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2022-07-06 10:09:16 AM  
Cool. Is his face old enough to drive yet?
 
2022-07-06 10:25:52 AM  
I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.
 
2022-07-06 10:35:13 AM  

Kitty2.0: I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.


Aside from Rocky throwing off some serious date rapey vibes, sure. Then again, it was the 70s.
 
2022-07-06 11:02:03 AM  
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2022-07-06 11:05:44 AM  
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2022-07-06 11:21:32 AM  

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2022-07-06 11:24:14 AM  

Kitty2.0: I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.


Carl Weathers should have been nominated for an Oscar for best supporting actor.

And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.

/Would like to pretend that Rocky 5 does not exist.
//Dame goes for the third Godfather movie.
 
2022-07-06 11:24:33 AM  
Also born on this day, Nancy Reagan (dead) Dave Allen (dead), George W Bush (not dead) and me. (results forthcoming)
 
2022-07-06 11:25:15 AM  

Stantz: Also born on this day, Nancy Reagan (dead) Dave Allen (dead), George W Bush (not dead) and me. (results forthcoming)


Happy Birthday.
 
2022-07-06 11:30:07 AM  
Speaking of Rocky....

It did the cheesy tourist thing and went to the "Rocky steps" when I had a 24 layover in Philly back in 2018.  My fat ass couldn't even do a slow jog up those steps because I had slipped in my hotel bathroom the day before, and tweaked my knee...so I limped up to take some pictures.

And when I went to Pat's Cheesteaks, they had an autographed pic of the most famous Stallone....you guessed it....

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2022-07-06 11:36:46 AM  

The_Sponge: Kitty2.0: I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.

Carl Weathers should have been nominated for an Oscar for best supporting actor.

And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.

/Would like to pretend that Rocky 5 does not exist.
//Dame goes for the third Godfather movie.


While Rocky V is indeed terrible, my hot take is that Rocky Balboa is the worst of the Rocky movies.  They tried so hard to course correct after the fifth one, that it went too far and the premise of the film itself is mind bogglingly stupid.  At least Rocky V has a little of that "so bad it's funny" quality.

After the success of the original, I can see why Rocky II was made.  I don't think it's very good either though.  Parts III and IV are really fun 80s cheese, though part IV is like 80% montage.  If I had to rate the Rocky-verse (including Creed films), here's how I'd do it...

8. Rocky Balboa
7. Rocky V
6. Creed II
5. Rocky II
4. Rocky IV
3. Rocky III
2. Creed
1. Rocky
 
2022-07-06 11:45:23 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: The_Sponge: Kitty2.0: I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.

Carl Weathers should have been nominated for an Oscar for best supporting actor.

And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.

/Would like to pretend that Rocky 5 does not exist.
//Dame goes for the third Godfather movie.

While Rocky V is indeed terrible, my hot take is that Rocky Balboa is the worst of the Rocky movies.  They tried so hard to course correct after the fifth one, that it went too far and the premise of the film itself is mind bogglingly stupid.  At least Rocky V has a little of that "so bad it's funny" quality.

After the success of the original, I can see why Rocky II was made.  I don't think it's very good either though.  Parts III and IV are really fun 80s cheese, though part IV is like 80% montage.  If I had to rate the Rocky-verse (including Creed films), here's how I'd do it...

8. Rocky Balboa
7. Rocky V
6. Creed II
5. Rocky II
4. Rocky IV
3. Rocky III
2. Creed
1. Rocky


My list would be a little different, but I agree with most of what you said.

My silly opinion:

Since Rocky III had Mr. T and Hulk Hogan, it's a shame Roddy Piper wasn't in  it.  (Although I realize that the movie came out before Wrestlemania.)
 
2022-07-06 11:46:23 AM  

The_Sponge: And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.


Rocky 4? Really? He wins over the Russian crowd in Russia to the point where they actually had an American flag to wrap him in? And BTW, in a flashback montage, you can't flashback to something that happened three minutes ago. Not yours.

And yes, Rocky 5 was terrible. It is not possible, outside of owing the IRS, for someone of his celebrity status to go broke and not be able to immediately rebound back to having millions.

Unless he spent all his money trying to cure his son's accelerated aging. The only two films that didn't occur one immediately after the previous one were Rocky 2-3 and that couldn't have been more than a year, maybe two. But from Rocky 2-5 he went from a fetus to a high school kid.
 
2022-07-06 11:50:07 AM  

Mugato: The_Sponge: And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.

Rocky 4? Really? He wins over the Russian crowd in Russia to the point where they actually had an American flag to wrap him in? And BTW, in a flashback montage, you can't flashback to something that happened three minutes ago. Not yours.

And yes, Rocky 5 was terrible. It is not possible, outside of owing the IRS, for someone of his celebrity status to go broke and not be able to immediately rebound back to having millions.

Unless he spent all his money trying to cure his son's accelerated aging. The only two films that didn't occur one immediately after the previous one were Rocky 2-3 and that couldn't have been more than a year, maybe two. But from Rocky 2-5 he went from a fetus to a high school kid.


Rocky IV is probably the worst of the original 4, but IMHO, it's an iconic 80s movie...despite some cheese.
 
2022-07-06 11:50:48 AM  

Mugato: Cool. Is his face old enough to drive yet?


I thought he looked really good in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
 
2022-07-06 12:02:17 PM  
I like Rocky V.   Many iconic scenes.  Yes... its cartoonish, even more than the other films, but it follows the same formula, and lets be real, the actual sport of boxing was getting cartoonish at that point in time.  It was a mirror of that.
 
2022-07-06 12:06:32 PM  

Mugato: Unless he spent all his money trying to cure his son's accelerated aging. The only two films that didn't occur one immediately after the previous one were Rocky 2-3 and that couldn't have been more than a year, maybe two. But from Rocky 2-5 he went from a fetus to a high school kid.


The aging of the kid between 2-4 tracks normally.  It's the leap between 4 and 5 that's so hilarious, due to Stallone wanting his own kid in the latter.

The_Sponge: My list would be a little different, but I agree with most of what you said.


I'm still just surprised how well done "Creed" was.  Michael B Jordan, Tessa Thompson, Ryan Coogler, and whoever the cinematographer was just knocked it out of the park (and Stallone as well).  I didn't think its sequel was necessarily bad, but it just followed the plot beats of Rocky 2 & 3 too much, and the Drago and Son stuff was wasted.
 
2022-07-06 12:15:56 PM  
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2022-07-06 12:16:14 PM  
The worst part of the Creed movies are Michael B Jordan, himself.   I don't really see any acting going on.  He's a performer.  He's a face with a nice body, who's just 'there'.   His character has yet to go thru any catharsis or evolution, and we're now 2 films in.    He is still struggling with what his true motivations are, and he's not any farther along. 

The Drago son, who was supposedly the bad guy, is much more relatable and sympathetic.   Kudos to the film for giving the villain some dimension, but he doesn't even speak, and is more charasmatic than Michael B Jordan.
 
2022-07-06 12:17:28 PM  
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2022-07-06 12:21:38 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: The aging of the kid between 2-4 tracks normally.  It's the leap between 4 and 5 that's so hilarious, due to Stallone wanting his own kid in the latter.


I don't know. In 3 he was at least five and in four he was like ten.
 
2022-07-06 1:11:37 PM  
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2022-07-06 1:15:45 PM  

Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: The aging of the kid between 2-4 tracks normally.  It's the leap between 4 and 5 that's so hilarious, due to Stallone wanting his own kid in the latter.

I don't know. In 3 he was at least five and in four he was like ten.


Interestingly enough (or not), in my quest to not get any actual work done on my first day back from vacation, I found the Rocky Fandom Wiki Timeline.  The kid is supposed to be 4/5 in part 3.  And he's supposed to be 9 in part 4.
 
2022-07-06 1:26:50 PM  
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2022-07-06 1:26:56 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Kitty2.0: I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.

Aside from Rocky throwing off some serious date rapey vibes, sure. Then again, it was the 70s.


I explained in another thread a few months ago why Rocky's behavior shouldn't be viewed as "date rapey," but I can't find that thread so I'll do my best to re-explain.

For starters, it's fiction. We often laugh at slapstick or behavior in comedy films that would be inappropriate in the real world, and in action films, we often root for behavior that would be unethical or outright criminal in the real world. In fictional romances, it is similarly okay to find behavior romantic that would not be appropriate in reality if that's what the universe of the film is laying down.

There's a scene in Rocky where Adrian tries to leave Rocky's apartment, and he stops her until she is willing to kiss or engage in physical demonstrations of affection. This behavior would obviously NOT be okay in the real world. But in the fiction, we can accept that Rocky fully understands Adrian's insecurities and knows that what she both wants and needs is that "encouragement" from him to overcome them. He knows this because he, too, has his own insecurities. Because it is fiction, he can tap into a level of understanding and a level of certainty of what Adrian really wants that we can't possibly access in the real world. He understands her.

Rocky is, in part, a story about two people who are perfect for each other precisely because of the compatibility of their insecurities and how they can help each other overcome them. It's wonderfully romantic. Just don't try it at home.

Rocky is one of my all-time favorite films. It's near-perfect, in my opinion, and has what I consider the best ending of any movie ever made. Every time I get to talking about it, I want to go watch it again. I think I will.
 
2022-07-06 1:39:28 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Kitty2.0: I watched Rocky for the first time in my life a couple of years ago.

I would have watched it much, much earlier if any guy who said it was the greatest movie ever had bothered to tell me it's an epic love story.

Aside from Rocky throwing off some serious date rapey vibes, sure. Then again, it was the 70s.

I explained in another thread a few months ago why Rocky's behavior shouldn't be viewed as "date rapey," but I can't find that thread so I'll do my best to re-explain.

For starters, it's fiction. We often laugh at slapstick or behavior in comedy films that would be inappropriate in the real world, and in action films, we often root for behavior that would be unethical or outright criminal in the real world. In fictional romances, it is similarly okay to find behavior romantic that would not be appropriate in reality if that's what the universe of the film is laying down.

There's a scene in Rocky where Adrian tries to leave Rocky's apartment, and he stops her until she is willing to kiss or engage in physical demonstrations of affection. This behavior would obviously NOT be okay in the real world. But in the fiction, we can accept that Rocky fully understands Adrian's insecurities and knows that what she both wants and needs is that "encouragement" from him to overcome them. He knows this because he, too, has his own insecurities. Because it is fiction, he can tap into a level of understanding and a level of certainty of what Adrian really wants that we can't possibly access in the real world. He understands her.

Rocky is, in part, a story about two people who are perfect for each other precisely because of the compatibility of their insecurities and how they can help each other overcome them. It's wonderfully romantic. Just don't try it at home.

Rocky is one of my all-time favorite films. It's near-perfect, in my opinion, and has what I consider the best ending of any movie ever made. Every time I get to talking about it, I w ...


I get what you're saying, but I disagree a tad.  It's all fiction, but you can't treat all genres equally in that regard.  The budding relationship between Rocky and Adrian is complex, but that behavior is certainly of its time and is why it seems a bit off-putting viewing with modern eyes.
 
2022-07-06 2:22:28 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: The aging of the kid between 2-4 tracks normally.  It's the leap between 4 and 5 that's so hilarious, due to Stallone wanting his own kid in the latter.

I don't know. In 3 he was at least five and in four he was like ten.

Interestingly enough (or not), in my quest to not get any actual work done on my first day back from vacation, I found the Rocky Fandom Wiki Timeline.  The kid is supposed to be 4/5 in part 3.  And he's supposed to be 9 in part 4.


So I was close. Poor kid. He must be long dead of old age by now.
 
2022-07-06 2:24:32 PM  

Chemlight Battery: I explained in another thread a few months ago why Rocky's behavior shouldn't be viewed as "date rapey," but I can't find that thread so I'll do my best to re-explain.


He's a guido in the 70's.
 
2022-07-06 4:33:07 PM  

Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: The aging of the kid between 2-4 tracks normally.  It's the leap between 4 and 5 that's so hilarious, due to Stallone wanting his own kid in the latter.

I don't know. In 3 he was at least five and in four he was like ten.

Interestingly enough (or not), in my quest to not get any actual work done on my first day back from vacation, I found the Rocky Fandom Wiki Timeline.  The kid is supposed to be 4/5 in part 3.  And he's supposed to be 9 in part 4.

So I was close. Poor kid. He must be long dead of old age by now.


His real son, the one in Rocky V, actually is dead.
 
2022-07-06 5:37:18 PM  

Mugato: So I was close. Poor kid. He must be long dead of old age by now.


I guess?  According to the timeline the kid aged normally up until part 5.  That's when sit went haywire.  He was 9 when Rocky left to fight over in Russia, then magically aged to 15 or so (on screen) when Rocky got home presumably a few months later.
 
2022-07-06 7:06:03 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: I guess?  According to the timeline the kid aged normally up until part 5


There was very little time between 2 and 3., maybe a year. And zero time between 3 and 4 they were literally hours within each other. And also zero space between 4 and 5.

devilskware: His real son, the one in Rocky V, actually is dead.


Well now O feel like an asshole. Oh well.
 
2022-07-06 7:18:36 PM  

Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: I guess?  According to the timeline the kid aged normally up until part 5

There was very little time between 2 and 3., maybe a year. And zero time between 3 and 4 they were literally hours within each other. And also zero space between 4 and 5.

devilskware: His real son, the one in Rocky V, actually is dead.

Well now O feel like an asshole. Oh well.


Can't remember how they show the time jump between 3 and 4, but 3 starts out with a montage of all of Rocky's fights after he beat Apollo in 2. There's definitely a passage of years.
 
2022-07-06 7:37:05 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Can't remember how they show the time jump between 3 and 4, but 3 starts out with a montage of all of Rocky's fights after he beat Apollo in 2. There's definitely a passage of years.


At the end of 3, it freeze frames on Rocky and Apollo sparring one last time. 4 starts with Rocky coming home after the fight. 4 ends with Rocky still in Russia.
 
2022-07-07 1:32:08 PM  

The_Sponge: And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.


Rocky IV is awful.  I used to love it and watched it a year or two ago and was shocked at how bad it is.  The director's cut is much, much better.
 
2022-07-07 4:32:31 PM  

mjbok: The_Sponge: And think about it...even the three following sequels were fantastic.

Rocky IV is awful.  I used to love it and watched it a year or two ago and was shocked at how bad it is.  The director's cut is much, much better.


Well damn....I need to watch the director's cut.
 
2022-07-07 5:00:04 PM  

mjbok: The director's cut is much, much better.


What's the difference in the director's cut? Does he lose?
 
2022-07-07 5:11:29 PM  

Mugato: What's the difference in the director's cut? Does he lose?


They cut out Paulie's robot.
 
2022-07-07 8:05:18 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Mugato: What's the difference in the director's cut? Does he lose?

They cut out Paulie's robot.


Oddly enough the movie is almost exactly the same length, but it is drastically different.
 
2022-07-07 8:29:32 PM  

mjbok: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Mugato: What's the difference in the director's cut? Does he lose?

They cut out Paulie's robot.

Oddly enough the movie is almost exactly the same length, but it is drastically different.


Is it?  I remember reading about the robot bit and some of the scenes added back in, basically giving a little more dynamic to the Apollo/Rocky relationship. But by and large the plot was exactly the same, which means it's still completely ridiculous. But maybe I'll give it a shot at some point. However, I think the original cut is hilariously great.
 
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