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2022-07-04 12:04:09 PM  
Hmm...it's possible we Buffs fans will get to travel to Meth County, OK for road games again. Ahh, nostalgia.
 
2022-07-04 12:30:11 PM  
The ACC Grant of Rights firewall holding steady for now.  If that fails, Virginia Tech is gonna end up playing in C-USA
 
2022-07-04 1:04:45 PM  
Null's Plan For D1 FBS College Football Conferences and Playoffs:

8 16-Team conferences
Each conference with 2 8-team divisions
Each team in the division plays their 7 division members, 2 rotating cross-division games, and 3 rotating games from teams with similar records from other conferences (similar to NFL scheduling).
If a team wants to schedule exhibition games or cream puffs or Little Sisters of the Poor to beat up, that's on them and does not affect playoffs or rankings.
Division champions play for conference title.
Conference champions are seeded into 4 quarterfinal games, winners into 2 semifinals, those winners into an absolute NCAA D1 championship. Seeds determined by absolute record first, common games, SoS, figure something out that mostly works so two unbeatens end up #1 and 2 and everyone is mostly okay with it.
Set up naming of the 6 quarter/semifinal games however you want that pleases advertisers and tradition, IDGAF much.  In fact you can give bowl names to the conference championships for all I care.
Anyone not making the playoffs can go figure out if they want to play in the Idaho Potato Bowl or WTF ever.

The two teams with the absolute worst records are forced to play in the Toilet Bowl brought to you by American Standard/Kohler and Lysol.  Any team losing the Toilet Bowl twice in 5 years is relegated to D1 FCS and their 3 most recent champions get to bid on the vacated spot subject to majority approval of the conference they would be entering.

Notre Dame and the rest of the independents have to pick a conference or GTFO and make way for D1 FCS teams.

Any team with a scandal or violation which would have serious effect on games played is ineligible for the conference championships.  This being like players being ineligible to play due to academic performance, not stupid "someone bought a kid a Bic Mac and that's an improper benefit" crap.

Also, pay the kids.
 
2022-07-04 3:15:31 PM  
Colorado should reeeeally consider making a push with Washington, Cal, and Stanford to join the Big Ten.

Colorado isn't as lauded a University as the other three, but it's a good one and would fit in that conference just fine. Far better than oregon academically.
 
2022-07-04 3:44:50 PM  
I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.
 
2022-07-04 3:49:54 PM  
I like it when the MN Gophers football plays USC.
 
2022-07-04 4:14:20 PM  

RepoManTSM: I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.


These deals are about TV markets; schools and football don't matter. Phoenix alone has more people than the state of Oregon.
 
2022-07-04 4:16:56 PM  
Oregon should go independent. Worked for Notre Dame, should work for the University of Nike
 
2022-07-04 4:17:39 PM  

RepoManTSM: I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.


For the past few years, Arizona's football team has played like a Big Sky Conference team. With Arizona State, it's their basketball program that has flailed.
 
2022-07-04 4:50:20 PM  
SDSU Aztecs?
 
2022-07-04 4:54:48 PM  

puffy999: Colorado should reeeeally consider making a push with Washington, Cal, and Stanford to join the Big Ten.

Colorado isn't as lauded a University as the other three, but it's a good one and would fit in that conference just fine. Far better than oregon academically.


Ugh....Oregon.  Say no to quack!

Also:

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2022-07-04 4:58:28 PM  
Boise St or San Diego St for competition reasons and UNLV for market reasons seem like the best options for the PAC12 at this point.

PAC12 probably wishes right now that Gonzaga had a football team.
 
2022-07-04 4:58:34 PM  

The_Sponge: puffy999: Colorado should reeeeally consider making a push with Washington, Cal, and Stanford to join the Big Ten.

Colorado isn't as lauded a University as the other three, but it's a good one and would fit in that conference just fine. Far better than oregon academically.

Ugh....Oregon.  Say no to quack!

Also:

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When expansion goes further maybe Le Cordon Bleu can join in
 
2022-07-04 5:04:26 PM  
I would laugh pretty hard if UW and WSU are left behind, scratching their heads and wondering WTF happened, as the 2025 Apple Cup is televised via local channels with only a replay stream available on ESPN+ for the Cambodia and Laos markets.

You had a feeling UW at least probably blew their chance at long-term relevancy when a more-talented-than-you-remember (a handful of good NFL players today were on that team) 2016 team got into the Playoff, only to immediately die a death by 1,000 papercuts to Alabama.

/Doubt they would've beaten Clemson that year either had they snaked by Alabama, anyway
//When your starting QB is Jake Browning, who made Chad Pennington look like Mike Vick, your margin of error is not large
 
2022-07-04 5:08:36 PM  

Killer Cars: //When your starting QB is Jake Browning, who made Chad Pennington look like Mike Vick, your margin of error is not large


In terms of arm strength, I meant. Browning was actually more mobile than Pennington ever was, but not in a "could actually outrun anyone Nick Saban offered a scholarship to" way.
 
2022-07-04 5:24:23 PM  
Now that the initial shot across the bow has been fired, look to see the rest of the Pac-12 get consumed sans Arizona State, Oregon State and Washington State.

And then, for the lulz, the University of Toronto, and McGill...
 
2022-07-04 6:00:37 PM  

IAmRight: RepoManTSM: I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.

These deals are about TV markets; schools and football don't matter. Phoenix alone has more people than the state of Oregon.


But the sports fans in Phoenix are luke warm at best.
 
2022-07-04 6:09:49 PM  

Sergeant Angle: IAmRight: RepoManTSM: I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.

These deals are about TV markets; schools and football don't matter. Phoenix alone has more people than the state of Oregon.

But the sports fans in Phoenix are luke warm at best.


No one cares about the temperature of the fans. Markets are what count for TV broadcasters because that's what they sell to advertisers. And conferences care because if you don't have the markets, TV doesn't give you as much money. And while there's always been money as an incentive...now it's the only thing for schools.
 
2022-07-04 7:05:35 PM  

null: Null's Plan For D1 FBS College Football Conferences and Playoffs:

8 16-Team conferences
Each conference with 2 8-team divisions
Each team in the division plays their 7 division members, 2 rotating cross-division games, and 3 rotating games from teams with similar records from other conferences (similar to NFL scheduling).
If a team wants to schedule exhibition games or cream puffs or Little Sisters of the Poor to beat up, that's on them and does not affect playoffs or rankings.
Division champions play for conference title.
Conference champions are seeded into 4 quarterfinal games, winners into 2 semifinals, those winners into an absolute NCAA D1 championship. Seeds determined by absolute record first, common games, SoS, figure something out that mostly works so two unbeatens end up #1 and 2 and everyone is mostly okay with it.
Set up naming of the 6 quarter/semifinal games however you want that pleases advertisers and tradition, IDGAF much.  In fact you can give bowl names to the conference championships for all I care.
Anyone not making the playoffs can go figure out if they want to play in the Idaho Potato Bowl or WTF ever.

The two teams with the absolute worst records are forced to play in the Toilet Bowl brought to you by American Standard/Kohler and Lysol.  Any team losing the Toilet Bowl twice in 5 years is relegated to D1 FCS and their 3 most recent champions get to bid on the vacated spot subject to majority approval of the conference they would be entering.

Notre Dame and the rest of the independents have to pick a conference or GTFO and make way for D1 FCS teams.

Any team with a scandal or violation which would have serious effect on games played is ineligible for the conference championships.  This being like players being ineligible to play due to academic performance, not stupid "someone bought a kid a Bic Mac and that's an improper benefit" crap.

Also, pay the kids.


It's a good thing that the real college football is happening in the FCS. ;)

/Go Bison!!!
 
2022-07-04 7:08:28 PM  
Honestly, the Mountain West should go for broke and invite the remaining six PAC 12 teams if they lose those four.  It's already going to 20 team superconfrences, this move would make it 18. They'll have the entire west coast with the exception of Phoenix and LA, and any opposition to this from Stanford on academic grounds will be met with "read the room."  If Apple TV is looking to get into college football, this would be their move.
 
2022-07-04 7:10:18 PM  

RepoManTSM: I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.


The assumption is that Oregon and Washington will be off to the Big Ten as well.
 
2022-07-04 7:47:28 PM  
I figured the Big12 would at least after the AZ teams if not a couple of others, Utah would fit well as would bringing back CO for the old Big 8/early Big 12 days.  Washington and Oregon might fit but I think they may have there eyes elsewhere now,

Will be interesting to see were Sanford and Cal end up, you do have the San Fran market.
 
2022-07-04 8:00:43 PM  

Pinnacle Point: I like it when the MN Gophers football plays USC.


Can't wait for Rutgers to kick of in L.A. at midnight eastern.
 
2022-07-04 8:35:11 PM  

xtalman: Will be interesting to see were Sanford and Cal end up, you do have the San Fran market


It still boggles my mind that Cal and Stanford aren't BigTen frontrunners.

Both are world-renowned universities, both are good at the non-football and men's hoops type things in athletics. The Bay Area (Stanford is closer to the population growth than Cal). And Washington is just a stones throw behind them.
 
2022-07-04 9:00:25 PM  

Sergeant Angle: IAmRight: RepoManTSM: I'd swap out one of the Az schools for Oregon if I'm the Big XII.

These deals are about TV markets; schools and football don't matter. Phoenix alone has more people than the state of Oregon.

But the sports fans in Phoenix are luke warm at best.


But it's a dry luke warm.
 
2022-07-04 9:02:22 PM  

puffy999: xtalman: Will be interesting to see were Sanford and Cal end up, you do have the San Fran market

It still boggles my mind that Cal and Stanford aren't BigTen frontrunners.

Both are world-renowned universities, both are good at the non-football and men's hoops type things in athletics. The Bay Area (Stanford is closer to the population growth than Cal). And Washington is just a stones throw behind them.


If Northwestern has anything to say about it, Stanford will never be in the Big Ten. They recruit the same players ans would never want competition within the conference.
 
2022-07-04 10:00:12 PM  

Foolkiller: If Northwestern has anything to say about it, Stanford will never be in the Big Ten. They recruit the same players ans would never want competition within the conference.


I don't think Northwestern has much of a voice here. They should be THRILLED that they wound up in one of the two super conferences and will reap the spoils of the TV cash. I'm sure the Big10 would drop Northwestern if they could in favor of Notre Dame. Hell, Duke brings more to the table since they're academically similar to NU while offering an elite basketball program (yes, I realize that Northwestern isn't going to get cut loose for Duke).
 
2022-07-04 10:33:48 PM  

Foolkiller: puffy999: xtalman: Will be interesting to see were Sanford and Cal end up, you do have the San Fran market

It still boggles my mind that Cal and Stanford aren't BigTen frontrunners.

Both are world-renowned universities, both are good at the non-football and men's hoops type things in athletics. The Bay Area (Stanford is closer to the population growth than Cal). And Washington is just a stones throw behind them.

If Northwestern has anything to say about it, Stanford will never be in the Big Ten. They recruit the same players ans would never want competition within the conference.


Does Northwestern have that kind of clout?

It's farking Stanford. It's like if MIT or Cal Tech asked to join as academic partners, you just *do it*. Even if they are a rung higher than you are, they're going to raise the tide to help float your boat as well.
 
2022-07-05 12:04:54 AM  
They really do not who they play against.  They just want the sweet network deal $$ that the Big10* gets

*only large version of the number of 10
 
2022-07-05 12:17:37 AM  

kkinnison: They really do not who they play against.


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2022-07-05 1:42:53 AM  

puffy999: xtalman: Will be interesting to see were Sanford and Cal end up, you do have the San Fran market

It still boggles my mind that Cal and Stanford aren't BigTen frontrunners.

Both are world-renowned universities, both are good at the non-football and men's hoops type things in athletics. The Bay Area (Stanford is closer to the population growth than Cal). And Washington is just a stones throw behind them.


Stanford is likely a big target, both because of the SF market but because they likely convince Notre Dame to join. I feel like Cal is on the outside despite the incredible academic pedigree, at least for now.
 
2022-07-05 1:56:27 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Stanford is likely a big target, both because of the SF market but because they likely convince Notre Dame to join. I feel like Cal is on the outside despite the incredible academic pedigree, at least for now


People forget Cal is UCLA's big brother in everything that isn't sports or medicine (well okay maybe media but USC is everyone's big brother in that)

You may not be wrong, but it's possibly because the Big Ten also forgets that.
 
2022-07-05 8:37:34 AM  
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2022-07-06 12:03:09 AM  
USC and UCLA are just the beginning for the B1G. It's the opening move to break up the conference and force Notre Dame to finally join after adding most of their "national schedule" opponents once Stanford gets gobbled up as well.

Look for them to target the ACC again when they shoot for Duke, UNC and Virginia. They're not just looking to answer the SEC's moves. If anything, they're working with the SEC to carve up FBS for everything they can both get. Both will get to 24 members by the end of this round.

B1G East Pod - Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland, Duke, North Carolina, Virginia
B1G Central Pod - Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana, Notre Dame
B1G Midwest Pod - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Nebraska
B1G West Pod - USC, UCLA, California, Stanford, Oregon, Washington

SEC Atlantic Pod - Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida State, Miami, Clemson
SEC East Pod - Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Louisville
SEC South Pod - Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Arkansas, Missouri, Memphis
SEC West Pod - Texas. Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State
 
2022-07-06 12:18:34 AM  
And if you're asking what happens to everyone else left out, I give you the Big XXIV...

Big XXIV East Pod - Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati, West Virginia
Big XXIV Southeast Pod - UCF, Wake Forest, North Carolina St, Georgia Tech, Houston, Tulane
Big XXIV North Pod - Washington St, Oregon St, Utah, Colorado, BYU, Iowa State
Big XXIV Southwest Pod - Arizona, Arizona St, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, San Diego State
 
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