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2022-07-05 9:17:43 PM  
Gotta keep the for profit prison system is business.
 
2022-07-05 9:21:25 PM  
I have been assured that creepy families will adopt.
 
2022-07-05 9:39:15 PM  
Now a study on Reactive attachment disorder in children can be conducted in the Southern US with state child care systems that are already close to broken being given additional children without any additional staff or funding. Before the Roberts court said fark personal privacy and rights a person would have to travel to a third world orphanage to study the disorder.
 
2022-07-05 10:02:19 PM  

enry: I have been assured that creepy families will adopt.


The foster family down the street always has a passel of kids and always has right wing political signs up. The other day I saw a 2 yr old on the big trampoline with no adult in sight, bouncing happy as a clam right next to a Darren Bailey for Governor sign.

Before that, it was the GOP guy who wanted to be prosecutor despite his felony conviction. After the primary he got arrested for stalking his recent ex wife. The local non-denominational church has propped him up ad a big success story and he fizzles spectacularly yet somehow those Gos botherers are not ser back at all because the Common Clay is...so very, very common.
 
2022-07-05 10:07:28 PM  

eurotrader: Now a study on Reactive attachment disorder in children can be conducted in the Southern US with state child care systems that are already close to broken being given additional children without any additional staff or funding. Before the Roberts court said fark personal privacy and rights a person would have to travel to a third world orphanage to study the disorder.


Due to a narcissistic ex, I have experience in raising a kid with reactive attachment disorder. The more I have learned through her DBT and my own counseling on the subject has left me to understand modern America so much deeper than I could before.

America's whole history is damaged people raising damaged people and calling it good. Trauma affects us all and our society produces traumatized people every day as a necessary function. Trauma is at the heart of all human experience, either by its presence or its absence.

I asked my counselor how she faces this horror every day and she got very very serious and said 'Get very seriously into Biddhism." I haven't taken the advice (I prefer whisky and weed despite the lower effects) but I remember it every day for her somber tone. I know she tried to save my soul that day but the rest is up to me.
 
2022-07-05 10:36:57 PM  
Again. Not pro-life, it's pro-birth. After that baby slips out of the birth canal it's on its own. YOU GET NOTHING!
 
2022-07-05 11:16:00 PM  
I bet Gaetz has his shopping cart ready to go
 
2022-07-06 12:26:13 AM  

TelemonianAjax: eurotrader: Now a study on Reactive attachment disorder in children can be conducted in the Southern US with state child care systems that are already close to broken being given additional children without any additional staff or funding. Before the Roberts court said fark personal privacy and rights a person would have to travel to a third world orphanage to study the disorder.

Due to a narcissistic ex, I have experience in raising a kid with reactive attachment disorder. The more I have learned through her DBT and my own counseling on the subject has left me to understand modern America so much deeper than I could before.

America's whole history is damaged people raising damaged people and calling it good. Trauma affects us all and our society produces traumatized people every day as a necessary function. Trauma is at the heart of all human experience, either by its presence or its absence.

I asked my counselor how she faces this horror every day and she got very very serious and said 'Get very seriously into Biddhism." I haven't taken the advice (I prefer whisky and weed despite the lower effects) but I remember it every day for her somber tone. I know she tried to save my soul that day but the rest is up to me.


If you are doing DBT you are already doing a number of mindfulness exercises. Find a few more mindfulness practices that work for you and the Buddhism isn't necessary. Weed and whiskey as an adjunct doesn't hurt in reasonable moderation.

/Really like the DBT method for trauma.
 
2022-07-06 5:08:20 AM  
The good news, is that mothers will still be able to sell their babies to religious folks who as barren as the Syrian Desert.
 
2022-07-06 5:34:13 AM  
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2022-07-06 5:57:47 AM  
Foster care system.

Psssssssh

NICU shortages for the mother farking win.


Dumb fark anti choice asshats didn't think past step 1.
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2022-07-06 5:59:43 AM  

hubiestubert: The good news, is that mothers will still be able to sell their babies to religious folks who as barren as the Syrian Desert.


If only they'd apply their usual attempt at logic and realize it's "God's PLAN" that they not inflict their mental disabilities on the next generation.
 
2022-07-06 5:59:54 AM  
Foster care systems in the US were farked long before Roe was overruled, but the system is about to become even more of a shiat show.
 
2022-07-06 5:59:59 AM  
Anti choice voters are literally the dumbest pieces of shiat on this planet and they deserve to be relegated to slave labor for the betterment of society.
 
2022-07-06 6:01:20 AM  

aleister_greynight: Gotta keep the for profit prison system is business.


And we can't be super obvious and just roll back the 19th amendment:  But we can sure make a farkton of new felons who don't have the right to vote thanks to their uterus.
 
2022-07-06 6:02:10 AM  

mistahtom: Foster care system.

Psssssssh

NICU shortages for the mother farking win.


Dumb fark anti choice asshats didn't think past step 1.[Fark user image 425x376][Fark user image 425x240]


Infant mortality rates to skyrocket.

Well, until the states responsible stop reporting those numbers. Because reasons.
 
2022-07-06 6:03:42 AM  
Our education system is going to be in for it as well. Why do Republicans want to raise our taxes?
 
2022-07-06 6:04:40 AM  
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2022-07-06 6:06:37 AM  
Nothing will change until all the POS republicans are voted out of office.
 
2022-07-06 6:07:28 AM  
Republicans are less than subhuman garbage. Anytime they can hurt someone weaker than themselves, they hurt. You cannot convince me that a Republican does not deserve a long painful death - and how could you?  They gleefully fark over anybody other than themselves because they think they can.

Absolute subhuman trash.
 
2022-07-06 6:08:27 AM  
Adrenochrome futures are going to be in the toilet.

Sell, Hillary, sell!
 
2022-07-06 6:08:59 AM  

Archie Goodwin: mistahtom: Foster care system.

Psssssssh

NICU shortages for the mother farking win.


Dumb fark anti choice asshats didn't think past step 1.[Fark user image 425x376][Fark user image 425x240]

Infant mortality rates to skyrocket.

Well, until the states responsible stop reporting those numbers. Because reasons.


For the longest time people warned me that this was about punishing women for having sex.

I didn't want to believe it.  I though "nah, they're doing it for some crazy economic pyramid scheme."  I kept thinking there were other nefarious reasons for folks taking this position.

But then reasoning through it all, the logic fails, TREMENDOUSLY.   Unless this is some attempt at population control, it is 💯 about controlling everyone through forcing women into situations they shouldn't be forced into.

The shiat hasn't fully roosted yet and punishing women is the only conclusion I can reasonable come to at this point.   🤦‍♂
 
2022-07-06 6:11:57 AM  
My initial reaction is that all evangelicals should have a foster kid. But then again, haven't those kids been through enough already? Why force them to get brainwashed?
 
2022-07-06 6:12:23 AM  
My social media feed the last 48 hours

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I have stupid friends....
 
2022-07-06 6:14:06 AM  

Archie Goodwin: mistahtom: Foster care system.

Psssssssh

NICU shortages for the mother farking win.


Dumb fark anti choice asshats didn't think past step 1.[Fark user image 425x376][Fark user image 425x240]

Infant mortality rates to skyrocket.

Well, until the states responsible stop reporting those numbers. Because reasons.


Not having anyone in the state who can count that high is a fairly good reason.

/Not even unclebrother Leon,
//He can count up to thirteen,
///On his fingers.
 
2022-07-06 6:14:24 AM  
Don't worry, the Power of the Free Market will step in with some Small-Businesshero-Friendly updates to the labor laws so those kids can learn a trade to last them a lifetime in the fast-moving world of Amazon Warehousery.
 
2022-07-06 6:14:56 AM  
It's not like the foster care system isn't a bit of a mess already.
 
2022-07-06 6:16:36 AM  

enry: I have been assured that creepy families will adopt.


Free labor for your homestead, and you don't really need to take care of them. CPS doesn't hold foster families to the same standards as actual families.
 
2022-07-06 6:25:48 AM  

mistahtom: For the longest time people warned me that this was about punishing women for having sex.

I didn't want to believe it.  I though "nah, they're doing it for some crazy economic pyramid scheme."  I kept thinking there were other nefarious reasons for folks taking this position.

But then reasoning through it all, the logic fails, TREMENDOUSLY.   Unless this is some attempt at population control, it is 💯 about controlling everyone through forcing women into situations they shouldn't be forced into.

The shiat hasn't fully roosted yet and punishing women is the only conclusion I can reasonable come to at this point.   🤦‍♂


Not saying you're wrong, but my take on it is that punishing women is a happy side-effect for the GQP and the real agenda is, as you call it, crazy economic pyramid scheme or I call it "the new slavery".

Admittedly some of the fascists are talking about banning women from travelling interstate for abortions but most aren't, they're just banning abortion in their states. The flow-on effect is that women of means (women of colour statisttically under-represented in this category) can travel for abortions in blue states while poor women, possibly already caring for kids at home (women of colour statistically over-represented in this category), can't.

Crime fell unexpectedly in the US in the early 90's, having risen steadily through the 70's and 80's. It's no coincidence it started falling 18 years after Roe v Wade, it started falling in states which had abortion rights before Roe a few years earlier. After Roe, poor families found it easier to limit themselves to the number of kids they could afford to clothe, feed and educate.

When abortion is gone, the increased poverty will create a new generation of poor kids with fewer educational opportunities and resources and more likely to commit crime. The cops can lock up the ones they can convict (or extract plea deals from) and the private prisons will be full, pumping out economic output. It's no coincidence that the anti-abortion states are pretty much the old pro-slavery states. Meanwhile crime will be rampant in poor suburbs and this will serve as a form of population control (there have to be victims of crime to lock up perpetrators) and also the high rate of felony convictions will mean that even if the population demographics skew to increase the Black population it won't impact voting if felons can't vote.

Mothers die while utilising illegal backyard abortion services? That only makes their kids more likely to become delinquents, perfect for the facists.

So yeah this is definitely horrific for women, you're certainly correct about that, but the whole picture is much worse again.
 
2022-07-06 6:26:23 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Don't worry, the Power of the Free Market will step in with some Small-Businesshero-Friendly updates to the labor laws so those kids can learn a trade to last them a lifetime in the fast-moving world of Amazon Warehousery.


Lifetime*


*(25-45 years)
 
2022-07-06 6:31:37 AM  

Aussie_As: mistahtom: For the longest time people warned me that this was about punishing women for having sex.

I didn't want to believe it.  I though "nah, they're doing it for some crazy economic pyramid scheme."  I kept thinking there were other nefarious reasons for folks taking this position.

But then reasoning through it all, the logic fails, TREMENDOUSLY.   Unless this is some attempt at population control, it is 💯 about controlling everyone through forcing women into situations they shouldn't be forced into.

The shiat hasn't fully roosted yet and punishing women is the only conclusion I can reasonable come to at this point.   🤦‍♂

Not saying you're wrong, but my take on it is that punishing women is a happy side-effect for the GQP and the real agenda is, as you call it, crazy economic pyramid scheme or I call it "the new slavery".

Admittedly some of the fascists are talking about banning women from travelling interstate for abortions but most aren't, they're just banning abortion in their states. The flow-on effect is that women of means (women of colour statisttically under-represented in this category) can travel for abortions in blue states while poor women, possibly already caring for kids at home (women of colour statistically over-represented in this category), can't.

Crime fell unexpectedly in the US in the early 90's, having risen steadily through the 70's and 80's. It's no coincidence it started falling 18 years after Roe v Wade, it started falling in states which had abortion rights before Roe a few years earlier. After Roe, poor families found it easier to limit themselves to the number of kids they could afford to clothe, feed and educate.

When abortion is gone, the increased poverty will create a new generation of poor kids with fewer educational opportunities and resources and more likely to commit crime. The cops can lock up the ones they can convict (or extract plea deals from) and the private prisons will be full, pumping out economic output. It's no coincidence that the anti-abortion states are pretty much the old pro-slavery states. Meanwhile crime will be rampant in poor suburbs and this will serve as a form of population control (there have to be victims of crime to lock up perpetrators) and also the high rate of felony convictions will mean that even if the population demographics skew to increase the Black population it won't impact voting if felons can't vote.

Mothers die while utilising illegal backyard abortion services? That only makes their kids more likely to become delinquents, perfect for the facists.

So yeah this is definitely horrific for women, you're certainly correct about that, but the whole picture is much worse again.


Oh, everything you said is the reality and there is no arguing that.  The fascism aspect of this has untold magnitudes of problems that adding more people to the population cannot and will not solve (population control through rigorous education is the only answer IMO but that's a pipe dream)

I was trying to fathom what was going through  the "pro-life" evangelical asshats heads (apparently nothing) and punishing women for having sex has to be the only modus operandi they coalesced around.
 
2022-07-06 6:37:18 AM  
It's not child trafficking when big institutions like the government and the church do it.
 
2022-07-06 6:38:14 AM  
Came in expecting to see how vile you turds could be, leaving just a little more disgusted and a lot more ready to punch some of you in the god damn face.
 
2022-07-06 6:40:44 AM  
Don't forget all the severely handicapped children that will be force birthed now. That no one will adopt and will be expensive to keep alive and educate etc
 
2022-07-06 6:42:30 AM  
It's disgusting how much these supposed Christian hate humanity. F*cking scumbags.

"Here, let's create a huge social mess because our sky wizard tells us made up sh*t."

And the best part... our supposed secular government allows this sh*t.

We've already been overthrown... it's not if or when. We're in the try to get it back phase.
 
2022-07-06 6:44:58 AM  

eurotrader: TelemonianAjax: eurotrader: Now a study on Reactive attachment disorder in children can be conducted in the Southern US with state child care systems that are already close to broken being given additional children without any additional staff or funding. Before the Roberts court said fark personal privacy and rights a person would have to travel to a third world orphanage to study the disorder.

Due to a narcissistic ex, I have experience in raising a kid with reactive attachment disorder. The more I have learned through her DBT and my own counseling on the subject has left me to understand modern America so much deeper than I could before.

America's whole history is damaged people raising damaged people and calling it good. Trauma affects us all and our society produces traumatized people every day as a necessary function. Trauma is at the heart of all human experience, either by its presence or its absence.

I asked my counselor how she faces this horror every day and she got very very serious and said 'Get very seriously into Biddhism." I haven't taken the advice (I prefer whisky and weed despite the lower effects) but I remember it every day for her somber tone. I know she tried to save my soul that day but the rest is up to me.

If you are doing DBT you are already doing a number of mindfulness exercises. Find a few more mindfulness practices that work for you and the Buddhism isn't necessary. Weed and whiskey as an adjunct doesn't hurt in reasonable moderation.

/Really like the DBT method for trauma.


On the subject of dealing with RAD and kids, I can only offer the both of you some virtual hugs and the advice of watching out and admitting to yourself if chemical comfort turns into your own addiction. Moderation is ok until it passes a fine line into no longer moderation.

It helped the kid with RAD also has a deep rooted hate for alcohol and drugs because if bio mom. It took her years to accept that it is ok for dad to have even a single beer. And will get in people's faces about it if she thinks someone is going overboard, including her peers. Which makes for fun times as a teenager.

My biggest wish for my child with RAD is to somehow make and keep friends. It is hard to watch her attempts and failures and difficulty dealing with people, but at the same time spiraling into depression because of loneliness.

/also thumbs up for DBT skills for trauma.
 
2022-07-06 6:52:46 AM  
Foster care systems have been farked for at least 50 years for a variety of reasons. Among those reasons: we continue to allow corporal punishment and debate when bruises, even broken skin, constitute abuse. Another reason: we criminalize poverty. A child in a poor family is far more likely to be pulled into the system than a child from a middle class or wealthy family. In fact, neglect is the most common reason children enter the system and it is frequently synonymous with poverty. Then, we pay financial support to foster parents that is not available to parents. Birth parents may be required to pay child support to the foster care system until they get their kids back making it harder for them to get their kids back. When aid is provided for children, it often triggers a mercenary attempt by a close relative (often a grandmother) to obtain custody for him/herself because the check follows the child. Yes, the majority of grandparents raising grandchildren have little if any choice, but the children for checks grandparents definitely exist and cause huge problems.
 
2022-07-06 6:54:07 AM  
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2022-07-06 6:57:30 AM  
America, land of the unwanted, abused, and neglected children - now with forced birth!  All of the financial responsibilities of birth without medical coverage, unable to take time off for medical appointments, and no time for physical and emotional recovery with added generational trauma.  Imagine the legal repercussions from even more children growing up with the seething hatred from parents who would have aborted them if mom could've gotten to another state and those children will likely never have access to adequate (actually qualified) mental health care.  America is truly exceptional.  There are fates worse than death, Republicans.
 
2022-07-06 7:05:14 AM  
I saw a clip on Reddit of someone talking to the anti-abortion people and asking them how many babies they have adopted and the stunned look on their faces were so funny.
 
2022-07-06 7:05:57 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: Came in expecting to see how vile you turds could be, leaving just a little more disgusted and a lot more ready to punch some of you in the god damn face.


Since you so obviously disagree with, and consistently have issues with, the people who post on this site who are not actively pro-fascist such as yourself, may I recommend staying on Storm Front or 4chan as that will allow you to be amoungst your peers.
Or, alternatively, you can finish your 17th binge viewing of seasons 1-37 of Ow My Balls and leave us in peace.
 
2022-07-06 7:17:54 AM  

mistahtom: My social media feed the last 48 hours

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I have stupid friends....


You're not wrong, though.
Wait until those pampered pets bite the excess crotch fruit in the neighborhood. That expensive dog food is going out one window and the dog going out the next.
There ain't gonna be no money for pets now that all the 45 year old and unwed  grandmothers look at the budget and figure out baby formula and doctor deductible eat up the excess from 2 jobs.
Prostitution will be cheap, but you'd better get used to sex with pregnant women.
Child labor laws will become a distant memory. The republicans will snatch up the street kids and breed them out for organ donation, or live round research for their next weapon system.

Dystopian future...

You have no idea how crazy conservatives are going to make this.
 
2022-07-06 7:19:03 AM  
Somebody will come up with a modern version of a Work House.

/ Run by bitter Nuns.
 
2022-07-06 7:23:18 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: Came in expecting to see how vile you turds could be, leaving just a little more disgusted and a lot more ready to punch some of you in the god damn face.


Don't worry pumpkin. A lot of women will also die because insane radicals decided they deserved it. Doesn't that make you feel better?
 
2022-07-06 7:44:51 AM  
Everything that deals with mothers and or children is probably farked.

Hospitals will need to deal with extra births, extra prenatal care, extra complications etc. With already limited staff and a doctor and nurse shortage. And since wealthier folks will just go on a abortion vacation to California it will be mostly poor folks who don't have insurance.

Daycares will be screwed. Most people can't afford an extra kid in daycare. So we'll see a lot of alternatives happening, grandparents that are watching kids, unlicensed daycares where someone in the neighborhood watches several kids etc. Or women will just stay home. If you're wage doesn't cover the cost why go to work?

Anyone who employs women will be farked. As women are primary caregivers in most cases it's going to fall on them to cover the childcare crisis's. Extra sick days, leaving early/coming in late, women who would have otherwise advanced to higher more time intensive roles will not be able to because of child care needs meaning less qualified people will. Employers cover insurance so costs will rise. Births are expensive and moreso if there's complications. Women will be out of the workforce for longer periods for maternity leaves, fathers may be out more often for paternity leave. And finally women will leave the workplace either voluntarily or through necessity to take care of kids. There will be a tighter labor market that will cost employers more.

Colleges.. yep farked. Women outgraduate men.  I'm not sure how many college students have an abortion over the course of their time in college but 1 in 10 wouldn't shock me at all, 1 in 5 wouldn't even seem out of the realm of possibility. Those women will likely drop out instead. And single non college educated mothers aren't likely to be paying back student loans right away. Some college aged men will be dropping too. Gotta get to work to cover those child support bills.

Schools..superfarked. more kids, fewer teachers since they're mostly women and will need to take care of their own kids, less funding since women needed to drop out of the workplace and therefore provide less tax base. Private schools will be even worse. I may pay extra if there's one kid and two incomes, but multiple kids on a single income, nope.

And these are just tip of the iceberg welfare spending will increase, general insurance costs as we cover more people, car sales drop as we have more women staying home, real estate prices drop since people don't have dual incomes and can't afford bigger houses, etc.
 
2022-07-06 8:02:50 AM  
Forget adopting, we can't even find enough foster homes. Here in my county of Florida kids were sleeping in offices and cars because there was no placement for them. Sadly, most foster homes are terrible. Abuse is rampant. There is so much contracting that no is ever held responsible. DCF contract with companies who then contract with other companies. They when they screw up they get a new contract with another named company that employs all the same previous people. In Florida dependency cases are confidential but the court hearings are not. People should go in there and listen to some of these cases and then talk about pro life.
 
2022-07-06 8:04:51 AM  
"Child welfare advocates say they're concerned about a growing foster care-to-prison pipeline."

Well -- the future State of Gilead is going to need a ready labor supply.

<snark alert>
 
2022-07-06 8:12:13 AM  

mistahtom: My social media feed the last 48 hours

[Fark user image image 425x420]

I have stupid friends....


People's pets mean a lot to them too...
 
2022-07-06 8:15:28 AM  
I already diagnose at least one foster kid with fetal alcohol spectrum disorder case per week. I am booked 6 months out. I don't need any more job security.
 
2022-07-06 8:17:32 AM  
Christians are a stain.
 
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