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(NPR)   Faith and Freedom coalition founder Ralph Reed is on a mission to make the white evangelical movement less white, most likely through wearing blackface   (npr.org) divider line
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2022-07-05 10:25:37 AM  
The funny thing about religions is that they cannot abide another religion to exist. The mere existence of another religion is an existential threat - it creates the impression that you could be wrong - so the opposition must be eliminated.

This is why separation of church and state is so important.  If the white Christians are allowed to take over the US government, sooner or later they must turn their attention to the Catholic and Islam religions and begin wiping them out. The Gulf Wars were a start on Islam.  But sooner or later there will be Protestant / Catholic fighting just like during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
 
2022-07-05 10:33:58 AM  
Might work better, if your congregations weren't chanting "you will not replace us!" And cheering cops on when they shoot darker folks.
 
2022-07-05 10:55:00 AM  
The white people in the pews are not gonna like that. They just won't.
 
2022-07-05 11:12:42 AM  
Realizing they need people to replace the kids leaving the faith
 
2022-07-05 11:32:47 AM  
They are finally realizing what Bush tried to tell them 20 years ago... Your future lies in capturing the Hispanic vote, or enough of them to secure the votes you need to hold power.

These people know exactly what they are doing.
 
2022-07-05 11:42:03 AM  

NewportBarGuy: They are finally realizing what Bush tried to tell them 20 years ago... Your future lies in capturing the Hispanic vote, or enough of them to secure the votes you need to hold power.

These people know exactly what they are doing.


The Right is going to go for the Latino males who like everything the Right likes except the straight up anti-Latino bashing
Bonus points for people who want to close the border behind them(like so many immigrants before them, yes I'm looking at the sons of Italy and Ireland)
 
2022-07-05 12:13:56 PM  

spongeboob: NewportBarGuy: They are finally realizing what Bush tried to tell them 20 years ago... Your future lies in capturing the Hispanic vote, or enough of them to secure the votes you need to hold power.

These people know exactly what they are doing.

The Right is going to go for the Latino males who like everything the Right likes except the straight up anti-Latino bashing
Bonus points for people who want to close the border behind them(like so many immigrants before them, yes I'm looking at the sons of Italy and Ireland)


Plus you have the very seldom talked about fight for top minority group among the Black and Latino communities... the Republicans will allow them to have some positions of minor to mid-tier power, some governorships and Senate seats.

As whitey gets reduced in size as a percentage of the whole, the move is pretty obvious.

And closing the border... lol.. exactly. It was every group that got here and was like "NO! STAY OUT!" Then they realized they needed cheap labor and were like, "Hey where are all those nasty sickos we tried to keep out? We need them to work our fields and build our sh*t!"

Democrats need to do a better job threading the needle on reaching out to the Latino community and realizing the importance of the Black community in the internal party structure. It's not an easy balancing act. But, nothing in politics is easy...
 
2022-07-05 12:38:03 PM  
Ok, fine, we'll take the Latinas, and when the chancla get flying, we'll see who wins.

/Respect the chancla.
 
2022-07-05 12:38:25 PM  
"The right-wing of the Republican party isn't so much a political agenda as a plea for help."-Larry Flynt
 
2022-07-05 12:38:29 PM  
Whoever told this woman that the dress with the red Christmas bow on her belly was a good choice or made her look amazing should be slapped.

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2022-07-05 12:39:20 PM  
Religion is basically a computer virus. That's how I see it.

So when I see these discussions about "spreading faith" and "bringing back God", all I really hear is "we need to infect our children with the virus so that they think like us" in some slithering snake voice.

And then people wonder why I'm hostile to religion.
 
2022-07-05 12:43:01 PM  
He's hoping they hate the gays and trans people more than white nationalists.
 
2022-07-05 12:44:48 PM  
It sure would be great to have tax-exempt faith institutions in the United States who didn't openly and defiantly of the 1st Amendment loudly declare their intention to involve themselves in politics.
 
2022-07-05 12:50:18 PM  

edmo: The white people in the pews are not gonna like that. They just won't.


Well, not if "they" are in leadership jobs... they can continue to clean the bathrooms and empty wastebins.

Sid Vicious' Corpse: The funny thing about religions is that they cannot abide another religion to exist. The mere existence of another religion is an existential threat - it creates the impression that you could be wrong - so the opposition must be eliminated.


Indeed. Still, the Catholics, Baptists, and others will continue voting Republican until their stormtroopers show up to forcibly convert them to the "right" bloody cult of Abraham. They're just going to hope they're the ones issuing the orders to the fascist foot soldiers.
 
2022-07-05 12:51:24 PM  
I will never understand the Black church in America. Taking on the oppressor's religion is the last thing I wanna do. We can talk about historical community foundations and all that, but that time has long passed, and the Black community needs to break the Church's grip, otherwise there is a very real chance this approach works just long enough to matter. BLM is incompatible with Christofacism.
 
2022-07-05 12:51:29 PM  
 
2022-07-05 12:55:54 PM  
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2022-07-05 12:58:38 PM  

Fern Crest: Whoever told this woman that the dress with the red Christmas bow on her belly was a good choice or made her look amazing should be slapped.

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Well, you see, disliking the LGBT community does lead to a certain difficulty finding hair stylists and so on.
 
2022-07-05 12:58:50 PM  
I'd like to see Ralph Reed get fed into a wood chipper.
 
2022-07-05 1:01:32 PM  
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2022-07-05 1:02:03 PM  
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2022-07-05 1:03:14 PM  

Sid Vicious' Corpse: The funny thing about religions is that they cannot abide another religion to exist. The mere existence of another religion is an existential threat - it creates the impression that you could be wrong - so the opposition must be eliminated.

This is why separation of church and state is so important.  If the white Christians are allowed to take over the US government, sooner or later they must turn their attention to the Catholic and Islam religions and begin wiping them out. The Gulf Wars were a start on Islam.  But sooner or later there will be Protestant / Catholic fighting just like during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.


You misspelled "Christianity" there, boss.

There are plenty of religions - even "Abrahamic" ones (he said, self-referentially) - which do not have "supremacy" built into the dogma. I grant you that none of them is anywhere near "hegemon" status like Christianity is in America, but your brush is nonetheless overly broad.
 
2022-07-05 1:04:07 PM  
The religious right has always been part of the problem:

The Christian right itself was to later identify the issue of abortion as the decisive factor in their decision to become politically organised and active, but this is not true. It was the desegregation of state schools which led to a massive withdrawal of white children from the state sector and to a massive expansion of private whites-only Christian schools across the South and the Midwest. According to one account, in the 1970s, "evangelicals and fundamentalists began constructing new private schools at the rate of two a day", so that by 1979 there were some 5,000 with "more than 1 million students".

The founder of the Moral Majority, Jerry Falwell, a strong supporter of segregation at this time, was part of this movement, setting up his own all-white school to serve his own all-white church congregation in Lynchburg, Virginia. He condemned integration as something that the "true negro does not want", claiming that he could "see the hand of Moscow in the background" and that it was all the work of the "Devil himself".39 Indeed, the "Hamites were", he insisted, "cursed to be servants of the Jews and Gentiles" and if segregation were ended "God will punish us for it".40 Falwell was himself, on one occasion, confronted by civil rights protesters when a group of white and black Christians staged a "kneel-in" at his church, demanding he integrate, and he had the police evict them.41 There was also a massive rise in Christian home schooling. What politicised this movement though was the 1978 decision of the Inland Revenue Service (IRS) to remove tax exemption from private schools that were segregated.
 
2022-07-05 1:07:01 PM  
Reminder that Ralph Reed was a fellow criminal in Jack Abramoff's lobbying set up. Abramoff would lobby for the Native tribes about casino issues. Reed was the one who would coordinate the Fundies to vote/petition politicians to do what Abramoff wanted them to do. Abramoff got popped because he was double crossing his clients. Reed was just being the usual two faced evangelical using his followers as the useful idiots they are, so he managed to avoid any charges.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/09/the-deceptions-of-ralph-reed/63568/
 
2022-07-05 1:07:05 PM  
Latino people have long since been "honorary white" for republicans - as long as they hold the same ideology, they can get a pass. This sort of thing has happened before, in the US to the Irish and Italians, in Brazil more recently many right wing people starting calling themselves "white" where they hadn't before.

It's been very clear to me for a while that they're going after the religious nuts and the people with a conservative mindset (patriarchal, anti-gay, etc). They've made very limited inroads into Black America because their racism is so strong but they can move the okay/not okay line a bit for the Latinos.
 
2022-07-05 1:12:17 PM  
I've long been of the opinion that there are a host of ethnic minorities in the US whose values align much more closely to those of the right wing & would happily side with them if not for their unmitigated racial bigotry.

& now the right is mitigating it.
 
2022-07-05 1:15:19 PM  

Sid Vicious' Corpse: The funny thing about religions is that they cannot abide another religion to exist. The mere existence of another religion is an existential threat to their share of the collection plate and tax benefits- it creates the impression that you could be wrong - so the opposition must be eliminated.

This is why separation of church and state is so important.  If the white Christians are allowed to take over the US government, sooner or later they must turn their attention to the Catholic and Islam religions and begin wiping them out. The Gulf Wars were a start on Islam.  But sooner or later there will be Protestant / Catholic fighting just like during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.


I want these people to name which church should be in charge. If they want a war, it should be between themselves. Leave the normal people out of it.
 
2022-07-05 1:21:29 PM  
make sure you wave your hand around the right way or god will ignore you
 
2022-07-05 1:21:34 PM  
Trying to recruit more self-hating POC like Uncle Thomas?
 
2022-07-05 1:22:40 PM  
Learn from the log cabin Republicans. These people hate you. As long as you do a song and dance for them and repeat their talking points they won't shoot you for the moment. But these people have made their hatred for minorities loud and clear. They will get around to throwing you under the bus. At the very least.

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2022-07-05 1:24:01 PM  

spongeboob: NewportBarGuy: They are finally realizing what Bush tried to tell them 20 years ago... Your future lies in capturing the Hispanic vote, or enough of them to secure the votes you need to hold power.

These people know exactly what they are doing.

The Right is going to go for the Latino males who like everything the Right likes except the straight up anti-Latino bashing


This feels like a double negative.
Or something that happens inside the Large Hadron Collider.
 
2022-07-05 1:25:23 PM  

Fern Crest: Whoever told this woman that the dress with the red Christmas bow on her belly was a good choice or made her look amazing should be slapped.

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That's an Acme Jesus Wave Conductor™
 
2022-07-05 1:32:53 PM  

Sid Vicious' Corpse: The funny thing about religions is that they cannot abide another religion to exist. The mere existence of another religion is an existential threat - it creates the impression that you could be wrong - so the opposition must be eliminated.

This is why separation of church and state is so important.  If the white Christians are allowed to take over the US government, sooner or later they must turn their attention to the Catholic and Islam religions and begin wiping them out. The Gulf Wars were a start on Islam.  But sooner or later there will be Protestant / Catholic fighting just like during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.


I am with George Carlin on this, let the. Have their Holy Wars, and kill each other. I saw it firsthand in Belfast. Religionism is a cancer on goodwill, and not being a shiate. It turns normal people into the worst types of "humans." And, they feel vindicated by invisible voices from the sky.
If youmare wondering if you are in a cultt, or not, just see if they are trying to trick you, or, your family, into thinking absolute shiate is "real." I went to Churches that acted like there was a historical basis for Jesus. Once I showed them to be liars, I was se[aerated from the group. The only thing religion is good for is starting wars and inspiring fetish gear for porn.
 
2022-07-05 1:32:57 PM  
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2022-07-05 1:34:29 PM  
This asshole is still around?

Evil never dies.
 
2022-07-05 1:36:10 PM  
"touch more voters at the door". can't these people control their pre-vert tendencies even for 5 minutes?
 
2022-07-05 1:40:08 PM  

Lochsteppe: spongeboob: NewportBarGuy: They are finally realizing what Bush tried to tell them 20 years ago... Your future lies in capturing the Hispanic vote, or enough of them to secure the votes you need to hold power.

These people know exactly what they are doing.

The Right is going to go for the Latino males who like everything the Right likes except the straight up anti-Latino bashing

This feels like a double negative.
Or something that happens inside the Large Hadron Collider.


IDK I think Merriam would be okay with that usage
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/double-negative-not-adjective-litotes
 
2022-07-05 1:51:26 PM  
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2022-07-05 2:21:50 PM  
Yeah but we're talking about a country that thinks Spaniards and Mexicans aren't white. All he has to do is add more white people from the white people he keeps in the surplus white people pool.
 
2022-07-05 2:55:24 PM  
Old school:


As the Christian Crusade ministry increasingly reached into mailboxes and across airwaves, its message became more threatening to the civil rights movement. The FBI questioned Hargis over his involvement in the Arkansas school bombing plot and continued to monitor his activities. Hargis told his followers that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was a communist plot; he published a book called The Negro Question: Communist Civil War Policy, in which the author warned that "communists are deliberately maneuvering among the American Negroes to create a situation for the outbreak of racial violence"; he believed segregation was "one of God's natural laws"; he called Martin Luther King, Jr. a communist-educated traitor and an "Uncle Tom for special interests."

Despite the patronizing attitudes that Hargis held against African Americans, he publicly asserted he was not a racist.
[Bless his heart!!!]

It wasn't until Hargis joined forces with former Major General Edwin Walker, however, that racial bigotry became a common  characteristic of the religious right.

https://thislandpress.com/2012/11/02/the-strange-love-of-dr-billy-james-hargis/
 
2022-07-05 3:00:39 PM  
Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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2022-07-05 3:15:50 PM  

Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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Yes a shaitty 2004 Wayans' Brothers comedy is quite topical.
 
2022-07-05 3:36:07 PM  
The only thing I know about this guy is that I went to college with him, and he was a douchebag then.  The head of the college Jesus Republicans, or something.
I did not know that he was  fired from the UGA newspaper for plagarism.  Such a Republican.
 
2022-07-05 3:46:49 PM  

Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

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/Get off my lawn!!!
 
2022-07-05 3:55:06 PM  

HighOnCraic: Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

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/Get off my lawn!!!


I'll raise you...

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No, get off mylawn!
 
2022-07-05 3:59:38 PM  

Fart_Machine: HighOnCraic: Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

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/Get off my lawn!!!

I'll raise you...

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No, get off mylawn!


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/Any photos from an Elizabethan Era production would be the same, theoretically...
 
2022-07-05 4:02:46 PM  

HighOnCraic: Fart_Machine: HighOnCraic: Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

[s.yimg.com image 640x449]

/Get off my lawn!!!

I'll raise you...

[bionicdisco.com image 835x455]

No, get off mylawn!

[media-amazon.com image 345x500]

/Any photos from an Elizabethan Era production would be the same, theoretically...


Touché.
 
2022-07-05 4:07:18 PM  

Fart_Machine: HighOnCraic: Fart_Machine: HighOnCraic: Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

[i.ebayimg.com image 360x500]

Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

[s.yimg.com image 640x449]

/Get off my lawn!!!

I'll raise you...

[bionicdisco.com image 835x455]

No, get off mylawn!

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/Any photos from an Elizabethan Era production would be the same, theoretically...

Touché.


And Desdemona would have been played by a young boy.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2022-07-05 4:21:27 PM  

HighOnCraic: Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

[i.ebayimg.com image 360x500]

Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

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/Get off my lawn!!!


That movie actually had a point about how doing blackface was hurtful and took away from people who may need things more.

Try again, pretty sure White Chicks doesn't have a hidden moral about how wrong it is to do this.
 
2022-07-05 4:43:08 PM  

Mikey1969: HighOnCraic: Mikey1969: Actually, it's apparently OK now to make yourself artificially look like another race. I mean, I was under the impression it was wrong, but apparently not.

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Look, lots of us here are old.  That doesn't make your point more relevant.

[s.yimg.com image 640x449]

/Get off my lawn!!!

That movie actually had a point about how doing blackface was hurtful and took away from people who may need things more.

Try again, pretty sure White Chicks doesn't have a hidden moral about how wrong it is to do this.


Pretty sure White Chicks is irrelevant to the discussion.  I know--"Welcome to Fark!"
 
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