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(The Verge)   Cloud OS purveyors tout cloud gaming, say you can now play your favorite AAA games on any device, including your phone. Never mind that in the real world no one can play AAA games on a phone, just say it with me: CLOUD GAMING   (theverge.com) divider line
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2022-07-05 5:49:09 PM  
So her primary complaints are:

1. Crappy controls on a phone if she doesn't pack a ...
2. Clunky controller accessory;
3. Battery drain on her phone and the risk of losing the use of her phone until it's charged.

As directly opposed to:

1. Packing a much bigger, much clunkier Steam Deck ALONG WITH her phone
2. She still needs to have her phone operating as a hotspot if there's no 'free' or otherwise fast wifi to connect to
3. She doesn't even remark on playing local games on the Deck, she's still referring to playing cloud games with all of their downsides.

Her only even vaguely valid concern is losing her phone's battery charge after some gaming on the go, and in virtually any airport or similar situation you could plug in somewhere. Hell, an Anker powerpack would solve the problem too. A Razer Kishi and an Anker powerpack together would likely be cheaper (and less clunky to carry) than a steam deck and provide a perfectly cromulent cloud gaming experience with virtually any phone.
 
2022-07-05 6:19:52 PM  
But enough about Final Fantasy 7
 
2022-07-05 6:49:19 PM  
I don't want to play a AAA game on my phone. The screen is tiny, and controls are at best going to be "OK" if I'm lucky.

But I do like gamestreaming... just from my PC to other devices. Fark your cloud service.
 
2022-07-05 6:58:21 PM  
If you're not playing Diablo Immortal, well, then you're not really gaming.
 
2022-07-05 6:59:46 PM  
What's a AAA game? If Red Dead Redemption 2, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, Halo, or Gears of War count, then subby is confused, because she tried all of those on her phone, so I'm not sure if you read your own article.
 
2022-07-05 7:25:04 PM  
You're focused on phones, subby, what about those of us who can't afford top-of-the-line gaming PCs, hmmm?
 
2022-07-05 7:36:32 PM  
Who the hell plays a game about roadside assistance, let alone play it on your phone?
 
2022-07-05 7:52:30 PM  
So basically a long ad for the steam deck?
 
2022-07-05 9:23:10 PM  
If this is the next gold rush I guess I'll just keep on selling shovels.
 
2022-07-05 11:04:17 PM  
Streaming is unplayably laggy at the best of times. It doesn't matter how many servers you have hosting the games when people need to go through Comcast to get to them.
 
2022-07-05 11:23:10 PM  
The only "cloud gaming" I'm doing is Land of Devestation or Trade Wars 2002.
 
2022-07-06 3:27:35 AM  

evader: So her primary complaints are:

1. Crappy controls on a phone if she doesn't pack a ...
2. Clunky controller accessory;
3. Battery drain on her phone and the risk of losing the use of her phone until it's charged.

As directly opposed to:

1. Packing a much bigger, much clunkier Steam Deck ALONG WITH her phone
2. She still needs to have her phone operating as a hotspot if there's no 'free' or otherwise fast wifi to connect to
3. She doesn't even remark on playing local games on the Deck, she's still referring to playing cloud games with all of their downsides.

Her only even vaguely valid concern is losing her phone's battery charge after some gaming on the go, and in virtually any airport or similar situation you could plug in somewhere. Hell, an Anker powerpack would solve the problem too. A Razer Kishi and an Anker powerpack together would likely be cheaper (and less clunky to carry) than a steam deck and provide a perfectly cromulent cloud gaming experience with virtually any phone.


Ok.

What is your analysis of the same? With 3G and 2 bars?
 
2022-07-06 8:11:39 AM  
I've been using Shadow for the past few months and I'm pretty happy with it as I've not updated my gaming rig in like a decade.  I like Shadow as its pretty much my own PC.  Im not library limited like some of the other streaming services.  I mostly play single player games but just need a beefier PC to drive the better graphics.   Don't sit around enough in places on my phone to worry about playing on that.
 
2022-07-06 12:04:26 PM  

Valter: evader: So her primary complaints are:

1. Crappy controls on a phone if she doesn't pack a ...
2. Clunky controller accessory;
3. Battery drain on her phone and the risk of losing the use of her phone until it's charged.

As directly opposed to:

1. Packing a much bigger, much clunkier Steam Deck ALONG WITH her phone
2. She still needs to have her phone operating as a hotspot if there's no 'free' or otherwise fast wifi to connect to
3. She doesn't even remark on playing local games on the Deck, she's still referring to playing cloud games with all of their downsides.

Her only even vaguely valid concern is losing her phone's battery charge after some gaming on the go, and in virtually any airport or similar situation you could plug in somewhere. Hell, an Anker powerpack would solve the problem too. A Razer Kishi and an Anker powerpack together would likely be cheaper (and less clunky to carry) than a steam deck and provide a perfectly cromulent cloud gaming experience with virtually any phone.

Ok.

What is your analysis of the same? With 3G and 2 bars?


Not sure where you're coming from.

Assuming crap/no reception, AND no free wifi, then cloud gaming is unfeasible, period. Sure, the Steam Deck is a superior gaming device for actually playing PC games directly on it; that was never in question. But that's not what the article was about. Likewise, there are plenty of phone-games that do not require lots of bandwidth to enjoy; but the article isn't about those either.

A Steam Deck as a dedicated cloud gaming device is a total waste of cash (and space) if you already own a decent smartphone, IMHO, for the reasons I gave above. As an independent console, knock yourself out; I don't know offhand how it compares to a Switch, size-wise.

As the device I use the most, I make sure to have a nice phone. As the thing I have on me when standing in a line or otherwise waiting during moments on the go, I make sure the phone has games to amuse me in addition to other distractions and apps. I also make a point to have a few 'offline ok' games on there for bad reception spots.  As a guy that does not carry a purse, if it's not chilly and I have no jacket, I'd have to go out of my way to bring my Razer Kishi for a controller interface. Even then, it would only be worth bothering with if I seriously expected to be sitting there for a while, like getting an oil change or tire swap.

And finally, even with 5G full bars, cloud gaming still has latency. I would only bother with it outside of ideal circumstances for turn based stuff or other less action-intense things where latency wouldn't be a factor. (Civilization, etc). That's what I find most silly about the idea; you can compress the video feed all you want to conserve bandwidth, but it is impossible to defeat latency.

I am either making a quick trip and my phone alone will sustain me, or I am 'loading for bear' and am ready to plug into an outlet and stick it out for the long haul. If I am actually going into a zero reception zone for an extended time, I might shrug and bring my Switch, if whatever I have on my phone won't keep me amused long enough.

(Mihoyo would have gotten SO MUCH of my money if they just allowed controllers to work with Genshin Impact on Android)
 
2022-07-06 10:32:41 PM  
I've been poking at the cloud gaming options on XBox Game Pass, and I don't know if it's the fact that Apple forces all the data through a web browser or the tech just isn't there yet, but it's not exactly a smooth experience.

And my router <-> ISP connection is no slouch, it's just shy of 1 gigabit. WiFi connections are obviously less than that, but if I'm less than a foot from the router...


/It's a good idea, but it needs a few more years of development
 
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