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(CTV News)   Whose grain is this? That's no one's business but the Turks   (ctvnews.ca) divider line
    More: Obvious, Russia, Russian cargo ship, Zhibek Zholy cargo ship, Ukraine's ambassador, Ukrainian foreign ministry official, Turkish customs authorities, Ukrainian national television, Russian forces  
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2022-07-03 6:45:07 PM  
24 votes:

Thoreny: Thoreny: BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.

Turkey was always going to fall in line at the end.

Russia is their traditional enemy.

You ever heard of the Crimean War? Not the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire.

To add, Russia isn't keen on Turkey controlling the city of Istanbul because it's the holy city for Orthodox Christianity. Russia has always to control all the Orthodox Christians.


This.

Turkey and Russia have been fighting over the Black Sea for the better part of the last 500 years. There was no way Erdogan was going to side with Putin. He just wanted to see if he could get a lil quid pro quo from NATO out of the deal.
 
2022-07-03 6:40:03 PM  
23 votes:

BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.


Turkey was always going to fall in line at the end.

Russia is their traditional enemy.

You ever heard of the Crimean War? Not the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire.
 
2022-07-03 6:26:54 PM  
20 votes:

Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?


I believe the last batch ended up in Syria, because Assad is still sucking Putin's cock and will do whatever he's told.
 
2022-07-03 6:36:53 PM  
18 votes:
Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.
 
2022-07-03 6:12:50 PM  
16 votes:
The grain in Spain belongs mainly to Ukraine.
 
2022-07-03 6:25:08 PM  
14 votes:

Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?


Africa, most likely.
 
2022-07-03 6:41:53 PM  
12 votes:

Thoreny: BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.

Turkey was always going to fall in line at the end.

Russia is their traditional enemy.

You ever heard of the Crimean War? Not the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire.


To add, Russia isn't keen on Turkey controlling the city of Istanbul because it's the holy city for Orthodox Christianity. Russia has always to control all the Orthodox Christians.
 
2022-07-03 7:22:26 PM  
12 votes:

LordOfThePings: The grain in Spain belongs mainly to Ukraine.


The grain detained belongs mainly to Ukraine.

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2022-07-03 6:18:14 PM  
8 votes:
Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?
 
2022-07-03 7:21:45 PM  
7 votes:

The Madd Mann: Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?

I believe the last batch ended up in Syria, because Assad is still sucking Putin's cock and will do whatever he's told.


Best time to get deep discounts on commodities from Russian suppliers is right now! Ask India about the crazy oil deals they have been getting from Vlad's eastern European emporium. Grain, oil, lumber, even metals! Come on down to crazy Vlad's for all YOUR needs!
 
2022-07-03 6:53:55 PM  
6 votes:

Ishkur: Thoreny: Thoreny: BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.

Turkey was always going to fall in line at the end.

Russia is their traditional enemy.

You ever heard of the Crimean War? Not the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire.

To add, Russia isn't keen on Turkey controlling the city of Istanbul because it's the holy city for Orthodox Christianity. Russia has always to control all the Orthodox Christians.

This.

Turkey and Russia have been fighting over the Black Sea for the better part of the last 500 years. There was no way Erdogan was going to side with Putin. He just wanted to see if he could get a lil quid pro quo from NATO out of the deal.


This.

Farkers frequently accuse Erdogan of being BFF with Putin. That's profoundly misunderstanding the situation. Erdogan wants to re-establish Turkey as a major global power. To do so, he can't be seen as being squarely in the camp (read: a client state) of either U.S. or Russia. So he's sought to play the two sides off of each other, to his own benefit. A bit like Duterte has.

And it's gone just as well as Duterte's effort has.
 
2022-07-03 7:22:46 PM  
5 votes:

Thoreny: You ever heard of the Crimean War? Not the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire.


You should have phrased that, "Remember that Russo-Turkish War?  No, not that one.  Not that one either.  Or that one."

/1877-78 was the Tenth such war, not counting Crimea
 
2022-07-03 8:23:38 PM  
5 votes:

MillionDollarMo: Ok yes, but have Farkers fed their cats today?


As it so happens in the last hour I fed my cat, I gave her some treats and I ordered several cases of the food that she likes best online.

I may be scum, but I'm scum who is good to his cat.
 
2022-07-03 7:19:09 PM  
4 votes:

Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?


Anyone buying who isn't on board with the sanctions
 
2022-07-03 7:28:08 PM  
4 votes:

UNC_Samurai: Thoreny: You ever heard of the Crimean War? Not the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire.

You should have phrased that, "Remember that Russo-Turkish War?  No, not that one.  Not that one either.  Or that one."

/1877-78 was the Tenth such war, not counting Crimea


12 if you count Crimea and WWI.
 
2022-07-03 6:50:45 PM  
3 votes:
Turkey wants control of the straight. Going against Russia and siding with European interests makes inroads towards undoing a treaty they feel was entered under duress.
 
2022-07-03 7:14:21 PM  
3 votes:

BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.


They saw how weak Russia is, figured out that the S400 is just rehashed soviet crap and want nice NATO toys for themselves while they sell the local stuff to others.
 
2022-07-03 8:26:15 PM  
3 votes:

Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?


India.
 
2022-07-03 6:29:02 PM  
2 votes:
If memory serves, Indonesia is also a big buyer of Ukrainian grains.
 
2022-07-03 8:36:24 PM  
2 votes:

Ishkur: . There was no way Erdogan was going to side with Putin. He just wanted to see if he could get a lil quid pro quo from NATO out of the deal.


Or at least get a few quid
 
2022-07-03 9:03:20 PM  
2 votes:

BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.


Putin and Erdogan may be Romeo and Juliet, but Russia and Turkey are definitely the Montagues and the Capulets.
 
2022-07-03 11:50:37 PM  
2 votes:

GonnaCallYouOut: UNC_Samurai: Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?

Anyone buying who isn't on board with the sanctions

You could have just said terrible people.


And desperate people. An African nation facing possible famine is not in a good position to refuse or even bargain with Russia.
 
2022-07-04 1:51:32 AM  
2 votes:
Good.  Russia should not be allowed to get away with stealing spoils of war.
 
2022-07-04 3:23:21 AM  
2 votes:

BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.


I have a lot of ESL students in Turkey, so I get just a bit more info than the news, and I think the government is starting to realise how farked they are. There is massive brain drain in progress, the lira is worth almost nothing, and there are and estimated 1 million *undocumented* refugees in Istanbul alone - most of whom are not secular. If the government doesn't start standing with the EU over Russia, Turkey will devolve into poverty and extremism. Again. And Erdogan will not survive that, and he knows it.
 
2022-07-04 5:33:49 AM  
2 votes:

alienated: If memory serves, Indonesia is also a big buyer of Ukrainian grains.


Pre-war, it mostly went south and east, so I'd bet that was likely.  The current shortages there have had a carom effect, where they won't export substitutes like palm oil in bulk, which will in turn have knock-on effects for processed food in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Global supply chains can get messy in a hurry...
 
2022-07-03 6:32:19 PM  
1 vote:
better be gluten-free
 
2022-07-03 6:52:07 PM  
1 vote:
Thoreny:To add, Russia isn't keen on Turkey controlling the city of Istanbul because it's the holy city for Orthodox Christianity. Russia has always to control all the Orthodox Christians.

Your reply was about 3 words too long, ftfy!
 
2022-07-03 7:02:49 PM  
1 vote:

BitwiseShift: Turkey has recently done an about face with respect to Russia.  Dropping a block against Sweden and Finland to join NATO, now this.   Maybe they discovered that Russia doesn't really trust anyone else controlling access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus except Russia.  Maybe they heard that Turkey is just Greater Syria and should be ruled from Damascus.


At this point they're probably worried about Putin wanting to re-take Constantinople and be crowned Roman emperor.
 
2022-07-03 7:21:50 PM  
1 vote:

UNC_Samurai: Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?

Anyone buying who isn't on board with the sanctions


You could have just said terrible people.
 
2022-07-04 5:27:16 AM  
1 vote:

alechemist: Ishkur: Where was the grain going? Who is Russia selling Ukrainian grain to?

India.


Which looks to have very bad harvests this year...serious heat issues.
 
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