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2022-07-03 9:30:43 AM  
So, this piggie said out loud what everyone not a piggie already knew about the piggies, then?
 
2022-07-03 9:43:49 AM  
'Obvious' tag in cuffs in the back seat, after "resisting".
 
2022-07-03 9:47:54 AM  
And it's why I seem to always need to suddenly turn into gas stations, parking lots, etc.  Just because I need to use my phone, pick up something that fell over, etc.  And always on private property, never just on the shoulder of the road, or down a side street.
 
2022-07-03 9:59:05 AM  
I've heard that more than once from my cop friends.  This is literally their modus operandi.  Cops are trained to believe every single person is breaking the law somehow no matter who you are in the civilian world.
 
2022-07-03 10:14:00 AM  
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2022-07-03 10:21:09 AM  

Mad Scientist: 'Obvious' tag in cuffs in the back seat, after "resisting".


came for something along the lines of this. leaving satisfied. wipes hands on pants.
 
2022-07-03 10:27:41 AM  
Hell, I've seen that acknowledged by judges in court opinions. It's official that, as long as there's reasonable suspicion of an actual traffic violation, however minor, then the officer's actual intent doesn't matter.
 
2022-07-03 10:32:12 AM  
FTFA - "
"The Federal Way Police Department stresses professionalism in every aspect of our mission and does not tolerate actions by any employee, on or off duty, that would tarnish the reputation of the agency. We value the trust that our community has in the Federal Way Police Department and we strive each day to earn and maintain the public's trust.
We have viewed the social media video posted by Officer Straus and can assure you that it does not represent the core values and practices of our police department. The Federal Way Police have a reputation of being respectful, courteous, and professional and are focused on serving the community at the highest level.".

Aka - our officers are trained in this manner from Academy, duh, this particular officer is being sent back on how to keep his piehole shut about it in front of a camera.  We are including about 75 percent more business speak full to make you think we feel this way about the issue instead of privately agreeing with said loudmouth.
 
2022-07-03 11:28:59 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: FTFA - "
"The Federal Way Police Department stresses professionalism in every aspect of our mission and does not tolerate actions by any employee, on or off duty, that would tarnish the reputation of the agency. We value the trust that our community has in the Federal Way Police Department and we strive each day to earn and maintain the public's trust.
We have viewed the social media video posted by Officer Straus and can assure you that it does not represent the core values and practices of our police department. The Federal Way Police have a reputation of being respectful, courteous, and professional and are focused on serving the community at the highest level.".

Aka - our officers are trained in this manner from Academy, duh, this particular officer is being sent back on how to keep his piehole shut about it in front of a camera.  We are including about 75 percent more business speak full to make you think we feel this way about the issue instead of privately agreeing with said loudmouth.


'It is not within our professional standards to say the quiet part out loud'
 
2022-07-03 11:37:51 AM  
That isn't true, rich white people drive too.
 
2022-07-03 11:57:48 AM  
Not to mention, motorists tend to get nervous when there's a cop suddenly tailgating them for no apparent reason. Of course they'll make a mistake. And if they don't, the cop will just lie.

Then they find a reason to kill the person they pulled over.
 
2022-07-03 12:42:48 PM  
We know that. The issue is how you pick out the person you'll follow as long as it takes.
 
2022-07-03 12:43:40 PM  
A new DeSantis bill in FL says they can pull you over for having your radio up too loud. As if that's provable or enforceable.
 
2022-07-03 12:51:51 PM  
ah, government!


If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.

Cardinal Richelieu 1585-1642

//help! i'm being oppressed!
 
2022-07-03 1:16:04 PM  

Mugato: A new DeSantis bill in FL says they can pull you over for having your radio up too loud. As if that's provable or enforceable.


On one hand, Fark deathsentence.

On the other hand, the asshole behind me at the stoplight with the thump thump thump that drowns out everything deserves to be gibbetted.
 
2022-07-03 2:07:38 PM  

BizarreMan: Mugato: A new DeSantis bill in FL says they can pull you over for having your radio up too loud. As if that's provable or enforceable.

On one hand, Fark deathsentence.

On the other hand, the asshole behind me at the stoplight with the thump thump thump that drowns out everything deserves to be gibbetted.


Fine, your delicate sensibilities are violated for 60 seconds. That doesn't answer how such a law is logistically possible. You're dropping some bass (back in my day), a cop pulls you over, you turn off the sound so it's your word against his. So you're farked. It's also a good way to weasel out of probable cause, like they ever needed it in the first place.
 
2022-07-03 3:05:41 PM  
well, failure to yield can/will get you pulled over. In my anecdotal experience, everyone in front of me should be jailed for life for failure to yield. You can get back into the fast lane, just move over when someone is coming up behind you!!!
 
2022-07-03 3:07:47 PM  
"If us officers stay behind you long enough, we can find a reason to pull you over."

And people still wonder why there are movements to defund or abolish the police. The police in the US are predatory. They're not there to help you. Even the Miranda warning they (used to have to) read to you said anything you say can be used AGAINST you.

The police are not your friends. ACAB.
 
2022-07-03 3:08:15 PM  

BunkyBrewman: I've heard that more than once from my cop friends.  This is literally their modus operandi.  Cops are trained to believe every single person is breaking the law somehow no matter who you are in the civilian world.


And they're right.  The politicians make damned sure of it.
 
2022-07-03 3:08:50 PM  

Mugato: A new DeSantis bill in FL says they can pull you over for having your radio up too loud. As if that's provable or enforceable.


sweaty Ron won't be happy until all the non whites and non straights are either dead or in prison.
 
2022-07-03 3:08:59 PM  
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2022-07-03 3:09:09 PM  

ClavellBCMI: So, this piggie said out loud what everyone not a piggie already knew about the piggies, then?


And this little piggie will get away with it too
 
2022-07-03 3:13:16 PM  

BunkyBrewman: I've heard that more than once from my cop friends.  This is literally their modus operandi.  Cops are trained to believe every single person is breaking the law somehow no matter who you are in the civilian world.


There are so many laws on the books you probably are.
 
2022-07-03 3:13:28 PM  

Mugato: BizarreMan: Mugato: A new DeSantis bill in FL says they can pull you over for having your radio up too loud. As if that's provable or enforceable.

On one hand, Fark deathsentence.

On the other hand, the asshole behind me at the stoplight with the thump thump thump that drowns out everything deserves to be gibbetted.

Fine, your delicate sensibilities are violated for 60 seconds. That doesn't answer how such a law is logistically possible. You're dropping some bass (back in my day), a cop pulls you over, you turn off the sound so it's your word against his. So you're farked. It's also a good way to weasel out of probable cause, like they ever needed it in the first place.


I got pulled over in Pennsylvania once years ago because my music was too loud.  Cop asked me if I had speakers outside of the car.  After a very long check of my license and registration he let me go.

Oh, and the song I was playing when he pulled me over?  Rush's Free Will.  How's that for irony.
 
2022-07-03 3:13:35 PM  
If a cop's behind me, I just pull into the parking lot of a random store. They won't follow, and they won't stick around long enough to have to go through the charade of pretending to shop wherever I just pulled in. Better to waste a minute or two doing that that to get a visit from a cop on a ticket quota finding reasons to pull you over and potentially not only ticket you, but raise your car insurance price for 2 years too. (The actual cost of a ticket can be 1-2k when that insurance penalty is factored in.) And that's if you're WHITE. If you're black, losing cop aggro quickly can literally be a matter of life or death with our broken police system.
 
2022-07-03 3:13:35 PM  
I'm sure glad we're giving the cops more money out of "COVID Relief" funds.
 
2022-07-03 3:13:37 PM  
I'm a cisgender, heterosexual, middle-class white woman, and I'm afraid of the police. If I see a cop car behind me, I pull into the nearest parking lot and wait for them to disappear down the road. They don't need a valid reason to pull you over, they can do it because they don't like red cars or license plates that end in an odd number or the letter Q. Do I think all cops are pieces of shiat? No, but enough of them are that the odds of me interacting with a piece of shiat rather than a non-piece of shiat are very high. I'd rather not risk it. So, when I hear minorities talking about how much they fear the police, I believe them. If my lily-white ass is scared of them, what must someone darker than me feel?
 
2022-07-03 3:15:29 PM  
You can stay behind me all day but it ain't gonna make you a better cop.

/ACAB
 
2022-07-03 3:15:54 PM  
csb  I was driving one day and came up behind a lane hog going way below the speed limit. I moved over 2 lanes because someone was coming up behind me faster than I was going. That car moved over 1 lane to pass the hog. The hog didn't like that one bit and decided they weren't going to be passed like that. The race was on. They were easily going over 100. About 100 yards down the road, the car in the right lane put on its brakes, moved into the left lane behind the winner lane hog and then turned on their flashers.
 
2022-07-03 3:17:57 PM  
I'm sorry, Federal What?
 
2022-07-03 3:18:01 PM  
muphasta:You can get back into the fast lane, just move over when someone is coming up behind you!!!

Dude, it isn't the "fast" lane. It is the passing lane. The speed limit is the same for every lane.
Speediots are just as bad as drivers who misuse the passing lane without speeding.
 
2022-07-03 3:18:03 PM  
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2022-07-03 3:18:25 PM  
In the US, the answer to every problem is "man with a gun," and suggesting better alternatives is Communism.
 
2022-07-03 3:18:40 PM  
As a defense attorney I can say that this rings true. And then they use the fact that you are nervous to search the vehicle, carotid artery etc..
 
2022-07-03 3:19:02 PM  
The truth is, sometimes "Oink oink!" slips out -- from tiem to tiem -- when he's done shaving and right before the splash of aftershave
 
2022-07-03 3:21:51 PM  

iron_city_ap: csb  I was driving one day and came up behind a lane hog going way below the speed limit. I moved over 2 lanes because someone was coming up behind me faster than I was going. That car moved over 1 lane to pass the hog. The hog didn't like that one bit and decided they weren't going to be passed like that. The race was on. They were easily going over 100. About 100 yards down the road, the car in the right lane put on its brakes, moved into the left lane behind the winner lane hog and then turned on their flashers.


Aaaahahahaha

I'd have taken a picture
 
2022-07-03 3:22:02 PM  
I got out of the way of a police cruiser once. I sped up to 95 mph to do it.

/Didn't get pulled over.
//Not sure if it's a CSB
 
2022-07-03 3:23:22 PM  

ClavellBCMI: So, this piggie said out loud what everyone not a piggie already knew about the piggies, then?


He's trying to get fired so he can sue for being unlawfully fired in the hopes of getting a $1.5m payout like his Nazi-loving brethren in neighboring Kent.
 
2022-07-03 3:23:41 PM  
And if the cop gets right on your tail, you're bound to drift over that white line or appear impaired.
 
2022-07-03 3:25:26 PM  
If you're in the left lane and not passing, you deserve to be pulled over.
 
2022-07-03 3:26:53 PM  
if we're driving on the freeway in our police car, get the f*** out of the way," said Straus.

If I'm driving the speed limit, and you come up behind me without any lights on, tail gate me for a bit, then pull me over for made up pretenses because your dick went limp, fark you, you should lose your job.
Why? Abuse of power, not following the law, and lying on your psyche eval; you aren't fit to have power over others.

A lifetime ago I took some AJ courses with the possibility of going into law enforcement and I learned a few things.
1) If an officer is not responding to something with lights activated, he is required to follow all and any traffic laws just like everyone else.
2) At least 1/2 the people taking the same courses were either stupid, sketchy or a combination of both. These would have been my co-workers. That's why I dismissed the idea, I would have wanted to arrest/shoot my coworkers.

Seriously, fark the police. Not all of them are bad, but enough are and are allowed to be, that dealing with them is like Russian roulette. Avoid them at all costs.
 
2022-07-03 3:27:56 PM  
Ready to abolish the police yet?
 
2022-07-03 3:30:15 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I'm a cisgender, heterosexual, middle-class white woman, and I'm afraid of the police. If I see a cop car behind me, I pull into the nearest parking lot and wait for them to disappear down the road. They don't need a valid reason to pull you over, they can do it because they don't like red cars or license plates that end in an odd number or the letter Q. Do I think all cops are pieces of shiat? No, but enough of them are that the odds of me interacting with a piece of shiat rather than a non-piece of shiat are very high. I'd rather not risk it. So, when I hear minorities talking about how much they fear the police, I believe them. If my lily-white ass is scared of them, what must someone darker than me feel?


This isn't anything new. I've been driving for almost 50 years and if a cop wants to pull you over, they'll find a reason to do it.

I also tend to suddenly have business down the nearest side road or parking lot when a cop is behind me.
 
2022-07-03 3:30:35 PM  

austerity101: Ready to abolish the police yet?


Yes or no question?
 
2022-07-03 3:31:31 PM  
Cops can and do come up with reasons after pulling you over for pulling you over.

Who doesn't believe this?   Go watch Smokey & The Bandit again, ffs.
 
2022-07-03 3:33:24 PM  
Most of it is essentially a tax.  Politicians of all types don't like saying "tax" and depend on this to supplement a cities revenue.  If officers followed the spirit of the law versus letter of the law there would be fewer overall tickets but then the mayor calls the chief and says "hey we need to pad the cities revenue to meet the budget and it seems like the officers could do a little more to enforce traffic laws" wink wink nudge nudge.  During the pandemic officers weren't issuing a lot of tickets and as soon as cities were needing the money and vaccines were more available they were back in business.
 
2022-07-03 3:33:25 PM  
They can ALWAYS make up a reason to pull you over.  If they wait a bit, they'll ALWAYS find a reason to pull you over that will stand up in court.  Most of the time they're ignoring what they see because they don't want to spend the whole day on minor traffic offenses that realistically nobody actually cares about.  So yeah, if you're pulled over and it's not a traffic blitz, it seems likely it's some form of profiling and the purported reason is just their court-supported excuse.

Or you're very unlucky;  I've been pulled over and as an adult white male in a non-stolen car without a light kit or loud exhaust, driving in the 'right' neighborhood, I'm 100% sure it's never been profiling.  I wouldn't say that is a general rule.

I worked on an ALPR van install once back when such things were new, and the cops said they actually didn't like it because they were pulling over so many people for expired insurance and plates they didn't have time to do anything flashy.  They'd been hoping to catch stolen cars or vehicles tagged as related to a crime or something.  As far as I know, they more or less retired the van a few months after the last patch I put on it.  I certainly never saw it in the field again.
 
2022-07-03 3:34:06 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Cops can and do come up with reasons after pulling you over for pulling you over.

Who doesn't believe this?   Go watch Smokey & The Bandit again, ffs.


Yeah. Usually in hick towns with led than 100k population.
 
2022-07-03 3:34:14 PM  
F*cking pigs.
 
2022-07-03 3:35:19 PM  

feckingmorons: That isn't true, rich white people drive too.


A troll, in its majestic ambiguity, offends the stalwart as well as the indifferent to sleep late, to beggar belief, and to steal the show.
 
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