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(Some Gridiron Man)   It looks like it is safe to say that college football is dying   (buckys5thquarter.com) divider line
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2022-07-04 6:21:58 PM  
OK
 
2022-07-04 6:47:59 PM  
I am a Texas grad, and I agree with most of the article.  I wasn't happy about the demise of the SWC, the Aggies going to the SEC, and now UT and OU going to the SEC.  It is all one big money grab!  I am gonna miss the 'Horns kicking the crap out of the Lubbock Sand-Aggies, TCU (grew up in Fort Worth and still live here) kick the crap out of the 'Horns (does give me a chance to catch-up with the ex who is a TCU grad).

The author did make a good point about the fans.  The distance between LA and the rest if the big 10 makes travel difficult.  From where I am, Austin, Lubbock, Norman, Waco, and Stillwater are day trips.  I am sure as shiat not going to drive to Alabama for a football game (and I am not sure Alabama has an airport were anything bigger that a 4 seat Cessna can take off and land...)
 
2022-07-04 7:01:58 PM  
It does seem a bit strange that the biggest source of pride for some institutions of higher learning is a sport known to cause permanent brain damage.
 
2022-07-04 7:21:51 PM  

namegoeshere: It does seem a bit strange that the biggest source of pride for some institutions of higher learning is a sport known to cause permanent brain damage.


Exactly.  Now if we could get the high schools and Pop Warner teams to disband, we might save a few more folks from CTE.
 
2022-07-04 8:43:15 PM  
The N stands for knowledge.
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/old Big 8 joke
//stopped caring about college football for all the reasons in the article
///Western Michigan excepted
 
2022-07-04 8:49:10 PM  
Well I for one am geeked that we all finally get to see UCLA-Rutgers at noon eastern.
 
2022-07-04 9:04:21 PM  

Wadded Beef: Well I for one am geeked that we all finally get to see UCLA-Rutgers at noon eastern.


UCLA will cover the 142.5 pt sorrad
 
2022-07-04 9:49:43 PM  

ytterbium: The N stands for knowledge.
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/old Big 8 joke
//stopped caring about college football for all the reasons in the article
///Western Michigan excepted


I thought IAmRight made a pretty good point the other day that college football is based on school ties and tradition/history. It being a regional thing like this article mentions also is a huge factor.

I'm curious what the TV money situation for CFB is going to be when these factors are are removed and if interest wanes nationally like you no longer caring now (I'm with you as my alma mater won't be in the playoff probably ever again so any game I go to is pretty much a dip into nostalgia). Is the NCAA football golden goose dead in a decade? All this for short-term gains?
 
2022-07-04 10:03:44 PM  
College football and its programs are grabbing the money before the sport is destroyed by lawsuits.

Everyone pretends that CTE is an NFL problem. No, in fact, the problem starts much earlier than that.

It's gonna be hard to bankrupt every local school district which has a football program... but when we're seeing COLLEGE football programs which may soon rake in $100m per year from TV contracts? People are going to notice. And it's gonna be a lot harder for donors to pay exorbitant insurance costs for each of those schools than it will be for 32 pro teams owned by billionaires.
 
2022-07-04 10:10:37 PM  
Or, OR...

The NFL pulls its head out of its ass and creates a professional league for college-age players, and pays them, AND puts that on in the spring. Make it so that if you go through that league, straight out of high school, just like in baseball's minor leagues, you can fast-track your way into the actual NFL if you're good enough. No 3-year wait necessary (but still likely).

You're then eligible for the draft after each season.
 
2022-07-04 10:16:22 PM  
Well in my scenario guys wouldn't be signing NFL team contracts like they do in baseball, but sign them on the "minor league" clubs and let the pros draft them from there alongside the college athletes after each season.
At least make them "declare" just like college football players do, so you don't have a bunch of guys wasting draft picks and everybody's time like the baseball draft where it's far more likely a pick doesn't sign in a given year.

In baseball, you can sign a contract with a pro team out of high school (or community college) but if you go to a big school, just like the NFL draft, you have to wait 3 years before you're eligible to be drafted again. But of course, if you sign that contract with the pros, you can advance as quickly as your skill takes you.
 
2022-07-04 10:50:07 PM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: I am sure as shiat not going to drive to Alabama for a football game (and I am not sure Alabama has an airport were anything bigger that a 4 seat Cessna can take off and land...)


That's OK, you can watch Bama kick the shiat out of Texas from the comfort of your home just as easily.
 
2022-07-04 11:07:21 PM  
I mean, Wisconsin
 
2022-07-05 12:30:42 AM  
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2022-07-05 1:54:21 AM  

plecos: TheMaskedArmadillo: I am sure as shiat not going to drive to Alabama for a football game (and I am not sure Alabama has an airport were anything bigger that a 4 seat Cessna can take off and land...)

That's OK, you can watch Bama kick the shiat out of Texas from the comfort of your home just as easily.


Wish I could argue this with you...but I cannot...
 
2022-07-05 2:15:20 AM  
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2022-07-05 2:21:24 AM  
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2022-07-05 2:39:35 AM  
They should try this kind of thing in Europe with professional soccer teams.  Just get all the best teams from the biggest markets into one league.  I bet that would go over swell.
 
2022-07-05 2:44:42 AM  
You'll get over it.
 
2022-07-05 3:32:18 AM  

ytterbium: The N stands for knowledge.
[Fark user image image 425x387]
/old Big 8 joke
//stopped caring about college football for all the reasons in the article
///Western Michigan excepted


I am appreciative of this picture. thank you. <3
 
2022-07-05 3:54:07 AM  
A part of me wonders why schools like Iowa are going along with this, since they will be marginalized in their own conference.  I suppose they think their chances are better off starting and staying in a national megaconference.
 
2022-07-05 4:20:28 AM  
But big time college football (FBS level) has always been a farce.  Name one other sport where over 70% of the teams start the season GUARANTEED to not win a championship no matter how many games they win or by how much.

After decades of a system that has made it impossible for any team that isn't an anointed power team from a power conference to even think about hoping to contend for a chance at a title, maybe fans have finally gotten the hint and decided it was time to move on.
 
2022-07-05 4:40:25 AM  
I've never understood the appeal of college football. I went to Shippensburg, I have no rooting interest in any of the big schools because I have nothing invested in them. Why would I front-run a school like Alabama with absolutely no attachment to it? I live in Pedo State country, it's amazing to me how many morons walk around saying "We are!" every week when the vast majority of them never went there.

It's background noise. It's watching kids weed themselves out for the NFL draft. It's minor league football that somehow draws more interest than most major league sports.

I know, stop liking what don't like. I mean, it's still football, and I like football, I just dislike poseurs who shout ROLL TIDE like it's a mantra and couldn't spell Alabama if I gave them the l, b, and m and 23 guesses for the missing letter. And it's not just Alabama, they're easy to pick on because Alabama is always near the bottom regarding education in this country and they all bandwagon a college.
 
2022-07-05 6:52:21 AM  

aerojockey: A part of me wonders why schools like Iowa are going along with this, since they will be marginalized in their own conference.  I suppose they think their chances are better off starting and staying in a national megaconference.


usually conference money is spread evenly.  so an Ohio State, Michigan, USC, etc will do all the heavy lifting while Rutgers and Purdue just cash the check to be a conference whipping post.
 
2022-07-05 7:00:46 AM  

IRS.Agent.009: aerojockey: A part of me wonders why schools like Iowa are going along with this, since they will be marginalized in their own conference.  I suppose they think their chances are better off starting and staying in a national megaconference.

usually conference money is spread evenly.  so an Ohio State, Michigan, USC, etc will do all the heavy lifting while Rutgers and Purdue just cash the check to be a conference whipping post.


Not what I mean.  Iowa stands to benefit most by being in a conference like Big Ten more or less as it is; if the conference goes national and gets too large to be manageable, then teams like Iowa and Purdue are the expendible ones.  So, sometimes I think they'd be wiser to push for status quo.  But I suppose the writing is on the wal; and national hyper super mega ultra conferences are the inescapable future, then better to go along with getting the first leg up.

Rutgers is in no danger because it gives the Big Ten a toehold in the a New York market.
 
2022-07-05 8:04:12 AM  
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2022-07-05 9:26:13 AM  
Using the same phrases and following the same motovations about ratings  TV contracts, and market share while even pretending there is any reason other than those, is a line out of The Boys and people might assume you have a sincerity problem.
 
2022-07-05 9:45:38 AM  

aerojockey: IRS.Agent.009: aerojockey: A part of me wonders why schools like Iowa are going along with this, since they will be marginalized in their own conference.  I suppose they think their chances are better off starting and staying in a national megaconference.

usually conference money is spread evenly.  so an Ohio State, Michigan, USC, etc will do all the heavy lifting while Rutgers and Purdue just cash the check to be a conference whipping post.

Not what I mean.  Iowa stands to benefit most by being in a conference like Big Ten more or less as it is; if the conference goes national and gets too large to be manageable, then teams like Iowa and Purdue are the expendible ones.  So, sometimes I think they'd be wiser to push for status quo.  But I suppose the writing is on the wal; and national hyper super mega ultra conferences are the inescapable future, then better to go along with getting the first leg up.

Rutgers is in no danger because it gives the Big Ten a toehold in the a New York market.


Exactly. There are a lot of pawns out there that refuse to admit they are pawns, and they're gonna be the first to be given up when greener pastures prevail.
 
2022-07-05 9:58:05 AM  
1.  Ask the SEC if college football is dying?  They will emphatically say "Hell naw"...
2. Money makes the NCAA/BIG 10 go round.
3. It is for recruiting purposes.
4. Just wait until Texas Tech and Iowa St join the Big 10.  Again, for #2 and #3.
 
2022-07-05 9:59:52 AM  
Funny how no other country in the world has the problem of a sport having taken over their university systems.
 
2022-07-05 10:12:47 AM  
It's completely exploits people, let it die.    If the NFL had spent as much time and money on researching CTE as it did trying to cover it up we might have a treatment by now.
 
2022-07-05 10:18:58 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Funny how no other country in the world has the problem of a sport having taken over their university systems.


No, European football (soccer) teams have junior squads and start recruiting genuine children, then ruthlessly weed them out and cast the inferior ones aside with nothing to show for it. They make no pretense at education, which these guys can get if they actually want one.
 
2022-07-05 10:33:05 AM  
Pointless sports article.  Ok, I'm being redundant.
 
2022-07-05 10:34:39 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how no other country in the world has the problem of a sport having taken over their university systems.

No, European football (soccer) teams have junior squads and start recruiting genuine children, then ruthlessly weed them out and cast the inferior ones aside with nothing to show for it. They make no pretense at education, which these guys can get if they actually want one.


Thank you for shooting down another "this is the only country in the world where..." post. We are not that exceptional, other than for gun violence and small number of other things.
 
2022-07-05 10:37:24 AM  
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2022-07-05 10:38:09 AM  
Step one:  no over glorified conference championship games, so that a true National Champion can be crowned.  Alabama from a few years ago doesn't count, and that crappy team from Athens also did not win a real championship.

Step two:  conference champions ONLY.  No participation trophies if you lost your conference championship game.  This directly leads to....

Step three:  ALL conference champions qualify.  Team(s) with the best record and schedule strength get a bye.

Step four:  except for natural rivals (Florida vs. Florida State for example), no out of conference games.
 
2022-07-05 10:40:00 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how no other country in the world has the problem of a sport having taken over their university systems.

No, European football (soccer) teams have junior squads and start recruiting genuine children, then ruthlessly weed them out and cast the inferior ones aside with nothing to show for it. They make no pretense at education, which these guys can get if they actually want one.


They still get free education and health care.  I imagine a reject from Liverpool FCs youth system will still get a better education than the quarterback at Alabama.
 
2022-07-05 10:51:28 AM  

puffy999: Or, OR...

The NFL pulls its head out of its ass and creates a professional league for college-age players, and pays them, AND puts that on in the spring. Make it so that if you go through that league, straight out of high school, just like in baseball's minor leagues, you can fast-track your way into the actual NFL if you're good enough. No 3-year wait necessary (but still likely).

You're then eligible for the draft after each season.


That's effectively what NIL is all about. The endgame is remove the NCAA entirely and have colleges function like minor leagues. Same goes with the NCAA Tournament when its rights expire in 2032.
 
2022-07-05 11:14:14 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how no other country in the world has the problem of a sport having taken over their university systems.

No, European football (soccer) teams have junior squads and start recruiting genuine children, then ruthlessly weed them out and cast the inferior ones aside with nothing to show for it. They make no pretense at education, which these guys can get if they actually want one.


Europeans send their little children off to university?  I'm going to ned a reference for that.
 
2022-07-05 11:18:06 AM  

ElFugawz: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how no other country in the world has the problem of a sport having taken over their university systems.

No, European football (soccer) teams have junior squads and start recruiting genuine children, then ruthlessly weed them out and cast the inferior ones aside with nothing to show for it. They make no pretense at education, which these guys can get if they actually want one.

Thank you for shooting down another "this is the only country in the world where..." post. We are not that exceptional, other than for gun violence and small number of other things.


Universities outside of the USA are not, in fact, run by their football team.
 
2022-07-05 2:08:56 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: I've never understood the appeal of college football. I went to Shippensburg, I have no rooting interest in any of the big schools because I have nothing invested in them. Why would I front-run a school like Alabama with absolutely no attachment to it? I live in Pedo State country, it's amazing to me how many morons walk around saying "We are!" every week when the vast majority of them never went there.

It's background noise. It's watching kids weed themselves out for the NFL draft. It's minor league football that somehow draws more interest than most major league sports.

I know, stop liking what don't like. I mean, it's still football, and I like football, I just dislike poseurs who shout ROLL TIDE like it's a mantra and couldn't spell Alabama if I gave them the l, b, and m and 23 guesses for the missing letter. And it's not just Alabama, they're easy to pick on because Alabama is always near the bottom regarding education in this country and they all bandwagon a college.


Yeah but at least they have Tennessee

I Hate Tennessee
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2022-07-05 2:11:39 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: That's effectively what NIL is all about. The endgame is remove the NCAA entirely and have colleges function like minor leagues


Colleges.

Why should we bother with the education pretense anymore?
 
2022-07-05 4:31:14 PM  

Cinedelic: But big time college football (FBS level) has always been a farce.  Name one other sport where over 70% of the teams start the season GUARANTEED to not win a championship no matter how many games they win or by how much.


I really should do a post on this and save it in a Word doc so as to enable a copypasta when people say this. I won't, but I should.

The extremely short version of the main point against this is that programs at the 1-A level who know they are not reasonable contenders for a national title remain in 1-A for the money rather than dropping down to the 1-AA level where they would find the resources of their competition more equal to their own. The amount of 1-A teams has dramatically increased, relatively speaking, over what it was at the turn of the millennium. I have absolutely no sympathy for programs who choose to play at a higher level than they are capable of competing in because of the money who then turn around and whine about how they have no shot. I feel sorry for them not in the slightest and in fact wish them ill for the belief that their existence means obligations for others.
 
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