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2022-07-04 2:53:26 PM  
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2022-07-04 2:54:35 PM  
It is often hard to be moved by a piece of music you've heard infinite variations on for the whole of your life, but goddamn, they really nail it.

/Those rockets and their red glares...
 
2022-07-04 5:16:59 PM  
And I'm crying.
 
2022-07-04 6:08:40 PM  
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2022-07-04 6:50:08 PM  
Twitter apparently has a 2:20 limit. Full video here:

Привітання до Дня Незалежності США / Greetings for the Independence Day of the USA
Youtube eI11UmUc9fg

I was prepared to be unmoved by any rendition of that song today.

Now, I am tearing up because their country is truly fighting for independence as we speak.
 
2022-07-04 6:51:36 PM  

Unobtanium: Twitter apparently has a 2:20 limit. Full video here:

[YouTube video: Привітання до Дня Незалежності США / Greetings for the Independence Day of the USA]
I was prepared to be unmoved by any rendition of that song today.

Now, I am tearing up because their country is truly fighting for independence as we speak.


And the link goes to it. That's what I get for reading the thread first.
 
2022-07-04 7:23:18 PM  
And now I want to hear the US Marine Corps Band play the Ukrainian anthem for them...
 
2022-07-04 7:27:59 PM  
This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.
 
2022-07-04 7:42:13 PM  
Kick ass you brave bastards. I want to celebrate Ukraine independence.
 
2022-07-04 7:44:15 PM  
I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome
 
2022-07-04 7:46:54 PM  
Enrico Pallazzo. You are needed in Ukraine, STAT.
 
2022-07-04 7:49:07 PM  
💥 Ukrainian soldier shooting Russian tank with American song
Youtube KGWDTGtQYjU
 
2022-07-04 7:50:10 PM  

monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome

It is a crap anthem, in every aspect. That it can be made to sound farking awesome (and boy howdy was this ever!) doesn't change that sad fact.
 
2022-07-04 7:50:59 PM  
We don't deserve this.
 
2022-07-04 7:52:39 PM  

monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome


It's an EXTREMELY difficult song to sing well. It's not the lyrics...it's the vocal range required to get it correct. The best rendition that I am aware of was Lady Gaga's for the Super Bowl in 2016.
 
2022-07-04 8:01:13 PM  

OneDayWhat: This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.


The US Armed Forces have been clean-shaven since 1917.
 
2022-07-04 8:02:50 PM  
I've heard this song thousands of times. Why is this time making me tear up?
 
2022-07-04 8:06:45 PM  

g.fro: OneDayWhat: This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.

The US Armed Forces have been clean-shaven since 1917.


It makes sense in a lot of ways if your job may require you to don a gas mask, Emergency Escape Breathing Device (Naval and CG ships) or firefighting ensemble with a SCBA (Naval and CG ships again). Facial hair can prevent a good seal allowing undesirable gasses and particulates into where you really don't want them.
 
2022-07-04 8:07:03 PM  
That was one of the most stirring renditions of our national anthem I have ever heard. I can only hope that, through continued and growing American support for Ukraine in their conflict, the future proves us to be deserving of such a moving tribute to our country from another nation. That even in our own times of upheaval we do not forget or neglect the faith the Ukrainians have placed in us, and in the strength of democracy. Stronger together. Slava Ukraini.
 
2022-07-04 8:09:54 PM  
 
2022-07-04 8:10:02 PM  

COMALite J: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome
It is a crap anthem, in every aspect. That it can be made to sound farking awesome (and boy howdy was this ever!) doesn't change that sad fact.


Gonna disagree.

It's in 3/4 time, which is really rare for an anthem.

It sucks when it's performed by a breathy, overly dramatic singer who stretches everything out.  It should be played at a tempo of 104-120.  Not 80 bpm like Whitney Houston et al do.
 
2022-07-04 8:12:07 PM  

Notabunny: I've heard this song thousands of times. Why is this time making me tear up?


I dunno, but the when the choral singing at "rockets red glare" came on, my eyes went teary
 
2022-07-04 8:12:59 PM  
Thank you, Ukrainian military.

Keep up the good fight. The US stands with you.
 
2022-07-04 8:16:35 PM  

TwowheelinTim: g.fro: OneDayWhat: This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.

The US Armed Forces have been clean-shaven since 1917.

It makes sense in a lot of ways if your job may require you to don a gas mask, Emergency Escape Breathing Device (Naval and CG ships) or firefighting ensemble with a SCBA (Naval and CG ships again). Facial hair can prevent a good seal allowing undesirable gasses and particulates into where you really don't want them.


Yes. Which is why servicemen have been required to shave since chemical weapons became a thing.
 
2022-07-04 8:17:05 PM  
браво
 
2022-07-04 8:18:17 PM  
Yep. As stirring as it is supposed to be. Being currently familiar with the glare and effect of rockets might have something to do with it.
 
2022-07-04 8:18:48 PM  

FrancoFile: COMALite J: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome
It is a crap anthem, in every aspect. That it can be made to sound farking awesome (and boy howdy was this ever!) doesn't change that sad fact.

Gonna disagree.

It's in 3/4 time, which is really rare for an anthem.

It sucks when it's performed by a breathy, overly dramatic singer who stretches everything out.  It should be played at a tempo of 104-120.  Not 80 bpm like Whitney Houston et al do.


Don't bash Whitney. I liked her version.
 
2022-07-04 8:20:36 PM  

g.fro: TwowheelinTim: g.fro: OneDayWhat: This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.

The US Armed Forces have been clean-shaven since 1917.

It makes sense in a lot of ways if your job may require you to don a gas mask, Emergency Escape Breathing Device (Naval and CG ships) or firefighting ensemble with a SCBA (Naval and CG ships again). Facial hair can prevent a good seal allowing undesirable gasses and particulates into where you really don't want them.

Yes. Which is why servicemen have been required to shave since chemical weapons became a thing.


My point exactly.
 
2022-07-04 8:20:51 PM  

COMALite J: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome
It is a crap anthem, in every aspect. That it can be made to sound farking awesome (and boy howdy was this ever!) doesn't change that sad fact.


If we were honest with ourselves as a country, this would be our national anthem
This Land Is Your Land
Youtube zsj7d8hmSCA

/i like this cover
 
2022-07-04 8:25:38 PM  
Ukrainians, since you fight for your freedom and are not swayed by an autocrat, you deserve freedom as much as we do if not more.
 
2022-07-04 8:28:47 PM  
This is honestly both an amazing rendition of the anthem and of war propaganda that I've see. Bravo to them.

Fight on Ukraine
 
2022-07-04 8:29:57 PM  

g.fro: TwowheelinTim: g.fro: OneDayWhat: This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.

The US Armed Forces have been clean-shaven since 1917.

It makes sense in a lot of ways if your job may require you to don a gas mask, Emergency Escape Breathing Device (Naval and CG ships) or firefighting ensemble with a SCBA (Naval and CG ships again). Facial hair can prevent a good seal allowing undesirable gasses and particulates into where you really don't want them.

Yes. Which is why servicemen have been required to shave since chemical weapons became a thing.


I kind of wish we had an exception for Sheiks, like the Brits and the Indians do.  Sheiks are drawn to military and police service, and they bring a lot of diversity with them that would be a good balance to the white supremacist narrative that tries to infiltrate those services.
 
2022-07-04 8:36:11 PM  

Notabunny: I've heard this song thousands of times. Why is this time making me tear up?


Context.

The anthem was written about surviving an attack on the country.

The last time the US was attacked, we attacked 2 countries, neither of which had anything to do with the inception and launch of the attack.  To boot, we also institutionally tortured people in foreign lands.  We used chemicals weapons, WMDs, the very lie at the ruse of our attack, on innocents.

It has been very hard to feel "national pride" since 2003.  That Obama was even elected gave many some hope.  But to see the backlash, the rot that brewed underneath... then Trump.

So to know the words, and to see and hear them in the context in which they are fitting, is stirring indeed.
 
2022-07-04 8:36:30 PM  

iheartscotch: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome

It's an EXTREMELY difficult song to sing well. It's not the lyrics...it's the vocal range required to get it correct. The best rendition that I am aware of was Lady Gaga's for the Super Bowl in 2016.


Lady Gaga - Star-Spangled Banner (Live at Super Bowl 50)
Youtube GbXSZBnBOQ4
She's extremely talented
 
2022-07-04 8:39:51 PM  

hammettman: So to know the words, and to see and hear them in the context in which they are fitting, is stirring indeed.


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2022-07-04 8:45:27 PM  
What does your Ukranian Orthodox Pope have to say to the Westen Roman Catholic Church Pope and HOW CAN THERE BE TWO POPES or EVEN THREE counting RETIRED POPE RATZINGER

/in conclusion, I don't care what you think
 
2022-07-04 8:54:16 PM  

iheartscotch: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome

It's an EXTREMELY difficult song to sing well. It's not the lyrics...it's the vocal range required to get it correct. The best rendition that I am aware of was Lady Gaga's for the Super Bowl in 2016.


1991 Whitney Houston says to get off her lawn.

And crack is whack!
 
2022-07-04 9:01:31 PM  

hammettman: Notabunny: I've heard this song thousands of times. Why is this time making me tear up?

Context.

The anthem was written about surviving an attack on the country.

The last time the US was attacked, we attacked 2 countries, neither of which had anything to do with the inception and launch of the attack.  To boot, we also institutionally tortured people in foreign lands.  We used chemicals weapons, WMDs, the very lie at the ruse of our attack, on innocents.

It has been very hard to feel "national pride" since 2003.  That Obama was even elected gave many some hope.  But to see the backlash, the rot that brewed underneath... then Trump.

So to know the words, and to see and hear them in the context in which they are fitting, is stirring indeed.


What chemical weapons did we use in the wars your referenced?
 
2022-07-04 9:02:47 PM  
we dont need your gods, Philadelphia predates the Roman Church hence PHILADELPHIA IS GREEK

the church is the carrot (hanging) before the horse;

when you die you lose 3 years of your memory and see Devil's Advocate, blows his head off, wakes up in bathroom of hick courthouse the movie started at

this is word-of-mouth that carried the last 2000+ years

/Greek. Life. Prevails.
 
2022-07-04 9:04:03 PM  

Be polite walk on the right: we dont need your gods, Philadelphia predates the Roman Church hence PHILADELPHIA IS GREEK

the church is the carrot (hanging) before the horse;

when you die you lose 3 years of your memory and see Devil's Advocate, blows his head off, wakes up in bathroom of hick courthouse the movie started at

this is word-of-mouth that carried the last 2000+ years

/Greek. Life. Prevails.


Maybe you should stop drinking and randomly going into politics threads. I think you want the pope Francis one a few threads down
 
2022-07-04 9:06:31 PM  

somedude210: Be polite walk on the right: we dont need your gods, Philadelphia predates the Roman Church hence PHILADELPHIA IS GREEK

the church is the carrot (hanging) before the horse;

when you die you lose 3 years of your memory and see Devil's Advocate, blows his head off, wakes up in bathroom of hick courthouse the movie started at

this is word-of-mouth that carried the last 2000+ years

/Greek. Life. Prevails.

Maybe you should stop drinking and randomly going into politics threads. I think you want the pope Francis one a few threads down


flummoxed

😶

/2 holes
//me or your own farting eyes
 
2022-07-04 9:07:11 PM  

winedrinkingman: g.fro: TwowheelinTim: g.fro: OneDayWhat: This reminds me that winning armies don't outlaw beards and neatly trimmed facial hair.
Need source?
See: we haven't won since 1945.

The US Armed Forces have been clean-shaven since 1917.

It makes sense in a lot of ways if your job may require you to don a gas mask, Emergency Escape Breathing Device (Naval and CG ships) or firefighting ensemble with a SCBA (Naval and CG ships again). Facial hair can prevent a good seal allowing undesirable gasses and particulates into where you really don't want them.

Yes. Which is why servicemen have been required to shave since chemical weapons became a thing.

I kind of wish we had an exception for Sheiks, like the Brits and the Indians do.  Sheiks are drawn to military and police service, and they bring a lot of diversity with them that would be a good balance to the white supremacist narrative that tries to infiltrate those services.


Those are Sikhs.  Sheiks are something else entirely.  Put down the wine.
 
2022-07-04 9:07:39 PM  
This is for the good people of 🇺🇦

/I lived with one once
//dont fear death; its not there
 
2022-07-04 9:14:24 PM  
I don't know how to say this in Ukrainian but,

Putin is a whore.
 
2022-07-04 9:16:23 PM  
I will just leave this here.

Slava Ukraini

The Planets in Hi-Def | National anthems of Ukraine and United States
Youtube s6ToWXFYRwI
 
2022-07-04 9:17:44 PM  

Communist Middleschool Student: I don't know how to say this in Ukrainian but,

Putin is a whore.


Путін - повія

/Putin - poviya
 
2022-07-04 9:18:27 PM  

Mad Canadian: iheartscotch: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome

It's an EXTREMELY difficult song to sing well. It's not the lyrics...it's the vocal range required to get it correct. The best rendition that I am aware of was Lady Gaga's for the Super Bowl in 2016.

1991 Whitney Houston says to get off her lawn.

And crack is whack!


Whitney's 1991 performance was fantastic..however..it is my opinion that the full orchestra was a bit much. I much prefer the single grand piano. That is just my opinion. I could be incorrect.
 
2022-07-04 9:18:45 PM  

FrancoFile: COMALite J: monsatano: I've always thought the Star-Spangled Banner was a crap anthem, but this version was farking awesome
It is a crap anthem, in every aspect. That it can be made to sound farking awesome (and boy howdy was this ever!) doesn't change that sad fact.

Gonna disagree.

It's in ¾ time, which is really rare for an anthem.

It sucks when it's performed by a breathy, overly dramatic singer who stretches everything out.  It should be played at a tempo of 104−120.  Not 80 bpm like Whitney Houston et al do.

iheartscotch: It's an EXTREMELY difficult song to sing well. It's not the lyrics...it's the vocal range required to get it correct. The best rendition that I am aware of was Lady Gaga's for the Super Bowl in 2016.

I wasn't just talking about the music, but that, too. The music is adapted from "The Anacreontic Song" by John Stafford Smith as the theme song of the Anacreontic Society, a drinking society of English gentlemen:
The Anacreontic Song-18c. Source Tune for U.S. National Anthem
Youtube 3l-n64NWHS4

It was designed to be hard to sing, as a challenge amongst drinking buddies. But that's not my main issue with it.

It's the lyrics. The subject matter. The history behind it and what it really represents. Francis Scott Key wrote the poem "Defence [sic]¹ of Fort McHenry" in the aftermath of that battle, but it was one battle in one war that we were, sorry to say, the baddies in (invading Canada, then still under the British Crown, to retrieve escaped slaves). It's not, in any sense, about the nation itself, and a National Anthem really should be.

/¹ Noah Webster hadn't invented "U.S. English" yet.

In Key's defence [heh], he never intended it to become a national anthem, and would be long dead by the time that happened (though he was the one who suggested putting those words to that tune, and indeed wrote all of his poems to the meter [or metre?] of "The Anacreontic Song").

The British had offered freedom to slaves who fought on their side, and they kept their word. Key's anger at this was what inspired the 3ʳᵈ verse, whose anti-British nature became problematic during WWII and afterwards, and now many hymnals and other sheet music omit this verse completely and renumber verse №4 to №3:
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"No refuge could save the hireling [mercenary] and slave | From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave." Key was wishing death on slaves. And that became our National Anthem.

The 4ᵗʰ verse helped set up Christian Nationalism, yet conflating it with a desire for conquest, with "Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserved us a nation. | Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just [since when is there ever a just cause for conquest? Defense [or defence], yes, but conquest!?] | And this be our Mot-to, 'In God is our trust'." That right there paved the way for the eventual changing of our National Motto from the very deliberately inclusionary "E Pluribus Unum" ("Out of Many, One") which the Founders had given us and which was our Motto even now for well over twice as long as this jumped-up Johnny-come-lately Motto foisted on us by the Knights of Columbus et al capitalizing on McCarthy's "Red Scare" in 1956 (there are still, here in 2022, many American citizens, still of sound mind and memory, who were adults when that happened). That Motto is very deliberately exclusionary, and not because of the word "God." Because of the word "we" ― "In God We Trust" (a subtle yet key [heh] alteration of Key's original).

It's a just plain sucky Anthem in every aspect.

It didn't even start to become anything resembling a National Anthem until the 1890s when the Armed Forces started using it (presumably in lieu of something better) as something to play or sing when raising or lowering the colors. Woodrow Wilson issued an executive order in 1916 declaring it the National Anthem, but only for the military and Executive Branch. It wasn't until 1931, even a century ago, that Congress finally passed a bill which Herbert Hoover signed into law that officially declared it the National Anthem for the whole nation.

The 1890s military could perhaps be excused for lack of a better candidate for an Anthem (I don't know if there were any now-largely-forgotten patriotic songs back then that could've served as well or better), but by 1916 and well before 1933 there was definitelymuch better candidate for National Anthem available: "America the Beautiful"! From an 1893 poem set to music in 1895, modified and a verse added in 1904 and 1913, respectively, it was definitely available.

And it's sooo much better in every respect! Musically (much easier to sing, and really, shouldn't a NationalAnthem be singable by just about anyone and everyone in the nation who can sing at all? Not to mention not using the tune of an English drinking society's pæn to pagan Græco-Roman gods and goddesses?), lyrically (much better rhyme and meter), and most importantly, in meaning.

It's actually about America!! The whole nation and everything about it! The land, the history, the wealth, the military, and yes, religion, but in a more generic sense (and more frequent: God is referenced in every chorus, not just one seldom-sung verse, so even Christians should be on board with this).

We could still keep "The Star Spangled Banner" as a general patriotic song, like "America the Beautiful" is now.
 
2022-07-04 9:19:52 PM  
And this

"Prayer for Ukraine" (Молитва за Україну) - The United States Air Force Band and Singing Sergeants
Youtube glL_mWmzXoM
 
2022-07-04 9:20:19 PM  
Holy crap! They made that boring anthem sound good. Great, even.

The ending was downright cinematic.
 
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