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(Some Guy)   "Marvel Theory Reveals Kevin Feige's Secret Plan to Destroy Morbius Universe"   (thedirect.com) divider line
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2022-07-06 5:32:47 AM  
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2022-07-06 6:28:20 AM  
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2022-07-06 7:23:10 AM  
Keep Venom but find a better writer for the franchise.
 
2022-07-06 7:51:04 AM  
I thought hiring Jared Leto was how they were going to destroy the franchise.
 
2022-07-06 7:56:17 AM  
Or, just ignore it. Seemed to work fine with Blade and the first 2 Hulk movies.

You don't have to go DCU and shoe horn every future failed movie at the end that goes nowhere because WB can't cast actors who 1) are willing to stick through terrible writing and direction 2) or are batshiat insane and will never show up again because of their behavior.

Feck, you could have let the Fantastic 4 just sit there and attempt to bring in Xmen. But they chose to drag them in.

You don't have to do everything. Let Morbin Time pass memely into that good night.
 
2022-07-06 8:30:44 AM  
My biggest problem with the new MCU is the amount of homework required to enjoy it.
Granted the whole Infinity Saga assumes you saw each previous movie, but now with all the Disney + stuff it just feels much more exhausting.
 
2022-07-06 8:52:45 AM  

buntz: My biggest problem with the new MCU is the amount of homework required to enjoy it.
Granted the whole Infinity Saga assumes you saw each previous movie, but now with all the Disney + stuff it just feels much more exhausting.


While I don't find it exhausting at all, I also don't have the time to indulge in my habit of watching MCU movies multiple times as much as I use to due to the fallout from the pandemic. Which Marvel is also dealing with as well.
 
2022-07-06 9:20:16 AM  
In the MCU multiverse, all films are canon. All of them.

Ang Lees Hulk. The1970s Dr Strange TV movie. The Diniverse Dc animated shows. The 1978 Superman. Citizen Kane. Plan 9 from Outer Space. Star Wars. They're all part of the Multiverse.
 
2022-07-06 9:33:16 AM  

buntz: My biggest problem with the new MCU is the amount of homework required to enjoy it.
Granted the whole Infinity Saga assumes you saw each previous movie, but now with all the Disney + stuff it just feels much more exhausting.


The movies/shows with the newer characters (ie Shang Chi, Eternals, Moon Knight, etc) are pretty much stand-alone at this point. You don't have to see anything else in the MCU to really know what's going on in them. Not that I remember at least, I could be forgetting something
 
2022-07-06 9:35:49 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I thought hiring Jared Leto was how they were going to destroy the franchise.


How is subby blaming Feige for this? It's evident Sony goes out of their way, decision after decision to drive their properties into the ground.

Venom was okay, the sequel was worse. Morbius may be worse and more forgettable than Suicide Squad the first.

It's going a long way, but Leto wasn't the worst part of that movie. Fanfics have better story. Fanfics have more compelling characters. And why is Sony trying to make their universe so dark? And then they tried to rerelease it? Insanity.

It's almost like Sony execs are playing a game at who can make the worst decision possible.
 
2022-07-06 9:42:34 AM  
It's all relative.  A sorcerer and a planeswalker traipsing around the multiverse is gonna do more damage to the fabric of reality than Mr. Mom getting stranded. Earth-6672 is probably safe.
 
2022-07-06 9:55:07 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Keep Venom but find a better writer for the franchise.


I wonder if Thor Love and Thunder is going to keep the origin of All-Black The Necrosword and introduce the Symbiotes into the MCU that way.
 
2022-07-06 10:00:47 AM  
Destroy the Morbius universe?
Stab it with a Morbul blade
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2022-07-06 10:11:02 AM  

buntz: My biggest problem with the new MCU is the amount of homework required to enjoy it.
Granted the whole Infinity Saga assumes you saw each previous movie, but now with all the Disney + stuff it just feels much more exhausting.


I feel like if I hadn't watched WandaVision before The Multiverse of Madness I would have been less annoyed by how they undermined all the character growth Wanda had in the series. She did some really farked up stuff to the town, but it seemed like she was feeling remorse and was making peace with the loss and pain in her life. Then she backslides big time and is murdering her way across the Multiverse.

Although to be fair, it kind of lines up with how she has gone off the rails so often in the comics, especially with Avengers Disassembled. It just seemed kind of sudden to have her regress into witches be crazy.
 
2022-07-06 11:34:58 AM  

Metaluna Mutant: In the MCU multiverse, all films are canon. All of them.

Ang Lees Hulk. The1970s Dr Strange TV movie. The Diniverse Dc animated shows. The 1978 Superman. Citizen Kane. Plan 9 from Outer Space. Star Wars. They're all part of the Multiverse.


Star Wars isn't Canon until someone drops the severed head of Chewbacca down on a table
 
2022-07-06 11:47:41 AM  

Mad_Radhu: I wonder if Thor Love and Thunder is going to keep the origin of All-Black The Necrosword and introduce the Symbiotes into the MCU that way.


They kind of already introduced Symbiotes into the MCU in the No Way Home post-credits scene, but it wouldn't be the first time they walked back a post-credits scene.

TDWCom29: The movies/shows with the newer characters (ie Shang Chi, Eternals, Moon Knight, etc) are pretty much stand-alone at this point. You don't have to see anything else in the MCU to really know what's going on in them.


Shang Chi is like the early Marvel films, where the story is mostly self-contained, but it's better if you've seen what came before it. Wong, Abomination, and Ben Kingsley's characters make more sense with context, but not knowing who they are won't overtly muddle the plot.

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I get that Sony wants to build the Spider-Verse, and the animated movie was great, but people aren't gonna care too much unless it connects to the MCU, which means Feige needs to be on board. Venom, Venom 2, and Morbius were not great, and all tended to go darker than your average MCU flick. Which isn't bad, but it also wasn't great. The MCU also just literally handed the multiverse to Sony on a silver platter, just create a concurrent Spider-Man. Get weird, use Ben Reilly, so something other than what we've already seen a bunch.

(But save Miles for the MCU, it'll be better for everyone).
 
2022-07-06 11:51:22 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Mad_Radhu: I wonder if Thor Love and Thunder is going to keep the origin of All-Black The Necrosword and introduce the Symbiotes into the MCU that way.

They kind of already introduced Symbiotes into the MCU in the No Way Home post-credits scene, but it wouldn't be the first time they walked back a post-credits scene.

TDWCom29: The movies/shows with the newer characters (ie Shang Chi, Eternals, Moon Knight, etc) are pretty much stand-alone at this point. You don't have to see anything else in the MCU to really know what's going on in them.

Shang Chi is like the early Marvel films, where the story is mostly self-contained, but it's better if you've seen what came before it. Wong, Abomination, and Ben Kingsley's characters make more sense with context, but not knowing who they are won't overtly muddle the plot.

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I get that Sony wants to build the Spider-Verse, and the animated movie was great, but people aren't gonna care too much unless it connects to the MCU, which means Feige needs to be on board. Venom, Venom 2, and Morbius were not great, and all tended to go darker than your average MCU flick. Which isn't bad, but it also wasn't great. The MCU also just literally handed the multiverse to Sony on a silver platter, just create a concurrent Spider-Man. Get weird, use Ben Reilly, so something other than what we've already seen a bunch.

(But save Miles for the MCU, it'll be better for everyone).


What post-credits sequence was walked back?  Are you thinking Guardians of the Galaxy 2?  I just assumed they put that off and we'll see it again later.
 
2022-07-06 11:54:19 AM  

Quantumbunny: Tyrone Slothrop: I thought hiring Jared Leto was how they were going to destroy the franchise.

How is subby blaming Feige for this? It's evident Sony goes out of their way, decision after decision to drive their properties into the ground.

Venom was okay, the sequel was worse. Morbius may be worse and more forgettable than Suicide Squad the first.

It's going a long way, but Leto wasn't the worst part of that movie. Fanfics have better story. Fanfics have more compelling characters. And why is Sony trying to make their universe so dark? And then they tried to rerelease it? Insanity.

It's almost like Sony execs are playing a game at who can make the worst decision possible.


Kinda makes you wonder if they're exchanging emails with execs at Warner Bros.
 
2022-07-06 12:04:41 PM  

Glorious Golden Ass: What post-credits sequence was walked back?  Are you thinking Guardians of the Galaxy 2?  I just assumed they put that off and we'll see it again later.


I was wondering the same thing.

Maybe the shawarma scene was decanonized?
 
2022-07-06 12:14:56 PM  
Glorious Golden Ass:

What post-credits sequence was walked back?  Are you thinking Guardians of the Galaxy 2?  I just assumed they put that off and we'll see it again later.

I guess none of them were technically walked back. I feel like a few of them are still really open ended though that will more than likely lead nowhere.

Doctor Strange: Karl Mordo prepping his revenge scheme. Open-ended still, but based off the DS2 post-credits, it seems less likely that's the direction they're heading.

Spider-Man one: The same story but with Gargan.
 
2022-07-06 12:41:30 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: TDWCom29: The movies/shows with the newer characters (ie Shang Chi, Eternals, Moon Knight, etc) are pretty much stand-alone at this point. You don't have to see anything else in the MCU to really know what's going on in them.

Shang Chi is like the early Marvel films, where the story is mostly self-contained, but it's better if you've seen what came before it. Wong, Abomination, and Ben Kingsley's characters make more sense with context, but not knowing who they are won't overtly muddle the plot.


Yeah I did kind of forget about the whole Ben Kingsley thing
 
2022-07-06 12:53:55 PM  
Not to be that guy, but does anybody else just not care anymore?  They shot their wad with Thanos, now everything else just doesn't compare.  Every plot is exactly the same.  The main guy deals with family/girlfriend problems, there's a giant threat to all of reality that nobody can stop, there's a fight, the main guy is going to die, then a thing happens, then the threat is stopped.  For now.

I would like to see a street-level Marvel movie with Spider-Man or the Defenders or somebody.  If there's a world-ending threat every four months, then what's the point of anything?
 
2022-07-06 1:21:27 PM  

Joe Stapler: Not to be that guy, but does anybody else just not care anymore?  They shot their wad with Thanos, now everything else just doesn't compare.  Every plot is exactly the same.  The main guy deals with family/girlfriend problems, there's a giant threat to all of reality that nobody can stop, there's a fight, the main guy is going to die, then a thing happens, then the threat is stopped.  For now.

I would like to see a street-level Marvel movie with Spider-Man or the Defenders or somebody.  If there's a world-ending threat every four months, then what's the point of anything?


The Hawk Guy D+ series was pretty good, not-world-ending-stakes, though yes, the characters have families and relationships, they always will.
 
2022-07-06 2:00:18 PM  
Love and Thunder will destroy all the universes by itself. Turrible, just turrible.
 
2022-07-06 3:01:17 PM  

browneye: Quantumbunny: Tyrone Slothrop: I thought hiring Jared Leto was how they were going to destroy the franchise.

How is subby blaming Feige for this? It's evident Sony goes out of their way, decision after decision to drive their properties into the ground.

Venom was okay, the sequel was worse. Morbius may be worse and more forgettable than Suicide Squad the first.

It's going a long way, but Leto wasn't the worst part of that movie. Fanfics have better story. Fanfics have more compelling characters. And why is Sony trying to make their universe so dark? And then they tried to rerelease it? Insanity.

It's almost like Sony execs are playing a game at who can make the worst decision possible.

Kinda makes you wonder if they're exchanging emails with execs at Warner Bros.


If they were both in the game... That would explain a lot about both franchises, tbh.
 
2022-07-06 3:39:21 PM  

Joe Stapler: They shot their wad with Thanos, now everything else just doesn't compare.  Every plot is exactly the same.  The main guy deals with family/girlfriend problems, there's a giant threat to all of reality that nobody can stop, there's a fight, the main guy is going to die, then a thing happens, then the threat is stopped.  For now


To some degree, that's just the formula for Marvel Comics, and it has been since the 60s. There are important distinctions, like Spidey being broke all the time or Mutants having to deal with the same sorts of hate criming dipshiats that we today call Trump voters, and in general you ALWAYS want to have the option to bring back your best villains. Those are just the tropes that make up most comics.

I don't think that means we're going to see Yellowjacket or Iron Monger again, but Vulture and Batroc are examples of awesome recurring bad guys, and if Doom doesn't develop a following as rabid as Loki's, Marvel will have missed its mark.

Marvel does a great job building their movies on the tropes of other genres though, and that's something that's worked REALLY well, and one of the things that makes me excited about future projects, especially for the more diverse takes like Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk. Do I want to see Marvel's take on Single Female Lawyer Comedy or hardcore Vampire Slayers? Of course I do. If you're not down for that, maybe just say you saw the end you needed to see and move on.
 
2022-07-06 5:52:36 PM  

Joe Stapler: Not to be that guy, but does anybody else just not care anymore?  They shot their wad with Thanos, now everything else just doesn't compare.  Every plot is exactly the same.  The main guy deals with family/girlfriend problems, there's a giant threat to all of reality that nobody can stop, there's a fight, the main guy is going to die, then a thing happens, then the threat is stopped.  For now.

I would like to see a street-level Marvel movie with Spider-Man or the Defenders or somebody.  If there's a world-ending threat every four months, then what's the point of anything?



I keep seeing this sort of declaration. Yes, I care. I'm a Marvel fan. I'm enjoying the world-building they're doing in this stage of Phase 4. And that's what it is: World building. We're at the Iron Man 1/Captain America 1/Thor 1/Incredible Hulk stage of the previous build-up. They're seeding in the characters who will make up the world and big stories later, while having the big characters from the previous build-up hold the line and develop a bit more.

So far this phase we've seen:

* Wanda finally reach the end of her villain arc which started in Age of Ultron.
* Spider-Man reaching the point where he's low-key and more anonymous, with no support.
* Ms. Marvel coming into her powers.
* Shang-Chi beginning his journey and gaining his powers.
* Some deep history of the universe in Eternals, which set up Starfox and Pip as future side-characters, and made the existence of Celestials more understandable and present.
* Hawkeye's passing of the baton to the new Hawkeye.
* Yelena picking up Natasha's mantle and making peace with Clint.
* Some of the early glimpses of what will surely become the Thunderbolts, including USAgent.
* A new Captain America taking on the mantle.
* The concept of the multiverse, and actual examples of how it will affect things going forward.
* The introduction of Kang, who will become more of a threat as the phases go on.
* A Loki alternate meeting other Loki alternates and coming to understand his place in the multiverse a little better.

And we still have She-Hulk coming, and whatever happens in Love & Thunder, and so much more. And I'm excited to see where it all goes.

If you're bored, then tap out. Go on. Nobody's stopping you. But these constant attempts from people to try to convince MCU fans that they're wrong to keep enjoying it are just wearing thin. Fine. You aren't in it for the long haul. That's great. Nobody's making you watch Love & Thunder tomorrow. Nobody's forcing you to keep up with Quantumania or watch Ms. Marvel or She-Hulk. But I'll be there tomorrow at the first show, because I enjoy this series and love seeing the build-up happening again for the next generation of heroes.

Go watch Avatar 2: Bluelectric Bluegaloo if you're not into this. Maybe  there's another FAST AND FURIOUS movie coming. I dunno. But I love the MCU, and even with the occasional stumble (Eternals could have been better) I'm enjoying the hell out of it.
 
2022-07-06 5:55:33 PM  

likefunbutnot: I don't think that means we're going to see Yellowjacket or Iron Monger again


Well, I mean, we kinda did see Yellowjacket in What If..? but it was Hank. And he kinda kicked nearly everyone's ass.
 
2022-07-06 7:27:18 PM  
Won't it just destroy itself like the Universal Monsters universe?
 
2022-07-06 8:16:19 PM  
Writer shows a firm grasp on how movie studios work.
 
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