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2022-07-01 11:05:37 PM  
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2022-07-01 11:11:48 PM  
Nice try? At best this will test states rignts, at worst it will make no difference.
 
2022-07-01 11:30:52 PM  
It's the thought that counts.
 
2022-07-01 11:36:09 PM  
NRA files suit in the in the next few days, case goes to SCOTUS, majority opinion throws out the law and rules 2A means you can carry backpack nukes, sarin, and anthrax any goddamned where you like so long as you don't hurt fetuses with them.
 
2022-07-01 11:38:39 PM  
You have to provide three years of social media background and 4 character references:

"(iv) a list of former and current social media accounts of the applicant from the past three years to confirm the information regarding the applicants character and conduct"

"names and contact information of no less than four character references who can attest to the applicant's good moral character and that such applicant has not engaged in any acts, or made any statements that suggest they are likely to engage in conduct that would result in harm to themselves or others"


I'm all for gun control, but this is bad legislation.  The SCOTUS already told NYS that they can't call every place a sensitive place, and the process cannot be prohibitively onerous.  This is just going to get a stay slapped on it till it makes its way back through the system to be thrown out.

Link to the bill: https://nyassembly.gov/leg/?bn=A41001&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Votes=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y
 
2022-07-01 11:41:30 PM  

Lighting: You have to provide three years of social media background and 4 character references:

"(iv) a list of former and current social media accounts of the applicant from the past three years to confirm the information regarding the applicants character and conduct"

"names and contact information of no less than four character references who can attest to the applicant's good moral character and that such applicant has not engaged in any acts, or made any statements that suggest they are likely to engage in conduct that would result in harm to themselves or others"

I'm all for gun control, but this is bad legislation.  The SCOTUS already told NYS that they can't call every place a sensitive place, and the process cannot be prohibitively onerous.  This is just going to get a stay slapped on it till it makes its way back through the system to be thrown out.

Link to the bill: https://nyassembly.gov/leg/?bn=A41001&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Votes=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y


No, they said they can't use an ambiguous statement to label something sensitive. This explicitly names the places as sensitive.
 
2022-07-01 11:49:16 PM  
I'm not sure how I feel about this strategy, but it does prove that New York State can pass legislation faster than the supreme court can strike it down...
 
2022-07-02 12:39:01 AM  
From the actual SCOTUS majority opinion:

For example, courts can use analogies to "longstanding" "laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings" to determine whether modern regulations are constitutionally permissible... there is no historical basis for New York to effectively declare the island of Manhattan a "sensitive place" simply because it is crowded and protected generally by the New York City Police Department.

Beer-bro's concurrence:

[N]othing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubton longstanding prohibitions on the possession of fire-
arms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as
schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of
arms. [Footnote 26: We identify these presumptively lawful regulatory measures only as examples; our list
does not purport to be exhaustive.
]


So New York is saying, "Fine. We can't ban 'em over all of Manhattan? Okay, here's our list of 'sensitive places'. It ain't all of Manhattan."
 
2022-07-02 1:55:35 AM  
Honestly we need to reconsider whether we need to be banning guns in blue states; yes, it aucks that school and mass shootings are happening, but we legit might need to arm everyone because literally it might be the only thing stopping a minority party from forcefully taking over the country.
 
2022-07-02 3:47:16 AM  
Next up - Laws allowing for random pat downs for guns which are totally not Stopping and Frisking people. They're just trying to enforce attempts to protect certain people in New York from ever actually living in the city.
 
2022-07-02 3:48:01 AM  
Guess I'll have to get rid of the ol' butt gun if I'm ever in NY.
 
2022-07-02 3:48:54 AM  

koder: Honestly we need to reconsider whether we need to be banning guns in blue states; yes, it aucks that school and mass shootings are happening, but we legit might need to arm everyone because literally it might be the only thing stopping a minority party from forcefully taking over the country.


Unilateral disarmament is not effective, either America acts as one to remove firearms from idiots and psychos or it will still be a bloodbath at the elementary school somewhere, sometime.
This childish obsession for feeding the innocent into the cemetery has to stop eventually.
 
2022-07-02 3:53:12 AM  

maddog2030: Nice try? At best this will test states rignts, at worst it will make no difference.


I love the second amendment.  But I think you will find it is a limitation on CONGRESS.

Even the current insane SCOTUS will have trouble stopping states from enacting restrictions.  Well, with any credibility.  Uncle Thomas will probably rule to make guns mandatory in schools or something, but it's patently constitutional to allow states to pass  gun laws.
 
2022-07-02 3:54:25 AM  
ScRotus then cobbles together and exhibits yet another obnoxious absurd legal theory asserting a US state's absolute power of ownership over every females reproductive organs while asserting no US state has statutory powers over anything else.
 
2022-07-02 4:00:41 AM  

Lighting: You have to provide three years of social media background and 4 character references:

"(iv) a list of former and current social media accounts of the applicant from the past three years to confirm the information regarding the applicants character and conduct"

"names and contact information of no less than four character references who can attest to the applicant's good moral character and that such applicant has not engaged in any acts, or made any statements that suggest they are likely to engage in conduct that would result in harm to themselves or others"

I'm all for gun control, but this is bad legislation.  The SCOTUS already told NYS that they can't call every place a sensitive place, and the process cannot be prohibitively onerous.  This is just going to get a stay slapped on it till it makes its way back through the system to be thrown out.

Link to the bill: https://nyassembly.gov/leg/?bn=A41001&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Votes=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y


So.

You'd have trouble pulling up four not-even-in-real-life people to say you can be trusted with a gun?

Could you present even one living person to vouch for you?
 
2022-07-02 4:05:17 AM  

sorceror: From the actual SCOTUS majority opinion:

For example, courts can use analogies to "longstanding" "laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings" to determine whether modern regulations are constitutionally permissible... there is no historical basis for New York to effectively declare the island of Manhattan a "sensitive place" simply because it is crowded and protected generally by the New York City Police Department.

Beer-bro's concurrence:

[N]othing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubton longstanding prohibitions on the possession of fire-
arms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as
schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of
arms. [Footnote 26: We identify these presumptively lawful regulatory measures only as examples; our list
does not purport to be exhaustive.]

So New York is saying, "Fine. We can't ban 'em over all of Manhattan? Okay, here's our list of 'sensitive places'. It ain't all of Manhattan."


The fiftieth floor of Trump Tower should be open to any and all guns. And bombs, poisons, biological and chemical weapons, nuclear even - so long as its use is constrained to the tower, and even undercooked chicken.
 
2022-07-02 4:05:34 AM  

Lighting: I'm all for gun control, but this is bad legislation.

*sigh*


Everyone we know has a big "but".

Let's talk about YOUR big but, Lighting.
 
2022-07-02 4:08:08 AM  

null: NRA files suit in the in the next few days, case goes to SCOTUS, majority opinion throws out the law and rules 2A means you can carry backpack nukes, sarin, and anthrax any goddamned where you like so long as you don't hurt fetuses with them.


Good.  I hope SCOTUS has to take up the same cases over and over again like some sort of Twilight Zone hell.
 
2022-07-02 4:09:15 AM  

Gpzjock: koder: Honestly we need to reconsider whether we need to be banning guns in blue states; yes, it aucks that school and mass shootings are happening, but we legit might need to arm everyone because literally it might be the only thing stopping a minority party from forcefully taking over the country.

Unilateral disarmament is not effective, either America acts as one to remove firearms from idiots and psychos or it will still be a bloodbath at the elementary school somewhere, sometime.
This childish obsession for feeding the innocent into the cemetery has to stop eventually.


The hope is that some gun nut in a red state doesn't have the patience to drive to a blue state to gun down a bunch of kids in a school. Or, to live in that blue state long enough to not evince that he's some red-stater who drove to a blue state to gun down a bunch of kids in a school.

Blue-staters fully expect that there will be some school shooting eventually. We just expect them to happen in the redder parts of the state.
 
2022-07-02 4:10:00 AM  

null: NRA files suit in the in the next few days, case goes to SCOTUS, majority opinion throws out the law and rules 2A means you can carry backpack nukes, sarin, and anthrax any goddamned where you like so long as you don't hurt fetuses with them.


Change one comma, increase the penalties, and pass a newer law.

Ie, treat the system with exactly the same respect as the pro-lifers do.
 
2022-07-02 4:12:09 AM  

Gpzjock: This childish obsession for feeding the innocent into the cemetery has to stop eventually.


Tell it to the Red states; they packed SCOTUS.  Meanwhile, all we can do is try to limit school shootings to places that voted for them.
 
2022-07-02 4:19:38 AM  

Lighting: The SCOTUS already told NYS that they can't call every place a sensitive place, and the process cannot be prohibitively onerous.  This is just going to get a stay slapped on it till it makes its way back through the system to be thrown out.


So in your opinion there may be a brief downturn in random civilian massacres until this matter is more decisively addressed at the appellate level?

Failing that, the massacres must continue until the financial concerns of manufacturers of handheld lightweight semiautomatic high-capacity-box-fed semi-automatic instruments of mass murder with no other defensible purpose have been adequately addressed?

What a damn shame if a mouth-breathing sociopathic small-arms manufacturer were to go broke.
 
2022-07-02 4:21:21 AM  

maddog2030: Nice try? At best this will test states rignts, at worst it will make no difference.


Well let's try at least! Fark
 
2022-07-02 4:24:00 AM  

Lighting: The SCOTUS already told NYS


SCOTUS is packed with those willing to commit perjury and then publicly display their profound ignorance of history, and their own purported religion, for political ends.

Apparently, we can make up any batsh*t thing we want to justify legislation, or the lack of it.

Oh, and we can also cite foreign sources of law in justification, which conservatives USED to say was un-American.
 
2022-07-02 4:27:23 AM  
The States will need border control. Starting with state license plates.
 
2022-07-02 4:27:33 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Even the current insane SCOTUS will have trouble stopping states from enacting restrictions.  Well, with any credibility.


Saying the Environmental Protection Agency has no authority to (sachecks notes) protect the environment pretty much says it all about the current state of SCOTUS credibility.

Be a shame if someone accidentally dumped toxic waste into the majority's residential drinking water...there's no right to a clean environment in the Constitution, after all...
 
2022-07-02 4:28:45 AM  

BuckTurgidson: Lighting: The SCOTUS already told NYS that they can't call every place a sensitive place, and the process cannot be prohibitively onerous.  This is just going to get a stay slapped on it till it makes its way back through the system to be thrown out.

So in your opinion there may be a brief downturn in random civilian massacres until this matter is more decisively addressed at the appellate level?

Failing that, the massacres must continue until the financial concerns of manufacturers of handheld lightweight semiautomatic high-capacity-box-fed semi-automatic instruments of mass murder with no other defensible purpose have been adequately addressed?

What a damn shame if a mouth-breathing sociopathic small-arms manufacturer were to go broke.


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We universally decided these were a stupid idea.

Only gravity with no accelerants was in play.
 
2022-07-02 4:31:13 AM  
SCOTUS bulls*** shall not stand.
 
2022-07-02 4:33:00 AM  
At this point, it might behoove the states to push every farking legal button on the typewriter and
throw it all at these idiots to see just how far down the hippty hypocrisy trail they'll go.. Proving their
absurdity through action is one way to get attention to the problem at hand..Making the court
"legislate" from the bench and at the same time they go on and on about states rights, taking
away their right by striking down the legislation they make..Making rules by negative process is
still making rules...Which is something that should be obvious to them, but apparently being spiteful
and self important is much more important..


I'll also throw out there that during JFK's run for office..One thing that, especially Southerners, were
FREAKING THE FARK OUT about was the fact he was Catholic, and he might push their agenda..
Now, we have a Supreme Court packing with hard core Right Wing Catholics and other religious nuts,
and these same demographic is cheering them on...I guess the KKK and Neo-NAZI's have decided that
Catholics (PAPISTS!!! OMGZ) are acceptable...
 
2022-07-02 4:34:47 AM  

PunGent: leeksfromchichis: Even the current insane SCOTUS will have trouble stopping states from enacting restrictions.  Well, with any credibility.

Saying the Environmental Protection Agency has no authority to (sachecks notes) protect the environment pretty much says it all about the current state of SCOTUS credibility.

Be a shame if someone accidentally dumped toxic waste into the majority's residential drinking water...there's no right to a clean environment in the Constitution, after all...


Yes. States rights. "It was clean until it got your borders. Not our problem." Have fun with irrigating your palm trees and golf courses in a desert city that should never have been built.

/fark you
 
2022-07-02 4:41:08 AM  

PunGent: Gpzjock: This childish obsession for feeding the innocent into the cemetery has to stop eventually.

Tell it to the Red states; they packed SCOTUS.  Meanwhile, all we can do is try to limit school shootings to places that voted for them.


That is exactly my point, you can't draw a line and say no psychos with guns here please while letting them run loose on the other side of the line.
Usandthemism leads to schism and mass murder. Until both sides are willing to stop mass murderers in their midst, same as it ever was and your expectations of child death are justified. Letting it happen isn't though.
 
2022-07-02 4:44:04 AM  

RasIanI: SCOTUS bulls*** shall not stand.


Have you got the 06 to 30 correction available ? Doesn't seem like there's any other solution these days to fix the court since making the court's size tied to the US population seems like a non starter.
 
2022-07-02 4:45:02 AM  

RasIanI: SCOTUS bulls*** shall not stand.


Charge the judges that uphold the right to arm bears with reckless endangerment of children.
 
2022-07-02 5:10:54 AM  

null: NRA files suit in the in the next few days, case goes to SCOTUS, majority opinion throws out the law and rules 2A means you can carry backpack nukes, sarin, and anthrax any goddamned where you like so long as you don't hurt fetuses with them.


The funny thing is that in your scenario women are basically completely immune since only an autopsy could tell if she was with what the GQP considers a "child".
 
2022-07-02 5:11:53 AM  
Red states can have their ChristoFascist MAGA Handmaids society, and the blue ones can have their overly oppressive Socialist hell holes than band guns and give free abortions, plus add a bit of Medicare for all.

Lets see whose society is more productive and happy?
 
2022-07-02 5:13:10 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: At this point, it might behoove the states to push every farking legal button on the typewriter and
throw it all at these idiots to see just how far down the hippty hypocrisy trail they'll go.. Proving their
absurdity through action is one way to get attention to the problem at hand..Making the court
"legislate" from the bench and at the same time they go on and on about states rights, taking
away their right by striking down the legislation they make..Making rules by negative process is
still making rules...Which is something that should be obvious to them, but apparently being spiteful
and self important is much more important..


I'll also throw out there that during JFK's run for office..One thing that, especially Southerners, were
FREAKING THE FARK OUT about was the fact he was Catholic, and he might push their agenda..
Now, we have a Supreme Court packing with hard core Right Wing Catholics and other religious nuts,
and these same demographic is cheering them on...I guess the KKK and Neo-NAZI's have decided that
Catholics (PAPISTS!!! OMGZ) are acceptable...


Biden is Catholic.
 
2022-07-02 5:17:37 AM  
And yet a black fascist still runs NYC
 
2022-07-02 5:18:59 AM  
Leading democrats are theocrats in disguise
 
2022-07-02 5:20:50 AM  
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2022-07-02 5:21:10 AM  

Spawn_of_Cthulhu: Mr. Shabooboo: At this point, it might behoove the states to push every farking legal button on the typewriter and
throw it all at these idiots to see just how far down the hippty hypocrisy trail they'll go.. Proving their
absurdity through action is one way to get attention to the problem at hand..Making the court
"legislate" from the bench and at the same time they go on and on about states rights, taking
away their right by striking down the legislation they make..Making rules by negative process is
still making rules...Which is something that should be obvious to them, but apparently being spiteful
and self important is much more important..


I'll also throw out there that during JFK's run for office..One thing that, especially Southerners, were
FREAKING THE FARK OUT about was the fact he was Catholic, and he might push their agenda..
Now, we have a Supreme Court packing with hard core Right Wing Catholics and other religious nuts,
and these same demographic is cheering them on...I guess the KKK and Neo-NAZI's have decided that
Catholics (PAPISTS!!! OMGZ) are acceptable...

Biden is Catholic.


And a proud Irishman

Joe Biden "I'm Irish"
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2022-07-02 5:26:55 AM  
Anarchy still means something
 
2022-07-02 5:51:01 AM  

null: NRA files suit in the in the next few days, case goes to SCOTUS, majority opinion throws out the law and rules 2A means you can carry backpack nukes, sarin, and anthrax any goddamned where you like so long as you don't hurt fetuses with them.


Will also be grounded in the centuries old legal precedents of "Suck it, libs"
 
2022-07-02 5:52:24 AM  
BOOYAH!!!

Well done, NY!

BRAVO!!!
 
2022-07-02 5:55:22 AM  
Hey, great.  Throw shiat at the wall and see what sticks.  Fark the SCOTUS.
 
2022-07-02 5:55:27 AM  

TorpedoOrca: maddog2030: Nice try? At best this will test states rignts, at worst it will make no difference.

Well let's try at least! Fark


Yeah, now that the war has started i kinda wouldnt mind some fighting back
 
2022-07-02 5:57:08 AM  

Your Hind Brain: The States will need border control. Starting with state license plates.


We are now 2 countries:

- The United States
- The Qnited States
 
2022-07-02 5:57:52 AM  

TiSpork: BOOYAH!!!

Well done, NY!

BRAVO!!!


Yep.

All that has to happen is for any state to say "The judges have made their decision, now let them enforce it."

F*ck them all the way back to the Mason-Dixon line.

If they want war, let's make them sick of war.
 
2022-07-02 6:00:14 AM  

null: NRA files suit in the in the next few days, case goes to SCOTUS, majority opinion throws out the law and rules 2A means you can carry backpack nukes, sarin, and anthrax any goddamned where you like so long as you don't hurt fetuses with them.


EXCEPT for SCOTUS, NRA conventions, and RNC conventions
 
2022-07-02 6:10:58 AM  
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2022-07-02 6:11:09 AM  

Lighting: You have to provide three years of social media background and 4 character references:

"(iv) a list of former and current social media accounts of the applicant from the past three years to confirm the information regarding the applicants character and conduct"

"names and contact information of no less than four character references who can attest to the applicant's good moral character and that such applicant has not engaged in any acts, or made any statements that suggest they are likely to engage in conduct that would result in harm to themselves or others"

I'm all for gun control, but this is bad legislation.  The SCOTUS already told NYS that they can't call every place a sensitive place, and the process cannot be prohibitively onerous.  This is just going to get a stay slapped on it till it makes its way back through the system to be thrown out.

Link to the bill: https://nyassembly.gov/leg/?bn=A41001&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Votes=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y


It's time to play hardball RUTHLESSLY.

Ignore the stay. If the illegitimate Supreme Court wants to enforce the stay, let them come to New York to try.
 
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