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2022-07-04 8:14:06 PM  
Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.
 
2022-07-04 11:38:34 PM  
Nice fail pussy
 
2022-07-05 12:11:30 AM  
Another such victory and they are lost.
 
2022-07-05 12:12:03 AM  
Repeat verse same as the first

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2022-07-05 12:12:24 AM  

aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.


This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.
 
2022-07-05 12:13:14 AM  

aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.


I don't think that Pooty really cares as long as it can be portrayed as a victory. He really could have accomplished the same end result with a video claiming victory over the West.
 
2022-07-05 12:13:47 AM  

Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.


Sir, this is a Wendy's.
 
2022-07-05 12:15:59 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Another such victory and they are lost.


Before anyone compares what is happening here to the exploits of Pyrrhus of Epirus....

Pyrrhus actually won his battles. Pooty has, quite spectacularly, done the exact opposite of win.
 
2022-07-05 12:16:58 AM  
I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.
 
2022-07-05 12:17:34 AM  
Rowsdower : Their people ruled this land once.

Mike Nelson : They ruled this one acre for about a week. Nobody knew.
 
2022-07-05 12:18:44 AM  

iheartscotch: Gyrfalcon: Another such victory and they are lost.

Before anyone compares what is happening here to the exploits of Pyrrhus of Epirus....

Pyrrhus actually won his battles. Pooty has, quite spectacularly, done the exact opposite of win.


But that's my favorite comparison to make, because of the similarities in how neither has fresh recruits or allies to draw on, don't ruin it for me.
 
2022-07-05 12:20:24 AM  

invictus2: Repeat verse same as the first

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... A little bit louder, a little bit worse.

/or so it goes
 
2022-07-05 12:22:06 AM  
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2022-07-05 12:26:47 AM  

IgG4: Nice fail pussy


I had one of those back in college, I don't remember it being particularly nice though.
 
2022-07-05 12:27:27 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


The Ewoks didn't settle.
 
2022-07-05 12:28:01 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


Okay Henry Kissinger.

fark Russia.
 
2022-07-05 12:28:05 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


And deprive Russia of a prolonged occupation in a hostile region?  As if.
 
2022-07-05 12:32:22 AM  
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I wonder if Vlad is mad that the guy on the right has more pencils than he does. Then again it's possible that Pooty-poot's fancy pen solidifies his position on the winning side of the writing utensil gap. I'm no expert on megalomania, it's just a thought.
 
2022-07-05 12:33:45 AM  

Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.


Putin has Meal Team 66.

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2022-07-05 12:34:43 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


or maybe they know what its like being under Russia that they wont let that happen to their people
 
2022-07-05 12:36:02 AM  

Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

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The guy in the background has one hell of a faux Adidas jacket....it only has one stripe.
 
2022-07-05 12:39:14 AM  

The_Sponge: Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

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The guy in the background has one hell of a faux Adidas jacket....it only has one stripe.


Three big stripe, comrade. So big, stripe merge. Three big stripe is number one stripe.
 
2022-07-05 12:39:37 AM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: The_Sponge: Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

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The guy in the background has one hell of a faux Adidas jacket....it only has one stripe.

Three big stripe, comrade. So big, stripe merge. Three big stripe is number one stripe.


I chuckled.
 
2022-07-05 12:42:03 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


You do understand that the Russians stated at the beginning that Ukraine doesn't exist, right?  And that they've committed multiple war crimes, and practiced ethnic cleansing on the Ukrainians?

If the Ukrainians give in to Russia, that only means they will try this all over again once they regroup.  See Crimea.
 
2022-07-05 12:47:46 AM  

OrionXVI: EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.

You do understand that the Russians stated at the beginning that Ukraine doesn't exist, right?  And that they've committed multiple war crimes, and practiced ethnic cleansing on the Ukrainians?

If the Ukrainians give in to Russia, that only means they will try this all over again once they regroup.  See Crimea.


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2022-07-05 12:49:22 AM  
FTA: "Two Russian airplanes departed Bulgaria on Sunday with scores of Russian diplomatic staff and their families amid a mass expulsion that has sent tensions soaring between the historically close nations, a Russian diplomat said."

When the Bulgarians PNG your ass...
 
2022-07-05 12:54:45 AM  
Announcing it on the 4th of July was a nice touch.

Putin always was a world-class troll. Fark that guy.
 
2022-07-05 1:04:08 AM  
Sun Tzu said: In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.
 
2022-07-05 1:04:27 AM  

iheartscotch: Gyrfalcon: Another such victory and they are lost.

Before anyone compares what is happening here to the exploits of Pyrrhus of Epirus....

Pyrrhus actually won his battles. Pooty has, quite spectacularly, done the exact opposite of win.


I did call this a Putin Win in his honor... Wait. Should I coin that phrase?
 
2022-07-05 1:08:40 AM  
Considering the original plan was for them to capture Kyiv and install a Putin-backed puppet on Day 3, this isn't the win he thinks it is.
 
2022-07-05 1:17:35 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.

The Ewoks didn't settle.


The problem with that philosophy is that Russia's already broken multiple settlements. Russia signed a treaty not to invade Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up particular weapons. That settlement was broken. Russia annexed Crimea years ago and Zelinsky has even said that that that might actually be a thing, but that was broken. Russia agreed to a ceasefire to get the wounded out of Maripol(?) And then immediately shelled it. That settlement was broken.

This shows that Russia's word cannot be trusted because they don't take their agreements seriously. If Ukraine signs another settlement with Russia, there's nothing stopping Russia from just invading them again tomorrow after they regroup.
 
2022-07-05 1:19:47 AM  

iheartscotch: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

I don't think that Pooty really cares as long as it can be portrayed as a victory. He really could have accomplished the same end result with a video claiming victory over the West.


Short-term victory, maybe. But he's not gonna hit his actual "victory" benchmark until he has all of the Donbas, Crimea, and a land bridge along the south to Transnistria. That's the minimum. Add in the Baltic states (including Finland), plus bringing Georgia and some of the former Eastern Bloc to heel, and we're closer to what he really wants (see Gerard Toal's Near Abroad [2017], among others for reference). I just finished reading that not too long ago...dense, but good.

He likely doesn't have the military strength to pull that off, simply because his calculus regard Western involvement was a bit off, but, that doesn't mean he won't try. In that book Toal essentially said he was going to do this, as Putin has stated as such since as early as August 2008, or, at the latest, not long prior to Sochi in 2014.

Again, I don't think he's got the 'juice' to carry it out and hold it but he clearly has enough drive to aim a bit higher than his on the ground capabilities. I just hope that we can get Ukraine across the finish line.
 
2022-07-05 1:23:16 AM  

Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

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I still cannot get over the fact that picture is real. It's like someone shoved Artie Lange full of foie gras and then he got a role as a general.
 
2022-07-05 1:27:00 AM  

Sim Tree: Bennie Crabtree: EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.

The Ewoks didn't settle.

The problem with that philosophy is that Russia's already broken multiple settlements. Russia signed a treaty not to invade Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up particular weapons. That settlement was broken. Russia annexed Crimea years ago and Zelinsky has even said that that that might actually be a thing, but that was broken. Russia agreed to a ceasefire to get the wounded out of Maripol(?) And then immediately shelled it. That settlement was broken.

This shows that Russia's word cannot be trusted because they don't take their agreements seriously. If Ukraine signs another settlement with Russia, there's nothing stopping Russia from just invading them again tomorrow after they regroup.


Yep. Minsk and Minsk II have been flushed, and that's just the most recent of the settlements. If the world is in this for real, than they cannot stop, as Putin will keep going, or, retrench and try again.
 
2022-07-05 1:30:03 AM  

Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

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I didn't know Russia had manatees. Learn something new every day.
 
2022-07-05 1:35:02 AM  
How long ago was it first reported that Russia was losing the war?
 
2022-07-05 1:38:44 AM  

misanthropicsob: How long ago was it first reported that Russia was losing the war?


How long ago did the war start, -3 days that was predicted for them to take the country?
 
2022-07-05 1:42:06 AM  

aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.


You would think of all people, the Russians would understand this.  One of their classic defenses is to flee and let the enemy invade, then starve.
 
2022-07-05 1:55:17 AM  

urethra_franklin: Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

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I still cannot get over the fact that picture is real. It's like someone shoved Artie Lange full of foie gras and then he got a role as a general.


I don't think they'd even quite finished sobering him up before taking that photo.
 
2022-07-05 1:55:45 AM  

aleister_greynight: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

You would think of all people, the Russians would understand this.  One of their classic defenses is to flee and let the enemy invade, then starve.


That works best in russia because they have the geography for it.

Their other classic maneuver is to send endless dudes to exhaust the enemy soldiers' preset kill limit.
 
2022-07-05 2:07:41 AM  
For a couple months now, the Putinite dogs were barking about how they would encircle Ukraine's forces in the Donbas and thus wipe out the bulk of their military.  Instead, they were held to a grinding frontal assault and the defenders were able to withdraw in a relatively orderly fashion.

Even when Russia wins, it can't do anything right.
 
2022-07-05 2:50:15 AM  
Given the Russian's heavy reliance on artillery, how much do you think is actually left in the cities they "captured"?
 
2022-07-05 3:02:31 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


Another 2003 user I haven't seen around. Welcome back...?
 
2022-07-05 3:05:32 AM  
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2022-07-05 3:10:26 AM  

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2022-07-05 3:45:11 AM  

urethra_franklin: Sim Tree: Bennie Crabtree: EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.

The Ewoks didn't settle.

The problem with that philosophy is that Russia's already broken multiple settlements. Russia signed a treaty not to invade Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up particular weapons. That settlement was broken. Russia annexed Crimea years ago and Zelinsky has even said that that that might actually be a thing, but that was broken. Russia agreed to a ceasefire to get the wounded out of Maripol(?) And then immediately shelled it. That settlement was broken.

This shows that Russia's word cannot be trusted because they don't take their agreements seriously. If Ukraine signs another settlement with Russia, there's nothing stopping Russia from just invading them again tomorrow after they regroup.

Yep. Minsk and Minsk II have been flushed, and that's just the most recent of the settlements. If the world is in this for real, than they cannot stop, as Putin will keep going, or, retrench and try again.


Alright, but all that proves is that the Ewoks were correct to refuse a treaty with the Empire. They didn't even need to invovle the diplomatic corps from Alderaan or Bespin. They knew that the Empire would change the agreement as soon as the heavy walkers and the construction workers landed.

Once the fighting started, the Ewoks switched to a ground game that included towing Imperial speeder bikes and commandeering their AT-STs. The Empire was so bogged down trying to work their supply chains in a forest that the Ewoks were abel tot arget them from above with nearly silent hang gliders, dropping rocks from a safe distance.

I'm telling you, Ewoks simply did not suck. Mostly because they never tried to appease the enemy, like the spacefaring human species always did.

Oh and don't get me started on that time the USA elected Jabba the Hutt, a gangster whose real eastate deals were so shiatty that he lived in a suburb of Mos Eisley. Good thing their president's admin was so incompetent that they couldn't find an astromech at a Jawa yard sale.
 
2022-07-05 7:11:38 AM  

urethra_franklin: Phil McKraken: Zombie DJ: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

This.
He HAS to be mental at this point. He doesn't have enough troops to hold a McDonald's right now.

Putin has Meal Team 66.

[Fark user image image 850x446]

I still cannot get over the fact that picture is real. It's like someone shoved Artie Lange full of foie gras and then he got a role as a general.


I'm looking at that, and realizing they could use him as a human shield.  The bullets would either bounce off or be absorbed by his flab.  Either way, I doubt he'd feel a damn thing.

Or is he a long lost relative of Jabba the Hutt?
 
2022-07-05 7:42:22 AM  

iheartscotch: aleister_greynight: Capturing territory is one thing, holding it is another.

I don't think that Pooty really cares as long as it can be portrayed as a victory. He really could have accomplished the same end result with a video claiming victory over the West.


Exactly this. Much like Trump, he is desperate for anything he can call a win.  Even when he was being defeated, he was more or less calling it a win but he was just being nice and giving Ukraine back their territory
 
2022-07-05 7:46:11 AM  

EwoksSuck: I think this could be the time for Ukraine to push for a settlement. I know they do not want to surrender any territory but the losses are mounting on both sides and this only going to end with a settlement.


I don't know from ewoks, but this take sucks.
 
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