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2022-07-05 9:12:37 PM  
Nice web design. Is it 1996 already? Could use some frames.
 
2022-07-05 9:50:02 PM  
I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.
 
2022-07-05 10:05:51 PM  

enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.


Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?
 
2022-07-05 10:33:33 PM  

Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.


What I wouldn't give for Global Entry. Not offered to Ireland
 
2022-07-05 10:35:00 PM  

Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.


I got PreCheck and then got Global Entry as I was planning.on leaving the country.  GE was more of a pain to get as I had to go to the airport but renewing was simple and I did it online.  Every time I fly back into the US I'm usually waiting longer for my bags than the time to get through customs.
 
2022-07-06 1:21:21 AM  
The US government blatantly made three classes of travelers, and Democrats are totally fine with it. Because they benefit from it.
 
2022-07-06 1:23:52 AM  

Mugato: Nice web design. Is it 1996 already? Could use some frames.


YOU THE MAN NOW, DOG

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2022-07-06 1:25:42 AM  
... there were no TSA lines,

Oh, STFU. Stop pretending like security started the day we started flying again. Just because they weren't called the TSA at the time, it doesn't mean that we already didn't dread standing line when we flew.
 
2022-07-06 1:32:38 AM  
If you're going through TSA flying out of New Orleans you'd might as well be sipping the gunge off of Bourbon St through a straw while jabbing yourself with covid... its 50 people long, 8-10 rows across with next to no masks. You'll get drunk just from their breath. Thank you precheck to get me out of that cesspool of humanity.
 
2022-07-06 1:42:24 AM  
Was that in English? I didn't get anything from it.
 
2022-07-06 1:49:54 AM  

Mikey1969: ... there were no TSA lines,

Oh, STFU. Stop pretending like security started the day we started flying again. Just because they weren't called the TSA at the time, it doesn't mean that we already didn't dread standing line when we flew.


How old are you?  Most of your posts and your username would indicate that you are at least as old as me (45), and lines were absolutely shorter pre-9/11.

You used to be advised to arrive at the airport an hour before your flight.  Now it's 2 hours domestic and 3 hours international.

Hell, I used to go to the airport to watch planes come and go as entertainment as a teenager and never had to go through any sort of security that took more than a minute or two.  This was at O'Hare- the busiest airport in the world at the time.

Maybe you're remembering the 5 minute line leading to the metal detector as being a hassle, but it really wasn't. What we have now really is.
 
2022-07-06 1:55:01 AM  

Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.


Global Entry. Whole thing's a money making scam, but whatever, it gets you out of the cattle chute. And as far as surveillance? They snap your digital image when you get a driver's license, and when you go through passport control, they have your phone number and can track you on your cell phone, they read your license plate, the NSA scoops all your internet traffic; whatever database TSA adds you to doesn't really add much to the mix.

TSA is a paper tiger. I don't really think they're accomplishing much except taking guns away from idiots who try to bring them on planes. Which is probably a good thing. I highly doubt they would manage to keep a determined terrorist group from boarding an aircraft.
 
2022-07-06 2:00:55 AM  

enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.


Two reasons:

First, almost no one pays for Clear. I have like four or five credit cards that all offer reimbursements for clear memberships. And they're cards I would have had anyway, so clear is essentially free for me.

Second, because it allows me to cut in front of the peasants waiting in the security line, regardless of how long that line is, and that's worth every single one of the pennies I don't pay for Clear.

Also you don't always get precheck on international flights.
 
2022-07-06 2:08:55 AM  

tfresh: If you're going through TSA flying out of New Orleans you'd might as well be sipping the gunge off of Bourbon St through a straw while jabbing yourself with covid... its 50 people long, 8-10 rows across with next to no masks. You'll get drunk just from their breath. Thank you precheck to get me out of that cesspool of humanity.


If you think their TSA line is bad, try literally any hub airport. You don't even have to take things out of your bag there!

Now getting to and from MSY these days, THAT'S a headache.
 
2022-07-06 2:09:21 AM  
biyaaatci: ...Hell, I used to go to the airport to watch planes come and go as entertainment as a teenager and never had to go through any sort of security that took more than a minute or two.  This was at O'Hare- the busiest airport in the world at the time.

Maybe you're remembering the 5 minute line leading to the metal detector as being a hassle, but it really wasn't. What we have now really is.


When I was in college if able I would pick up my dad at the gate or Customs (SeaTac).  I learned quick to get there a bit early and "check" the status of the flight in at the Northwest Orient lounge where he had status.  The nice gals would say "he is not coming in for an hour or two - why don't you stay here? we have food and drink". (yes, yes they did!)  Manna for a broke college student.

"Son, are you drunk?"

"Why yes Dad, here's the keys" (his travelling companions would laugh, noting I should be in Marketing instead of Engineering).

" mutter, grumble, flight in from Seoul was too long now this..."
 
2022-07-06 2:16:32 AM  
90% of the old homeowners on this decrepit aggregator probably have ring doorbells and rage against the TSA
 
2022-07-06 2:18:42 AM  
This is an anomaly and a boring story:

I remember one time waaaay before the pandemic my mother and I were traveling with my dad to visit my sister. Mom and I were pre-check and my dad somehow wasn't.

We were like "see you on the other side" because we were kind of mean and taunted him.

He was sitting on the other side waiting for us. Somehow that day his line was shorter than ours.

There's a lot of lessons to be learned from this. For instance my mother is dead. Do you still have a mom?
 
2022-07-06 2:41:06 AM  
FTFA: what it was like to fly before 9/11 - there were no TSA lines, there was no PreCheck, and there certainly wasn't any requirement to take off your shoes. In fact, there wasn't any TSA at all."

First of all, I don't know why it bolded it like it did, but copy and paste, eh?
2nd, I'm old enough to remember going to the gate to watch the farking airplane land and wait for your loved one to get off the flight.  I remember taking family to the gate and watching them board and then waiting for the plane to take off, that's how old I am, yay!  OLD!
 
2022-07-06 2:45:46 AM  

Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.


I didn't get asked that at all, but I'm boring. The wife and I joke we're the most boring people ever to apply.

I don't disagree with the premise, it's total horse shiat anyone even needs to do these programs. However for people like me, contractors and pilots, well it's not like the government didn't have ten copies of my fingerprints already.
 
2022-07-06 3:14:48 AM  

inglixthemad: Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.

I didn't get asked that at all, but I'm boring. The wife and I joke we're the most boring people ever to apply.

I don't disagree with the premise, it's total horse shiat anyone even needs to do these programs. However for people like me, contractors and pilots, well it's not like the government didn't have ten copies of my fingerprints already.


As a foreigner you're not allowed to enter into the USA unless you pinky promise not to commit an act of terrorism. I fill out the form every time. I don't see the point in asking, but if you get rid of it and someone blows themselves up you'll definitely have idiotic people saying "see, should have asked them..." in all earnestness.
 
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2022-07-06 3:15:14 AM  
You guys, the author of that article is old enough to remember airports prior to 9/11!

Warm round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2022-07-06 3:20:02 AM  
I'd prefer they innovate their multimillion dollar scanners so they weren't defeated by a dress and allowing them to be allowed to grope me in front of everyone (though this could be the excuse used because I'm a trans woman, who knows).

God I wish my partner wasn't in sacramento so I could continue my streak of saying fark flying.
 
2022-07-06 3:33:28 AM  
One of the best options is a NEXUS Pass...it gets you in the quick line to and from Canada and it includes TSA Pre and Global Entry.

The only problem is that interview centers are limited to border states....and we only have two in Washington.

/Mine expired last year.
//Need to reapply.
 
2022-07-06 3:54:18 AM  

Insurgent: 90% of the old homeowners on this decrepit aggregator probably have ring doorbells and rage against the TSA


F*ck you I won't pack how you tell me
 
2022-07-06 4:27:48 AM  

misanthropicsob: The US government blatantly made three classes of travelers, and Democrats are totally fine with it. Because they benefit from it.


This doesn't sound at all random hackneyed and deranged. Look over there a mail box. Damn democrats. A dog on a leash. Damn democrats! A crack in the sidewalk. Damn democrats!
 
2022-07-06 4:29:15 AM  

Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.


Somehow I doubt that's valid for the border checkpoints for the people who aren't even leaving the country and just doing interstate travel.
 
2022-07-06 4:33:42 AM  

Flowery Twats: Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.

Global Entry. Whole thing's a money making scam, but whatever, it gets you out of the cattle chute. And as far as surveillance? They snap your digital image when you get a driver's license, and when you go through passport control, they have your phone number and can track you on your cell phone, they read your license plate, the NSA scoops all your internet traffic; whatever database TSA adds you to doesn't really add much to the mix.

TSA is a paper tiger. I don't really think they're accomplishing much except taking guns away from idiots who try to bring them on planes. Which is probably a good thing. I highly doubt they would manage to keep a determined terrorist group from boarding an aircraft.


Bingo. This was the original complaint about this when people lost their mind after 9/11. Plenty of warnings from civil rights groups. But no. We were either with Bush and Rumsfeld or we were with the terrorists. Jesus that line is so messed up. It worked.
 
2022-07-06 5:26:20 AM  

Flowery Twats: Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.

Global Entry. Whole thing's a money making scam, but whatever, it gets you out of the cattle chute. And as far as surveillance? They snap your digital image when you get a driver's license, and when you go through passport control, they have your phone number and can track you on your cell phone, they read your license plate, the NSA scoops all your internet traffic; whatever database TSA adds you to doesn't really add much to the mix.

TSA is a paper tiger. I don't really think they're accomplishing much except taking guns away from idiots who try to bring them on planes. Which is probably a good thing. I highly doubt they would manage to keep a determined terrorist group from boarding an aircraft.


10 years ago TSA used to interview me after every one of my flights. Every single one, but it was only a 5 min interview.

Many moons later I found out there was a Saudi National that used my name or similar as an alias. That also explains why 10 years ago my Officejet printer was emailing me pdf files to open, and TCPdump.service was installed on my Note phone and running under the Verizon Support user.

/It wasn't the printer emailing me...
//I'm not paranoid, you're paranoid
 
2022-07-06 6:55:20 AM  

Slaxl: inglixthemad: Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.

I didn't get asked that at all, but I'm boring. The wife and I joke we're the most boring people ever to apply.

I don't disagree with the premise, it's total horse shiat anyone even needs to do these programs. However for people like me, contractors and pilots, well it's not like the government didn't have ten copies of my fingerprints already.

As a foreigner you're not allowed to enter into the USA unless you pinky promise not to commit an act of terrorism. I fill out the form every time. I don't see the point in asking, but if you get rid of it and someone blows themselves up you'll definitely have idiotic people saying "see, should have asked them..." in all earnestness.


I think it's just to put a perjury cherry on top of whatever mountain of charges you're getting if you engage in any of those things governments ask when you cross their borders.
 
2022-07-06 6:59:59 AM  
It's all bullshiat really, and if Pre Check or the TSA actually stopped terrorist from flying the Republicans would be screaming about being discriminated against.
 
2022-07-06 7:19:11 AM  
Most of these things are already covered.  Get Global Entry.  It saved me about 1.5 hours of standing in line coming out of Aruba, where you clear US Customs on the Island.  We had time to sit back, eat a decent lunch, drink a bit and all that before our traveling companion made it through.  They only had like 20 minutes to spare before the flight left.  We were at the airport about 2.5 hours early.  It was a mad house.

Also, saying it adds to the surveillance state.... whatever.  I've worked jobs where I had to have a security clearance.  I'm fully surveilled already.  The Global Entry paperwork and interview were nothing compared to an SF-86 process(unless you're Jared, then you can 'forget' things).  And once the OPM lost all my data, well, whatever, I'm a bought and sold object of the Chinese now.

But hey the good news is that I can get $700 from the recent class action settlement and still get free credit monitoring!

https://postaltimes.com/postalnews/opm-data-breach-settlement/
 
2022-07-06 7:28:34 AM  

enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.


Because I have Pre-, Clear, and Global Entry. It takes me, on average, 90 seconds to make it through security. That is no exaggeration. That includes IAH. Clear uses Pre- information so you bypass their ID check line completely.

Worth every penny. (I travel weekly tho.)
 
2022-07-06 7:34:44 AM  

Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?


I fly a decent amount, even more now in the past 2 years due to travel healthcare.  PreCheck is something that I will NEVER be without again.  I know it is a bit of government intrusion, however in that realm, I really think, in my own opinion, that it is worth it.  Outside of Newark, where it almost never takes more than 20 minutes to get through, at their busiest, it rarely takes me more than 5 minutes from the curb to my gate.  In West Palm, it literally takes me under 3 minutes to get to the gate from the curb.
 
2022-07-06 7:37:25 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Was that in English? I didn't get anything from it.


Reporter with an axe to grind interviews Innovation Officer from TSA, and the whole thing never gets past the axe that the reporter is carrying.
 
2022-07-06 7:46:13 AM  
Meh. PreCheck and Global Entry are great. Have fun standing in lines, I guess?

I'd prefer just chucking the whole government apparatus out, but hey, some people are skurred if guns and Mooslims, so we all get to suffer.
 
2022-07-06 7:46:21 AM  
What do we give up to get into the shorter security line, and how comfortable should we be about that?

Nothing I didn't already give up for a DoD background check to work on a government project.
 
2022-07-06 8:06:13 AM  
Now lets talk about the stupid priority boarding.  Just use the most inefficient way to board half of your passengers who are willing to pay a bit extra to get in before the other half that doesn't.  Then force you to climb over two passengers to get to your window seat, even thought you are SUPPOSE to be in group 1 boarding, and now there is no room for your laptop bag you carried on, and now have to get it checked at the front of the plane causing more delays
 
2022-07-06 8:17:00 AM  

born_yesterday: Insurgent: 90% of the old homeowners on this decrepit aggregator probably have ring doorbells and rage against the TSA

F*ck you I won't pack how you tell me


If Rage Against the Machine updated the last lines of Killing in the Name Of today...
 
2022-07-06 8:54:26 AM  
I'm old enough to remember traveling before 9/11.  The article starts off as bullshiat.  It had changed more than a decade before.

I bought a very expensive electric train set in Germany in the 90s.  Turns out I wasn't the only person excited by that.

For those who don't know, (I sure didn't know) an electric train set  looks like a series of foot-long tubes with electronics and wires in them, at an airport x-ray machine.  I learned that when the Brussels airport bag checker turned pale and had the worst panic look I've ever seen.  The screen was in color.  He had no color.  He probably bought new underwear on his way to PTSD counseling.   That the same electric train set was on display 10 feet away in a kiosk didn't matter.  My explanation in German was bad and my pronunciation of Märklin was even worse.

When I arrived in Chicago, paid duty (very expensive) and re-boarded on a connecting flight, the TSA or whatever (since Lockerbie), didn't blink an eye.
 
2022-07-06 8:54:38 AM  
Admit it, there's a few of you that overly enjoy being inspected "fondled" by a black female TSA agent named Kiffany at Detroit metro.

/She smelled like coco butter and Swishers
 
2022-07-06 8:58:35 AM  

Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?


I heard a bunch of January 6th traitors were really pissed and went full Karen when the found out their PreCheck was canceled, so... it might be working.
 
2022-07-06 9:00:09 AM  

wildlifer: Admit it, there's a few of you that overly enjoy being inspected "fondled" by a black female TSA agent named Kiffany at Detroit metro.

/She smelled like coco butter and Swishers


Flew two weeks ago.
It took all my willpower to refrain from moaning when the TSA guy patted down my chest.

/not especially erotic, just my warped sense of humor.
 
2022-07-06 9:05:21 AM  

Laobaojun: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

I heard a bunch of January 6th traitors were really pissed and went full Karen when the found out their PreCheck was canceled, so... it might be working.


And now with citation goodness:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/passenger-flight-bans-capitol-riots/
 
2022-07-06 9:14:20 AM  

Mikey1969: ... there were no TSA lines,

Oh, STFU. Stop pretending like security started the day we started flying again. Just because they weren't called the TSA at the time, it doesn't mean that we already didn't dread standing line when we flew.


I remember metal detectors in the 90s. Take out your car keys and change and send it through while you walk through a simple upright scanner. Maybe get wanded if your belt buckle set it off.  It as no comparison to the insanity I went through last week.
 
2022-07-06 9:16:52 AM  

Great_Milenko: Mikey1969: ... there were no TSA lines,

Oh, STFU. Stop pretending like security started the day we started flying again. Just because they weren't called the TSA at the time, it doesn't mean that we already didn't dread standing line when we flew.

I remember metal detectors in the 90s. Take out your car keys and change and send it through while you walk through a simple upright scanner. Maybe get wanded if your belt buckle set it off.  It as no comparison to the insanity I went through last week.


Yup. Fuggin TSA.

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2022-07-06 9:18:00 AM  

enry: Deveyn: Gubbo: enry: I would say the only real innovation I have felt in the last 20 years of the TSA is PreCheck and Clear, and I'm signed up for both of them because I am a very impatient man who does not like to stand in line.

Why does Clear still exist?  PreCheck is what, $85 for 5 years?  And Clear is close to $200/year.

Why does precheck even exist. How much work did you have to put in to getting it? Or did they just ask if you were planning on being a terrorist?

Get Global Entry instead. It's $100 for 5 years and includes TSA Pre. It takes me about 2 minutes to get through CBP when returning to the U. My bags have never been searched and I don't have to wait 1hr+ to get my passport checked by CBP.

Global entry interviews are about 5 minutes and yeah, they ask if you are planning to be a terrorist.

I got PreCheck and then got Global Entry as I was planning.on leaving the country.  GE was more of a pain to get as I had to go to the airport but renewing was simple and I did it online.  Every time I fly back into the US I'm usually waiting longer for my bags than the time to get through customs.


Same for my wife and me.
 
2022-07-06 10:19:34 AM  
I'm TSA pre-checked ... it rules ...
 
2022-07-06 10:21:37 AM  

tfresh: If you're going through TSA flying out of New Orleans you'd might as well be sipping the gunge off of Bourbon St through a straw while jabbing yourself with covid... its 50 people long, 8-10 rows across with next to no masks. You'll get drunk just from their breath. Thank you precheck to get me out of that cesspool of humanity.


New Orleans is the toilet of America.
 
2022-07-06 10:31:34 AM  

Mugato: Nice web design. Is it 1996 already? Could use some frames.


Distinct lack of animated Gifs and no MIDI music. Geocities would be ashamed.

Also, why the fark do we still have the TSA around? Entirely goddamn security theater.
 
2022-07-06 2:30:54 PM  

The_Sponge: One of the best options is a NEXUS Pass...it gets you in the quick line to and from Canada and it includes TSA Pre and Global Entry.

The only problem is that interview centers are limited to border states....and we only have two in Washington.

/Mine expired last year.
//Need to reapply.


It's also half the price of Global Entry.
 
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