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2022-07-05 11:47:38 PM  
He hates black people?

What an ass.
 
2022-07-05 11:49:54 PM  
I am sure there are going to be some hilarious comments in this thread.
Fark has some really edgy humorists, you know.
 
2022-07-05 11:55:30 PM  
Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.
 
2022-07-05 11:57:15 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.


In his defense, he's NQNS
 
2022-07-05 11:57:51 PM  
Gray skies are gonna clear up
 
2022-07-05 11:58:45 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.


*shrug* I sort of get where he's coming from but he was an idiot fir saying it out loud
 
2022-07-05 11:59:17 PM  
Im still looking for wtf subby is talking about.

I wouldn't like the NFL draft or DNC either if I was worried some bunch of rednecks were going to attack it. Think about how vulnerable those events tend to be as targets for people who blame your city for Trump loosing an election.

There was a shooting at a farking parade by one of those maniacs for chrissake, and just a single state north, some asshole shot up a grocery store because he didn't like black people.

Or are we just gonna completely remove context and assume the worst of someone because that fits our narrative again?

I mean, that or he's a racist.
 
2022-07-06 12:03:11 AM  

Clearly Canadian: Or are we just gonna completely remove context and assume the worst of someone because that fits our narrative again?


Yes.
 
2022-07-06 12:03:46 AM  

Clearly Canadian: Im still looking for wtf subby is talking about.


Don't bother, there is nothing there. What the mayor said was entirely reasonable and in no way could be construed as racially anything.
/Headline says far more about the hordes of secret nazis that live in subby's head than anything else.
 
2022-07-06 12:05:04 AM  
None of this is normal.
It's not supposed to be this way.
 
2022-07-06 12:06:20 AM  

johnny_vegas: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.

*shrug* I sort of get where he's coming from but he was an idiot fir saying it out loud


I'm sure it's a terrible job, but what did he expect?
 
2022-07-06 12:07:14 AM  

johnny_vegas: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.

*shrug* I sort of get where he's coming from but he was an idiot fir saying it out loud


Why?  Why the fark should he care?  He's a lame duck mayor, he's old, he's fed the fark up waiting for the other shoe to drop.  This is nothing that any other old leader hasn't said for thousands of years.  "Fark y'all, y'all crazy, can't wait to retire."
 
2022-07-06 12:14:05 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.


He wants to go full Palin
 
2022-07-06 12:14:59 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: johnny_vegas: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Such leadership.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, quitter.

*shrug* I sort of get where he's coming from but he was an idiot fir saying it out loud

I'm sure it's a terrible job, but what did he expect?


I imagine it's the pinnacle of his career and something he should be proud of but something that has tremendous responsibility and absolutely consumes your existence everyday.
You want to do it and you want to do well but at the end of it there is a huge weight lifted off your shoulders.
 
2022-07-06 12:16:14 AM  
It's like the city is paying him money, not because they love him, but just because they expect him to do work.  Those bastards...
 
2022-07-06 12:16:46 AM  
/CSB

I have a friend who is a council member, and I think they're going to have PTSD after this.  Running a city through COVID, through mass shootings, through death threats, through protest, through Trumpist marches... Where people care more about the performative than performance. Where you have no control over the root causes of the problems and can only slow the bleeding.

A lot of qualified people are leaving office and only meme-lords and nut jobs will run our stuff.

/CSB
 
2022-07-06 12:22:56 AM  

Dryad: Clearly Canadian: Im still looking for wtf subby is talking about.

Don't bother, there is nothing there. What the mayor said was entirely reasonable and in no way could be construed as racially anything.
/Headline says far more about the hordes of secret nazis that live in subby's head than anything else.


Subby clearly does not get the quiet part meme.
Mayor comes off a little self absorbed, but worries that bad things are going to happen because we do nothing to stop them. Overall he sounds like a real person who would be farkin terrified that horrible things are going to happen on his watch. That is all.

/Oh no, human emotion. Kill it!
 
2022-07-06 12:26:48 AM  
Did you get to go to sleep in your own bed tonight?
Did  your family get to go to sleep in their own beds tonight?

You and they did?

Congratulations. You are one of today's winners of the American Gun Lottery!

Tomorrow is a whole new game!
 
2022-07-06 12:31:38 AM  
johnny_vegas: something that has tremendous responsibility and absolutely consumes your existence

.
That's why sociopaths excel in positions of leadership and power.

They don't care if they fail or not.
 
2022-07-06 12:40:49 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: johnny_vegas: something that has tremendous responsibility and absolutely consumes your existence

.
That's why sociopaths excel in positions of leadership and power.

They don't care if they fail or not.


That may be.  I have no way of knowing if that's the case here or not.
 
2022-07-06 12:42:13 AM  
I didn't see anything in the article about Larry Krasner's revolving door on the city jail.
 
2022-07-06 12:46:41 AM  
Good for him...
 
2022-07-06 12:49:52 AM  
That's something you keep to yourself, or anonymously post on internet forums if you are leadership. The mayor either is having a mental breakdown or just really going scorched earth and flipping off people out the door.
 
2022-07-06 12:51:13 AM  
It sounds honest. He's expected to respond to every bad thing in the city, but doesn't have much to do with making things happen. Mayors are way overrated.
 
2022-07-06 12:54:46 AM  

wildcardjack: It sounds honest. He's expected to respond to every bad thing in the city, but doesn't have much to do with making things happen. Mayors are way overrated.


John Street was pretty good at fixing tickets
 
2022-07-06 1:13:03 AM  

Sir Paul: /CSB

I have a friend who is a council member, and I think they're going to have PTSD after this.  Running a city through COVID, through mass shootings, through death threats, through protest, through Trumpist marches... Where people care more about the performative than performance. Where you have no control over the root causes of the problems and can only slow the bleeding.

A lot of qualified people are leaving office and only meme-lords and nut jobs will run our stuff.

/CSB


This strikes me as the closest thing to the point of it all from my perspective.

It seems to me we have two kinds of leaders in the world at the moment:

1. One type very much in the mold of TFG, willing to serve only themselves and their ilk while going scorched earth on everyone and everything else in the process if it in any way benefits themselves and their ilk.

2. Another type still trying to play within the rules. They want people to calm down and at least give mind to compromise. They're trying to do all the right things, be a few steps ahead and anticipate everything that could go wrong.

The Type 2 folks are the ones we want in charge, and want more of in society, generally. They want a society based on rules, order and thoughtfulness, not rage, threats and a mob mentality. They also want a society where people's behavior is at least somewhat predictable enough such that you don't have to legislate against the assumption folks will find every way around, through and over the rules to selfishly get what they want against the best interest of everyone else.

And yet, at every step a Type 2 person tries to do things nowadays, there's a Type 1 person looking for every way around, through and over the rules to selfishly get what they want against the best interest of everyone else. Plot all kinds of security for any event and a shooter might still show up, or someone trying to plow their car through a parade, or deciding to have a Proud Boys march, or whatever. Try to limit weapons and those limits get shot down in higher courts. Try to make any changes and a mob will almost immediately unleash furious anger upon you such that you get even worried what might happen if you try to make any other changes.

I consider myself a fairly intelligent, politically minded person. I had a mind when I was a kid to get into politics when things felt more civil. My dad worked in state government for close to 25 years. I wouldn't go near it with a 10-foot pole now. Half the population thinks anything and anyone involved with the government that isn't in TFG's inner circle deserves to burn in hell, along with their families, and will say things to that extent on a daily basis. Being a leader with a mind towards doing the right thing right now sounds hellish.

It's the same thing I see with umpires and officials in youth sports nowadays. We complain there's not good leadership the same way we complain there's not good officials. But what do we do? Berate them so much that none of the good people want to deal with the crap involved with the job and leave, which makes the situation even worse. The good people then don't want the job because of the massive stress and hordes of people who will be disgruntled with you no matter what you do, leaving only those bad at the job or with bad intentions.

The good ones get sick of the feeling they're trying to pull things out of a sewage tank but having more sewage dumped on their head every time they try. So we end up stuck with bad folks in the positions, if any folks who want to be in charge at all.

I think I'd be good in government if it was just bureaucracy, the technicalities of curriculum and budgets. It's not that anymore. What used to be a largely bureaucratic job like school board rep now has to deal with screaming mad hoards at meetings, threatening you and your family with every ounce of their soul. Yeah, fark dealing with that nonsense.

No, most government leaders don't say things like "I don't want to do this anymore" like this mayor did. But a lot are probably damn sure thinking it. This mayor said it. He said the quiet part out loud.
 
2022-07-06 2:18:15 AM  

Sir Paul: /CSB

I have a friend who is a council member, and I think they're going to have PTSD after this.  Running a city through COVID, through mass shootings, through death threats, through protest, through Trumpist marches... Where people care more about the performative than performance. Where you have no control over the root causes of the problems and can only slow the bleeding.

A lot of qualified people are leaving office and only meme-lords and nut jobs will run our stuff.

/CSB


That sounds like what this is. He knows every big event is a target and he's responsible for security, but he can't actually make any changes to protect anybody. More police won't stop this from happening. It can make it less damaging when it does, but clearly they come with their own problems too. Social programs can help, but with a city that big problems come in from outside as much as they grow up inside the city. It has to be hell being responsible and impotent.
 
2022-07-06 2:34:07 AM  
"I don't enjoy the Fourth of July," Kenney said. "I didn't enjoy the Democratic National Convention. I didn't enjoy the NFL Draft. I'm waiting for something bad to happen all the time. I'll be happy when I'm not here - when I'm not mayor, and I can enjoy some stuff."

Welcome to our reality.

Kenney called out Congress and the legislature for not giving him the "ability to take care of guns," calling the US "a gun country."

A gun day.
A red day.

Ere the sun rises.
 
2022-07-06 2:49:34 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Clearly Canadian: Or are we just gonna completely remove context and assume the worst of someone because that fits our narrative again?

Yes.


Hi, friend.

I'm sorry to find you still trying to to pump that well.
 
2022-07-06 2:59:14 AM  

jso2897: I am sure there are going to be some hilarious comments in this thread.
Fark has some really edgy humorists, you know.


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2022-07-06 3:54:13 AM  

Sir Paul: /CSB

I have a friend who is a council member, and I think they're going to have PTSD after this.  Running a city through COVID, through mass shootings, through death threats, through protest, through Trumpist marches... Where people care more about the performative than performance. Where you have no control over the root causes of the problems and can only slow the bleeding.

A lot of qualified people are leaving office and only meme-lords and nut jobs will run our stuff.

/CSB


I think about this a lot. I do feel like I'm being called to public service. (After all, I am nearly old enough to have finally pulled my head out of my own ass.) But I'm just not sure I could deal with the ignorant farkers who come in spouting demonstrably false nonsense.

I'd be happy to entertain debate about tax rates and where money should and should not go, but I'm not sure I could sit there and take abuse from people who think the earth is flat or vaccines are funded by an evil cabal or that I'm part of a conspiracy to suck the blood from children.
 
2022-07-06 5:55:27 AM  
The Quiet Part: Kenney called out Congress and the legislature for not giving him the "ability to take care of guns," calling the US "a gun country."

Kenney is also 63.  This should make everyone think about what motivates older politicians.
 
2022-07-06 6:42:43 AM  
My takeaway is that once he actually cared about the office, and was
ready to fix things, but he's now overwhelmed and burnt out.

(I just remember when Philly just had the usual drug turf murders not the terrorism of
mass shooting threats due to mindless teen mayhem)

The string pullers that own this country really wants societal collapse to speed their transition to American style fascism.
I can't wait for the media to applaud every stupid drool that comes out of you know who's anus lips, while bemoaning the leadership of "You did this, Brandon".

I live in a world where my germaphobia, agoraphobias and general misanthropy is sensible reaction.

/well off to get those steel doors installed, and find a good sale on a shotgun.
 
2022-07-06 6:45:06 AM  

johnny_vegas: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: johnny_vegas: something that has tremendous responsibility and absolutely consumes your existence

.
That's why sociopaths excel in positions of leadership and power.

They don't care if they fail or not.

That may be.  I have no way of knowing if that's the case here or not.


It's not
 
2022-07-06 6:51:33 AM  

jso2897: I am sure there are going to be some hilarious comments in this thread.
Fark has some really edgy humorists, you know.


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2022-07-06 6:55:57 AM  
I can't wait to retire either and I have no problem telling my boss that right to his face.
 
2022-07-06 7:08:50 AM  

trippdogg: It's like the city is paying him money, not because they love him, but just because they expect him to do work.  Those bastards...


The complaint is Congress and the SC won't let him do his work of making his constituents safe from guns, because they keep putting up roadblocks, making it easier for people to get guns.
 
2022-07-06 8:08:12 AM  

resident dystopian: My takeaway is that once he actually cared about the office, and was
ready to fix things, but he's now overwhelmed and burnt out.

(I just remember when Philly just had the usual drug turf murders not the terrorism of
mass shooting threats due to mindless teen mayhem)

The string pullers that own this country really wants societal collapse to speed their transition to American style fascism.
I can't wait for the media to applaud every stupid drool that comes out of you know who's anus lips, while bemoaning the leadership of "You did this, Brandon".

I live in a world where my germaphobia, agoraphobias and general misanthropy is sensible reaction.

/well off to get those steel doors installed, and find a good sale on a shotgun.


Username checks out.
 
2022-07-06 8:20:24 AM  

resident dystopian: My takeaway is that once he actually cared about the office, and was
ready to fix things, but he's now overwhelmed and burnt out.

(I just remember when Philly just had the usual drug turf murders not the terrorism of
mass shooting threats due to mindless teen mayhem)

The string pullers that own this country really wants societal collapse to speed their transition to American style fascism.
I can't wait for the media to applaud every stupid drool that comes out of you know who's anus lips, while bemoaning the leadership of "You did this, Brandon".

I live in a world where my germaphobia, agoraphobias and general misanthropy is sensible reaction.

/well off to get those steel doors installed, and find a good sale on a shotgun.


The idea is that as a leader of anything, you have people helping you in getting the job done. You're not the doer, you're the person helping to remove obstacles in front of the doer. You expect the constituency to help a little and genuinely want you to do well. You hope the legislative environment won't worsen because the problems in front of you are already enough. You hope your spouse understands the long hours and your distractions. Streets with fewer potholes, less backroom corruption, more jobs, reasonable improvements.

But it's a choice between bad and worse oftentimes, not good and better. Whatever you say, at least 40% will disagree with it and loudly call you an arsehole. The folks you count on to help are ok - but some have their own agendas and your vision never quite comes into focus. Your kid has a problem - and it's front page news.

There's a reason that someone that cares about that, even if they are seemingly aloof, will see their hair turn gray or just fall out. Retirement with only a few lingering problems as a result of your management is the best you can hope for.

It's ugly being a leader.
 
2022-07-06 8:35:13 AM  
Everything he said completely validates my worldview.

Wait, he said what?
 
2022-07-06 9:19:33 AM  

Bill the unknowing: resident dystopian: My takeaway is that once he actually cared about the office, and was
ready to fix things, but he's now overwhelmed and burnt out.

(I just remember when Philly just had the usual drug turf murders not the terrorism of
mass shooting threats due to mindless teen mayhem)

The string pullers that own this country really wants societal collapse to speed their transition to American style fascism.
I can't wait for the media to applaud every stupid drool that comes out of you know who's anus lips, while bemoaning the leadership of "You did this, Brandon".

I live in a world where my germaphobia, agoraphobias and general misanthropy is sensible reaction.

/well off to get those steel doors installed, and find a good sale on a shotgun.

The idea is that as a leader of anything, you have people helping you in getting the job done. You're not the doer, you're the person helping to remove obstacles in front of the doer. You expect the constituency to help a little and genuinely want you to do well. You hope the legislative environment won't worsen because the problems in front of you are already enough. You hope your spouse understands the long hours and your distractions. Streets with fewer potholes, less backroom corruption, more jobs, reasonable improvements.

But it's a choice between bad and worse oftentimes, not good and better. Whatever you say, at least 40% will disagree with it and loudly call you an arsehole. The folks you count on to help are ok - but some have their own agendas and your vision never quite comes into focus. Your kid has a problem - and it's front page news.

There's a reason that someone that cares about that, even if they are seemingly aloof, will see their hair turn gray or just fall out. Retirement with only a few lingering problems as a result of your management is the best you can hope for.

It's ugly being a leader.


Yeah, you notice trump only aged when he found out that people hated him
 
2022-07-06 10:39:30 AM  

VoiceOfReason499: I think about this a lot. I do feel like I'm being called to public service. (After all, I am nearly old enough to have finally pulled my head out of my own ass.) But I'm just not sure I could deal with the ignorant farkers who come in spouting demonstrably false nonsense.

I'd be happy to entertain debate about tax rates and where money should and should not go, but I'm not sure I could sit there and take abuse from people who think the earth is flat or vaccines are funded by an evil cabal or that I'm part of a conspiracy to suck the blood from children.


I do find it interesting I'm saying this to someone with your username, but it does fit here:

You can't reason with unreasonable people. That's a huge part of our societal problem right now.

You have folks who have decided they know they're right and can't be convinced otherwise, even when their beliefs fly against science or logic. They just know it's someone else's fault they don't have what they want, and the best way to get it is by being more enraged or violent than the next guy.

You can't reason with folks who have decided they definitely want what they want and they're going to use intimidation and threats as tactics. They're beyond reason.

There's a reason we've tried to evolve beyond behaving like that since around the Renaissance or so. Rage does not help you cure diseases, or program a computer. A willingness to admit one needs to change one's ways, learn, think differently and adjust does. But yeah, "Screw all that, I want my guns and don't wanna wear a mask or get a vaccine because I don't like the smart people that are trying to tell me what to do."

It sucks.
 
2022-07-06 10:43:48 AM  

baka-san: Bill the unknowing: resident dystopian: My takeaway is that once he actually cared about the office, and was
ready to fix things, but he's now overwhelmed and burnt out.

(I just remember when Philly just had the usual drug turf murders not the terrorism of
mass shooting threats due to mindless teen mayhem)

The string pullers that own this country really wants societal collapse to speed their transition to American style fascism.
I can't wait for the media to applaud every stupid drool that comes out of you know who's anus lips, while bemoaning the leadership of "You did this, Brandon".

I live in a world where my germaphobia, agoraphobias and general misanthropy is sensible reaction.

/well off to get those steel doors installed, and find a good sale on a shotgun.

The idea is that as a leader of anything, you have people helping you in getting the job done. You're not the doer, you're the person helping to remove obstacles in front of the doer. You expect the constituency to help a little and genuinely want you to do well. You hope the legislative environment won't worsen because the problems in front of you are already enough. You hope your spouse understands the long hours and your distractions. Streets with fewer potholes, less backroom corruption, more jobs, reasonable improvements.

But it's a choice between bad and worse oftentimes, not good and better. Whatever you say, at least 40% will disagree with it and loudly call you an arsehole. The folks you count on to help are ok - but some have their own agendas and your vision never quite comes into focus. Your kid has a problem - and it's front page news.

There's a reason that someone that cares about that, even if they are seemingly aloof, will see their hair turn gray or just fall out. Retirement with only a few lingering problems as a result of your management is the best you can hope for.

It's ugly being a leader.

Yeah, you notice trump only aged when he found out that people hated him


He was a rotten vegetable already - he just twirls his hair and spray paints himself to a grotesque semblance of life.
 
2022-07-06 10:56:21 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: trippdogg: It's like the city is paying him money, not because they love him, but just because they expect him to do work.  Those bastards...

The complaint is Congress and the SC won't let him do his work of making his constituents safe from guns, because they keep putting up roadblocks, making it easier for people to get guns.


But no mention of the disaster Philly's DA has made of the office. It's so bad 70 of the lawyers he brought on all quit on him. These were people hired to believed in his plan and they said "fark this" and left. Mind you it has some good points like bail, at in the current form, is wrong but he apparently sucks at fixing it.

It's everyone's else's fault but the Philly government.
 
2022-07-06 11:08:44 AM  

Bill the unknowing: But it's a choice between bad and worse oftentimes, not good and better. Whatever you say, at least 40% will disagree with it and loudly call you an arsehole. The folks you count on to help are ok - but some have their own agendas and your vision never quite comes into focus. Your kid has a problem - and it's front page news.

There's a reason that someone that cares about that, even if they are seemingly aloof, will see their hair turn gray or just fall out. Retirement with only a few lingering problems as a result of your management is the best you can hope for.

It's ugly being a leader.


There are a couple reasons I've chosen not to have kids. The primary reason is because my own childhood wasn't great, but that's beside the point I'm going to try to make here.

A pretty major secondary reason is I've always had a want to work in sports media. It ended up being a side gig for me, but it's a pretty major one that keeps me busy as a freelancer around 200 nights out of the year in addition to a 9 to 5 non-media job.

My sports work sometimes involves travel, definitely involves a lot of weird hours, and if I had ended up in it full-time, it would have had far more of both with less money than I make with the 9 to 5.

All that is not conducive to being a good father. The guys who do it full time end up with regrets if they have families: More than just not being there, but not being able to help with kids' homework, missing school plays and youth games, not contributing around the house and so on. Add in the perils of the road -- spending half your time in places where everyone is literally watching and rooting for your employer to fail, bad sleep, stress, drinking, fans complaining about your work, loneliness, the potential to be unfaithful, etc. -- and, frankly, I don't think it's the kind of job meant for anyone with a family.

Still, for some of us, it's a calling. That said, I also knew I didn't want to put someone I cared about in a position where they were going to have to bear all that responsibility. So I kinda knew: No kids.

That's the way I felt wanting to go into something as trite as sports media. Being a government official, with the weight of the world on you 24/7 and the way we treat "the other side" nowadays? I can't really imagine.
 
2022-07-06 11:42:38 AM  
What kind of sick psychotic fark would enjoy being mayor of a major American city in 2022? How farked in the head would you have to be not to be looking forward to having all that be someone else's problem?

Look, for all I know this guy is worse than Hitler in other ways, but I ain't mad about this. Was he not supposed to say it out loud? You'll get over it.
 
2022-07-06 12:21:46 PM  

Clearly Canadian: Or are we just gonna completely remove and assume the worst of someone because that fits our narrative again?


indeed
 
2022-07-06 7:50:05 PM  

Clearly Canadian: Im still looking for wtf subby is talking about.

I wouldn't like the NFL draft or DNC either if I was worried some bunch of rednecks were going to attack it. Think about how vulnerable those events tend to be as targets for people who blame your city for Trump loosing an election.

There was a shooting at a farking parade by one of those maniacs for chrissake, and just a single state north, some asshole shot up a grocery store because he didn't like black people.


I gotta say, this was my reading of it as well. Oh, whatever.
 
2022-07-06 11:57:30 PM  

trippdogg: It's like the city is paying him money, not because they love him, but just because they expect him to do work.  Those bastards...


WTF does that have to do with anything? Do you have a job? Do they pay you? Are you looking forward to retirement? Congratz. Now you know how stupid your comment was.
 
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