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(History Channel)   On this day in history, in 1921, the Chicago White Sox were accused of playing like the Cubs   (history.com) divider line
    More: Vintage, 1919 World Series, Black Sox Scandal, Chicago White Sox, major league baseball players, World Series, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis, Chicago White Sox players  
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2022-07-05 4:40:05 PM  
This lead directly to the appointment of Kenesaw Mountain Landis as baseballs first commissioner.  Every fan should read up on him because controversial(and racist) as he was, Landis made positive changes to the game that are still felt today.
 
2022-07-05 5:08:29 PM  
And just shy of 101 years later, the White Sox became the first team to be subject to an 8-5 triple play.
 
2022-07-05 5:19:47 PM  
Amusingly enough, the Chicago Cubs were rumored to have thrown the 1918 World Series.
 
2022-07-05 5:52:43 PM  
The odd part is the entire 1920 season was played with everyone waiting for the other shoe to drop.   The White Sox were in first place a lot that season, with Cleveland close behind and everyone watching the wheels of justice start to turn slowly.   When it was clear that most of the White Sox players would be out, the team slumped badly, helping Cleveland to their first WS berth.   I'm a Tribe fan from way back, but the 1920 WS deserves an asterisk.   They were not the best team in the AL.
 
2022-07-05 6:42:30 PM  
Some people say Joe Jackson couldn't have thrown any games, he hit .375. Sure he could have. What was the situation when he got hits vs when he didn't. There are lots of ways to throw a game without making it look like you're throwing the game.
 
2022-07-05 9:05:54 PM  

The5thElement: Some people say Joe Jackson couldn't have thrown any games, he hit .375. Sure he could have. What was the situation when he got hits vs when he didn't. There are lots of ways to throw a game without making it look like you're throwing the game.


As proven by the NCAA point shaving scandal.
 
2022-07-05 9:37:05 PM  

Flappyhead: This lead directly to the appointment of Kenesaw Mountain Landis as baseballs first commissioner.  Every fan should read up on him because controversial(and racist) as he was, Landis made positive changes to the game that are still felt today.


Landis was the main reason we got rid of Ban Johnson, which was good because Johnson was one of the main reasons for the Curse of the Bambino, See, Harry Frazee was the first owner in the then-15 year history of the AL that Johnson hadn't personally approved; prior to this all the owners (and over half the teams had changed ownership at least once by then) were people Ban approved of, including himself. So when Frazee sold off a player (Carl Mays) to the Yankees rather than suspend him like Ban ordered, it basically turned into a civil war, with the Red Sox, Yankees and White Sox (run by Charlie Comiskey, who hated Ban for meddling in a deal for a player during WWI) on one side, and everyone else on the other side.

The practical effect of this is that it became very hard (though apparently not impossible) for any of the three "Insurrectos" to deal with the other five teams (and dealing with the NL was just not done). The Black Sox scandal complicated this even more, because since Comiskey was in the midst of that he couldn't get the money to do deals with the Sox and Yankees, meaning the two of them were essentially on their own. Frazee at the time was hemorrhaging money due to a variety of factors, not the least of which being when he bought the team he didn't buy Fenway with it, which meant he had to spend money to buy it afterwards and put himself way behind with money because of it. So he was stuck, mortgaging stuff left and right to keep the team afloat, so he basically had to sell to the Yankees to get any chance of keeping the team alive. In fact, when the Yankees won their first World Series, it was with a team led by 8 starters that were former Sox (4 position players and 4 out of their 5 starting pitchers).

\Ironically, the feud between Comiskey and Johnson led to Johnson not getting involved at first when Comiskey admitted he had a problem with the 1919 team, which led to Johnson's decline in influence and Landis's ascendancy
 
2022-07-05 10:16:06 PM  
But the Cubs are allegedly trying to win games.
 
2022-07-05 11:05:03 PM  
God my guys are an underachieving sack of suck so far this season.
 
2022-07-06 4:57:59 AM  

Flappyhead: This lead directly to the appointment of Kenesaw Mountain Landis as baseballs first commissioner.  Every fan should read up on him because controversial(and racist) as he was, Landis made positive changes to the game that are still felt today.


I was randomly watching 42 yesterday and it got me to do some reading.

I never really knew much about Landis other than his role in the aftermath of the Black Sox. I certainly didn't realize that he was such a critical pillar of racism in the sport and that his death directly lead to the fall of the colour barrier by giving Rickey the leeway to sign Robinson.

The heavy handed, overbearing Landis was probably exactly what MLB needed in the 1920s and so much of what MLB is today is covered with his fingerprints so, as a baseball fan, I have a great deal of respect for him. But I have to believe the sport (and broader society) would have been better off with him being put out to pasture a decade earlier.
 
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