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(Common Dreams)   Fetterman takes a huge risk and calls for an Assault Weapons Ban. That is leadership. That is taking a risk for the right reason   (commondreams.org) divider line
    More: Spiffy, United States Senate, United States, relentless gun violence, millionaire television personality Mehmet Oz, Pennsylvania's open U.S. Senate seat, assault weapons, unfortunate reality, mass shootings  
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2022-07-05 11:07:24 PM  
Fetterman understands that with great power comes great responsibility.
 
2022-07-05 11:08:48 PM  
"We cannot and must not become numb to this ever-increasing gun violence,"

We have been since Columbine etc.

/And before...I know.
 
2022-07-05 11:10:08 PM  
He probably just got  1,000 emails from gun humpers asking him to define what an AK and AR are because that's their only go to.
 
2022-07-05 11:10:08 PM  
Isn't this exactly what people get mad at Beto O'Rourke for doing?
 
2022-07-05 11:10:22 PM  
It should be a semi-automatic with detachable magazine ban, but I get why not. SAWDMB isn't as easy as AWB.
 
2022-07-05 11:10:43 PM  
Gritty doesn't need an assault weapon to fark you up.
 
2022-07-05 11:12:07 PM  
And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.
 
2022-07-05 11:12:07 PM  

Zombie DJ: He probably just got  1,000 emails from gun humpers asking him to define what an AK and AR are because that's their only go to.


One is Alaska and one is Arkansas. We are taking your toys. They are a needless indulgence.
 
2022-07-05 11:12:16 PM  
should have Dr Oz describe in medical detail what the bullet from an AR-15 does to human body
 
2022-07-05 11:13:55 PM  
Thousands of whiney man-children, who were never going to vote for Fetterman in the first place, are about to descend on the internet claiming that he just lost their support.
 
2022-07-05 11:14:21 PM  
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2022-07-05 11:14:58 PM  

mojo_the_helper_monkey: Thousands of whiney man-children, who were never going to vote for Fetterman in the first place, are about to descend on the internet claiming that he just lost their support.


I see you're familiar with Pennsytucky too.
 
2022-07-05 11:16:18 PM  

kkinnison: should have Dr Oz describe in medical detail what the bullet from an AR-15 does to human body


It feels like Oz should be dermatologist to the stars or something:
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2022-07-05 11:17:31 PM  

Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]


I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do
 
2022-07-05 11:19:20 PM  

Zombie DJ: He probably just got  1,000 emails from gun humpers asking him to define what an AK and AR are because that's their only go to.


I'd say more likely he got death threats because that's the Reich wing go to nowadays.
 
2022-07-05 11:19:59 PM  

kkinnison: should have Dr Oz describe in medical detail what the bullet from an AR-15 does to human body


So the manchildren will have something to masturbate to, or because Oz'll downplay or dismiss the question without answering in order not to lose their vote?
 
2022-07-05 11:20:21 PM  

Your Hind Brain: "We cannot and must not become numb to this ever-increasing gun violence,"

We have been since Columbine etc.

/And before...I know.


Yes before. One of the girls I went to HS had her mother killed in a mass shooting at a postal facility in the 1980's. St. Louis, I think.

Also had the McDonald's mass shooting in the 80's in California (maybe late 70's)

Hell, Lynyrd Skynyrd in the mid 70's sang about the Saturday night special .38 revolver being a handgun made for killing. We have gone way beyond weapons like that into mass killing weapons.

Damn, I'm old and I've never seen such violence and weaponry. I could literally walk in a gun store tomorrow and buy a weapon that could lay waste to dozens. Ridiculous.
 
2022-07-05 11:20:29 PM  

HighOnCraic: Fetterman understands that with great power comes great responsibility.


Thanks to you my brain is now providing the spider-man theme, but "fetter" instead of "spider."

I hate you.
 
2022-07-05 11:20:36 PM  

raerae1980: Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]

I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do


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2022-07-05 11:21:18 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


Yes. Not doing that seems to be working out great, right?
 
2022-07-05 11:22:39 PM  

Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]


He would make a great Klingon if Nutrek hadn't turned them into goofy rage monsters.
 
2022-07-05 11:23:34 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


You mean a majority of Americans? Also people on Earth. And most gods.
 
2022-07-05 11:23:36 PM  

HighOnCraic: Fetterman understands that with great power comes great responsibility.


That explains why he wants the cops to have all the guns, I guess.
 
2022-07-05 11:24:51 PM  

Your Hind Brain: "We cannot and must not become numb to this ever-increasing gun violence,"

We have been since Columbine etc.

/And before...I know.


Yeah, I think this downplays how pervasive and insidious gun culture has become.
 
2022-07-05 11:26:27 PM  

raerae1980: Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]

I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do


Can you elaborate? Curious.
 
2022-07-05 11:26:32 PM  

JK8Fan: Your Hind Brain: "We cannot and must not become numb to this ever-increasing gun violence,"

We have been since Columbine etc.

/And before...I know.

Yes before. One of the girls I went to HS had her mother killed in a mass shooting at a postal facility in the 1980's. St. Louis, I think.

Also had the McDonald's mass shooting in the 80's in California (maybe late 70's)

Hell, Lynyrd Skynyrd in the mid 70's sang about the Saturday night special .38 revolver being a handgun made for killing. We have gone way beyond weapons like that into mass killing weapons.

Damn, I'm old and I've never seen such violence and weaponry. I could literally walk in a gun store tomorrow and buy a weapon that could lay waste to dozens. Ridiculous.


Oh yeah, there was that guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
When we were kids and saw it on TV.
 
2022-07-05 11:26:45 PM  

austerity101: Isn't this exactly what people get mad at Beto O'Rourke for doing?


The "good guy with a gun" and "let's fund the police!" arguments have been busted by the tragedy in Uvalde.
 
2022-07-05 11:27:19 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


It's risky, but I think he is smart enough to explain his reasoning without coming across as an elitist gun-grabber.
 
2022-07-05 11:27:49 PM  

raerae1980: Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]

I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do


I thought they were birthmarks and he was born that wai
 
2022-07-05 11:27:58 PM  

Zombie DJ: He probably just got  1,000 emails from gun humpers asking him to define what an AK and AR are because that's their only go to.


Clip! Magazine! Clip! Magazine! BLEAARUGH VOMIT ROFLSTOMPLE
 
2022-07-05 11:28:25 PM  
Classify all semi-automatic firearms as NFA Title II firearms.  That'll solve all of your mass shooting issues.

Folks will do just fine with bolt-action rifles and break-action shotguns.  I know I do.
 
2022-07-05 11:28:53 PM  

austerity101: Isn't this exactly what people get mad at Beto O'Rourke for doing?


In Texas.
 
2022-07-05 11:30:09 PM  

Dinjiin: Classify all semi-automatic firearms as NFA Title II firearms.  That'll solve all of your mass shooting issues.

Folks will do just fine with bolt-action rifles and break-action shotguns.  I know I do.


I'd love to see a series of "Aren't you MAN enough...?" ads along these lines.
 
2022-07-05 11:30:12 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


Newsflash, he was never going to get the votes you're saying he lost.
 
2022-07-05 11:30:15 PM  

Zombie DJ: He probably just got  1,000 emails from gun humpers asking him to define what an AK and AR are because that's their only go to.


It would be defining what an assault rifle is, because AR and AK series weapons aren't assault weapons.  There isn't any such thing.  The reason the cult on the right likes pointing it out is because it's true.  Ban pistol grips, flash suppressors, collapsible stocks, bayonet lugs, or fire selectors all you want.  None of that affects lethality (unless you were gonna stab 20 people with it).

Ban ARs.  Non "AR-style" weapons are exactly the same gun (calibur, capacity, fire rate) and you would 100% not know.

Or be like NY.  Ban Kevlar.  Ban it without looking up that it hasn't been in circulation for decades.  Leave actual armor untouched.

77% of Americans want effective gun control restrictions.  Americans are by and large extremely uneducated about firearms.  Creating more black markets and ineffective bans is just giving NRA shills more (figurative) ammo.

Even if you successfully stopped gun production forever, starting with this comment, we could arm everyone who lives here and a few other small countries besides.  Pandora's box is open.  You can't close it by just saying "No".
 
2022-07-05 11:30:49 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


The unfortunate reality is that yesterday's shooting was not an outlier," said the Democratic candidate, who is currently serving as Pennsylvania's lieutenant governor. "Just several weekends ago in Philadelphia, three people were killed and 12 were shot in one of the city's most vibrant areas, which is a stark reminder that no one and nowhere is immune to gun violence. And while these shootings receive national attention, they pale in comparison to the relentless gun violence afflicting people in their neighborhoods every day."
"We cannot and must not become numb to this ever-increasing gun violence," he continued. "Washington needs to act and take on the NRA by shutting down and prosecuting gun dealers whose weapons routinely wind up at crime scenes. Democrats in the Senate need to scrap the filibuster and immediately pass common-sense reform like universal background checks for all gun sales and a ban on military-grade assault weapons and high capacity magazines."


Well, that's not a bad hill to die on, imho.
 
2022-07-05 11:32:44 PM  

GoldSpider: austerity101: Isn't this exactly what people get mad at Beto O'Rourke for doing?

In Texas.


Yeah, a state substantially more liberal than central PA
 
2022-07-05 11:33:56 PM  
Hmmm... Republicans tell me we need assault weapons to protect freedom, but those same Republicans also talk about shooting liberals and other Republicans for having different ideas than they do.

Hmmm.  I guess I'll have to vote Republican.  Why does this rain smell like piss?
 
2022-07-05 11:34:03 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: GoldSpider: austerity101: Isn't this exactly what people get mad at Beto O'Rourke for doing?

In Texas.

Yeah, a state substantially more liberal than central PA


So where do ya want me to start with this?
 
2022-07-05 11:34:45 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


Or maybe centrist democrats have to admit that they have more in common with the gun nuts than they do with anyone on the left.

Maybe.
 
2022-07-05 11:34:53 PM  

halfjack: raerae1980: Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]

I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do

Can you elaborate? Curious.


Looks like his postal code and dates of tragedies that happened on his watch.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/15/us-mayor-postcode-tattoo
 
2022-07-05 11:35:47 PM  

halfjack: raerae1980: Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]

I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do

Can you elaborate? Curious.


Wikipedia says of his time as the Braddock mayor:

Fetterman has several tattoos related to the Braddock community. On his left arm are the numbers 15104 - Braddock's ZIP Code, and on the right, the dates of five murders that occurred in the town while he was mayor.[20]

/but I'm pretty sure it's just Antifa gang tats
//gods, I hope he wins
///big balls and actually gives a fark
 
2022-07-05 11:36:28 PM  

MrPoopyPants: halfjack: raerae1980: Be polite walk on the right: [bodyartguru.com image 850x478]

I bet most folks dont get the significance of those tats.

/sadly, i do

Can you elaborate? Curious.

Wikipedia says of his time as the Braddock mayor:

Fetterman has several tattoos related to the Braddock community. On his left arm are the numbers 15104 - Braddock's ZIP Code, and on the right, the dates of five murders that occurred in the town while he was mayor.[20]

/but I'm pretty sure it's just Antifa gang tats
//gods, I hope he wins
///big balls and actually gives a fark


I'm moving to PA and I can't wait to vote for him and Shapiro!
 
2022-07-05 11:37:52 PM  

Rhymes With Silver: Zombie DJ: He probably just got  1,000 emails from gun humpers asking him to define what an AK and AR are because that's their only go to.

One is Alaska and one is Arkansas. We are taking your toys. They are a needless indulgence.


So is 99% of everything in America. You're going to have to find a better brand of edginess.
 
2022-07-05 11:37:57 PM  

fastfxr: And just like Beto, he's going to lose for this statement. Why are Dems so goddamn stupid???  Sure, it's a great statement to make to your base, but when you need votes from others, pissing the 'others' off is a really, really fatal move.


Right?  Especially when the position you're taking is the one that's actually popular! Better keep that shiat on the down low!!!
 
2022-07-05 11:38:59 PM  

mojo_the_helper_monkey: Thousands of whiney man-children, who were never going to vote for Fetterman in the first place, are about to descend on the internet claiming that he just lost their support.


He can just tell them about the time he held an innocent unarmed black man at gunpoint.  That should win back some votes.
 
2022-07-05 11:39:20 PM  

Mrtraveler01: I'm moving to PA...


I'm so sorry.
 
2022-07-05 11:39:51 PM  

Abox: mojo_the_helper_monkey: Thousands of whiney man-children, who were never going to vote for Fetterman in the first place, are about to descend on the internet claiming that he just lost their support.

He can just tell them about the time he held an innocent unarmed black man at gunpoint.  That should win back some votes.


That's the angle "Real Progressives" took against Fetterman in the primaries.
 
2022-07-05 11:40:21 PM  
Good
 
2022-07-05 11:41:32 PM  

GoldSpider: Abox: mojo_the_helper_monkey: Thousands of whiney man-children, who were never going to vote for Fetterman in the first place, are about to descend on the internet claiming that he just lost their support.

He can just tell them about the time he held an innocent unarmed black man at gunpoint.  That should win back some votes.

That's the angle "Real Progressives" took against Fetterman in the primaries.


Dude's got universal appeal.
 
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