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2022-07-06 9:42:03 AM  
"It's a statement about the value of women. It's a statement about the value of a black person. It's a statement about the value of a gay person. All of those things. We know it, and so that's what hurts a little more."

Does she think LeBron's white?  Also, he's probably smart enough that he wouldn't go hang out in Russia while a war is going on and carrying contraband.

Of course the US should work to get her released, but this is like when idiot tourists go wandering around the wrong borders and get picked up. This is entirely self-inflicted dumbassery at work.
 
2022-07-06 9:46:22 AM  
What exactly can Biden do?
 
2022-07-06 9:48:17 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?


The same thing he always does: nothing at all.
 
2022-07-06 9:55:19 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?


I'm sure the State Dept is working on it behind the scenes. These things are usually not hashed out in the open. Also, Russia isn't exactly a rational player these days. So I can only imagine the Ukraine-related demands they're making as conditions for her release.
 
2022-07-06 10:04:04 AM  
Y'all need to get something straight.

Well, maybe not y'all, but it needs to become known,,,

BIDEN IS NOT THE LEADER OF A CULT. Quit trying to make it so.
 
2022-07-06 10:07:09 AM  
I'm not one to come in and say sh*t about a woman who is distraught at the plight of her loved one. A situation that might cost her her life.

I'd probably be doing/saying the same kind of stuff.

I just hope things work out for them. It's a sh*t situation.
 
2022-07-06 10:07:27 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.


Oh hey, it's one of those Bros who thinks Biden should be attacking Russia directly because their nuclear weapons may not work
 
2022-07-06 10:10:36 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.


Russia is probably looking to trade her for a bunch of Russian spies and terrorists the US is holding.

You can picture why the US might be hesitant to trade a basketball player for the release of those kinds of people.

/Russia is probably also asking some absurd price because they don't give a Fark
 
2022-07-06 10:13:44 AM  
He could pardon all persons of THC crimes in the US for a start. You know....regular folks who aren't athletes.
 
2022-07-06 10:14:51 AM  
"As I sit here in a Russian prison, alone with my thoughts and without the protection of my wife, family, friends, Olympic jersey, or any accomplishments, I'm terrified I might be here forever," Griner wrote.

WTF is she talking about? Those accomplishments and Olympic jersey are putting her in the news and keeping pressure on to get her release. She totally has that protection. The same accomplishments and Olympic jersey that got her there in the first place, of course. Double edged sword on the whole accomplishments and Olympic jersey thing.

She is collateral damage in a shadow war, kinda like all those blown up people unfortunate enough to live on the warpath - except alive. Her release will could come soon enough for her, but it will come sooner or later.
 
2022-07-06 10:16:23 AM  
I don't know about that. No matter who they have hostage it would all be the same.
 
2022-07-06 10:16:24 AM  

NeoCortex42: "It's a statement about the value of women. It's a statement about the value of a black person. It's a statement about the value of a gay person. All of those things. We know it, and so that's what hurts a little more."

Does she think LeBron's white?  Also, he's probably smart enough that he wouldn't go hang out in Russia while a war is going on and carrying contraband.

Of course the US should work to get her released, but this is like when idiot tourists go wandering around the wrong borders and get picked up. This is entirely self-inflicted dumbassery at work.


The more $ you make, the whiter you are in the eyes of society. Just ask Michael Jackson and Sammy Sosa.
 
2022-07-06 10:18:16 AM  

iron_city_ap: NeoCortex42: "It's a statement about the value of women. It's a statement about the value of a black person. It's a statement about the value of a gay person. All of those things. We know it, and so that's what hurts a little more."

Does she think LeBron's white?  Also, he's probably smart enough that he wouldn't go hang out in Russia while a war is going on and carrying contraband.

Of course the US should work to get her released, but this is like when idiot tourists go wandering around the wrong borders and get picked up. This is entirely self-inflicted dumbassery at work.

The more $ you make, the whiter you are in the eyes of society. Just ask Michael Jackson and Sammy Sosa.


Sammy Sosa?
<notsureifserious.gif>
 
2022-07-06 10:19:37 AM  
Why would LeBron be in Russia, you dumbass?
 
2022-07-06 10:20:28 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.


However Bernie would swoop in like Superman and save the day.
 
2022-07-06 10:30:24 AM  
well, this thread never had a chance.. I'll just run down the hits:

-she was playing in Russia because she's been on that team for years and makes considerably more there than she does in the WNBA
-I wouldn't put it past Russia to have planted the vape (though as I understand it she has yet to deny having it)
-even if it WAS hers, I very much doubt this was a random search. She was deliberately targeted to be used as a bargaining chip
-who Russia wants in exchange is Viktor Bout
 
2022-07-06 10:32:07 AM  

snocone: Y'all need to get something straight.

Well, maybe not y'all, but it needs to become known,,,

BIDEN IS NOT THE LEADER OF A CULT. Quit trying to make it so.


Stupid people don't understand how anything works with the government.
 
2022-07-06 10:36:01 AM  

The Bestest: -she was playing in Russia because she's been on that team for years and makes considerably more there than she does in the WNBA


Turns out higher money came with higher risks.  Like if someone offered me a decent salary to take a gig in Iran or North Korea, I'd consider turning it down no matter how much the offered.  Going to Russia while they're engaged in an active war is a boneheaded move.
 
2022-07-06 10:36:28 AM  

Rip_Rufus: iron_city_ap: NeoCortex42: "It's a statement about the value of women. It's a statement about the value of a black person. It's a statement about the value of a gay person. All of those things. We know it, and so that's what hurts a little more."

Does she think LeBron's white?  Also, he's probably smart enough that he wouldn't go hang out in Russia while a war is going on and carrying contraband.

Of course the US should work to get her released, but this is like when idiot tourists go wandering around the wrong borders and get picked up. This is entirely self-inflicted dumbassery at work.

The more $ you make, the whiter you are in the eyes of society. Just ask Michael Jackson and Sammy Sosa.

Sammy Sosa?
<notsureifserious.gif>


Sosa earned more than enough to afford to let his inner honky frolic in the uncanny valley...

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2022-07-06 10:37:32 AM  

alechemist: snocone: Y'all need to get something straight.

Well, maybe not y'all, but it needs to become known,,,

BIDEN IS NOT THE LEADER OF A CULT. Quit trying to make it so.

Stupid people don't understand how anything works with the government.


What are you saying, that Biden doesn't have a gas price switch he can flick on and off in the oval office?   You sir obviously don't know how the Flat Illuminati Lizard Wizards work.
 
2022-07-06 10:38:51 AM  

TheFoz: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

Russia is probably looking to trade her for a bunch of Russian spies and terrorists the US is holding.

You can picture why the US might be hesitant to trade a basketball player for the release of those kinds of people.

/Russia is probably also asking some absurd price because they don't give a Fark


The rumor is Russia wants to trade her for an arms dealer named Viktor Bout.

If the trade happens, I hope it shows up on her basketball-reference transaction page.
 
2022-07-06 10:40:29 AM  

ElFugawz: Her release will could not come soon enough for her, but it will come sooner or later.


damn, fixed that for me
 
2022-07-06 10:42:46 AM  

NeoCortex42: The Bestest: -she was playing in Russia because she's been on that team for years and makes considerably more there than she does in the WNBA

Turns out higher money came with higher risks.  Like if someone offered me a decent salary to take a gig in Iran or North Korea, I'd consider turning it down no matter how much the offered.  Going to Russia while they're engaged in an active war is a boneheaded move.


So says your perfect hindsight. On the other hand:
Clerks - Death Star Contractors
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2022-07-06 10:46:06 AM  
If?

Newsflash - LeBron is not in Russia.   Pick some other athlete who is in Russia for comparison.
 
2022-07-06 10:47:23 AM  
FTFA: "If it was LeBron, he'd be home, right?" Nygaard said, according to Casey L. Moor of USA TODAY. "It's a statement about the value of women. It's a statement about the value of a black person. It's a statement about the value of a gay person. All of those things. We know it, and so that's what hurts a little more."

That is a lot of cards to play and as if often the fashion, they're played dishonestly by people who know they're wrong but think that saying them means adults wouldn't dare play counters.

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985 days before being released, for a straight (assumedly) white male who was held by Russia long before Brittney Griner was.

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1,286 days and still held by the Russians for a straight (assumedly) white male, a guest of Russia long prior to Griner.

Griner's lawyer can fark off with her victimization and pity party throwing.
 
2022-07-06 10:53:11 AM  
Pack your bags, we're going on the guilt trip.
 
2022-07-06 10:58:17 AM  
She previously compared the attention surrounding Griner's case with that of the disappearance and killing of Gabby Petito, who went missing while hiking in Wyoming and was later found to have been killed by her boyfriend.
"That white woman that was hiking, and we did everything to find her," Nygaard said.


Since we're busy chasing down completely inapplicable analogies, how come the whole community rallied around Ferris Bueller, but won't rally around Brittany?  How come we don't have "Free Brittany" written on every water tower in the Chicago metro area, huh?   Obviously, a real-life black celebrity athlete is treated worse than a fictional white high school student.
 
2022-07-06 11:02:37 AM  
Pray for Omarion.
 
2022-07-06 11:06:03 AM  

TDWCom29: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

Oh hey, it's one of those Bros who thinks Biden should be attacking Russia directly because their nuclear weapons may not work


And if they do launch, instead of the MIRVs hitting around Pittsburgh, they'd end up hitting around Penfield.  Sure the amount of human casualties would be far lower, but elk just got vaporized.
 
2022-07-06 11:11:47 AM  

bluorangefyre: TDWCom29: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

Oh hey, it's one of those Bros who thinks Biden should be attacking Russia directly because their nuclear weapons may not work

And if they do launch, instead of the MIRVs hitting around Pittsburgh, they'd end up hitting around Penfield.  Sure the amount of human casualties would be far lower, but elk just got vaporized.


Vlad destroying hunting season might change some PA Repubilcans' minds.
 
2022-07-06 11:12:23 AM  

Jake Havechek: Feckless Jacobin Underpants Gnome, Eeyores FUD Projector: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

However Bernie would swoop in like Superman and save the day.


Things Feckless Jacobin Underpants Gnomes™ ACTUALLY believe.
 
2022-07-06 11:40:13 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.


(Remember, folks, this is coming from the guy who said Biden was as bad as Trump, so calibrate your expectations accordingly.)
 
2022-07-06 12:00:04 PM  
"As I sit here in a Russian prison, alone with my thoughts and without the protection of my wife, family, friends, Olympic jersey, or any accomplishments, I'm terrified I might be here forever," Griner wrote.

Is it possible you wouldn't be there if you didn't try to carry drugs into a country that has harsher punishments than your home country?  And your home country could've put you in prison, too, for trying to bring drugs through customs.

No one is debating the facts, just the outcome.  Don't buddy up to Russia
 
2022-07-06 12:10:11 PM  

sorceror: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

(Remember, folks, this is coming from the guy who said Biden was as bad as Trump, so calibrate your expectations accordingly.)


And from a long line of (alleged) lefties who don't seem to know how the government works
 
2022-07-06 12:10:25 PM  
I feel bad for BG, but they shouldn't kid themselves about this. If it was LeBron, Russia would absolutely hold out for a trade with Viktor Bout. As it is, they will settle for a lot less. Yes, she is a pawn, and the US will end up making a Herschel Walker trade to get her back, but they aren't going to get their arms dealer in exchange.
 
2022-07-06 12:19:56 PM  
If you go to a foreign country learn their laws, respect their laws and follow their laws.
I don't think Russia really cares that she is black.  They care because she is American.
I blows me away every time some American gets caught breaking the law in a foreign country with horrible human rights history and think their American rights will apply and be able to save them and then expecting their government to waste time, money and effort to save their sorry asses.
 
2022-07-06 12:32:48 PM  

snocone: Y'all need to get something straight.

Well, maybe not y'all, but it needs to become known,,,

BIDEN IS NOT THE LEADER OF A CULT. Quit trying to make it so.


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2022-07-06 12:35:30 PM  

TDWCom29: sorceror: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

(Remember, folks, this is coming from the guy who said Biden was as bad as Trump, so calibrate your expectations accordingly.)

And from a long line of (alleged) lefties who don't seem to know how the government works


EyeballKid: snocone: Y'all need to get something straight.

Well, maybe not y'all, but it needs to become known,,,

BIDEN IS NOT THE LEADER OF A CULT. Quit trying to make it so.

[Fark user image 425x386]


And another one chimes in!
 
2022-07-06 1:43:40 PM  

peachpicker: Rip_Rufus: iron_city_ap: NeoCortex42: "It's a statement about the value of women. It's a statement about the value of a black person. It's a statement about the value of a gay person. All of those things. We know it, and so that's what hurts a little more."

Does she think LeBron's white?  Also, he's probably smart enough that he wouldn't go hang out in Russia while a war is going on and carrying contraband.

Of course the US should work to get her released, but this is like when idiot tourists go wandering around the wrong borders and get picked up. This is entirely self-inflicted dumbassery at work.

The more $ you make, the whiter you are in the eyes of society. Just ask Michael Jackson and Sammy Sosa.

Sammy Sosa?
<notsureifserious.gif>

Sosa earned more than enough to afford to let his inner honky frolic in the uncanny valley...

[Fark user image image 425x239]


This guy gets it.
 
2022-07-06 2:11:10 PM  
lebron has so much world fame, money, and wealth this is a completely ridiculous comparison.  russia would be screaming about LOOK, HE'S HERE!!!  EVEN LABRRONY LOVES THE RUSSIA!!!

the wnba is, like it or not, nothing that people in general care about.  If the league was playing today 99% of the world wouldn't know.

if this league disappeared tomorrow even fewer people would notice.
 
2022-07-06 2:23:59 PM  

NeoCortex42: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

I'm sure the State Dept is working on it behind the scenes. These things are usually not hashed out in the open. Also, Russia isn't exactly a rational player these days. So I can only imagine the Ukraine-related demands they're making as conditions for her release.


THIS.
 
2022-07-06 2:37:37 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.


If he were friendlier with the Russian fascists, like Jill Stein, he could probably just ask them to release Brittany.
 
2022-07-06 2:42:52 PM  

TDWCom29: sorceror: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

(Remember, folks, this is coming from the guy who said Biden was as bad as Trump, so calibrate your expectations accordingly.)

And from a long line of (alleged) lefties who don't seem to know how the government works


And rarely, if ever, have anything bad to say about Republicans or fascists.
 
2022-07-06 3:01:28 PM  
If it was LeBrom hed be out

Since its Britney Griner folks are hollering.

And if it was you or me only our friends and family would have even heard we we in prison there and itd be years and years and years before we were free
 
2022-07-06 3:02:37 PM  
Subby you are an idiot
 
2022-07-06 3:03:51 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: TDWCom29: sorceror: AdmirableSnackbar: thatguyoverthere70: What exactly can Biden do?

The same thing he always does: nothing at all.

(Remember, folks, this is coming from the guy who said Biden was as bad as Trump, so calibrate your expectations accordingly.)

And from a long line of (alleged) lefties who don't seem to know how the government works

And rarely, if ever, have anything bad to say about Republicans or fascists.


Well no, they do, but only so they can say Democrats are equally as bad
 
2022-07-06 3:35:15 PM  
This is an interesting read and has been updated as of July 5th: Everything We Know About Brittney Griner's Ongoing Detention in Russia
 
2022-07-06 3:49:11 PM  

browneye: This is an interesting read and has been updated as of July 5th: Everything We Know About Brittney Griner's Ongoing Detention in Russia


Facts, schmacts - I'm here for the hearsay and conjecture.
 
2022-07-06 4:29:05 PM  
-she was playing in Russia because she's been on that team for years and makes considerably more there than she does in the WNBA

You claim this like we're supposed to feel bad she chose to go play for the oligarchs and get paid with money stolen from the Russian people? It's no different than Figjam playing golf for the House of Saad.
 
2022-07-06 5:38:40 PM  

drewogatory: -she was playing in Russia because she's been on that team for years and makes considerably more there than she does in the WNBA

You claim this like we're supposed to feel bad she chose to go play for the oligarchs and get paid with money stolen from the Russian people? It's no different than Figjam playing golf for the House of Saad.


No, just heading off the "why was she even there?" questions/comments
 
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