a thing figuring it out.
 
2022-07-06 8:42:52 PM  
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2022-07-06 8:57:10 PM  
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2022-07-06 9:07:05 PM  
People in Georgia like to use the term "Alabama hammer" as a slur on their neolithic neighbors.

The general idea is that stone tools are... ubiquitous... for people skilled at using stone tools.

Which is nice.

/  Beats using 10 rolls of cellophane wrap
// To make a bed.
/// Or a YouTube video.
 
2022-07-06 9:31:47 PM  
Let's see.
The study shows shows that people who know nothing about "knapping" techniques when given some suitable "rocks" could invent their own way to bash them together to make a crude cutting edge. (there are only a few different ways to do this)

Therefore no cultural transmission is needed.

Maybe the cultural knowledge needed was how to recognize which rocks were good for tool making and where to find them.That is valuable knowledge well worth passing down.

Different cultures probably used preferred types of materials from preferred locations, often far from where they lived.

// As a kid I tried making some stone tools from shale and they sucked.
 
2022-07-06 9:45:51 PM  

jso2897: Yes - but the modern people in this "experiment" have heard of stone tools - seen them in books or museums, and most people have some general idea of how they were made.
It's hardly the same as some primitive who has never heard of such a thing figuring it out.


This is what I was thinking. If you were an early hominid, how many times in your natural life would you encounter some situation in which a rock is split in your presence? They don't break when struck with wooden or bone clubs and you can't rip them apart by hand, for all you know they could be indestructible. And let's say you were throwing rocks at prey, one might break but that doesn't necessarily translate into the idea of a sharp edge being a usable tool in itself. Given enough time, opportunity, and hominids literally brute-forcing the problem the concept of tools and their methods of construction can be originated, but that isn't something innate and instinctual to us.
 
2022-07-06 9:51:49 PM  
'Early stone tools were not rocket science"

They were rock science!
 
2022-07-06 9:56:06 PM  

Nimbull: 'Early stone tools were not rocket science"

They were rock science!


What about the girl rocks?
 
2022-07-06 10:42:31 PM  
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made with stone tools. smh
 
2022-07-06 10:49:12 PM  
It's not that far out there to believe ancient people had techniques that got lost to time.

See: gen Z vs baby boomers
 
2022-07-06 10:56:34 PM  
NOT.  COOL.
*storms off of set*
 
2022-07-06 11:32:07 PM  
Well, chimpanzees do it, and it's speculated many other animals can spontaneously "discover" simple tools: Crows, octopuses, otters...
 
2022-07-06 11:47:06 PM  
Use these stone tools to produce a 2,000 word salad
 
2022-07-07 12:12:28 AM  
They didn't disprove anything about the timeline of culture, just one line of evidence.

Another line of evidence is that all great apes have demonstrated cultural transmission of culture and thus it is likely that our last common ancestor was capable of it rather than all of us spontaneously developing it separately.
 
2022-07-07 12:29:31 AM  

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made with stone tools. smh


You'll get over it.
 
2022-07-07 1:26:57 AM  
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Knows what Subby was really thinking.
 
2022-07-07 1:37:40 AM  

deadsanta: Well, chimpanzees do it, and it's speculated many other animals can spontaneously "discover" simple tools: Crows, octopuses, otters...


Speculated? Crows creating tools is documented.
 
2022-07-07 2:45:12 AM  
I'm not a gunsmith and have never built a gun, but if you gave me the tools to do it I could make something that shoots.
 
2022-07-07 3:32:38 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: I'm not a gunsmith and have never built a gun, but if you gave me the tools to do it I could make something that shoots.


With enough gunpowder, anything can shoot once...
 
2022-07-07 3:55:20 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Harry Wagstaff: I'm not a gunsmith and have never built a gun, but if you gave me the tools to do it I could make something that shoots.

With enough gunpowder, anything can shoot once...


That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying. Anyone can make a tool to open a box with money in it. How many of those tools that they made could be used multiple times to skin multiple animals over multiple years? Hell, we have people in prison that make knives out of shiat like paper or toothbrushes. You aren't going to use any of those to skin an animal or even properly butcher one which is what those primal tools that "anyone can make" are capable of doing.
 
2022-07-07 11:48:55 AM  

jso2897: Yes - but the modern people in this "experiment" have heard of stone tools - seen them in books or museums, and most people have some general idea of how they were made.
It's hardly the same as some primitive who has never heard of such a thing figuring it out.


So many ideas are obvious in retrospect. We shouldn't look down on our ancestors for not figuring out the things we were given.
 
2022-07-07 3:06:35 PM  
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2022-07-07 7:31:00 PM  
"The secret is to bang the rocks together!"
 
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